Why is Shanmugam so defensive and confrontational to a simple and logical question from Mr Leong?

@BeachBoi1000

5 ай бұрын

What is Mr Leong asking?

People get bullied everyday at work place, even in parliament

@diesopain260

5 ай бұрын

And you don’t see them suicide. Clearly the deceased has personal problems.

@abirames8925

5 ай бұрын

Best comment ever.

@tonykiang9052

5 ай бұрын

The way he responds to LMW sounds like he's 'bullying' him.. Keep up the good work LMW

@user-hj1zj2fr8r

5 ай бұрын

​@@tonykiang9052the way Leong asked seems to ve bullying the entire police force. I am convinced all home team employee and Mgmt level will and must vote against LMW. We vote against him. The votes shall force Lmw to become the person and talk the way we voters want him to be. We control him. Not he control us. It's us vs him.

@tonykiang9052

5 ай бұрын

BS lackey

Ownself investigates Ownself... They all learn the 'right way'

How come Mr Leong asked in polite way while Mr Shan respond in a way it sounded more defensive?

@parnamsaini4751

5 ай бұрын

Really?

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

That’s Why they Paid Obscenely … To Turn Inquisitorial Matters into Adversarial Matters …

@dwahia

5 ай бұрын

It's typical of him arrogance

@2bystander2

5 ай бұрын

this itself is a form of intimidation & bullying

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

Reason is They Paid Obscenely to Turn Inquisitorial Matters into Adversarial … in this Case , Posthumously also 😊

One of the most or the most arrogant in parliament. Sickening

Too defensive n arrogant. Did not initially answer the question!!! Wayang n wayang! LMW good response n putting the interest of public confidence. LMW please continue with your persistence n don't let these guys in charge feel their answer is final. Good effort PSP. PRESS ON! I FULLY SUPPORT YOUR QUESTION !!!!!

Look like leong is the only opposition in the parliament. The rest r Fake

@user-jt2wr4pv6p

5 ай бұрын

PSP is just putting a show as the party is wicked and evil.

@deschan2246

5 ай бұрын

@@user-jt2wr4pv6p when u ditched yr country?

I think Mr Leong has done his best in asking questions for a deceased officer who died in his uniform. Glad that he become a voice for someone who is no longer in this world.

Deepest condolences to the family. Bullying has no place in a beautiful country like Singapore.

In this case, Mr Leong seems to be just asking what a lot of Singaporeans would be asking in their minds when it is stated that 'for the very serious case of the police officer who committed suicide and left a message complaining about other police officers, the police force had conducted an investigation'. I would say most people would immediately and naturally think 'why not ask another party to conduct the investigation?', so it is very appropriate that an MP should voice it out for the people.

@user-hj1zj2fr8r

5 ай бұрын

No. A lot a lot of Singaporean I talked to doesn't ask what Lmw ask. I had asked around. Please don't lie.

@leexianlong6855

5 ай бұрын

Do not trust PAP. Do not vote PAP.

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

To Simplify… It’s a Whistleblower Case … The Whistleblower just happens to be a Junior Rank Police Officer who suddenly Died After Making Serious Allegations of Police Misconduct, Bullying, Racial Discrimination etc … So essentially how can Police Possibly Now Investigate a Matter that they’ve Failed to do in Whistleblower’s Lifetime?

@lily19855

5 ай бұрын

We don't ask, don't be silly , at end of the day even minister also kana after investigate by CIB which under Mr lee, so when come to police force you think someone going to be safe if they cause the sucide?, what is the benefits for gov to cover them, isn't it digging hole for no reason after gov approve cib to investigate own minster, nobody is safe, nor corrupt neither those that did not conduct duty appropriately. The methodology would have it reasoning behind it(only waste time and resources to probe thing when there good track record and no clear evidence there corruption involved in the investigation) , beside shamugan give it reasoning , did you acknowledge it? People believe what they want to believe, lmw know, that why he keep probing everything, that simple, let opposition investigate? Yeah definitely no chance that opposition will take it as opportunities to drag and keep probing for sake of probing right, definitely will help police trust , imagine the crime rate of Singapore is low , yet every case opposition investigate, definitely it won't look worse that it is and demoralise the police force, like during COVID despite singapore being denser and more prone to covid due to being high foreigner transit country, yet mortality rate is lower compare to lots of country, the opposition definitely didn't keep probing right where it jeopardize the morale of those healthcare worker risking their life? Definitely opposition is not opportunist, even when gov is doing well right?

