Jack was the one who said the Cardinals had a bad rep 🤣

Jordan Walker would have also voted that analytics is ruining his career.

Would like to know what percent would've chosen Cards as place they would want to play say 15 years ago. The organization has seriously fallen off.

Why don't they want to come here. It's not the fans, not the taxes. With the most World Series rings in the national league, it should be more of a desirable destination. Atlanta as a city is no more exciting than St. Louis, but now everyone wants to play there. I firmly blame Mozaliak for killing the desire to play here. Jocketty got Edmonds, Rolen, Pujols, McGwire, LaRussa, and Duncan. I never remember many not wanting to come here. DeWitt continues to support the Mozaliak Way and most players don't want to be a ,500 team that tries to pull a rabbit out of their hats at the trade deadline. I blame the front office, and ownership needs to "Shildt" Mozaliak and his entourage. Then, bring in some excitement back by investing in winning instead of ballpark village. They are spending enough money, just wasting it on players that are not that good. Mikolas was not a good investment even though he was cheaper than Montgomery. Note to DeWitts, put a real championship team on the field, and we will spend money 💰 like never before. Trade players, before they lose all their value, names available upon request. Thanks for the show. I hope ownership bothers to read it.

@MGillDesign

Ай бұрын

your statement was concise, informative... and downright spot on.

@Excitegaming0

Ай бұрын

A lot of these guys who would answer these questions don’t have outstanding character, they probably do not care about fan support or the team, they care about themselves and themselves only. Do you think goldy would answer these questions? No because he is all class. The players answering these questions are classless and is exactly why they did this behind a screen. They are scared to be called out and they should be.

@Jeff76767

Ай бұрын

@@Excitegaming0wait, so these players lack character for prioritizing themselves, their earnings, and their families? What do you do in your job? What an utterly stupid comment.

@Jeff76767

Ай бұрын

@@Excitegaming0so prioritizing yourself and your family means low character? What do you do in your job? The internet has some dumb comments, and this is one of them.

@Excitegaming0

Ай бұрын

@@Jeff76767 well thank god what you believe is dumb doesn’t actually determine it being dumb. You completely missed the point of the comment which makes you objectively dumb. I said the people who chose to answer some of these questions like the most overrated player question for example are people with low character because they are doing it behind a curtain. also yes selfishness is of low character and when you play on a TEAM game selfishness can’t be had. Have your opinions sure, I will never respect someone who has to hide behind a curtain to say it. If you don’t want to say it with your face attached to it maybe you shouldn’t say it at all? That was my point, not what you tried to make it. I never said anything about family in my original comment, projection must be your specialty.

Great show. Good to hear something other than the normal stuff every once and a while.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

We can do off beat stuff a lot in the off-season it's just usually reserved for team days off in the summer haha

Damn, this was a fun episode! Loved it!

20:29 STL used to be a prime destination for players, and not all that long ago either. Reasons typically cited had to do with the perceived knowledge level of the fan base and their generally supportive nature when it came to the players, etc. Now we seem to get basically no love at all. I’m sure that the way the question was framed probably had something to do with the answers received, but it’s sad that we’ve seemingly fallen off the map entirely.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

It's definitely more of a niche now to see guys want to be in STL removed from other factors

Good show. Interesting poll. I think the WBC is fun, but if we're going to have pros in the Olympics instead of the All Star game, I'd like to see us have the best players out there. No Older guys looking to land a job. The Olympics has more gravitas to me than the WBC. It would be fun to see our best against everyone else's. I wouldn't predict Dream Team 1 type dominance because a good number of our biggest stars will be playing for other countries if they play at all, I'm guessing. Also, a poll that shows what we know. You're not going to ever see a free agent sign for Cardinals history in place of real money. You can't sell 11 championships quite as well when we're losing.

The problem with the cardinals right now is managment. Period

Everybody now has a Ballpark Village it's just the area a lot of players would rather live someplace else

I, for one, would absolutely love if mlb players were to participate in the Olympics. It would be a second post-season, essentially. Some of the top players in the game opt out of playing in the All-Star game and especially the home run derby. I feel as if players had a chance to play for their country, while in mid-season form, there would be fewer opt outs. From a spectators point of view, that would be awesome!

Awesome video

It isn’t surprising to me. An ownership group that decided to shoot for mediocrity will get that. Players want to win, they may not even need the best salary but the trend over the last 10 years the ownership hasn’t met the challenge.

All the “experts” claim that the way the game was played before analytics wouldn’t work now. I wonder how they know this, since nobody plays the game this way anymore?

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

You'll never change your mind George but the information is out there, they've got enough of it to know.

Thinking the game would be best served by shortening spring training and working more off days into the season. Agree 💯with your Olympics take.

