Let me know what you think of videos like this. I have some ideas for videos about fake tanks or I could cover more video game tanks in the future and talk about what history, if any, they have. Or I could do a separate series on fake tanks entirely.

@macdam11

2 жыл бұрын

call it "Cursed by WG" 😂

@aloxniga8774

2 жыл бұрын

i love these videos

@yi_hou3092

2 жыл бұрын

Was interested in learning about the Soviet Turreted Tank Destroyers especially the SU-100P and SU-152 Taran (Obj 120)

@turgeon1235

2 жыл бұрын

#Shorts ? Doesn’t fit right

@mrstrul3.

2 жыл бұрын

Do a video on the T-55 Hellcat that was put together during the Bosnian war seems like an interesting topic after watching this video. And maybe Croatian technicals/improvised AFVs during the begining years of the Croatian War of Independence.

The T-34 Sherman is even weirder in context because the crew loadout for the tank indicates it uses the early-war turret with the commander doubling as the gunner, while the declared stats for the gun indicate it is an 85mm gun.

@tigerbesteverything

2 жыл бұрын

it's simple: the turret ring of the sherman is way to wide for the late t34/76 turret. And the added cupola makes no sense either. A version with the 85 turret would have been better.

@magww1

2 жыл бұрын

@@tigerbesteverything someone took the effort to 3D design this but didn’t take the 5 seconds to look up a picture of the 85 turret? This is why I don’t fuck with wot.

@GrasshopperKelly

2 жыл бұрын

@@tigerbesteverything That hasn't stopped turrets being mounted on wider rings before. Usually either an adaptor is installed, or the hull ring is removed entirely and a smaller matching one welded in its place. Like when the French went through a phase, where they mounted the FL10 turret to everything in sight... The problems mating a turret to a hull come when you want a *wider* turret on a hull. Because turrets (tend to) come with a matching diameter basket. So yes, the original T-34 turret could be quite happily dropped in a sherman. To be honest though, the Russians hated the turret, and the crews hatten the turret... Especially after they got 85mm three man turrets. So unless some field recovery division was looking for a solution to putting a sherman hull with a blown off turret, and for some special stars alighted reason, no access to a spare turret. The better option would have been just mounting the 85mm in a modified sherman turret.

@Catequil

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrasshopperKelly You literally say explain why the original T-34 turret cannot be mounted on the Sherman with larger turret ring, them claim it can be mounted after all?

@vuxluongw

2 жыл бұрын

@@magww1 game is running out of ideas lmao. at this point swapping modules is all they can come up with for low tier tanks.

Wargaming employee: time add more content, what shall we include boss? Wargaming manager: just swap the turrets around on different hulls and call it a day

@Axel23410

2 жыл бұрын

funnily enough, they do the exact same thing in world of warships.

@therealhecatonchires

2 жыл бұрын

borrasque moment

@djordjeradomirovic3720

2 жыл бұрын

is it a posible... the sturm god.. pls bles me

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, target practice! *zooms past in a Halifax, as you hear a lot of whistling noises getting louder and look up to see bombs falling* Present for the Slüg!

Problem is WG is really starting to stretch what they're deciding to include in the game. Soon we're gonna see stuff like: This tank never existed, but we found a diary where one Soviet soldier wrote "I wish we had a T-34 with 200mm of armor all around and a 152mm gun and that could go 70km/h" and drew a very crude version of it. So we made his wish real.

@creativityfails1

2 жыл бұрын

You've basically described the Chinese tanks which have been in the game for years.

@abelq8008

2 жыл бұрын

I liked the crazy tanks in wot but not really anything else. I wish war thunder would include some more paper tanks for funzies.

@kebabseverim3364

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is that WG is the most greedy company

@MauDaFaca

2 жыл бұрын

You mean... lets take out WTF2000 because its a fantasy tank ... but quimera isn´t? or grille 15?

@___von___7377

2 жыл бұрын

@@kebabseverim3364 THE most greedy company? Are you forgetting that most Western companies are greedier?

