This video is one of the best instructional video I have seen in a long time! One is a great introduction which shows the structure properly. Then when you show how good this work in real life, makes me start to think about buying all the parts that you have. This has been a great commercial for both Mobius and DJI Phantom. Good work!

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bjorn, the compliment means a lot to me. I wish KZread wouldn't change the quality of the video with their compression techniques. The quality from the Mobius is really amazing. John

Paul, your idea is great and I didn't have any light surgical tubing or fuel line but did have some vacuum hose which might have worked but also could have been too stiff? I then got the idea of using some 300 ohm twin-lead. This was real easy to setup using two copper plated circuit boards on the XK Detect X380. The layout consisted of two boards with 4 short twin lead lengths. A RunCam HD was mounted on the bottom side of the board and the backside twin-lead lengths were shorter than the front lengths which angled the camera down a few degrees. The front lengths were 4.5 inches and back ones were 3.5 inches in length. I ran a test on it and like your setup there was very little jello and the props on this quad are a set of 9 1/2" carbon fiber props. The props replace the DJI 9450 props and these had to be drilled out and balanced. I am going to order some surgical tubing to replace the twin-lead cable to save weight. Thanks for your ideas!

Best video I've seen yet of the Möbius. Thanks! That's a beautiful area you live in.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend. I appreciate the compliment. John

Congratulations on your idea, I've been practicing for my DJI450 with SJ4000 camera and I have shared your video with various Spanish forums. A greeting and thanks for your work.

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend. Good luck with your new equipment. I'm glad you shared my video. Take care. John

What a great idea you came up with for the camera mount, I really like it. Great shots of CMAC too. Thanks dadhav.

Very nice. The fall colors are something we don't get much of here in California. It is pretty much just green or brown. You seem to have solved your 'jello' problem. It is a very stable picture now. Well done.

Amazing picture quality ! Very well done ! Great footage ! Great camera !

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks. The raw clip was much better even after the video editor. The resolution was better and there was smooth panning without dropped frames that make it look jerky. For some reason the KZread reduced the quality of the upload. J

Hello Rick, Ya know the more I look at that it seems like there are dropped frames of something. I wonder if something happens when KZread compresses the video. I'll have to take a look at the original again. I might be better off setting to 720P-60 to compensate for the panning when the copter is in yaw and rotating on it's axis. Thanks John

I think Rick could be right also. Actually I thought of filling the tubing but then thought sound and vibration travels really good through some liquids. I think incorporating longer tubing is a great idea as long as it can be in a configuration that keeps the camera stable, Maybe the X. Magnets are pretty much out because the compass interference. You can't even have keys or a cell phone in you're pocket when you calibrate before flight. I'm sure there can be improvements though. Thanks John

Thanks for the demo and for thinking outside of the box on your anti jello solutions , I am favorably impressed with the Mobius unit regarding cost and capabilities . Happy to see you turned off the sound on this fly around which prompts me to inquire as which component is the most noise offensive , motors or props and do you have any suggestions for noise suppression or elimination . Thanks for your time and demos .

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello Jack, The worst of the noise for me is with the props and I don't know of anyway to to reduce the effect. these white props are noisier for me than a set of carbon fiber that I use and I think that's because the soft plastic cavitates more than the carbon fiber. Thanks for watching and the compliments. John

I rigged up something similar to what you did after seeing your video. I didn't have any RC fuel line and tried some old vhf twinlead cable and it did help on a X380 quad. I then tried some aquarium tubing but it would kink so I never really wanted to use it. I am thinking that surgical tubing would be the best. The first trial was a lot better than any mount that I have tried including several carbon fiber plates with the rubber ball mounts. The props have been balanced with all my testing and your idea was the best. Most of the fellas flying the X380 use the stock gimbal shipped with the XK Detect X380-C. I fly FPV and the weight is critical for a long flight so a heavy gimbal is not good and besides, if the quad happens to go down the extra weight means you will have a lot of damage. I seen a review from Copter Hubsan flying with the stock X380-A camera/gimbal setup and it appeared to look real good with very little jello. The problem with jello comes in when flying in the wind and with high throttle. I went ahead and ordered the camera/gimbal setup and was surprised to see very little jello in the video. I did find out that the camera was a Mobius in a different cover! The Mobius software works with the camera and looks real good for customizing the camera. The Mobius cameras are pretty impressive and far cheaper than the GoPro cameras. I do have a GitUp Git1 camera but mounting it is a problem without a gimbal. The better camera the Git2 which has gyro stabilization should have been the one I ordered. The first test I did with the Twinlead was using a RunCam HD which which has given good results. Thanks for your ideas and happy flying.

