This the best form of beat down. “Can we move on?” … “I don’t need an answer from you”. Boom. This is how you answer the question.

@TToTToTT

2 жыл бұрын

lol reminds me of the rock "It doesnt matter what u say!"

Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam handled this brilliantly. Impressive; most impressive.

@sarishmohar9386

Ай бұрын

No he tried to use a dictatorial approach and breach of privacy and irrelevant red herrings. The angmoh was spot on in his replies. They can silence Singaporeans and bully them but doing it to other people is laughable. It feels like they think they have a monopoly over the world.

@kiasuwei1

26 күн бұрын

@@sarishmohar9386 Care to elaborate on your first point on how K Shan's explanation constituted to a dictatorial approach, a breach of privacy, and the use of irrelevant red herrings? Also if you want, do share as well how Simon Milner was spot on in his replies.

Shanmugam: Can we move on? Baldy: Shanmugam: I don't need an answer from you. Matha faka

@TsarOfRuss

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha IT WAS EPIC !!! damn! he was so calm while saying all this! i would have lost it when the Facebook guy was frowning and talking back

@MrVijayranganathan

6 жыл бұрын

It's like Dwayne Johnson's modified attitude.. "it doesn't matter"

@MrVijayranganathan

6 жыл бұрын

mash maddy he is not an indian.. he is a singapore born Tamilian

@ML-yu5ij

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrVijayranganathan why don't you tell that to his face ?

@parnamsaini4751

2 жыл бұрын

Ben...amaa..va?

As a Malaysian, I can only dream that our minister/s will reply with such eloquence coupled with facts and proper reasoning. No such luck for us. The best you'll probably get, after a fit of kindergarten tantrum, is "If you're not happy, go back to your country of origin!" - and in broken English.

@mingyuhuang8944

3 жыл бұрын

Haha. Malaysian politicians are c grade quality compared to Singapore A+

@alliswell99199

2 жыл бұрын

@@mingyuhuang8944 agreed to dis ‘ dis ‘ agree

@firdausbj1

2 жыл бұрын

Malaysian people majority will vote for someone who is of the same race than someone with a good track record. In Singapore, the voters will vote for someone with a good track record of if the candidate is new, vote for the party with a good track record.

@sinnappanpablo

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha so true

@etphonehome6950

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Malaysian minister will scold them "fcuk you" ?

"I don't need an answer from you" 😎 Punchline was great 😂😂😂

@evolution8662

11 ай бұрын

Then why did he go such great lengths to give a detailed explanation.......

@croust1501

10 ай бұрын

@@evolution8662 Like you said, it's an explanation - not a question. So he didn't need an answer

This is the reason why I keep telling people acquiring the knowledge of a language/ accent don't make you intelligent....well spoken and gave a befitting reply to the snob.

@ddonlee

2 жыл бұрын

The ang mo would have been crushed and humiliated if it was LKY talking to him.

Wow... Mr. Shanmugam is incredibly cool headed... And savage too hahaha... Singapore is so lucky to have him as a minister. Show them who’s boss, Mr. Shanmugam!

@parnamsaini4751

2 жыл бұрын

Steve...bravo you mean?

@jamalludinibrahim1145

2 жыл бұрын

Stevie in Malaysia Boleh itself we do hv such a Character & outstanding Politician none other than Mohamed MatSaBo fm Amanah Party.

I'm a lawyer with over 15 years of practice and it seems to me that Facebook's representative was trying to steamroll Minister Shanmugham and derail his line of thought by agitating him. Mr. Shanmugham appeared well studied in the matter and handed it out to the representative with elan. Singapore - 1, Facebook - 0

@paintmemoria7641

2 жыл бұрын

U cannot forget that Mr Shanmugam was a brilliant lawyer before being appointed as a minister😉

@JohnAndJaneDoe65

2 жыл бұрын

He was a top litigator before entering into politics

@parnamsaini4751

2 жыл бұрын

Milner did not win...you mean?

@val-schaeffer1117

Жыл бұрын

Native speakers often try to bludgeon the non-native speakers with speed and flow of their speech, use of subtle underhanded phrases, or simply gaslight the opponent pointing out irrelevant, often false character flaws.