Hey Cone will you be doing a video on Soviet Turreted Tank Destroyers, I've been really interested in the Story of the SU-100P and SU-152 Taran (Obj 120)

@broderzzcompany

2 жыл бұрын

Begone, anime pfp

@tommypeds

2 жыл бұрын

@@broderzzcompany *Angry Iron noises*

@jidk6565

2 жыл бұрын

Just be sure to remember Tank destroyers are not tank destroyers under Soviet doctrine, they are just tanks and are treated as such

@broderzzcompany

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommypeds I just hate anime lmao, no offence to anyone

@TR33ZY_CRTM

2 жыл бұрын

@@broderzzcompany But why do you hate Anime? Is it because it's better than modern western media?

Personally I have no problems with the tanks that existed being added, I don't mind blueprint tanks either, it's when they create stuff out of thin air (looking at things like the annihilator, although that's in blitz) and slap it in the game for no reason that annoys me, I stopped playing WoT about a year ago and switched to WT, it's just a more enjoyable form of suffering in my opinion, anyway looking forward to your next video cone.

@hixc2069

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Simon_Nonymous

2 жыл бұрын

I left WoT over three years ago... they invent tanks, and reinvent stats for real life tanks, then when they are too good or not good enough the so called 'balancing' takes place. I popped back to WoT this year to play with a mate who was grinding, and what an awful game it is now.

@yosefvonhansom2921

2 жыл бұрын

WT at least tries its best in having only existing designs, prototype or production vehicles Though the addition of the M47 in the Japanese tech tree and classifying self propelled arties as "tank destroyers" is a weird thing for Gaijin to do

@adwitiyoroy1797

2 жыл бұрын

@@yosefvonhansom2921 the addition of M47 for the Japanese is probably to even the field. They dont really have a proper lineup, so I guess they added it to balance things out. As for the SPHs being labeled as tank destroyers, they'll maybe add more SPH and when they have enough they'll make a new class? I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that's how it will be

@Slay1337pl

2 жыл бұрын

How's the grinding going? just 2 more years for a tier 6 lineup for one country?

The 'historical description' WG have provided for the Matilda LVT is almost entirely fabricated (the only correct part regards the number of Matildas Australia received). Post War a large number of Matilda tanks were sold off for use as farm tractors, with the turrets being removed as they served no purpose in this role. The Matildas with the staghound and LVT turrets are ex-tractor tanks that have been salvaged from various rural properties and scrap yards and have had a new turret put on for display purposes but with no internal fittings (irrc the one in the green/yellow camo was used on a paintball field).

@user-jq5bs8ij1u

2 жыл бұрын

If that's the case we will soon be seing a m4 sherman with a m46 turret because that thing exists in korea as a wreck

@jaysherman2615

2 жыл бұрын

I just love the idea of a farm tractor with 75mm of armor.

@Ravenheartless322

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaysherman2615 its incase Emu started another war in Australia

@dawsonreum8096

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaysherman2615 Don't know why someone would want it though, imagine all the extra fuel it would need.

@AtholAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

@@dawsonreum8096 Because of availability and cost postwar. For an Aussie farmer, getting a tractor imported would've been incredibly expensive but the Gov was selling off assets, like dis-armed tanks, at essentially fire sale prices.

Fun info about the staghound Matilda tank pictured with the Australian green and yellow paint job. This Matilda has a sister and is a part of the Queensland war museum in Australia. Both tanks are used as props on a paintball field as well as a partly destroyed Apache attack helicopter. I personally have played on the field that has these tanks and I must say it is quite the sight

@normak7041

2 жыл бұрын

Where is the paintball field?

@szymonchlebicki4606

2 жыл бұрын

@@normak7041 in australia i presume

Even if they're fake, props to WarGambling for making them look cool.

@ready4play934

2 жыл бұрын

WarGambling?

@owo1744

2 жыл бұрын

@@ready4play934 yes

@bjboss1119

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the true name of wargaming,

@pinngg6907

2 жыл бұрын

@@ready4play934 Gayjin and Wargambling Problem?

@juanrodrigo3646

2 жыл бұрын

I smell a WG supporter

These tanks have to be a joke. No way wargaming is serious about this. Wargaming will probably put a FT-17 turret on a maus hull next year and put it as a premium to tier V

@KeithZim

2 жыл бұрын

The game is already full of "fake" tanks. Some WW2 mechanic gets drunk and sketch's something stupid on a napkin that some how survives and WG adds it to the game. They are literally playing Mr Potato Head with tank parts over their. LOLOLOL

@moisesezequielgutierrez

2 жыл бұрын

Unfinished irl prototypes, and irl Tank blueprint concepts, you name it.