@DadHav

7 жыл бұрын

Dennis, I'm glad even if I helped in some small way. It sounds like you're having fun and that's all that counts.

Very nice mount, simple but very effective. Really clever and the image looks great!

Wow, you've got a gorgeous property on the lake, very nice.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks, it's our labor of love. It used to be about the nicest property on the lake but in the last few years the deer have found the place and eaten almost everything that's at ground level. John

The suspension for the camera works , nice video !

Hello Ryan, actually you where responsible. I got the idea after watching one of the links you sent me. Thanks John

I understand what you're saying. Maybe I'll give it a try. If it works different I'll let you know. John

Nicely done! I've made several mounts for the Mobius on my 350QX and have solved the GPS RFI issue, but still have some jello. I'm going to incorporate the fuel line "vibration dampeners" into my mounting schema. Thanks!

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hey Analog Man, Ha, I never up graded my stereo from a tube set. You might guess there's a reason. Ya, good luck with trying the fuel line, it solved the problem for me. Try to find som soft line. I'm gonna try going a little softer yet with some surgical tubing. Of course you know balance is important. I don't know if I mentioned it but I got some good results by balancing the motors with the use of a cell phone vibration analyzer ap. So far I have never had a problem with interference with the Mobius on the Phantom. I'm using a copper clad board between the camera and the Phantom just to be careful. Good luck and let me know if you try the fuel line. John

@the1realanalogman

10 жыл бұрын

***** Hey there DadHav. Ya, you figured out the reference in my handle for sure! Lots of great "tube stuff" out there. Although I've got lots of digital, I'm still using analog a lot - by choice. Anywho, I just tested my 1st fuel line cam mount. It worked very well, but not perfect. As you suggested, I need tubing with more flex. The ground clearance on the 350 QX is restrictive and forced me to make really tight bends with the fuel line. Still, I believe this is going to work out fine. I also deployed copper foil tape on my new cam mount and GPS is still locking OK. I also have it inside the body of the quad just to be safe. BTW, the place you're flying looks amazing! I'm also in OH, a bit south of Cbus. Praying for Spring!!! Thanks for the reply man. I'll keep you posted on my cam mount progress. Oh, I'd really like to hear about your motor balancing process!! Best Regards!

Very cool! I am glad I was able to help out.

Very clever idea, thanks for sharing and expanding our minds. I would expect if you couple it to a brushless gimbal it couldn't be any better. Not sure what you would have to do to use it with the Phantom, but some of the other units or your own build would work nicely.

just saw this vid. I haven't seen anyone use this method before. very interesting.

Wow, this is an excellent design! I'd like to try and incorporated it on the SSG. Thanks for the excellent footage!

I agree. Well done. Thanks for the video. (Tom)

Wow, so clever for the mount! RC fuel line!!! Many thanks!

Hi Paul, your mount should work good on most cameras and they might have to be tuned by using different lengths of the plastic fuel line. I am not using a Mobius camera on my X380 instead I'm using the RunCam HD and the reasoning is that after reviewing several reviews on the Mobius there was interference caused by the camera since it's not shielded. I hope they have corrected the problem. I checked the RunCam HD and it has a coating on the inside for shielding and so far no problems with it running FPV. I was wondering if anyone has tried surgical hose which is available off of Ebay? I am thinking that different lengths need to be used like for the rear of the camera in order to tilt it down. You have a real good idea which will help people get started with the quads and cameras. Thanks for the video.