Facebook has been very very naughty and uncle Shanmugam is giving it lecture

BURRRNNNN. Absolute savagery. Mad respect.

Simon Milner, Policy Director, UK, Middle East and Africa, did FB not have a local representative to send in? The burn, it burns so bad...

@aikonoklas

3 жыл бұрын

he was appointed as vp for apac around the time of this proceeding

Do not mix up confidence and arrogance. Was Definitely arrogance from Mr Milner !!

Respect for Singaporean government. English is just a language not a knowledge. Doesn't mean what White people says always right.

@elonmusk4927

2 жыл бұрын

Eh guna apuneh idli sapude?

@lightyagami1752

Жыл бұрын

@@elonmusk4927 Eh you Cheena sucking white 🍌ah? 😂

Kudos to Mr Shanmugam. Proof that keeping fit and taking care of yourself keeps one's mind sharp regardless of your age

Facebook might have choose the wrong speaker for this meeting. Instead of making friends with the gov, they become enemy by making such bold statement with that tone towards the gov. They could make a better statement towards the gov and not end being hate by the people where it might become a crisis. It doesn't not make you small/humiliate by becoming a bit humble on the speech you going to make.

@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf

2 жыл бұрын

Well Facebook probably thought Singapore is a small market so they don't really care if they lose access to Singapore. I doubt they'll dare to do this to China, India, Indonesia, etc.

@markfish1113

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf yeah true, sg is only small market, at most sg govt block the website. The fact is US Congress won't regulate them.

@rnegoro1

2 жыл бұрын

There is no direct relevance between US parliamentary hearings vs Singapore parliamentary hearings honestly. You can draw conclusions, but confronting it directly isn't a good way to start a conversation. It's actually very offensive to grill FB like that.

@markfish1113

2 жыл бұрын

@@rnegoro1 In SG what can u do, i'm sure the witnesses are very pissed off by the grilling. Their agenda is to maintain SG as market yet don't offend government. The staff of fb, twitter, google are sent to do just that. If govt want to block their website, they are also fine. Small pie lost. Conclusion is they will not take down posts. Sham lost here I felt, looking at the final result now they are still operating freely in Singapore.

I still listen to the Minister's reply. Wow wow wow 👌 👏. He was to the point and when you look at his eyes, you can see how sharp and intelligent he is🙂👏🙏🙏🙏

Most impressive...!!! Even to watch it again after 3 years ...

I yearn for the day ministers and members of parliament of India exhibit the no-nonsense attitude that the Singaporean ministers and members of parliament exhibit.

We are indeed fortunate to have Mr Shanmugam looking after Singapore's interests.

Damn good reply to the ang moh. I'm so proud of my government

I think shanmugam bash him because this Milner started to talk in very rude way first, as if the panel is wasting his time

4:34 guy on the left of Milner: I'm f***ed.

@edwardgoeij

3 жыл бұрын

that guy.. is a minister in Singapore now

@victorymorningstar

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardgoeij the white guy is a minister? I said to his left.

@portmanamachi

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardgoeij . no wonder he looks familiar

LOVE IT SO MUCH!!! Aaaarrghh make annettlix show about this scene please

Excellent Take Down by MR K Shanmugam. Well done Singapore.

We Malaysia need people like this. Unfortunately it's at neighbors side. Good for you guys.

@jamalludinibrahim1145

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Nick, fortunately U do hv a calibre Politician likes Mohamed MatSabo very Charismatic ,& brilliant in speech Giver.

@thatone8085

Жыл бұрын

All the malays are also super intelligent and very hard working people 24/7. Plenty of queens counsel everywhere. In singapore only one lah. Malaysia really boleh .

@youtubet3e416

Жыл бұрын

We are Malaysians until you kicked us out.

@nicholasleong6003

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubet3e416 hahaha, to be accurate were. Not are. Actually i don't think it's only Malaysia kick Singapore out. I personally think that PM LKY also don't mind and wanted to be out. I have to say that personally i think PM LKY made the right choice. In the 90's i still remembered that i watched an advertisement in SG regarding about Fernleaf milk saying that they have 1mil cow same population as the Singaporean. Today SG have 5.45 mil which is already 1/6 of such a big Malaysia. Can imagine how much the economy growth in SG. Kudos!