@vojnanaoruzanja9901

2 жыл бұрын

@@moisesezequielgutierrez yes, many of them are on blueprint or unfinished prototype

@maarts665

2 жыл бұрын

Maus turret on ft-17

@Miodoe3

2 жыл бұрын

I see you never saw the Aufklarens Panther Panzer. Panther hull, with a tiny turret as the T7 light tank

I wish there was playing mode for crazy tank modifications where you could build a tank from all the modules that are on its tier only limited by the weight limit that your chosen suspension type and strenght lets you. So you could even make a lets say a sherman hull with german tracks and suspension system and a turret from kv 1 or so

@lehonkerque7398

2 жыл бұрын

Ye, i'll wait for that gamemode in 2092

@yosefvonhansom2921

2 жыл бұрын

I've read an article in WoT's website with a similar premise back in like . . . 2014 though

@Kijby

2 жыл бұрын

WoT 2077

@oakwhelie

2 жыл бұрын

You can try playing sprocket, you can build your own tank from scratch

@trollingmodeactivated2500

2 жыл бұрын

@@oakwhelie i have but its no anywhere near the gameplay quality of wot just simple tank crafting so far

Any combination of hull and turret is possible, but surely turret ring diameter is the deciding factor as to whether it could handle the recoil of the gun in real life

@b-17gflyingfortress6

2 жыл бұрын

Looks at Panther 2 with 88mm L/100

@wideyxyz2271

2 жыл бұрын

And weight!

@Azachor

2 жыл бұрын

The turret ring diameter us the deciding factor if the turret could fit. They had to match perfectly because otherwise you'd have a turret that is either not secured in place or too wide to fit.

@cristsan4171

2 жыл бұрын

Time to place a Centurion Conquerer or any British tank turret on a gunboat and calls it ship gun car like the Primitiveasia (the modern lesser intelligent neighbour of Malaysia) who ordered the prototype from England.

@Saberjet1950

Жыл бұрын

@@Azachor you can always modify the ring to be smaller, but not really bigger.

If Wargaming would stop advertising WoT as historically accurate, I'd be more than happy to support them. The lengths they go to spread misinformation, however, is hair-pullingly frustrating.

@TolerablyInterested

2 жыл бұрын

No joke, the girls und panzer crew and tank is more accurate than half the stuff in wot, at least its inspired by a real tank.

@br-sb6vu

2 жыл бұрын

Could say the same for WT, when tf are certain tanks going to get accurate armour thickness, shells, pen

@damnitschnell8908

2 жыл бұрын

WoT referring the historically accurate to the historically accurate tanks like Toger and Shermanus

@thelordofcringe

2 жыл бұрын

@@TolerablyInterested I only play wot for that tank tbh

@TolerablyInterested

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelordofcringe same here. The vehicle is meh, but I'm a total otaku when it comes to gup so I threw my card at weegee so hard it 750 damage rolled my pc.

Chose your fighter: WORLD OF TANKS: unrealistic suffering WAR THUNDER: realistic suffering

@Paciat

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, War thunder realistic. :D :D :D

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paciat War Thunder is "realistic" in that it doesn't have hit points and doesn't use blueprint-only vehicles. That's the extent of the "realism".

There are so many paper panzer sun the game that these combinations aren’t far from the lengths that Wargaming will go to. For example, there was only a wooden mock-up of the T71 lt in the US tech tree. The T92 lt is a premium vehicle that had 2 actual working prototypes, one still exists at Aberdeen. Since the developers of the T 71 didn’t have a concrete design they had the chance to use it in the tech tree with 2 designs with the speculations of the designers. The T92 went straight to a single design to fulfill the requirements requested. The T92 was set for production until it was discovered that the Soviets had an amphibious capable light vehicle and the T92 wasn’t, as it wasn’t in the requirements.

@Arbiter099

2 жыл бұрын

So you're saying there's a chance of the Tsar tank?