DadHav this is absolutely fantastic idea. I was serching to solve vibes on the motorbike. I will adapt this idea and will send test results before and after.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello, It might help some. You can use thinner longer tubing also and it might help more for your application. Have fun, that's what's most important. John

you were right this mount worked a lot better. so how could one acquire one of these? and did leaving the shielding on help keep signal interference down? i fly a Blade 350 qx and acquiring the gps lock has been my biggest issue. i really want to use my mobius for ariel filming.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

I can't say I ever had a problem getting a lock with the Phantom, shielding or not. I made this mount by hand and it's very easy. Any kind of configuration will work as long as you have the tubing set up similar. John

a very clean solution, all thumbs up for you man!

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks a compliment from you is really welcome. Your video with the dog almost brought tears to my eyes. I've watched videos from all over the world but to see something so nice with a great dog and a little muddy creek or river beats all. Congratulations. John

Very well done. Nice and clean.

Yes, it seemed to work well. I think I need to shoot at 60 FPS though. John

So can you receive the video in real time on the ground or only after downloading the memory? You have such a beautiful place to live! You are a very blessed man.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hi friend, haven't seen you around in a while. I don't have the transmitter and receiver for First Person Viewing (FPV) It's point and shoot for me at this time. Take care. John

Nice! I think Rick Reyes might be on to something with the X-pattern mount. If this was my project, I'd experiment with different types of tubing, or maybe filling the tubes with a liquid of some sort, e.g. oil. But all in all, you have pretty much eliminated the jello already. Well done. P.S. How about magnetic mounting with the dampening material (e.g. foam) in between magnets? How would the magnets interfere with the camera/aircraft overall?

very nice and smart solution!!! Thanks for the video!!

Great ideal I'm always looking for suggestions to mount my cameras and that looks like it will work to stop the jello effect Thanks for the ideal

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Someone has done the same thing and made the mount in 4 minutes. So you don't have to be to fancy to try it out. Good luck John

You might be right about the liquids (I'd still want to try the oil, just for the heck of it). Maybe the tubing material itself is the key to ultimate results. Have you tried some of the sound and vibration dampening materials that the professional car audio industry is selling? They are supposedly very good, albeit some are pretty expensive. Much better than bituminous or rubber sheets, though, which work mostly by adding weight which in turn reduces vibrations.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it.. i was having a ton of jello with the mobius, what a lot of it ended up being was the camera not fitting in tight to the slide in case. Once I mounted the camera directly to the copter (sans slide case) my issues were resolved.

There's something about nitro right? I still fly a Cosmic Wind made in 1970 if I remember right. It has a Max 40 P (Pylon) nitro engine on it and is still one of my favorites. Take care Guy, it's always good to hear from you. John

Nice job there :) did it fix your problem??

Is this better than using a piece of soft foam?

Hello Rusty and thanks, I just wish KZread wouldn't condense the video or do what ever they do to downgrade the resolution. Anyway I have something I can use for a while. I think a score of idiots are going to ruin the flying of these multi rotors for everyone else though. It may not pay to do anything more expensive than what I have into it. At this time of the year I'd like to be heading out your way until spring. Take care friend. John

I'm pretty sure the resolution is off because it is darker, so the ISO had to be turned up making a less sharp, grainy video

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Ya, probably. I also might have had a lens B or view of angle setting on the software. I've heard it's wider angle is less sharp if I remember right. Thanks John

It appears that the jello affect has been pretty well taken care of. I am at the start of FPV and videoing and have a Mobius on order and have been experimenting with a YS80 camera and have been getting lots of jello. So I am going to go down this path and see what I can achieve. Thanks for the idea.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello David, If you plan to use a gimbal you might have some improvement also, but keep in mind prop and motor balance should be the first thing you go after. I balanced the motors by using a vibrometer program on the cell phone. I just put the phone against the plastic by the motor and without the props on I added some tape pieces on the rotor until I checked the vibration. Good luck J

Excellent solution. I used oxygen nasal-canula tubing (very easy to get) but your method of anchoring the carbon rods is great. I do believe that utube brodcasts in no more than 720p so your files uploaded will not look as well as orig. files. See Techmoan.

