Thanks for this one. This was the exact comparison I was looking for. Honestly, through my own research and accord I had already decided that the M12 would suit my needs. While heavy into the M18s, I also use DeWalt and Makita in their respective 18/20 volt lines as each have their own advantages in certain tools for me. This would be my first foray into the M12 platform so future battery purchases would be made and open up some inclusion opportunities for other m12 products. A multitool had previously been thought as something I could do without, like those years I thought the same about a sawzall which I cannot imagine not having now. I can see the advantage of having a multitool in certain situations on the builds/fabrications I do. I was in the process of purchasing the M18 version as a gift and had thought to ask the visiting Milwaukee rep about the comparison between the 12 and 18. His response was to look at me like I was stupid and walked away to do something else. Oh, well. Can't win 'em all or let someone else's bad day define mine, lol. To everyone at VCG and the viewing gang members, Merry Christmas and stay safe!

****THE M12 OSCILLATING TOOL HAS A KNOWN PROBLEM**** First, I have many M12 and M18 tools, as well as a few oscillating tools, including two M12 fuels(first and second gen) and one M18 fuel. I stopped using the M12 OMT because the inside battery housing will destroy batteries! The vibration will chew up the battery ear clips that allow it to snap into the housing. Once they start chewing, the condition only gets worse. It's been the same thing for both generations. Once the tabs start wearing out, that battery will no longer snap into the housing support, and will easily pop out under even the slightest stress or vibration. Been using the M18 ever since. I have too many good M12 to allow the m12 oscillating tool to destroy my batteries. I wish Milwaukee would develop a new battery clasp/mounting system for the M12 batteries.

Thanks, went with the M12 Fuel. Appreciate your time to put these videos together!

Really good comparison video, I’m all in on team red myself, so I did pickup the M12 Fuel OMT a few weeks ago, for pretty much the same reasons you came up with. Have the previous non fuel M18 but wanted the less vibration and higher speeds the fuel offerings had, as well as slightly more compactness. That and saving the $80 was nice too. Not disappointed at all with the M12 Fuel, a great tool to pickup. Now I just need to find a sale on the Milwaukee blades in that compact case!

I see a lot of m12 owners so I’ll support my m18 guys. I got the m18 fuel and honestly I love it. The size actually doesn’t get in the way like you would expect. It’s also got the bigger light and the power is definitely there when you need it. I believe it was worth the money

@andrewwillis9759

18 күн бұрын

Same I just got the M18 yesterday and used it all day. Really enjoying it. I had no problems with hitting the speed wheel or anything.

VCG giving the people what they want! Great review, sold me on the M12, funny I started on the M18 with the drill & driver, but now that I got the installation driver, and now this OMT coming, 12 volt is getting the job done!

Great video. I got the m12 about a month ago apart of a package deal with the m12 stubby. The multitool came in handy on my bathroom remodel. Loved the little m12.

I went with the m18 for the auto feature alone. I haven't tested it yet but I think that will come in real handy when starting cuts when fine cuts are necessary. Less likely to walk on you.

When both tools came out, I went and got the M12 Fuel, cause I figured it would be perfect for the money. So far I haven't regretted that decision and now your review proves my instinct was good. I do like the idea of the auto mode on the M18 but I would rather save the $80.

Just got me some 7 years good luck! Going to get me the M12 ! Great work once again sir !!!

Thanks so much. This was the exact comparison I needed. It’s m12 for me. Even if they were the same price, the m12 seems more nimble.

@srt4fan4u2

3 жыл бұрын

There is 16 ounces in a pound not 10. When comparing the weight at the beginning you said the heavier one, the M18 was heavier by 9 or 10 oz and that is not true it's heavier by 15 oz because 16 oz is 1 lb not 10 oz lol

@srt4fan4u2

3 жыл бұрын

People do not buy tools to destroy them on purpose like you do. Demo them how normal people use them! We don't care if it stalls, your literally doing something the tool is not designed to do. This is why not of your shit lasts.