@thehumanoddity

2 жыл бұрын

@KvAT It wasn't even that, the O-I Experimental, O-Ho, and O-Ni just come from fake designs the engineers working on the project made up when questioned about the O-I by the US military.

@liviuganea4108

2 жыл бұрын

T92 is in WT. It's pretty good. Just has a high repair cost.

It’s funny that they didn’t use the Sherman with 122mm gun. Yeah that 122mm D54 gun… I mean the tank does exist and it might make the game even more interesting

@sethmullins8346

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't it also have a t-34 engine and transmission

@sethmullins8346

2 жыл бұрын

The SO-122, right?

@vitiate5093

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethmullins8346 yes

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad they didn't add it as a premium. Because I'd love to see a Yugoslav tech tree added, and the SO-122 Sherman would make for a nice tank destroyer in that tree. Also, the Tier 10 TD for Yugoslavia could be a T-54 hull with a casemate-mounted SO-203 gun. Which would bet he largest caliber non-arty in the game, eclipsing even the FV4005's 183mm. (Technically the paper project in question was meant to be an SPG. But I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have enough elevation to function as an arty in World of Tanks. So repurposing it as a TD would make more sense.)

@vitiate5093

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedXlV I don’t play world of tanks nor do I care to.

5:30 "As long as it's made clear that these are not real tanks" Meanwhile, every single Wargaming advertisement for World of Anything: "With 100% historically accurate vehicles" in every single script handed to their promoters.

@vanquilknight6270

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they said "hundreds of historical vehicles", not 100%.

@violet9214

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanquilknight6270 Correct

@TheoHawk316

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, not to justify it, but literally every game in the genre (minus WoT Blitz) does that. WT and WoT are just the biggest, and most notorious.

@GrumpyIan

2 жыл бұрын

*Sprocket has entered the chat.*

If I recall right, tank group in VK found all except T-34/M4 hybrid within an hour. Problem is the massive sh//tstorm that followed with people arguing if Matilda/M8/M113(cupola) abomination made by some bored rich australian counted as "historical".

@teslashark

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen their conversation, but I imagine the Matilda M8/113's turret can't even rotate

@knobgobler2639

2 жыл бұрын

I cant help but wonder if the wargaming development team and historians have access to information and documents that the average or even seasoned keyboard warriors don't.

This vid is like: Lets talk about fake allied tanks, that never existed vs Lets talk about the crazy german inventions, that really existed :D Honestly I like it to see what tanks could have been, as a fan of the superheavies i love the japanese ones and the E100. Also the E - Type tanks of germany, to see what could have been the standards. The double barrel russian tanks, in fine with that.

6 minutes is the shortest of shorts

@vHades_

2 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say lol

World of Tanks console did something similar to this called "Mercenaries", it failed miserably Just the most ugly Abominations you've ever seen, T54 with hellcat turret, Is2 with t29 turret etc

@aregulargenericname8794

2 жыл бұрын

Wait a game actually had the t54 with m18 turret tank in it?

@lsq7833

2 жыл бұрын

t54 with hellcat turret actually happened though.

@yosefvonhansom2921

2 жыл бұрын

@@lsq7833 won't be surprised if the T-54/Hellcat hybrid came from Yugoslavia

@andreimorar5249

2 жыл бұрын

@@yosefvonhansom2921 it actually did, funny enough. And from the 90s if I am not wrong

@rubberwoody

2 жыл бұрын

The mercenaries are very popular in the Xbox version of WOT

Wg: Oh no we are running out of premium tanks to sell, what should we do? Wg Employee: Take a tank’s hull and add another tank’s turret

Next time wargaming will make a Jackpot that mixes random tank parts and creates aberrations

Was hoping if Wargaming gonna add more Sherman tank variant. Especially the French one.

@ActiveChildGunner87

2 жыл бұрын

This one kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmZlmrx-p8Wwc6g.html

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

India and Israel both had Shermans up-gunned with French CN 75-50 guns. One of those Israeli Shermans also had the hull cut down to be 0.3 meters shorter to give it a lower target profile. At least one Indian Sherman was given a Soviet D-56T gun off a PT-76. Israel and Argentina also used Shermans with the French CN 105-57, though those would be functionally identical to the M4A1 Revalorisé. Yugoslavia equipped a single Sherman with a M1931/37 field gun (which was the basis of the guns mounted on the IS-2 and ISU-122) and the engine of a T-34-85. And Chile operated ex-Israeli Shermans equipped with an autoloading 60mm high-velocity gun. All of those physically existed.