@patrickkam7174

Ай бұрын

Too bad his skin color not qualified

Lived 2 years in Singapore. It's a great country if you can live by rules. They are very strict and that's what make the country extremely clean, safe and great. And they take privacy very seriously. Even they are so close to drug dominant country, but it's a drug free place. And Singaporean in general are very smart and hardworking people. My current boss is a Singaporean and he is awesome.

@erictan4583

6 жыл бұрын

Since you like so much, come apply for citizenship.

@dbiswas

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Tan Thank you Eric, but I took my citizenship for USA. But I definitely don’t mind working in Singapore as expatriate.

@carthicknarayan

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Tan they don’t give citizenship these days unless you got money or are from China

@rastalion6602

6 жыл бұрын

See the hypocrisy of foreigners, say the country is so great and benefited from the system and yet, choose to be under Uncle Sam roof.

@tgba89

6 жыл бұрын

DB hypocrite

The way Minister Shanmugam hits at Facebook personnel is too good. 😂😂 He hit him hard for his arrogance and irresponsibility.

@shielatee302

2 жыл бұрын

This piece of Nobody uses the services of FB to promote his political career n turned on them. This is what an ungrateful loser looks like. What does USA Parliamentary session got to do with Singapore??? Best part the one being questioned have no part in it. This is what a Witch Hunt looks like. I hate to use any term out of Trump Playbook. Seeing both Trump n this washed up Min San is cut from the same cloth. Why not!

Can we move on? I don't need an answer from you. That was a boss move.

Shutdown Meta & Facebook. Or impose a hands on direct monitoring on Facebook and all their executives. Let them taste their own medicine.

credits to chairman too who basically summarised everything for a start

Awesome! Minister Shanmugam! Applaud you being so objectively discussing an important issue!

Nicely grilled

Why are their jump cut edits throughout this video? What was removed?

Wow he dragged that facebook guy to the pits of hell and back.

@jameszhang9326

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. If the person is not able to clarify on his position, there could be some reasons as to why. Then, let's look at other aspects and historical records, which may speak on the conduct that the person carries himself or he is acting on behalf of (or with) a hidden, guised, or unspoken agenda.

omg... i dont need an answer from you.... damnn.....

I think it’s only fair that Singapore cancel Milner’s EP immediately.

Does anyone have a link to the whole discussion? I'd like to know whether the arrogant white guy finally answered the 'irrelevant' questions from the ministers, and what his responses are. Mr. Shanmugam was aboslutely correct in his reasoning here - we have to know how FB responded to inquiries made by other sovereign governments, if they ever responded at all. It shows how much FB is willing to go to cooperate with and be regulated by governments. And as Mr. Shanmugam said - it seems FB prefers to police itself the way it sees fit, rather than be subjected to government regulations.

"Can we move on?" Followed by "I don't need an answer from you." 😂 Mr. Milner didn't realise that wasn't a question from the minister. 😁

Well done !Minister Shanmugan,some peoplre are just so arrogan and rude that you really need to teach them a lesson,you have my support.

@timothysun1059

6 жыл бұрын

teach a lesson of what ?

@Fendy1

6 жыл бұрын

Agree - a lesson of what? Anyone can be arrogant or mince their words with others.

@momokom6630

6 жыл бұрын

Timothy Sun 一个内心阴暗的人是不会懂,的就没资格问,永远的没有资格。

@momokom6630

6 жыл бұрын

Fendy1 你问我干嘛,问你自己呀

@MrLolx2u

6 жыл бұрын

Siao ah? Teach everyone how to be rude? His answers to Milner was extremely rude. Professional but god damn fucking rude. He wants Milner to listen to him but when Milner wants to reply, he shuts him down. Now I know Facebook has a huge security breach but the word "Regulation" that Shanmugam used to me isn't right and extremely pushy. Facebook is Facebook. It's an OPEN platform where everyone can share whatever that's within the guidelines of the company's policy and if people are unhappy with the content, you can report and block the post but calling for a nation by nation regulation is just plain stupid and shows just how much monopolization and god damn downright cheap our government can be. Not that it's totally just ranting but if Milner wants to explain, let him do it. No need to shut him down with the final comment of "I don't need your replies". That's Shanmugam being disrespectful AND showed maximum arrogance towards Milner like "I know I have won so fuck off and keep that comment to yourself" like how Grace Fu did to Slyvia Lim during the GST "balloon" hike debate. Must this hearing go on? Sure. But must it be so disrespectful? No.