@user-mr5ht7qk8i

Ай бұрын

​@@lily19855 Say it in good English.I can't understand accurately what u r saying.

Why is the Law Minister so defensive when all Mr Leong asked was to understand a bit more about the Ministry’s thought process? Is there a need to be combative all the time in parliament? Would that help to bring about healthy debates?

@Dollarrmb-pk6ub

5 ай бұрын

It is because Mr Leong did not READ and understand the FACTS of the case. He can always get the full reports first from the minister

@Diderot68

5 ай бұрын

@@Dollarrmb-pk6ubDo we expect Mr Leong and all citizens to read, listen, understand and then shut up? Is it asking too much for our ministers to clarify when it is sought? Are our ministers above the Q&As? Always remember that MPs represent the people.

@CalvinK-the_old_fogey

5 ай бұрын

@@Diderot68 Sometimes we got to face the reality and be a responsible citizen. Don’t be gullible because time is wasted for Shanmugam to redo his explanation. Clearly Leong Mun Wai wasted Parliament time with his pointless questions because at the end of the hearing, he made a U-turn. It is only the gullible who didn’t pick that up.

@Diderot68

5 ай бұрын

@@CalvinK-the_old_fogeyYou sound like a minister who knows all and has no time for anyone. Why then the need for a parliamentary sitting? Let Mr Leong ask his questions and let the public decide if he had wasted anyone’s precious time. I am sure time has been allocated for it.

@CalvinK-the_old_fogey

5 ай бұрын

@@Diderot68 what if the explanation has been given already? If a member of the public is unaware it’s still OK but a Member of Parliament? What if an MP asked why Tan Chuan-jin resigned? You never listen to Shanmugam’s reply in its entirety that’s why you didn’t realise he gave a repeat explanation and that Leong MW made a U-turn and sheepishly accepted the explanation. Please ask yourself if this is not a waste of time? Time that is better given to other people’s welfare. Better be a responsible citizen and don’t gullibly accept a ‘combative argument’ blindly. That’s as good as being scammed.

Many might has seen bullying but just ignored it, and the worst si that some might has responded to it by joining in, by laughing or keeping silent...

@rbc812

5 ай бұрын

Bullies are everywhere, children should be taught to voice out.

A lack of transparency is not going to improve public confidence in the police force.

@ipanmei3380

5 ай бұрын

Nice try. This is not the West, or even Malaysia. The SPF is a decent force, and the public knows.

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

SPF is a Malfunctioning Extension of PAP … For Starters, Police cannot Investigate Police , let alone if Victim not only made Serious Allegations but is also Died suddenly

@DuDerize

5 ай бұрын

@@ipanmei3380 Have you seen a beautiful garden? There are worms and maggots on the ground.

@batman30351

5 ай бұрын

​@@ipanmei3380ask any spf officer and they will tell you that a huge amount of them resigned in the past 3 years. they can barely maintain daily operations.

@leexianlong6855

5 ай бұрын

This may be a Chinese problem. Too many of anything is never good.

Mr Leong just got bullied in parliament again.

COI provides a platform of transparency. Morale of an organisation is secondary and can be managed.

Mr Leong asks a valid question but why does the Minister find it necessary to take a dig on him?

@user-uw1br3cr8d

5 ай бұрын

Exactly.

Singapore is getting "corrupted" in that sense. Workplace bullying seems "allowable" even in gov sector. Office politics was rampant. I remembered when i was a teacher, my subject head and HOD ganged up to bully. They would purposely bad mouthed me in front of other teachers, HODs and students. Even coerced students to go against me. Even P.E. teachers think they were kings, they could bully regular teachers and even sometimes even bully the about to retire waiting for pension Principal. During that time, about 5 teachers from the same department quit at the start of school term. ANother teacher from another department even engaged a lawyer to sue his own subject head. The subject head bad mouthed him. My friend from another school was also bullied by his HODs. He did not even make it to probation year. In terms of competency, he was one notch higher. He was from Sg top school.

@user-uw1br3cr8d

5 ай бұрын

This happens in a very stressed society. Bullying is one way for the bullier to destress.It happens at workplaces. There must be an avenue for complainant to take up the matter to redress. Therefore, an independent panel of inquiry must be formed to show transparency and neutrality. The victim wants to seek justice at the end of the day.