@germmanator

2 жыл бұрын

quite a few 'french' sherman variants already in the game (2 at the moment).

I like the look of the Matilda its interestings. Almost like they tried to make it a TD

Hey cone, As a kansas native, Thank you for introducing me to a new museum in my state! I plan to checking out the House of Tank as soon as possible! I appreciate the amount of information you put into your videos

The original login music ;-; The feelssssss

The PZ.KPFW.M15 body is clearly of Italian design having the same hull as the famous 13/40 medium. Slap on a Pz38 turret and you're good to go. (Interesting to see it's also the realist tank offered in the bunch)

@morganaldag3478

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I recognized that to. Also the R35 hybrid's turret looks to heavy for it to move.

@KermitTheGamer21

2 жыл бұрын

It uses the hull of the Italian M15/42, and was built by Germany for the puppet state they set up in Croatia (Ustashe).

1:25 Wouldn't the process of creating a production program have been one of the hindrances to the proposed idea?

@shadowraven3253

2 жыл бұрын

How do you mean that? Like making a production line at all like the british did with the m4 to Firefly or the soviets not having the line free for it? Just curious.

@derrickstorm6976

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowraven3253 yea but the q7 pounder was a definite improvement over the 75mm, the 75mm and 76mm on the T-34 were pretty equal.

@shadowraven3253

2 жыл бұрын

@@derrickstorm6976 That wasn't my question but still the T-34 turret would have been better for the soviets due to them producing the 76mm ammo I would say.

Having a soft spot for the 35R (when I was playing WoT), the final tank goes into the 'cutely menacing' category. (And probably takes seal-clubbing to a whole new level...)

@KermitTheGamer21

2 жыл бұрын

Strong armor for a Tier 2 and the 45mm gun is probably the best Tier 2 gun in the game. It will be an absolute menace for sure if it is released.

I remember looking through a folio style book about the M4 series in a university library. In the chapter on proposed variants there was a drawing of a set of offset gears at the engine, the drive shaft running along the floor of the hull, then a second set of offset gears at the transmission. The top of the hull lost its hump and was flush with the top of the engine deck, for an overall lower height. In the text it mentioned a proposal to fit the M26 turret to the M4 because their turret rings were the same. I thought it would have been interesting to combine both of those modifications.

The thing about this is that it feels like WG are doing something like the Mercenary tanks from console. They had an AT 2 with the German 10,5 howitzer.

Personally I'm not going to complain about these 4 coming in. The first two strike as being viable for the war since it's just a turret swap rather than much else, the sort of part temporary modification that could be done by less well supplies group or similar, where they don't have the ability to get the chassis/turrets working on two of their tanks so they just swap bits over. As for the other two, they're documented vehicles even if they're sort of prototypes, so not going to raise complaints there. For the most part, Wargaming has done -far- worse for simply creating tanks that never existed, with these there's at least some level of credibility to them, or just a way of going "Ok yeah, I can see that could've happened"

The Tier 4 Matilda is my favourite tank from seal clubbing. With the reload speed of 1.7 second, is a blast.

2:40 and 2:45 These two matildas you had on screen looked like they took the turret of either the Ram II or the turret from the M3 Lee, or even the M7 Light/Medium tank.

You should call the Video "Wargaming. Real, Paper or Fake tank."

I feel like the tanks should be in the Blitz version not the PC version because Blitz has quite a few fantasy tanks

@doritolegend9664

2 жыл бұрын

If it's made up by wargaming it's gonna be op Smasher, Annihilator, maybe Dracula

@sunsys6330

2 жыл бұрын

true but barely anyone play it

@katyusha1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@sunsys6330 Blitz has a lot of players. Maybe even more than the original one.