In the case of Jordan Walker, I, the modern day, cardinal management and coaching way of tbanking has screwed him up and delayed. If not destroyed toid his professional career by trying to make him something he is not. He is a third baseman, not an outfielder, and he is a hard ground ball. Hitter with occasional home run power rather than a home run hitter. And yet they want him to be the opposite and I think. If they would have left him alone and put him at his natural position he would have a far better average than the current third baseman does

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Being a ground ball hitter and not having speed doesn't work. He needs to hit line drives.

I think Harper was the correct answer 6 years ago, but part of that wasn't really his fault. I remember ESPN comparing him to Albert Pujols. Harper has never really been bad, but when you compare him to one of the best hitters this century he falls woefully short. He's had one truly great year (2015) and a very good year (2021) in his career and plenty of decent/good years, but he falls short of being truly elite to me. ESPN would have inducted him into the HOF after 2015.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

He's a no doubt HOFer. But he's been even more consistent post COVID that's fair

@bloggersniffle5358

Ай бұрын

​@@bschaeffer12 He's 10th right now in WAR on the active list. And he is certainly on the trajectory to get there if he plays out his current contract without falling apart. He's right in line with guys like Jason Heyward, Marcus Semien, Cutch. His next highest WAR after his two great seasons is 4.4. Betts has 20 more WAR in 700 fewer PA. I just don't see HoF for Harper (right now).

@KevinWM2

Ай бұрын

If Harper stays healthy, he still has time to put up the counting stats with a long career, but Harper certainly isn't making Cooperstown with the dominance that was projected of him unless that comes inexplicably late in his career.

Is the live stream coming out before midnight?

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Haha there's not a live stream man I covered the game. I'm actually about to do a post explaining I won't be able to record until morning.

Maybe it's not all his fault because he probably lost a lot from all those injuries and surgeries, but Flaherty was definitely overrated. Was supposed to be the next big ace, and instead became a rather inconsistent journeyman pitcher.

🔥🔥

18:18 hate to go "there" but I'm thinking Atlanta has some of the best strip clubs in the country. "Knowing what I know"... lol

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Oh gosh 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

When it comes to analit is, I think Jordan Walker is a prime example how they are potentially bad for a player. I had rather see. A guy hit the ball hard on the ground. I'm rather than trying to get it in the air. Because the averages would say you're going to get far more hits by putting the ball in play. The New York home runs best friend by swinging for the fence. But that's just my opinion. I am old school and when I blade high school and babe Ruth We? Were Coach to put the ball on the ground.I just don't understand

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

They don't need walker to be a singles hitter. His body type he has a chance to do damage. Batting average is not an important stat for him as much as several others.

Cardinals got a vote from Kyle Gibson probably

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Uhhh no, weird comment

No it would not work just like the world games most players come back in a swamp they didn't get to finish strong training I say no

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Fair, I just personally disagree

It's odd that everything negative about the Cardinals coincides with genius Mo assuming full control. Hmmm....I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

Mo has had full control for like 20 years!

@Jeff76767

Ай бұрын

@@bschaeffer12that’s his point. It’s been about 9 years too long.

@lanceowens8701

Ай бұрын

Yes. And it's been a slow, steady decline since then. He rode Jocketty's success for a few years, and then what happened? Proof shown in the absolute lack of depth in our farm system without trading a ton of big prospects.​@bschaeffer12

I completely disagree with you about the U.S. wouldn't wipe the floor with Japan etc. The starting CF for Japan can't even start at CF on one of the worst MLB teams. What a joke

It’s a poorly run organization that doesn’t prioritize winning. There is zero accountability for poor results, evidenced by the fact that the entire front office still has jobs as well as the egotistical manager who hasn’t accomplished anything. The city of St. Louis isn’t attracting players on its own unless they’re on a retirement tour. Sorry, but it’s not. If the organization isn’t competitive, no one is coming here.

I've always felt that Bryce Harper is overrated. He rarely hits over .300. You have to go to OPS to rate him. The greats give you both avg and OPS.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

OPS is far more relevant than average. We'll have to sincerely agree to disagree on this one.

@Jeff76767

Ай бұрын

lol, you’re out of your mind. He’s a hall of famer. No one cares about batting average anymore.

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

@@Jeff76767 we're finally firmly on the same side lol

@user-rb4ip7ki7u

Ай бұрын

The greats give you both

@user-rb4ip7ki7u

Ай бұрын

Not only do the greats give you *both*, they do it consistently over the years.

I still would vote Bryce Harper as the most overrated, grant you he has earned a little bit of respect as of late, doing better in playoffs. He has good tools but is a mental midget. He was heralded from the beginning as some sort of budding superstar and for some reason put in the All-Star game as a what, rookie nineteen year-old? Remember he missed the easy fly ball in that game? 🤦🏻‍♂️ why was he in that Allstar game??!!

Don't need to be in the Olympics let amateur players do that

@bschaeffer12

Ай бұрын

I disagree