But the situation in Singapore is very much different from that in UK. So the holding of an internal inquiry could be misconstrued as an attempt to avoid an erosion of the image.

@ReleaseYourHandbrake

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! What has it to do with UK?!

He is trying to find the right words; his expression and his hand gesture speaks all.

Not a fan of Mr. Leong but he did ask a question of interest politely. As a minister, throwing data and numbers here is unnecessary. Why so aggressive.

Bullying and back is rampant in spf

I lol'd when he said 90% of singaporeans have trust in the police force @3:32 Where'd he get those stats from? 😂

The Minister of Law should surely be able to know the difference between an allegation and a fact? The reason why the confidence of the people of the UK or USA has eroded us precisely because of lack of transparency and accountability! It’s not because of allegations! A person has killed themself and stated the reasons as to why. Surely he should be at least honoured with the decency of a proper investigation. No one is accusing the SPF. Shanmugam is inadvertently admitting that it’s best to not let an outside neutral party go asking questions because we’re not going to like the answers. Shameful.

@desdesdes123

5 ай бұрын

I think you misunderstood Minister's explanation. His explanation is that by putting officers through many COIs, it not only puts undue stress on the officers (when the facts of the case have not even been assessed yet), but it erodes the public confidence in the force. LMW himself agreed with the findings which means he finds the findings of the case sufficiently transparent. And not having a COI does not mean that the investigation was not transparent. If lets say the internal investigation concludes that there might be some form of discrimination happening, I'm sure a COI will be formed to investigate (just like how CPIB investigated Iswaran before he was arrested and put to trial). Need to look at the big picture and consider all factors holistically, not just suka suka form COI to investigate which is using taxpayers money and resource.

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

Shan is effectively Admitting in Parliament that a COI may be Counter Productive to SPF’s Morale & Recruitment Efforts … its an Open Admission that SPF cannot be scrutinised in name of Public Trust & Public Interest 😊

@desdesdes123

5 ай бұрын

@@Hs5687 i dont think Shan was saying no to any COIs. His point was to have COIs only when deemed necessary, and not to have COI to investigate everything. If COIs were formed after every allegations of discrimination (can turn out to be truth or lie), then police force no need to work liao.

@Hs5687

5 ай бұрын

@@desdesdes123 Well his Timing is Perfect 😊 … On one hand Bills Passed for more Police Powers & Now new Lows for SPF Accountability… I sometimes find this Ownself Check Ownself Circus Entertaining 👏👏👏

@shermanlo1880

5 ай бұрын

@@desdesdes123Finally, someone who is able to understand the minister’s speech and not blatantly outright disagreeing with them just because they think it’s popular to disagree with the govt.

Mr Shanmugam’s tone of voice with his parliamentarian colleagues is a matter of concern. Rude, very rude.

Shanmugam's response is full of non sequiturs. It is precisely because the allegations raised questions about the leadership of the police force that the public is going to prefer an investigation conducted by an unbiased third party over one conducted by the police leadership. Shanmugam would do well to remember that the police exists to serve the public, not the other way round. If you have to choose between public trust or "police morale" it is obvious that public trust must come first.

@SpecJack15

5 ай бұрын

As a former Police Cantonment officer, I agree with your sentiments. If Minister Shan really has our public interest in mind, he would at the very least be open to a neutral, third-party investigation instead of IAD conducting it.

@mljh11

5 ай бұрын

@@SpecJack15 Exactly, thank you for speaking up. I respect all the hard work that our police officers go through, but I'm left wondering why Shanmugam is more concerned about the morale of police leadership instead of the morale of the rank and file officers who might be facing difficulties dealing with bad bosses or discriminatory colleagues in the workplace.

@flowertowerrr

5 ай бұрын

As a former police member myself, I would recommend you to watch the entire discussion instead of the snippets here and there. As the minister AND LMW have said, the facts are not in dispute. Please enlighten us how a COI would help.