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Craig Ochsner Hi Craig, I'm sure your right about the resolution. It's a shame, but things are changing here and they're not getting better as far as I'm concerned. I just use 720 now. Thanks for the link, it looks really interesting.John

brilliant solution! And it works as good as it looks.

Clever. It's sort of the same concept as the dampening used on the rcexplorer tricopter. Actually I think this is better as the softest dampening is side to side instead of front to back.

How are you, my friend, I noticed that the camera is upside down, how was the image? Does it have any function to invert the image?

@DadHav

7 жыл бұрын

Hello, There is a very handy software program for the Mobius. There is a setting there for inverting the image.

I tried this mod on my xk detect and it works great. it eliminates all the jello. thanks for the video.

@DadHav

8 жыл бұрын

+Oscar Flores ....Hello Oscar, I'm glad it worked for you. It's funny but almost any variation does also.

hi, I have the same camera and I use it with my phantom 2, the only thing I do not understand is that you must load the independant, its not take direct charge of phantom? solution ?

@DadHav

8 жыл бұрын

+michaal triki Hello, I'm not sure what you are asking but some people have made adapters to power their camera from one of the cells on the phantom battery. If you expand the video description above you will find some links to Mobius forums. You should be able to find an answer there.

Thank you for your inspirational video. Here is my version of Anti Jello Mount for Mobius Anti Jello Mount for FPV Mobius Action Cam

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hey Eugene that looks like great results. Congratulations. And you didn't even use the softer surgical tubing. Thanks for sending the video. John

great set up well done…. cheers

Thanks for the great idea! I'm off to get the parts for this build :)

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Mostly Harmless Good luck, there have been some super simple replications made and they all seem to work well.John

@mostlyharmlessrc3920

9 жыл бұрын

***** I built mine out of stiff plastic from a storage box, with oval pieces of fish tank air-tubing between. My mobius fits between two 'plates' on some Velcro and my video is vibration free! Thanks again.

@6:36 the picture is gr8. when its in high/low light its kinda dark but out in the open its beautiful.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks, it's a good little camera for the money and the entry level setup is a fun challenge. John

great video!

Can I also ask you why you did the etching. Why couldn't you just leave it on the board ? thanks again

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello Thor, That's a good question. On one hand it would seem that any amout of copper between the camera and the GPS would shield any RF interference but on the other hand is to much likely to interfere with the transmitter to receiver strength? Don't know. John

This is not stock footage...right?You used post processing to remove jitter? Adobe or w/e ? If this is RIGHT out of the camera with No post...wow, amazing !

@DadHav

8 жыл бұрын

+BOOSTEDLASER Hello Boot. I assemble and post from Pinnacle but there is no enhancement for jitter on the video. The stock video is the same as what's posted. There are many variations of the mount posted on KZread including one that only takes 4 minutes to make kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqmCysuDcbnbnZM.html They all seem to work pretty good.

The best designs are simple and effective like your video and result.

I'm so sorry that they cant find the down airplane at the corn field.... they should installed "BEEP FINDER".. Great video and nice place... and thank you for the tip. will surely try this on my next project... no w you need to get FPV! Cheers mate!