@Joeyg589

3 жыл бұрын

@@srt4fan4u2 woahhhhh take it eeeeeeeasy man

@Dhinsa90

3 жыл бұрын

@@srt4fan4u2 don't think your getting the point mate! Hes pushing it to the limit so we know what we buy will cope! it offends you don't watch it and fo create your own videos lol

@bobofwinnipeg9455

3 жыл бұрын

Like the weight of 12. Just carry extra battery.

Huge thanks vin , I have been holding out a long time to replace my corded tool, I'm in both m12 & m18 now I know to save the money and get m12.

For what I need and what I do, you convinced me to get the M12, and for its price point, it’s perfect! Thank you, Vince!

After owning both m18 and m12 I really am starting to appreciate m12 small size and power to size ratio. Its just great and getting better.

@AntonioClaudioMichael

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you @STICHAMP

@m.a.4084

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, started with M18, the gradually have added more M12, very handy, and easier to tote around for a lot of tasks. Just added the M12 Fuel OMT few weeks back, it’s great, both quality lines.

@Lkom24

3 жыл бұрын

The 12vfuel lines are the best on the market for class and out compete most 18v brushed and brushless. That being said the 18fuel lineups power is insane but the 12v delivers just enough plus the weight loss in tool size, makes the m12 the best to buy for me..except for a few tools here and there, hacksaw,vaccum etc

@AntonioClaudioMichael

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lkom24 I agree

@cryptidpizza9096

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lkom24 im starting to think the same.

Hey Vince, I was impressed with the M12 Fuel I saw you demonstrating in your video that I bought it at the Home Depot and got the free 2 amp battery. This tool rocks!

Vince is hilarious! Love his outros. lol

I truly appreciate this clear, balanced, apples-to-apples comparison. Like commenter Tim, below, I am about to buy my first Milwaukee oscillating tool but had NO idea how to choose between the M18 and M12 versions. (I have both battery systems in other Milwaukee cordless tools.) Why the company makes no effort to explain the differences between these two configurations strikes me as unprofessional and irresponsible. Fortunately, you stepped up and did the job for them. For this amateur carpenter and his meager budget, the M12 is clearly the way to go. THANK YOU!

Was wanting a review for these tools, and while typing in the search bar, I was like VCG surely has a review on this... and of course they do! Thanks guys

Thank you so much for doing this comparison vince! Very glad i invested in m12 tools, the multitool and impact driver are my favorites, i have the drill, hackzall, and non fuel ratchet also.

Vince and Nick thanks for another great review that's why I subscribe you guys are the best.

I plan on going with the M18, For the reason if I run into a need for heavier duty. Like cutting through a pipe in a wall I have the extra capacity. It's no fun buying an expensive tool and running into a need for the one you cheaped out on.

Thanks for the video. Great info. One tid bit that I think was missed, or perhaps a no brainer, is that due to the high price of the batteries folks should consider buying the model that fits their current battery supply if shopping on a budget. I am personally stacked up with M18 batteries, so the M18 model will be my go to simply for that reason. I just replaced the my small battery pack for 89.00, and they only go up from there. It's all preference, but I personally don't want to travel down the 12v road of battery purchases to save 80.00 on a tool. For me, it would be a 9.00 hit based solely on the price of the small 89.00 battery. Thanks again for the great comparison video.

Love your style and bold analysis which I trust. Thank you. You seem like an awesome guy!

M12. I like the smaller and lighter aspect. I am older and retired DIYer so I am not a heavy user. The M12 works for me. Thanks for the workout and comparison which goes a long way to confirming my decision.

I appreciate the info and review man I have a cheap oscillating tool that I used for random plunge cuts etc but the vibration has gotten bad and recently purchasing the surge impact that came with the battery packs I was trying to decide on the m18 and m12 oscillating tool as my next purchase and it looks like I really don't need the extra auto feature and I never had a light on mine so that's just a bonus. Thanks man for the solid comparison.

Thanks for the comparison. I was hoping for this video :)

This is difficult because I like the watt hours on the m18 but I am currently starting my m12 investment ahhhh decisions decisions! Loved the review thanks for listening to the community brother!