@mljh11

5 ай бұрын

@@flowertowerrr I did watch the entire thing. You may be missing my point if you think I'm suggesting that a COI's investigation will uncover more facts than one conducted internally. My point is that Shanmugam is theatrically bringing up a completely irrelevant issue - i.e. the morale of the police leadership falling due to being subject to external investigation - to distract from Leong's question. I base my opinion on the following idea: from the perspective of the public as well as rank and file members of an organization, an investigation by an external, independent third party will always be perceived as more fair / transparent / truthful than one conducted by the organization's own leadership, _especially if the issue being investigated concerns systemic problems in the organization and potential coverups by leadership itself._ I don't think any rational person would disagree with this idea; for reference, recall the issues of training deaths in the SAF or hazing rituals in the SCDF in recent years and what the public discourse of those topics were like. Thus, if we are to address in good faith Shanmugam's assertion that "morale of police leadership" is a reason why a third party investigation should not be preferred (although I truly think he is just using a red herring by bringing up morale and trying to intimidate Leong with his aggressive tone), then my counterpoint as per my previous comments is that, no, actually 1) public trust in the police and 2) morale of the rank and file officers would be improved by having the investigation be done by a COI instead; and these two factors are easily more important to society's wellbeing than just the morale of the police leadership alone. Hope this clarifies.

@flowertowerrr

5 ай бұрын

@@mljh11 wait, so you think that a COI won't bring up new facts, and you still want to do it because a third party can restore confidence of the public and increase morale of the police? You are advocating for a wayang performance you know right?

Thank you for asking the hard questions

Ownself check ownself- what a sham!

I totally agree with you, Mr. Leong as someone life is taken. Normally why go through all the process and that they are doing all the while. As someone else life is at stake is not general. Conduct a COI period

LMW questions are completely relevant & justifiable. Why must Shan be dismissive & defensive. This is crazy!!!

@nickgoh8947

5 ай бұрын

Maybe there is too much 'Mud'' & brownies in the police force unit, that the dead Chinese police were being ostracized and bullied till death literally

@2bystander2

5 ай бұрын

have we ever done a public poll on the trust of Singaporeans on our police force?? can't remember

@gordonblue3491

5 ай бұрын

They poll their own police officers who trust themselves 😂

Best to have a COI if the government wants to assure all its citizens there is fairness in the justice system.

Human being are complicated but if someone are at the edge to commit suicide it only means what he says is 100% truth … If the punishable acts are not properly dealt with , part of our citizens beliefs will be shaken and thus the party will definitely lose vote and collapse … Under lee Kuan yew time , I strongly believe he would do with a committee to ensure impartiality and push for justice What I post is on my total belief and does not constitute to the truth as I remember how Mr lee Kuan yew dealt with Wong Gan Seng for mas Selamat case which there were no live lost … and now a live is lost but the justice to some of us are not served properly

So if one have many internal investigations, will all details be made public, in the name of transparentcy?

Thanks Mr Leong for asking the uncomfortable (but very necessary) questions and pursuing a properly followup.. In any case, the minister should stop replying from his ivory tower and reply in a less adversarial manner.. Just as Mr Leong has done so.

@user-uw1br3cr8d

5 ай бұрын

Condescending attitude. its like a cross examining in Court. MP made a simple suggestion for an independent inquiry to demonstrate transparency and neutrality.UK example is not the best guide.

@CalvinK-the_old_fogey

5 ай бұрын

Sometimes we got to face the reality and stop being gullible. Ask yourself why only Mr Leong spoke up while all other Opposition members are quiet? Because Shanmugam had given his explanations at an earlier Parliament session. So when Leong Mun Wai asked those questions again, Shan got no choice but repeat again wasting everybody’s time. It was totally pointless because at the end of the hearing, Leong MW made a U-turn and agreed with Shan’s explanation. It is only the gullible who didn’t pick that up. Do you want to have a pointless Opposition MP?

@foray3573

5 ай бұрын

@@CalvinK-the_old_fogey thats not true lol. it could also mean that the answer he provided during the session earlier was unsatisfactory. Not wrong to ask again. Sham was just annoyed and angst

@foray3573

5 ай бұрын

@@CalvinK-the_old_fogey Also mentioning the severity of the case rather than some random allegation made.

@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG

5 ай бұрын

@@CalvinK-the_old_fogey LOL.. IBs spotted.. Definitely triggered by the RIGHT questions asked by Mr Leong.

Why is he talking about the impact on the number of people wanting to join the police force? How is that relevant here? Also if we base everything on trust, we do not need auditors anymore

Why always Mr Leong has the courage to speak up instead of the opposition who were sitting there always kept quiet!!?

@user-uw1br3cr8d

5 ай бұрын

This will recur if there is no formidable opposition members in Parliament.