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks Raymond. John

hello,, is there any interference problem using this mobius cam to dji phantom loosing gps signal to phantom.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello, I've never seamed to have an issue but seeing the problems that others had I used a copper circuit board to mount the camera to. I think the fact that it is upside down has something to do with it too. I've asked many times on the forum where they talk about this but I get no answers as to how many with Phantoms have trouble. John

just seen your video I used to live in Cleveland but now I'm living in Hawaii.I have the day JJRC tarantula x6.I just got the FPV system for this quadcopter off banggood.I was wondering how much would you charge to make me a camera mount like this for the tarantula.Mahalo

@DadHav

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Hyde Hello Paul. I lived in Cleveland for 35 years and went to South High. I don't make and sell these but they're so easy to make. Take a look at this guy who shows how to make one in four minutes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqmCysuDcbnbnZM.html

@paulhyde4899

8 жыл бұрын

thanks for the reply, I have seen that video yours looks so much nicer and so much better.I especially like the way you can tilt it.I appreciate it very much mahalo.

would you tell me how you attached your Mobius bracket to the bottom circuit board? Great video

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello, I sanded the rubbery finish off the back of the Mobius mount then used 3M Ultra double sided tape. This is the black tape that holds something like 20 pounds per square inch or something like that. It will have to be cut off when I want to remove it. John

@thorfoot1

10 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks for the info john. I appreciate your help.

Thanks for sharing

Great Video, Your Camera mount looks very good, Nice and neat, The film you showed looks really smooth, Have you tried balancing your props, Even a little out of balance can cause the smallest vibration, also the tube on your mount,,you could try different sizes of silicon tubing,,, ps like your location. its beautiful.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, I plan on experimenting some more. Thanks, the house is on Lake Mohawk in Ohio USA. J

Nice :) You could also use spring for the same result at least they wont react to temperature change :) Cheers!

Thanks ,-- is it youtube or is it the focus on your camera -- its not as sharp as my mobius.

@DadHav

7 жыл бұрын

I did notice that the upload wasn't as good as the original file. I think something happened on KZreads side with this one.

Fantastico y simple... :)

The price has dropped almost in half since this came out. I Imagine a lot of people will be flying multi rotors next year. John

If you are referring to the video transmitter, I would think that it would all depend on where you mounted your antenna. Just saying,

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hi Thor, Actually I was referring to the actual RC transmitter and receiver. I'm not flying FPV. J

Nice job getting rid of the jello

Thank you for your smart solution. I copied your idea. It seems it works best with low light conditions. When the day is very shiny ( lot of direct sun light), I still get the jello. Any other hint?

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello Luis, Have you worked on balancing props and motors both? Are you using soft surgical tubing or harder plastic? John

@LuisAlvarez-fj5ny

10 жыл бұрын

***** I am using silicon RC gas line tube. It is like soft rubber. Propellers are balanced. I do not know how to balance motors.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Luis Alvarez Hello Luis. I balanced my rotors using a vibrometer application on my cell phone. With no prop on the motor I touch the phone to the end of the arm by the motor and watch the xyz wavelengths produced by the vibration. I used the silver reflective tape to balance the rotors because it is a little heavier than regular tape and the color matches. I randomly stick a piece about 10 mm wide anywhere on the rotor then move it around until I see the vibration at it's lowest point. I then add or subtract tape for fine tuning. I hope this might help some. The only other thing I can think of is trying thinner surgical tubing on the mount. John

Hi. can you tell where I can buy boards like that?

@DadHav

7 жыл бұрын

Hello, The boards are coper plated circuit boards. I think I got them from Radio Shack. You don't have to use these though, any thin fiberglass or plastic would work. I thought the copper would shield the camera from the circuitry but many have made this mount without any shielding.

@spectr49

7 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for replying. Can you explain how to attach the fuel line to the board? I was thinking of using a plastic/pvc ID card, but I'm not sure how to attach the tube to it. Your board seems to have an "extension" for the tube to attach to

@DadHav

7 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have 1/8" wooden dowel rods attached to the boards to hold the surgical tubing. You can glue these on or attach them with copper wire like I did. There is really nothing special about the setup. You can see ho easy it can be done on this video someone else posted kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqmCysuDcbnbnZM.html

very nice

can I use surgical tubing instead of RC fuel tubing?

@DadHav

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rondo, Actually I/m using surgical tubing if I remember right.