@sunsys6330

2 жыл бұрын

@@katyusha1283 no i mean the lower tier tanks

Love the fact that you put the old login screen music in the background

I like the juxtaposition comparison contrast real-world versus fantasy keep up the good work I like to see more this kind of things in more lines of work around the world across-the-board

"no need to waste a T34 turret on a Sherman" Did you mean "no need to waste a Sherman on a T34 turret?"

@LeonserGT

2 жыл бұрын

No.

@Paciat

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt that was a stupid argument. Even putting a modern turret on a concrete bunker hull (Pantherturm) wasnt considered a waste. Soviets were not producing new types of ammunition (APCR shells) for lend-lease tanks.

WoT is really turning into a joke.

@derrickstorm6976

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@BHuang92

2 жыл бұрын

Always has

@MyHentaiGirl

2 жыл бұрын

I switched to Armoured Warfare 2 years ago, it is more fun with actually working PvE and an OK PvP

I feel like one of the coolest benefits of WoT/WT is seeing prototype/what if tanks in action

The Matilda with Staghound turret belonged to a collector in Mareeba, Queensland. It was in the all yellow paint as of 2001. In Australia after the war many obsolete tanks were sold off, many were bought by farmers who wanted to use them as tractors. Invariably they would get rid of the turret. Usually a lot of the upper hulls would be chopped off, and locally made dozer blades or tree pushers attached. This particular Matilda somehow escaped the farmer's oxy torch, but the turret was long gone. The Staghound turret was what was available.

I thought all were fake but I'm impressed. Now I would like to watch one of these videos but with the "Yoh" heavy tanks (from USA) because they are really cursed lol

@ConeOfArc

2 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to cover the Yoh tanks but I need to find more information first

@misterpepe118

2 жыл бұрын

@@ConeOfArc that's nice, what about the "E" series on German tanks? E 25, E 50, E 100, etc.

@Paciat

2 жыл бұрын

@@misterpepe118 Lol, "E" series. Are you serious? Zero is not a series. Every single tank in this video is more real than all of those nazi fantasy tanks.

With Sherman T-34 combo. I can see how this could be done. Imagine Eastern front, some place, winter 1942. You are sieged/encircled and you have to defend. You have Sherman with broken turret and destroyed T-34. All you need to do is make turret ring adjuster to fit small T-34 turret on Sherman hull. Could have been both Leningrad/Stalingrad and many other places.

@Axquirix

2 жыл бұрын

The phrase "turret ring adjuster" opens a whole can of worms, but also cutting the roof off of the T-34 hull and welding it over the Sherman's turret ring would be the easiest and most likely method to perform on a battlefield. Turret would probably end up off-centre and maybe a bit wonky but you've got a whole tank now.

@alucardonus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Axquirix T-34 turret is light. Its much lighter than sherman one. So making like sherman sized turret bottom adjusted with inner ring to fit T-34 turret wont be much of a problem.

@CplBurdenR

2 жыл бұрын

"Could have" and "Did" are two very different things

I would spend real money for a memed out m3 t34-85 with the extra machine-gun cupula on top

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

An M3 Lee turret ring is 1384mm, while a T-34-85's is 1600mm. So I doubt that'd be possible. The original T-34 on the other hand has a 1425mm turret ring, so there might (barely) be room for that conversion.

I think this type of videos will make for fine content. A good one as usual

Matilda LVT: *exists* Royal Navy: Welcome to the submarine force.

Thats why I play wt, so I can suffer realistically 😂😂😭

@RFi731

2 жыл бұрын

sure, slapping spitfires with aim9b is realistic

@d1d4ct85

2 жыл бұрын

@@RFi731 wargaming shill

@pecazidle

2 жыл бұрын

@@d1d4ct85 Yeah, we all like if Italian pizza van from sixties blasts trough our riveted armor from 1942. But it makes in very realistic way , yay!

@d1d4ct85

2 жыл бұрын

@@pecazidle seethe cope dilate and cry boomer

@pecazidle

2 жыл бұрын

@@d1d4ct85 I ´m actually something like Xennial from post-soviet background. So something like Gorbatschowennial??