@CalvinK-the_old_fogey

5 ай бұрын

Sometimes we got to face the reality and ask “is it only Mr Leong is the genuine Opposition and all other Opposition members are useless?” Or the other way around ? So don’t be gullible and thinks you only need “courage to speak up”. Why don’t you ask for “intelligence in his questioning?” Clearly Leong Mun Wai asked pointless questions because at the end of the hearing, he made a U-turn and it is only the gullible who didn’t pick that up.

Shanmugam not answering the question😩

Just a question of curiosity: Who is the authority, Prime Minister or the Minister-in-concern, to decide whether a COI should be convened for a case that happened under the watch of the Minister-in-concern? The authority who hold the decision power should be the one answering the question in parliament on why he did not approve the setup of COI on the specific case in question. And 2nd question: Who should be the right and appropriate authority to decide on whether a COI should be convened for a case that happened under the watch of the Minister-in-concern? The Prime Minister or the Minister-in-concern?

The belligerence seems to be on the side of the Minister when his tone and demeanour appeared disproportionate to that of his questioner. Impression is everything. When there is allegation of wrongdoing by members of an organisation, it will always appear dodgy when the same organisation does the investigating. The public will question if there is any conflict of interest.

Mr leong is right on this issue.

Asking the right questions in a survey brings about the real truth on how the people feel within the society. If the questions are leaning towards Trusting the Government, the results would bring about that results. The reason Why UK has high distrust in their Government because it’s a real democratic society with real questions posed to the society to get the real “hard truth” answers. In a sensitive situation like this, I agree that an external committee should lead the investigation unless there’s something to hide…

In all garmen sector, the higher ups always dictate what should be done. This is ownself check ownself downfall. Have u all notice, the corruption cases were mostly the higher ups?

Its not a good sign to use another country as a battering ram when u dont look at yourself in the mirror..

Please do not play with the security of Singapore. Don’t play politics with it. Protect Singapore.

@GYang4030

5 ай бұрын

How to protect Singapore when you get lousy, partial ministers and their subordinates helming the judicial system? All more interested to cover their bums. Dead man tell no tales. Now putting blame on the unfortunate victim. All our lawyers brains are full of MUSH.

Questions unanswered.

This minister has too much power or is given too much or is perceived to have too much.

Not sure where the 90% trust in the police force come from. I'm pretty sure I wasn't asked.

Petty of shanmugam to try to divert by asking whether leong was in chambers.

Disgraceful reply Accused carrying out investigation Mockery of whole system

The minister have lost it making relevant speech and stupidly make reference to other countries as prove the govt have being complacent and lost control of the security force. He is absurd replying a simple question with a barrage of stupid question. The leadership credibility and capability is in question.

'Ownself check ownself' is a virtue, S'pore in trouble if Govt can't ensure public accountability: Ong Ye Kung 😁

I believe the words of the deceased. Because i experienced the same while undergoing National Service. It is very common.

Why Shanmugam so defensive and rude

@nickgoh8947

5 ай бұрын

He got something to hide ?

@2bystander2

5 ай бұрын

just his superiority complex playing out

@GYang4030

5 ай бұрын

Skeletons coming out from the closet ..... 😂

Mr minister... This isn't a court

Workplace bullying from superiors are a serious problem in Singapore especially amongst the uniform Groups. Many such bullies hide behind the word “poor Work performance” during appraisals to penalise their targeted victims. And these are including those of ST Engineering Group of companies.

We don't have to follow the UK police system. If the Singapore Police System is clean and above board, our minister in charge shouldn't worry about the request by MP Leong for COI for this special case.

Hope voices and suggestions are consider carefully. New or old.

I asked again why this is not investigated by independent party? Anyway I thought SPF personnels have to go through yearly pshycological profiling?

Always never answer to a question. That's why there are more questions . . Lah

Lack of transparency in Police force, sweep under the carpet. Acting God has spoken. JUSTICE MUST BE SEEN TO BE DONE!

Is correct for Mr Leong to rise up his question...of cos the whole world wanted to knw abt the investigation results ...how can inside settlement only ??? Is a serious matter

Hope he does not resign or step down in the next GE.

@nickgoh8947

5 ай бұрын

He is already getting ready to live his wonderful life behind his high-walled Castle in Ridout, with his vast fortune and laughing at Sinkies ....

That question is designed to have a yes or no answer. Minister, listen to the question first.

Aiyo, minister speak modestly la Not aggressively

Reasonable question. Parties handled emotions well.

It's not that we do not trust the Singapore police force. Personally I trust them 100%. HOWEVER, I believe that when an allegation has been made, it should be investigated by a third party as there might be a chance that "ownself check ownself" and closed case

Even police officer also knows that IMH is hell.