Man he was on fire 🔥🔥

How arrogant is Milner until Shanmugam put where he belong

More here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXt43M6xZ8bSqJc.html

Manhh ! He nailed it

Perhaps, in the event where there is not a legal obligation (or some standing injunctions), it is not really in the interest of Facebook to retract or take-down false information as it will reduce the overall quantity of the contents to its diversed users. Though some may argue that there is the ideology of the freedom of expression, it would still be much better that such freedom is not derived at the expense of another. Linking this to the context of Singapore, it is actually in Singapore's interest (let's brush aside politics for a while), to ensure that false information do no harm (or minimum disruption) to the society. Minister Shanmugan's stance has been very clear, and is in accordance with his long-kept belief, that in brief, the Singapore legal system is also designed to protect the more vulnerable ones within society. In an ever more intertwined world, the misuse or misrepresentation of information can more or less so certainly and eventually, lead to the accumulation of misconceptions or skewed perspectives. Based on US track records, it is seen that false information has and have polarised the societies, be it for the better or worse; but considering the (unique) history of Singapore, it is still likely better to reduce the polarisation in Singapore rather than to feed it. (For Singapore is a country that requires stable social cores to function well) However, considering that each side has their own interests to be preserved or fought for, there bound to be some frictions when clashed head on. The Facebook representative could be just well doing his job, and he could have been less confrontational.

@markfish1113

2 жыл бұрын

Mark Zuckerberg won't want to be regulated by the govt, the more take downs the less content and less successful business. Facebook is already dying mode.

Outstanding stuff. This was a war without weapons but with the words which are more dangerous

Owned. Shanmugam is amazing.

Anybody realised that the guy beside him is now our Minister of State Alvin Tan? Cool guy~

Wow sir, what a calm way to shun away the arrogant hypocrite behavior of a Facebook worker. Ending lines summarizes and shut the goonie Facebook worker. Brilliant.

when K shanmugan takes off his specs...you know u gon get grilled better than me during bbq

lol.. poor guy.. thoroughly got roasted.. 😂😂

Substance or no substance, it’s clear for all to see. Nothing but respect how he applied his knowledge to respond to him. No dodging and no rank pulling.

When the ghost decides to tickle the demon...

well said... different countries have different culture,n laws cannot b changed without fair justice...mr lky once said no justice no Singapore

MR K SHANMUGAM UR AMAZING WELL DONE!!!! WELL DONE!!!!👏👏👏👏👏

Imagine Malaysia PAS ministers are here.....conducting this session...

drop the mic shanmugam!

0.35s the moment Shanmugam decides to lay a smack down on Simon that he’ll never forget.

Wow!! Last part is interesting. “I done need an answer from you” 😀

I bet Mr Milner will not do rebuttal in such a disrespectful manner if it is at the British Parliament or US Congress? It is because his western superiority attitude towards the Asian has gotten the better of his behavior in this instance! 😅 The respectful and courteous behavior of Asian should not taken for granted by the Westerner to continue assuming their colonist attitude towards the Asian population by looking down and talking down on them.

Baldy is OWNED.

Woah.. we take no nonsense

He made an excellent point there.

omg...giant face slap...lol

Alvin Tan went from being on the panel to being a Minister.

Solid takedown by Shanmugham but Milner was not afraid to throw some big punches. Not all of it is in this video but the full debate is very interesting.

@reubensher8144

6 жыл бұрын

I thought it was hearing....didnt know it was a boxing match...

@sudhindrak

6 жыл бұрын

Reuben Sher Think you are probably right. Pity I did not realize.