A reminder for content creators concerning work safety... Any tool with moving parts vibrates, even drills. But when it comes to things like jackhammering, using Multi tools or maybe flatting the ground with larger vibrating machines, or above all: the vibration tool no. 1: the concrete viber, vibrating the air out of fresh concrete, making it more compact. Thing is with vibrations, they are extremely dangerous. They damage your nerves if used for too long. Joints will also get fucked. I would simply like to see reviewers of tools like this take into aspect that if you use the tool for longer times, the less vibrations one is Always the winner. Also, dont forget that there are anti vibe gloves for tools like this as well! In many countries, there are established rules on how long and frequent certain tools may be operated by one person. You can't build if you're Dead. Safety first. Be safe and mindful out there, I am recovering from a snapped stretch joint in my thumb. Im a professional carpenter and I refuse to use this tool without rest for more than 30 m at a time, max 2 hours per Day. And even if the tools is used that frequently, something has gone wrong. All this said, this is DEFINETELY in my Top five favourite tool list as a pro. Peace

Thanks for the comparison! I ordered the M18 since the bare tool was one sale for just $10 more than the M12 bare tool, I've seen others test the auto feature and it actually seems nice and I will just use my 3ah high output on it to save a bit of weight. But for me most importantly, because I have CECS syndrome in my right forearm, even if the vibration is marginally better, that's the tool I will buy.

@Guitube99

Жыл бұрын

Other youtube reviews say the 12V vibrates way less... don't know what is going on

the oscillating blades in a shockwave box is awesome

Picked up my first oscillating MT thanks to your video! Get to use the same batteries that came with the M12 installation drill/driver kit, a double plus!

Now you have my interest. Battle of the Milwaukee M12 and M18 Oscillating multitool/blade.

Perfect comparison! Sold me on the M12, especially since they basically have the same capability but the m12 has the capability of getting in tighter spaces

I already have the M12 and I love it. As an electrician I haven't needed the extra oscillation, LED light or bigger batteries option, so I'm staying M12 in this case

I LOVE your videos! Loved how you broke down the stall issue! I just bought the M12 version. Haven’t used yet but so psyched to use it. Thx for your energy and informative videos!

@VCGConstruction

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and the feedback D knibb!

@shinhijikata3255

3 жыл бұрын

I bought the M12 version today. Upon trying it out, it stalled on me. I don't think I had my hand near the dial. I will try again tomorrow but maybe it's just the safety feature for the stall.

@Bryan-df7kc

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinhijikata3255 i had it stall on me a couple times in a row last time i worked with it as well :/

I should've grabbed the M12 deal when it was in the store, that was the deal if you already have batteries...

Super comparison, thanks. You confirmed my thoughts with real data. I replaced a Gen 1 M12 OMT with the M12 Fuel version and was amazed. I had ordered the M18 Fuel Gen 2 OMT but when it arrived, decided it wasn't likely to do much that the M12 couldn't do, and it was bigger and heavier, so I returned it. FWIW and without having actually used the M18 version, I wonder if it might be a little harder to control on detail cuts than is the M12 due to the increased angle of oscillation. On vibration, I wonder if the bigger battery is helping the M18 version to feel like it's vibrating less?

Thanks for the comparison, my brother n law told me to get one just in case. His is a Ryobi, so I ordered my M12 with dust extractor kit on sale a few weeks ago at HD because I waited to long like always and just got it two days ago. So I can't wait to use it. 👍🏻

Just unboxed the M12 a few days ago and have loved it then went to the depot and picked up the M18 and it felt huge. M18 felt like it had a bigger circumference.

Just picked up the M12 Fuel to replace my old M12, seems like it cuts better but the no tool blade changing makes it worth it! $150 at Home Depot with a free 2 ah battery, totally worth it!

Yep picked up an m12 today I am happy about it got a great price on ebay :-)

Thank you so much! I have been debating on which one to get and this was extremely helpful!

"...watch the whole video again at three quarter speed..." LOL. You always make me laugh Vince! Smashed the like button on so many of your videos I'm giving away years of good luck for Christmas. ;-)

Great video I appreciate your honesty. I have the older 18v and it’s not bad at all. I have not tried the new one so I wouldn’t know the difference except the price it’s lot cheaper the older model. Been in the construction field over 39 years so had the chance to try many different types of cordless tools. If I would say one thing it would be Quality control It’s amazing how so many companies forgotten about it. I understand these days tools are made in certain ways so they will break and you would go and buy another one. I remember trusting on certain types of brands just because quality was the best. I Olson understand battery life got much better so you get some good with bad. Thanks again

Got the m12 here in the UK with a free battery! Thing is a beast and nice a compact too! Glad i went with the m12

Just got the m12 for Christmas! This confirmed I put the right one on my list!