It's very saddening

Hypocritical law minister 👎

Law minister is very arrogant. He doesn't feel like he should explain anything to anyone. It's almost like he's above the law. And that's very dangerous. I live in yishun and has never, will never vote for pap as long as he's around. Guys like LMW deserve our support.

precisely that we all are speculating now that what causes the 200+ days unpaid leaves if these got nothing to do with the suicide ? hence, half facts of the incident actually lead to speculating at large.

LMW is improving each sitting, congratulation to LMW n PSP

Admission that COI can backfire on SPF & Government… hilarious 😂😂😂

I've been bullied by the police and a regime of moral failures since 11.4.18. So what about my tragedy of being denied access to law and due process.? Should my case be heard in the court of law, then Mr Shanmugam would know how all the facts would look like.

Should bring this to family court instead of parliament. Parliament should address more on National Issues and debate on policies to be carried out to the public. ie Trade, International Laws, Energy, Global Finance, Investment, Marine Time, Global IMPACTS etc.

Where is Anziar? Haha

best to not answer is to ask a question in return hahaha

Shanmugam lost it

Debate objectively, not subjectively.

Maybe COI will revelead the system, the structure or the truth what is happening within SPF. This worries many top SPF bossess or even their minister

Having a task force from Police force and CPIB to investigate can help and enforce trust from the public that Singapore Police force is taking serious on this allegations. Therefore more people will look at Singapore Police force in away that Singapore Police Forces take everyone of their officer life seriously. Everyone who are seriously thinking of joining the police force can feel safe.

Officer stress then sucide due to Singapore work culture

He is repeating the number of leaves and most of the time. He is supporing and defending the police force. He reviewed them himself? Huh???

The British police's main duty today is to protect themselves first before the public, thanks to the countless COIs. Sometimes it's amazing what our frogs in the well ask for (minimum wage, COIs, free healthcare etc) when it has clearly failed in ang mo countries. Damn lazy to think of novel solutions.

Even if the is a COI Singapore will still support our fellow man who is safe guarding our island but of cause we wan transparency, so jus gif us transparency if u are sure abt the finding there is nth to be afraid of. If u fear morale and all then do something to motivate them, prove us so we can gain more confidence in ppl who are managing the guys on the ground

River Valley incident and etc means our society have changed.

Hope this matter won't happened anymore

For once I agreed with law minister if not sure all the police regular will quit if they keep being investigated due to word of mouth and allegations

I believe UK is following their procedural practices that inquiry is held in every instance. We have trust in SPF but that does not mean even major cases that involve the death of a police officer did not merit an inquiry but just an internal inquiry only.

Stop using other countries as excuses. The lack of transparency and this defensive attitude will only cause more distrust towards the spf

Always compare with others country why not compare the minister salary with others country 😊

UK not all about justice, its all about compensation. If compensation settled privately, not enough ... straight away go via opposition to ask for Public Enquiry. Until Gahman backdown and pay up. Justice = Compensation in modern society.

To me Shanmugam explanations are just some slip slopping excuses … Committee of inquiry will show that our government is impartial and internal left to right pocket is just covering up.. As police officers they will understand if they are not wrong but instead internal investigation to me is just fears of being exposed and also the trust of his own ministry is not there … (my opinions only) It is only in my own opinion as I am an experienced businessman who lead quite a team not only in Singapore but also overseas …

@ongernie7216

5 ай бұрын

That's the trouble with our army. To much covering up. So our civil servant need to be cover up tp operate.

but we cannot follow some countries that take no action whatever the police does, do and did?

Love and respect Mr Leong. The only one who truly cares about Singaporeans.

Mr Leong why always like that opposing for the sake of opposing but not logical.

Singapore is at Global Stage we are no longer a small tiny dot cant afford to address issues which are not of global impact.

Recently my nephew in NS experienced one of the officers calling another recruit 'eczema boy'. My question is what policies are currently in place in these organisations to combat bullying culture?

So passive aggressive

@nickgoh8947

5 ай бұрын

in the name of protecting his integrity, if any

@GYang4030

5 ай бұрын

​@@nickgoh8947He got integrity meh?😊

Hey come on lah Mr Indian minister. Don't tell me you have never been bullied before? Ohya, sorry, you family must be super rich. Why compare Singapore police with UK police force?

8:23 "considerable trouble" ... hmmmmm