@runthomas

6 жыл бұрын

it was a hearing until milner decided that he was going to run it his way..then it became a boxing match, and it was too late by teh time he realised he was in the ring with MIKE TYSON.

Mr Shanmugam...Bravo!🤩👏👍

Damn Got Dissected Upside down by Uncle Shanmugam

Wow compare this to the TikTok questioning and there's a large difference. Anyone here watching this after the TikTok questioning?

Wow pls come to tamil nadu shanmugam ayya

Don’t challenge the Law Minister......you lose...... Best part.......at the end.......I don’t need an answer from you.........lolo.......👍🏽👍🏽👍🏻

salute mr shanmugam, your level of patience facing this man is absolute marvelous..

Facebook is going downhill and they are too proud to see that..

"Can we move on?" (Moves the mic) **That was a rhetorical question**

The ending tho😂😂😂😂

respectfully suggests *cuts every conversation*

Well handled 👏

Chairman : You wanna say something… 🤣🤣🤣

@jabezalantan6357

2 жыл бұрын

There is only one really intelligent one there

Perfection..

Shanmugam is doing an excellent job. He does not allow an angmo to dictate the terms in this debate.

@TheSchmukk

6 жыл бұрын

If you watched the whole hearing, not just this short snippet, you'd see that Milner actually makes very good and earnest points. Shanmugam, understandably, is trying to apply pressure to force a slip up by Milner to admit guilt and to cast doubt on his current & previous testament. Clearly his training in litigation. He demanded "yes/no" responses to questions that were clearly very, very nuanced. Basically either a "yes" or "no" by Milner would have been detrimental to Milner's cause, since the situation was not as simple as a "yes/no". I have a tendency to side with Shanmugam, but after 3 hours of this non stop? Milner did a fantastic job in defending his own, and is on par or arguably better than Shanmugam. Even Shanmugam conceded that several times.

@ryukenjo

6 жыл бұрын

Yes. There is no doubt Milner had put up a very good defense to the questions posed by Shanmugan. Yes there are indeed nuances involved; be it from a technical, personal, cultural, business or even political perspective. I believe most of us too had digested the rest of the online video materials available on this saga. However, it does not rule off the obligations and duties of FB and their partners, stated or otherwise; a giant global online social platform that profits billions of dollars off human data. Apart from the willing participation of its worldwide users who feverishly utilize their platform for trivial purposes, there are some that does so with other covert intents that may seek to disrupt the public order of the civilized world. Hence, based on past performances and illustrations of statements given on other occasion and venue, it is natural for people of authority to start off this hearing with due diligent knowledge of prior said factors, to remind large corporations and their minions, that they too, are subjected to public duty and scrutiny of the country which they choose to operate in. To put it bluntly, once a company, or individual, arrives to a certain size of influence, economic prowess, or other positions of power, please exercise appropriate CSR and apply good internal governance to the business in question. In this specific case, although different governments of different countries can have a separate agenda with FB in mind, the position of our government is to prevent FB's potential of allowing our society to fall apart through their presence. There are just too many examples of such in some parts of this world, where social media, especially FB, are utilized to overturn societies by arousing collective dissent through their platform. Just google the infamous Arab Springs. FB, along with their representatives and partners, are grilled on various related sessions, to allow everyone a glimpse of how global corporate oligarchies react on record. You do witness how Milner's seek to cautiously thread along the questions, where he was observed to be evading personal liabilities although he was called upon as a representative. This blurred sense of obligations happens when personal and corporate interests are not aligned, hence Milner's mention, on 'hindsight' several times during his statement. With that, although FB and partners are presented as private entities and not private individual, the stress to emphasis on their collective duty to the public is reinforced, not extinguished, although Milner may draw personal sympathies as a private individual from this hearing with our panel. Besides, they are still operating with no restrictions here. With that in mind, our judicial representatives reminded FB and partners, that they must not be operating without account to stakeholders anywhere, especially SG, as their platform has the unique ability to affect a larger sphere of theatrics in the world of politics, economy and social activities. For now, we can either view Shanmugam's performance as a political representation, or, an individual representing a nation, who serves to lead as a brute reminder to corporate globalist, that we are not your herds. I am no one's sheep but I applaud Shanmugan and the panel's effort to put questionable globalists' conduct in place. No government is perfect. No human is perfect. But the intent to guard and protect the SG people and the way of life here is pretty obvious. Please do not misplace your sympathies. It is only too tempting. I worry for our people's ability to discern and stay sovereign amidst all these tug of war emotional games that is getting out of hand. One can only imagine how messy SG will be when real upheaval happens on our land with our current mix of minds and hearts.