You know you don't have to remove the screw with universal blades, I have the brushed version 18v and I think it feels better in hand then the new one, it's one of the few Milwaukee tools I own. I'd go with the 12v the fact that it's lighter

I use the M-12 and am happy with the results. Thanks for the review.

I got the m18 with battery, tool, and charger for 150 after taxes. I’m excited to have gotten it for such a deal. My coworkers all have the m12. I decided to be different and got the m18 bc I wanted to have the bigger battery and more power when I needed. It’s been great to me. My coworkers sometimes ask to use it over their m12.

I got the m18 and the speed selector is indeed in the way. Always have to make sure it's at the right position before starting it. Otherwise, the m18 is literraly a beast.

Thanks for the video. I was originally gonna go for the m18 but the m12 has me convinced.

This is perfect, exactly what I was looking for. I have a couple of the small 2.0 ah batteries for M12, was thinking about picking this up, but wasn’t sure. I am now, picking up the M12 tomorrow. Thanks man, and as always, smashed the like button, you are awesome keep it up

Beautiful video Vince I enjoyed the comparison I have the M12 had no reason for it but now I do... hahaaa Thanks. Happy Holidays Bro. Eric from Wildwood NJ

@VCGConstruction

3 жыл бұрын

Happy holidays Cuz!! 👍🏻

I bought the m18 fuel a couple of days ago and I can't believe how much better it is over the standard m18 multitool I was kind of shocked how fast I could cut through a piece of 4x1 softwood

I smashed the like bottom and now need a new phone screen! Thanks for the video comparison!

I agree both are amazing tools the one thing i dont see you consider is if you already have majority or all of your tools in M18, and none to little in the M12. Not sure if im ready to upgrade my Multi tool yet, but when i am ill be considering the M12. The M18 would fit better with my arsenal of tools and batteries so it is still a contender even at $80 more.

M12 and love it, so far it gets the job done and there have been no problems. I found using the 4aH battery better because of the long run time, more so if you intend to run it at higher oscillations

Watched after getting the current deal on the m12, looks like it will be more than enough for my uses cutting some drywall and baseboards at home. Might even be the better choice in general. Thanks Vince.

Would definitely go the M12 route. Would be real nice and easy to maneuver with one of the round tube style batteries.

Thanks, Vince. I agree with you completely. The M12 FUEL is the way to go for this oscillating tool. In fact, I'm extremely impressed with the M12 FUEL line and have started to collect several M12s already. Always come here first, though, to see what it is and what you and the gang think.

Love your channel and reviews, keep up the good work!

@VCGConstruction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, glad the videos are helpful

I have both. I like the m18s power, I thought the M12 fuel was a monster,, then I got the M18 fuel. I like Auto mode for specific things like trimming door jambs. The M12 feels like it's more precise and is a little easier to use. I've been doing a lot of detail sanding with a 1.5 on it and it's pretty sweet. I'll need to get some more time on the M18 on some more challenging demo work to see what it's really about

@marcowens3522

2 жыл бұрын

From what he says in the video the m18 doesn't have anymore power then the m12?? if that's the case I may just go with the m12 especially since I can use my smaller batterys and be even more compact.

@maxbrap

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcowens3522 The M12 is fine for most things. The M18 works better on really tough cuts. It is more powerful and it has an auto mode that makes it easier to start cutting where you want. I use them equally

@bethlauridsen4489

Жыл бұрын

@@maxbrap Do you agree with him on the vibrations being noticeably lower with the m18 compared to m12?

@maxbrap

Жыл бұрын

@@bethlauridsen4489 It's been a while now since I've used them. It would make sense that the heavier tool vibrated less; but, it is heavier and I remember using the m12 more eventually just because it was lighter. I used the M18 mostly when I just needed more power. My wife, on the other hand, loves the m18; she uses it mostly for demo

I originally bought the m12 non fuel and used the Hack. I never had a chance to use it, and when the m12 fuel came out I hacked that one and returned the non fuel. I think I only got $46 for the return. As usual,, great video. And I have used the m12 fuel and I am very happy with the performance, it does what I needed it to do.