@rondoschiavoni8840

4 жыл бұрын

@@DadHav that is great its more flexible ,

Nice Tutorial, nice guy and nice location.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks friend. I appreciate the comment. I hope you look at some of the other videos. Have a nice day. John

@StereodreieckRC

10 жыл бұрын

***** I am only interested in Planes, Cars and FPV. Please make more vids about that. Did you subscribed my channel ? I subscribed yours.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

stereodreieck yes I subscribed and will have a look around. I see you like sail planes. I have a classic Aquilla Grande 3 meter sailplane (70's) that I converted to electric. I made my own extended shaft motor to fit. I love it and have a small camera installed. It can fly for hours on just an occasional kick from the motor. It will climb out at 45 degrees from a hand launch. I think there's a few pictures of the motor and maybe the plane on my Motor Construction Video. John Brushless Motor Construction

@StereodreieckRC

10 жыл бұрын

***** Awesome, do you have a Video of this plane.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

stereodreieck Hello, I have some video from the plane but none of a launch and flying around. I will have to try for something soon. There were a few forums that got really upset about me cutting the nose on this classic and putting a motor in it but it works so wonderful that I have to think they were wrong. Our club is currently flying at a smaller field than I'm used to. I'll try to drag it out to where there's a little more room. John

brilliant!

I see you are from Ohio? I live in Canton, OH and primarily motovlog and post videos on KZread. I've flown RC aircraft for years. Problem here in the Canton, OH area, is finding places to fly. Most parks/schools have banned it. I purchased a v262 quad to start out with. Will be purchasing a Mobius soon. Looking at these different mount options. I sell polymers/plastics for a living.. Sound abatement and vibration dampening is an area I have some knowledge in. Great video and nice job on the mount....

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hey Mr. Polymers. You've probably run into my friends Roy and Jason at Aerotech hobby shop then. We have some things in common. Years ago I was in the injection molding business in Hartville and was Engineering Manager for another molding company by the name of Different Dimensions which was on Killian Rd, so I know a little bit about plastics as well. Of course we like the R/C hobbies and I'm a Chevy kind of guy also. In my years I had a 58 a Corvair, 63 SS convertible, 64 SS convertible, 75 Monte Carlo, and still have my 1992 Corvette. When I was a kid more than 55 years ago I had two Lambretta motor scooters. One was the blue and cream colored 175 cc and the other was a very old 150 with the tubing style sport frame. Great fun for a 14 year old. I know what your saying about finding a good place to fly. I think the Canton club flies somewhere in the Sate Rd / St. Peters Church Rd. area. I'm in the Corsair Model Airplane Club that used to fly at the Summit Fairgrounds but we lost the field to the parks. We fly out in Kent now on property that used to be part of Rocky Knolls golf course. Maybe our paths will cross some day. Keep me posted on your Mobius experience. John

@MrPolymers

10 жыл бұрын

***** Yes. I'm familiar with Aerotech. Years ago, when in college, I built my first gas powered trainer. A guy by the name of Bob Budash? who owned Modelers Haven did a test flight for me. Found I had a bad warp in the wing since I did not build with a wing jig. That was 34 years ago. Have flown off/on at Stark branch of Kent State until it was banned. Have recently purchased a few helicopters including a 6 channel variable pitch heli that I have a hard time controlling. Since I motovlog, I like to post various KZread videos. I thought the quad would be great as a means of getting aerial video. So, thought I would start cheap with the v262. I really like the DJI Phantom, but not in the budget with kids still in college. I'll subscribe to you. My brother in law owned property at Mohawk just to take his boat and ski. I've been there a few times. I think he has long since sold the property. Maybe we can get together sometime when I get better with flying these things. LOL.. Best regards.. Terry

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

OK Terry, Take care Pal John

where can i buy the parts to make this?