I had no idea there was a tank museum in my home town. Not even on iOS maps and doesn’t have any reviews. Definitely gonna check this out

Cone, soft factors like ergonomics and reliability are factors that cause proposals of such modifications

as soon as wargaming got their hands on "sprocket" game, they started selling "new premium """"""TANKS"""""""

@Hellsong89

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, once they have gone scraping barrel bottom from all soviet paper tanks and upscaled them until enough are sold and the nerf like they do with every vehicle. Fuck wargaming for p2w bullshit. WT aint much better, but least damage is depicted realistically.

The turret shown on the Matilda in the game image is actually a proposed modification of the M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage (HMC). The 75mm howitzer M3 was replaced with the 75mm gun M3 (as used by the M4 Sherman), hence the longer gun tube. One prototype did exist (see page 302 in Richard Hunnicutt's book Stuart: a History of the American Light Tank Vol. 1); it was offered as a potential tank destroyer, but was supplanted by the T70 (which became standardized as the M18 Hellcat) and never produced. Since the turret fitted to the LVT(A)4 was similar to (if not the same as) the M8 HMC's, the "nomenclature" is understandable. As for putting said turret on an A12 Matilda hull, it gives me, a builder of WW2 armor models, a neat kitbashing idea. I've already done the Italian hull/Czech turret build (as best I can), and have an R35 hull/T26 turret build in the offing. Thank you for the video; I'm always looking for new build subjects (actual or not).

I personally believe these will be part of the Well Deserved Reward or next year's anniversary event.

Nice touch with the music👌

Sprocket players are having a field day

I'm so excited for the 35R/T-26 mashup. One of my favorite historic mashup tanks.

Hey Cone, will u do the Yoh series in the future? Im looking forward to the cursed turrets some have.

Would be handy if you specify what is put on what, as you did with the first tank, especially for the last two tanks.

at 1:03 the tank on the left is a very early model T-34-85 with the D-5T gun

I can think of a few reasons to stick a Matilda turret on an LVT hull. Increased turret armor over the LVT turret, the Aussies and New Zealanders lacking ammunition for American guns in some areas, and reduced ground pressure over the Matilda hull on soft ground are a few I can think of why a field modification would be made that would result in this tank.

@pecazidle

2 жыл бұрын

Matilda turret on Bob Semple tank!

@josephahner3031

2 жыл бұрын

@@pecazidle lol poor thing's corrugated steel armor would crumple under the weight of nearly any turret of the ww2 era but if you could get it to work it'd be hilarious.

There is another of the matilda/staghound things in cairns hiding away behind a shed at the armour and artillery museum

@ConeOfArc you have just blown my mind. i live in the same city as "the house of tank" and i never even knew about it. i am currently looking up more info on it and i am planning to visit it in the next few days.

2:46 the turret on the Mathilda mk2 also look like a M22 Locust

0:26, I un ironically saw the actual photograph for that tank earlier today

In world of tanks console there’s a tech tree called mercenaries tanks. Not gonna explain what they are because I don’t wanna spoil what they are.

On the M 15, look at the road wheels. In most of the pictures we see 6 small wheels with a large, exposed suspension, as in the Pz.Kpfw. 35... in other photos there are large wheels like the Pz.Kpfw 38. I think this is an important distinction to make, since it changes which tank was used as the chassis for the hybrid.

@MarkhorSculpin

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, watching again, I see that you threw in a Pz. 38 picture when you mention it by name, saying it wasn't used. Nevermind!

Very interesting. Watching someone more knowledgeable talking about the realism of a game I enjoy is a win for me. Thanks mate

I like the Ford 3 ton in the intro, it’s a cute tank

Wot console has mercenary tanks introduced a couple of years ago which do something similar combining parts from different tanks with some having historical fact. For example there is a tank called the plaguebribger which combines a sherman hull with a jackson turret which was a real tank as the jackson hull was really just a modified sherman hull.

@michaeltelson9798

2 жыл бұрын

M36B2 was the designation and they were actually used in WWII and found later still used in Serbian service

The M4A2 T-34 is an absolute monstrosity.

I am waiting for Cone making/designing his own tank.

Prototypes are not combat vehicles. They are experiments. Experimental test case vehicles often change dramatically from drawing board and mock ups to production units. So if they are not intended for combat use, and they are placed in a game presented as combat vehicles, they are "fake" tanks.

God i love your cursed by design its amazing!

