MiniDSP SHD Power: 2 x 120 watt amp with Dirac room correction and streamer

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My first experiences with this brand was with the MiniDSP SHD Studio. A digital pre-amp and streamer that also does Dirac room correction. The SHD Power on review here is about the same but with a powerful amp added, costing only 1,499 US dollar ex sales tax.
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  • @IAmThankfulToday
    @IAmThankfulToday4 жыл бұрын

    Hans is back. Yeah! - And reviewing a product I expected him to review this summer. Not sure if I’ve got a ESP or if he’s just predictable but either way he knows to give us great content featuring the products we’re interested in. Thank you Hans. Hope you had a great vacation.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir. And I did have a nice vacation 👍🏻

  • @bolton368
    @bolton3684 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you back

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Love to be back.

  • @alext2933
    @alext29334 жыл бұрын

    Excellent content as usual Hans. Thanks.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @stephencosta6814
    @stephencosta68144 жыл бұрын

    Very nice product and review good to see you Hans

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏽

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick69284 жыл бұрын

    Sure did miss you Hans! Hope you had a wonderful holiday! See you next week.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was great. Fully reloaded for another season.

  • @bioscalar
    @bioscalar4 жыл бұрын

    Another very useful review. Thanks.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏽

  • @paznewis107
    @paznewis1074 жыл бұрын

    Hey Hanz, missed you. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😺🐙

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to be back 😀

  • @donnienathan7821
    @donnienathan78213 жыл бұрын

    Great review, thanks for your education.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @donnienathan7821

    @donnienathan7821

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I want to do some room correction and bass management for my home theater, but I'm no expert or audio engineer. Can you recommend a product that will be simple to use for my 7.1.2 system? I'm hoping for it to be as simple as installing software, taking measurements and then the software making the adjustments or suggestions needed. Thanks for your help

  • @shobhitmathur5686
    @shobhitmathur56864 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back. I have a minidsp 2x4hd. I love it. The DAC could be better I feel. A question though. Would replacing it with a Minidsp Nano Digi + External DAC be a better option or getting the Dirac plug in for the 2x4hd be a better option?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably but I have not tried this.

  • @bobc455
    @bobc4554 жыл бұрын

    I have the poor man’s version of this - a MiniDSP DDRC-24 with an NAD 3020. Even with my less sophisticated system, the sound is TrueType stunning. I understand people who prefer to use room treatments, however now that I’ve had Dirac 3.0 I can never imagine myself owning a system without it. There is no going back- Dirac 3.0 is simply unbelievable.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree completely!

  • @cruise2023

    @cruise2023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Funny, Paul from PS Audio says yes to home theatre and definitely NO to 2 channel system.

  • @martinames5989
    @martinames59893 жыл бұрын

    2 channel amps with bass management are hard to find. This is an awesome piece of hardware, even without Dirac.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think so too

  • @faridmaruf3102
    @faridmaruf31024 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hans, glad you back. Hope you had a great holiday. Does the investment on MiniDSP (with DSP processing capability + Dirac) is better compare than having a good NAA like SoTM in SQ aspect? My concern is the measurement just only need to be done once, while both of them provide streaming capability.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    They do different things and thus provide different quality improvements. It is hard to say what would be the best order, NAA or Dirac. The measurements for Dirac remain valid until you make drastic changes to the listening room.

  • @RageZiekdope
    @RageZiekdope4 жыл бұрын

    Great review, thanks! I was wondering how it compared to the NAD M10 as on paper they are nearly identical.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sound wise I would rank them equal although they do have different sound characters. Feature wise they are different too.

  • @RageZiekdope

    @RageZiekdope

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel that is nice to hear! The SHD Power seems unbeatable in my upcoming desktop set-up, I was looking for decent power output, Dirac (+ mic), USB input and subwoofer support. Thank you!

  • @bobdylan6237
    @bobdylan62373 жыл бұрын

    Those Dirac measurements... They're so flat! You must have a fantastic setup 👍

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dirac can do that while maintaining a good phase behaviour.

  • @Antoon55
    @Antoon554 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered REW to make filters for Roon DSP to apply room correction. I wonder how this compares to the MiniDSP hardware. Benefit of Roon filters is that I can use my existing system.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have tried REW and heard the processing. As I did with a number 9f other systems. Not with Dirac. I think it - at least partly - must have to d with the mixed filter approach..

  • @GusdeHbg

    @GusdeHbg

    4 жыл бұрын

    So REW will work with ROON? you only need the endpoint and the SW will use the REW profiles? Nice to know that

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can load the convolution files into Roon.

  • @gizimowizard
    @gizimowizard4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hans. Do you use the same curves on your SHD Studio which is on your system 1 during regular listening?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @wojciechczupta
    @wojciechczupta3 жыл бұрын

    Hans, have you got a chance to test 'MiniDSP SHD' (the one with analog outputs)? I'm thinking if this is worth trying not only as room correction squezed between my DAC and source (SHD Studio), but as a full solution replacing DAC and Preamp.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I understand. I might, bot not on short notice.

  • @noga8974
    @noga8974 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Hans, are you planning to review the minidsp flex at some point?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    Not decided yet.

  • @YamilLlanos
    @YamilLlanos2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Do you think this device can be used to power fairly inefficient speakers? I have Magnepan MMG + Rythmik sub but I'm lacking a decent integrated AMP with DAC with bass management. I'm interested on this device, but I don't know if it is a good match for my speakers

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have no hands on experiences with Magnepans but the MiniDSP SHD Power hasss class D amps so power wise there will not be a problem I think.