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

A hobby shop would be a good place to start. There is nothing special or tricky about it. I'm not sure you have to use circuit board material like I did. You could use carbon fiber, fiberglass, plastic or probably aircraft ply. Simple wooden dowels or aluminum tubing would work instead of carbon fiber. You could use part of the plastic GoPro mount where I machined the swivel part. A little bit of R/C fuel line and you're all set. You could always stick some sticky back copper or aluminium foil on it for shielding if you think you need it. John

here's a tip, dump the carbon fiber blades and return to the much more flexible original phantom blade, they don't transmit the vibration of the copter and the jello disappears....try it. HJ

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Herb, I did find that out. At least they were easier to balance and better for me than the CF. John

beautiful place)

Nice system.

How can I I order one of these +DadHav ?

@DadHav

8 жыл бұрын

+Darryl Price I don't make and sell these but they're so easy to make. Take a look at this guy who shows how to make one in four minutes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqmCysuDcbnbnZM.html

@UniversalKofi

8 жыл бұрын

+DadHav easy to make for people who are not very sick, I suppose.

thank you ;-)

awesome

Smart!

Thumbs up !

The Coolest thing thx for the video

I have found the perfect gimbal for Mobius. Can´t be better for that price! It is possible to control pan and tilt when you fly. This is what I want, but just now, but no money for it, but it will be on my wishlist Gimbal von Goodluckbuy mit Mobius Action Cam

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

That lucks like it really works good. John

Nice¡¡¡ I will try that with rubber hose.

Hi Dad, well read a bunch of the treads per your links and after all the BS from the techno heads, I'd say I'm more confused than ever, LOL, I just bought a Phantom 2 and have a mobius and love your mount, so gunna try it, just gotta find the board you used, Radio Shack, computer store maybe, then give it a go, guess we'll see. If you have further impute, please do. Great vid, I'm a standup Paddle Boarder, that lake looks very inviting!! Thanks, Mike

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, glad you liked the video. Any kind of board will work. I thought the circuit board might help with RF interference but I'm not sure it does anything at all. There's a lot of copies of the mount on KZread know and some are really simple. Just have fun. John

@mikea3015

9 жыл бұрын

Ok, thanks, I certainly hope so, I've only been flying a few months and found the phantom 2 used from B & H Photo so decided to jump into a larger bird. The Phantom is a big step up from my Alias, so of course fear losing the thing if I don't watch how I fly and what I attach, was thinking the small Mobius was a safe bet due to its size. Doesn't sound as if your having trouble, so hopefully I'm lucky here to, as the interference doesn't sound as if it's consistent from one bird to another. Oh well I'll keep reading the threads. Thanks. Mike

@mikea3015

9 жыл бұрын

Howdy, Howdy, one other thing I noticed in you Video using the fuel line as dampeners, you mention that the camera was in Wide Angle mode, I wasn't aware that the Mobius had a setting, so it's a setting not a lens, correct??, Phantom hopefully here Wed. maybe tomorrow. OOP, which Phantom do you have, 1 or 2? Mike

@mikea3015

9 жыл бұрын

Hey Dad, just received my P2, so using the stock GoPro mount for the swivel section of your mount design. By watching the vid a few more times it appears as thought you used double sided tape with maybe a very thin piece of foam (?) between the mobius mount and the bottom half of your mount. Yes??

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

Mike A Hello Mike. I used double sided 3M tape that is about 1/16" thick. This is a black super high strength tape. You can find it in most hardware stores though, you will notice it's about twice as expensive. I clean surfaces with alcohol before using it and if I remember right I also sanded the soft finish off the Mobius Cam mount. I also have a piece of the tape under the little swivel mount that is screwed to the Phantom. Don't forget you can buy extra mounting parts for the Cam, so you don't have to worry about using one up. John

can you see me one of these? Contact me if you can make me one and ship to me.