A recommendation for a Cursed by Design video. The Soviet StuG, Su-76I and it's variants.

Thx cone for confirming their historical accuracy.

I somehow think that these are likely Halloween event tanks, given the time that they enter test. But they have stat cards just as regular premium and tech tree tanks so they may not be. It seems strange for them to put these in completely without reason though, its not like Blitz or Console where they regularly mix/match tank hulls and turrets, PC usually doesnt do that

1:35 ive seen this particular T-34, its at the American Heritage museum

The T-34 Sherman isn't a bad idea on paper. The Sherman's gun is a bit of a let down but everything else about it trumps the T-34 by about a mile, especially mid to late war T-34s that suffered from practically every manufacturing defect in existence.

Im still waiting for Type TOG Heavy (TOG hull and Type 5 Heavy turret)

Sherman with t-34 turret 😂more likely a child putting a wrong part in lego

I got an idea for a fake WW2 tank, Take a Panther A hull place a R.R Meteor engine and extend the back out to make room for it and Panther G turret with a 17 pdr gun and turret mounted 30. cal, and of course a transmission that doesn't break every time it gets used and 20mm side plating along the sides and then track layered on the front for 'spaced' armor and the hull gunner removed for extra ammo

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

I'd prefer Britain simply get "Cuckoo", the rather well-documented Panther G captured and used by the 4th Coldstreams Guards.

The problem with the first two? Turret ring sizes. None of them match, and turret ring size conversion is next to impossible to do.

When I was a kid, I used to swap the turrets on Roco miniature tanks.

I really don't mind if they add those fictional tank designs, as long they balance the heck out of it

Can you take a look at fake ships like that weird carrier battleship hybrid?

The first panzer looks like an Italian chassis with a czechslovakian turrent

When it come to some of these prototype's , hybrid or frakenstein tanks. Some of them it would of been possible for them to be made in to the experimental or prototype phase and the project was cancelled for one reason or another. As due to the paper work surrounding them being destroyed , lost or is hidden away from public eye. People only know what they know from public sources . As for some of these expermental design's . The reason why some of them were stopped due to a better design replaced it or due to nation's/party poltic's involved to prevent further development of the experimental tank design.

Turret/Hull swapping with little regard to whether or not the tank existed opens up such a rabbithole of weird designs.

@pinngg6907

2 жыл бұрын

"Let's recreate that cursed tank in sprocket!" - someone

As far ,as u remember from my reading,there WERE numerous tries to upgun the Valentine & Matilda in Soviet Union during the war.

i like how the video is over 6 minutes but its still tagged as shorts :D

good vid with great points, Ive found quite a few questionable tanks in games over the years and often wonder about them, however, at the end of the day, its a cartoon tank game which annually offers up things like the "Waffentrager" and associates, so I wouldnt take authenticity as an important part of this game, jmho, keep the vids coming, enjoy them all :D cheers

My first thought when i saw these tanks was that its some tanks for halloween or something "frankenstein tanks". But seeing that the 2 of fhem had some "realism" in them suprised me.

I am just left wondering how much work needed to be done, to make the M4A2-34 or Matilda LVT a reality, especially with regards to the turret ring. Also, would the 85mm from the T-34-85 have been a considerable improvement over the 76mm, in terms of tank on tank combat? At least considerable enough to actually put a T-34-85 turret on an M4

I figured these things were for a special event, maybe for Halloween(would be easy as "frankentanks")

The LVT turret was fitted to a matilda hull for show post war. Why doesn't wargaming make the AC3 thunderbolt and AC$. AT the same time, fix the power to weight and the ground resistance (similar to M4A3E8)

I could imagine the Sherman and T-34 mix it would make sense in the earlier parts of the war or if you are besieged and encircled.

Please do a video on the P26/40 tank

2:43 isn't that from the gold coast war museum

Hey cone, since you seem interested in these type of tanks, you should do a video on Tigers, panthers and Panzer 4s having each other's turrets mounted on each other's hull. Ie like Panther turret on tiger hull

@ausaskar

2 жыл бұрын

There was a Panzer IV turret on a Panther hull for a command vehicle, the turret was welded in place and I think the gun was replaced with a dummy.