  • @gerard3797
    @gerard37973 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hans, if you only want to add Dirac room correction to the signal path (so if you already have a Mac Mini with DAC/DSP combo like RME ADI-2) is there any advantage in using the DSP mini (hardware solution) over the software only solution for Mac? In terms of sound quality I mean.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    That all depends on how all is set up. Computers have a far from clean USB or SPDIF feed. If you would use the MiniDSP SHD streamer function, audio quality - even without Dirac - will be better.

  • @gerard3797

    @gerard3797

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Ok thx :)! It is purely for desktop use, so direct input over USB. I read that the RME uses something called SteadyClock FS which should highly reject jitter. So I will give that unit a try and maybe add miniDSP later on.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio4 жыл бұрын

    How accurate is the automatic room correction? Does it need manual fine tuning after the automatic part is done?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't need fine-tuning but you can very the target curve a bit to taste. Watch kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKaT0dN_ac3IXZs.html

  • @QoraxAudio

    @QoraxAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Ah okay, thanks! That one's added to the watch later list 👌

  • @mattmchuang
    @mattmchuang Жыл бұрын

    Love your content!!! I’m wondering if you’ve tried Buchardt’s room eq? I’ve been doing some research and have come to the conclusion that the best room eqs out there right now are Dirac and RoomPerfect by Lyngdorf…. But as you mentioned, Dirac has a cap of 96 kHz for sample rate. And it seems that Buchardt’s system can handle 192 kHz…..

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    No, I haven't tried Buchardt's room eq. About the sampling rate: I think the quality of the EQ's algorithm can exceed that of a 2 x higher sampling rate. Don't be fooled by numbers, check the sound quality.

  • @mattmchuang

    @mattmchuang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel wow. Thanks for replying and I’ll keep that in mind!!! I really quite like the fact that with Dirac one can setup for just 1 person or the whole room, so this makes me happy to hear ☺️

  • @Birdmacher
    @Birdmacher3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos! If MQA is important, then this isn't an option right? Is the NAD C658 the closest option to this in terms of price and features that supports MQA in addition to Dirac? Would it be silly to just use a Bluesound Nodi 2i and then add a MiniDSP DDRC-24 via analog input/outputs between the Node 2i and the amp/speakers in order to have full MQA but also Dirac?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    You got it!

  • @claudedickson9859
    @claudedickson98593 жыл бұрын

    The MiniDSP SHD/Studio require 2 DACs to use the unit as an active 2-way crossover. Does the SHD Power allow you to use it as an active crossover with just one DAC? My system is bi-amped. I could see using the amp in the Power for my woofers if I could use a separate DAC and amp for the mid/tweeters.

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @claudedickson9859

    @claudedickson9859

    3 жыл бұрын

    I posted this question on the MiniDSP community support and wanted to share with everyone the response I received. Their opinion is that the SHD/Studio is designed for active crossover application but the Power is not. They also said no external DACs are required with the SHD, but by-passing the internal DACs may provide better sound quality

  • @claudedickson9859

    @claudedickson9859

    3 жыл бұрын

    While a senior member of the support community responded, looking at the connections on the back, I don’t see the difference between two sets of digital output to a pairs of preamps or amps versus one set of digital outputs for preamp/amp and direct wiring of the amp portion of the Power to a second set of speakers

  • @claudedickson9859

    @claudedickson9859

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I understand the uses of these devices (FINALLY!). The SHD has analogue outputs as well as digital outputs so you could either directly connect up to four mono amps or 2 stereo amps. You could also connect 1-2 external DACs via the two digital outputs . The Studio is digital only so you would have to connect that device to external DACs via the 2 digital outputs. If you plan to use external DACs, that is the way to go as the Studio is less expensive than the SHD and you avoid any potential issues with compatibility with the DAC in the SHD. Lastly the Power is designed to power a pair of stereo speakers or a pair of speakers and a powered sub. It does not use the same DAC as the SHD; the specs for the Power state that the chip is for use with a sub.

  • @paznewis107
    @paznewis1074 жыл бұрын

    Serious comments: is this not a bit like the Bose sucks argument? Given enough time, tech/engineering nouse and modelling skills, you can make it sound like anything you want... Is this ok? Or do we want three components direct wired in a steel box?

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't get what the question is.

  • @paznewis107

    @paznewis107

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I don't know if there is a question, just the difference between all DSP, ultra high bit.... And all analogue point to point hand wired stuff. Wish I could win a lotto to try th AB comparison. 😺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @C--A

    @C--A

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paznewis107 These amplifiers with dsp, Direc Live, Roon, room correction etc could be compared to the current F1 car's, Motogp bikes that have lot's of electronic aids to prevent understeer, oversteer. Downforce, traction control etc. Some rider's love it while some prefered it with no electronic aids on the older cars, bikes. Yes there technically faster but it isn't as natural, the feeling is lost. Back to music, sound in the real world voices, instruments don't have equalisers, dsp attached changing the sound character. My system is a simple short chain source to point without lot's of different boxes pre amps, computers, media streamers, DACs etc diluting degrading the signal. Just a Oppo UDP 203 as the DAC & pre amp, CD/SACD player. Connected straight to a very high quality stereo power amplifier, plus subwoofer from the analogue outputs on the Oppo UDP 203. No room correction or eq. Thick carpeted room thick curtains with common sense placement of bookshelf speakers on stands. Only proper room treatment is custom made acoustic open cell foam on my speaker stands. With additional HiFi anti vibration silicone feet. Not heard a lot of other people's systems but sound quality wise in my room my HiFi system sounds very very natural. Accurate, dynamic, transparent 🎶

  • @Jedi71
    @Jedi714 жыл бұрын

    "only" $1499? I guess I'm cheap. (but not that cheap since I just bought Roon lifetime :) )

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    my sentiments excactly

  • @dkerlee
    @dkerlee4 жыл бұрын

    Room conditioning blocked by the aesthetics department

  • @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    @TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    😉

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