@DadHav

9 жыл бұрын

googxmsr Goog these are so easy to make that you don't need me to send you one. Almost anything that resembles it works. Take a look at this clever guy who can make one in less than five minutes:kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqmCysuDcbnbnZM.html

Nice Pad Dad :-)

"Look like a goverment thing" XDDDDDD Nice video. I hope i will be able to do one of this in the future :)

i60.tinypic.com/9vebte.jpg I got myself thinking what do I have hanging around to work with and I used tire wrap, and weather striping, cut to strips and will test out.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Hello, I saw your picture and watch some of your videos. I hope your idea works out for you. Let me know some where down the line. You already know balance is really important too. John

@fishycomics

10 жыл бұрын

Blade 350 QX Mobius Project De-Shake In this video I added a few vids, and that video of the actual flight with the mount I modified. The flight started smooth, flown around smooth, and when it is windy and the qud chopping through the air, I can accept that roughness. so in my eyes it did the trick. I flipped her so you can see it held on. thanks for the interest. I guess no matter how we look at it , I may never get a perfect video Lol allow time to convert

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

***** Nice job, The video looks much better. There's something fun about the challenge to get good video from an entry level system, right? I'm waiting to see a gimble made especially for the Mobius. I think there should be a way to get a much more compact system than what's used for the GoPro. Hey I noticed a vibrating sound in your video. I heard the same from someone who had loose buttons on the camera and they where vibrating. Just a thought. Take care and thanks John

@fishycomics

10 жыл бұрын

Yep it is annoying, I already opened it up, and the bat plug is sketchy. I bet like you said, it can be that so a dab of glue, rubber glue will do the trick. I like to see that link for the Mobius. I am waiting for my board for the gopro gimbal, see if I can burn this one up to Lol I go that route if I can for sure!!!! I have a video, flight 17-20 will see if any better windy again as always

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

***** Hi, If you look at the discription under the video I have some links to forums on the Mobius. You'll find them really interesting. Yesterday I had my first flight where I could notice a satellite drop out with the mobius on the Phantom. Bummer, I'll have to work on that. John

Nice :)

maybe someday i'm ingrained to nitro////// ha wat's up john

Good job. Me too I use this camera but with a waterproof box in dive :p Neptune sb-1 Submarine : Oasis de vie This camera is ok in the sky and in the sea.

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Newton's Laws of Motion. Give them a try.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

Goat, I try them from morning to night along with any other human on earth I would imagine. You may have to enlighten me a little bit with a more qualifying comment. My limited knowledge of Isaac pertains to three laws which explain what happens with actions and reactions to mass as it pertains to movement and stationary objects. I'm sure the laws read on what is happening here but it is just as easy to say vibration transfers to the cmos sensor. We all know that much without reading physics books. You could be helpful by explaining how you would use any of the laws to overcome the problem. Here's an example: The motor vibration is an action and the reaction is opposite sending a wave through the plastic hull, camera mount and finally to the CMOS sensor of the camera along with other parts of the airframe as well. This is expected as explained by the laws of motion, but doesn't help to finding an answer to the problem. My guess was to minimize the Action with balance and get in the way of the Reaction with a shock absorber. I think Isaac would be happy to see us in reference of his material though. J

@GoatZilla

10 жыл бұрын

The word "inertia" came from the idea that an object has an "innate property" which resists change in its movement. We know this today as "mass". To get rid of jello, take your camera and secure it to the heaviest object in the craft which can be isolated. That's usually the battery. Then, as one unit, isolate that from the source of vibration. Granted, on your Phantom, your options are a bit limited. But then again, that makes it an area for innovation. The guys flying the more open designs have no excuse.

@DadHav

10 жыл бұрын

GoatZilla Well, you certainly know what you're talking about. Ha, no excuses for the flying hardware stores right. What attracted me to the Phantom was the clean lines, and even what I did with this mount seems to be a compromise to the nice looks of the ship. You're right, using heavy objects in the mount system is a key if you can work with it. The mount I built here was inspired by someone who hung a board below the hardware store copter and on the board he had his battery and camera. The board was hanging on braided wire like for hanging pitchers on the wall so the combination of weight and suspension actually stopped the vibration and also gave the mount sort of a gyroscopic affect that made the video very smooth. Hmm, but it was unacceptably ugly. So far this seems to be working. I may go back and rebalance the motors with the cell phone vibration ap and call it quits for a while. Thanks a lot for the constructive reply. I thought you'd be mad at me for mine. John