@rgseven6557

6 жыл бұрын

Wow that is so cool. Just because Mr Shanmugam is a south indian, you decided to credit the entire community for their "pride in their education & ethics". Nice

@markfish1113

2 жыл бұрын

@@rgseven6557 lol milner is just a 200k staff on vp level in facebook, hired by zuckerberg to defend the company. The questions only his boss can answer. But no, mark zuckerberg wants to be good guy.

why does the video seem edited, like cut and paste together when Minister K is speaking

This Min San is an embarrassment to us Singaporeans. This is just A Bully at play.

Will singapore opposition party be allowed to question the PAP in this same manner?

@bnwk5

6 жыл бұрын

Charles Howe heard of parliamentary debates?

@bnwk5

6 жыл бұрын

Ye Hang Yeo childish

@daniel061208

6 жыл бұрын

@Charles Howe. They do. Pls watch Channel 5 for parliamentary debates. Both WP and PAP engage in constructive dialogue. I'm yet to find one instance where the ruling PAP was found wanting in answers.

@daniel061208

6 жыл бұрын

@ Ye Hang If you live in an imaginary utopia, then stay there in your own fool's paradise. We live in the real world!! I have not seen a more erudite, visionary and honest cabinet of ministers anywhere in the world, as I saw in SG. FYI I have lived in at least 4 countries for a period of 2 years or longer. UK and Canada while one could concede, they have proportional representation in the parliament with opposing views, the politics is so bitter and negative its only counterproductive. Democracy is not about popular debates that get TRPs for TV channels. Democracy is all about actual work on the ground for Citizenry. Show me one country that readily gives away an Ang-bao in the form of subsidized flats worth 100K S$ to every citizen. IF you can't be grateful and positive, at least step aside and stop making uninformed judgments.

@daniel061208

6 жыл бұрын

@Ye Heng, Congratulations on the 100K S$ Ang Bao. Thanks to Mr. LKY's vision. You might very well experienced Singapore politics closely compared to me. But then that is just an insider's perspective. I have lived in 4 different countries and an active follower of Politics both domestic and International. As a Singaporean, you might have demands from the Govt that are met or unmet and by all means raise them. But have a sense of proportion with what's happening in the rest of the world. For all your complaints and qualms you and I know you won't even move to Johor for crying out loud. Now coming to Parliamentary conduct and the specific speech you are referring to, this is not even newsworthy in rest of the world.

Milner sound so cocky.

School is session boss !!!!

In S’pore respect our law n order unless U have a good argument on the issue

that's a good

Facebook should just stopped attending this sg forum

This guys knows the meaning of "roasted" quite well, i assume. Don't mess with the local goverment!

Minister Shanmugam: ‘Can we move on?’ Milner: Pulls mic towards himself Minister Shanmugam: ‘I don’t need an answer from you.’ Milner: Pushes mic away 🤣🤣🤣

Fb deserves such humiliation.. guess nobody saw that violent put-down coming!

BIG OOFFF

Play with any country any race any people but u can't face a true Thamizan.. hats off Mr.Shanmugam .. geth panitinga sir ..

i love mr shanmugam.. Long Live PAP!

I just realized they edited out all the small pauses made by Minister Shanmugam when he was talking, he spoke much more slowly in the unedited clip

@juncchiramen517

2 жыл бұрын

Can you provide a link to it, of course only if you want to.

Our government is doing a good job. Do we want an outsider to come into your house and want to owned the house rules based on their terms.

Wow 😲

You can tell very well if a person is in denial - written all over the face and body. Show, not tell.

👌👌

Way to go, Mr Shanmugham 😎

Yeah! Thats how you ground an arrogant Englishman. Shame on you Facebook for even having him represent them. Good job, Ministe!