I go for M18 because I have the batteries already with my other Milwaukee equipment, that’s my reason. Great video, certainly makes you think.

This was a great video! You hit every single question/concern I had between the 2 tools. My plan is to go m12.

I just bought the m18 Fuel and I was very skeptical of the auto setting but it is my favorite part of the tool now.

Just watched the end, like your thinking with the m12 fuel💪🏼😁

The exact video iv been waiting for. Thanks.

Just bought the bare tool m12 fuel for $150 and a xc 6.0 battery for $120.. a little pricey, but glad i did it! The m12 is all you truly need for mid to heavy grade DIY. Home projects i couldnt be happier

Just picked up a new Milwaukee M12 fuel oscillating tool used it once today work great.

Killer review, exactly the video I was looking for!!!!

@VCGConstruction

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad it was helpful!

I like your point Vince about the tool being easy to knock over same with drills if your working in a house lay your tools flat! Also with the m18 I like that the battery is at an angle or it would interfere with your wrist I feel.

Thanks for the video and much respect to you and the gang. Understand your point here but for me, I opted for the M18 version. I have no M12 tools therefore no batteries. By the time I purchased the M12 tool and 2 batteries I would be over the cost of the M18 tool. Thanks for the comparison, gave me a good reason to think.

Thank you so much im always watching your videos . Good explanation saves me lots of dollars

good review, I purchased the M12 Fuel bare tool with sanding disc and blade, I already had a M12 Fuel impack with both batteries and charger, I really like the M12 Oscillating tool, wished I'd got one sooner, it's so handy.

Appreciate the hard work!

I just bought the m12 3 days ago and I love it, no problems at all with it my job I use all m12 I have m18 at home. The m12 tools are very powerful for only 12 volts

@WestHaddnin

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man im in construction as well. How long does a battery last on average?

@kevinwillis3046

3 жыл бұрын

Mist the day off a 6.0 if ur cutting just wood when u get into metal a bit more power is needed but the thing is powerful for a 12 volt tool

You need to put this to the test with the mighty Fein 18v max.

Not gonna lie i came on here to make sure i made the right choice and u gave it to me....i got the m12 fuel and it hasn't disappointed.

I've been transitioning from m18 to m12 slowly but surely. The tools and technology are just getting so good now...

As a DIYer in the UK, the M12, batteries and charger were on offer at FFX, which with your review made it a no brainer. Cheers, Gordon

Thanks for the Video picked up bare tool at HD for $120 today. Thanks Vince

Funny, I'm on M12 platform and the oscillating tool is on my wish list along with the pin nailer. Thanks for the review of the two.

How many of you smashing the like button for 7 years of good luck?! LOL Nice video, comparison!

I couldn't decide, so I split the difference and went with the M15.

Thanks Vince I definitely wasn't sure which one I should buy. I am definitely going m12 thanks

Thanks for the comparison vid! U still gonna do the Dewalt XR vs M18 Oscillating TTR???

I think I’ll go the M18 route, mainly because 18volt batteries are all I have on my job site. The M12 looks like a fine tool, and is a screaming good sale now. But it would drive me crazy to have 12’s and 18’s on my job until I croak. My sanity is most important to me at this point.

@internetjunkie9574

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough, I will say I've had the m12 fuel impact for a few years now & depending what type you work you do it excels on all marks. Very light, fits in all types of spaces & plenty of power for the size it can drive 3 inch screws & 2 inches lags no problem. To each their own tho!

The M18 battery and usage time is the advantage along with the auto feature. The higher capacity M18 batteries will allow more usage. They are the same size so M18 is the best option overall. Plus most people have more M18 batteries.

Weeks ago I went M12. Smaller lighter Both oscillating at same speed. You should give blades time to clear material not push down and overheat it - saves blades/money. Yes I have both m12 & m 18 batteries already

Your vid made me choose correctly, for real ! Thanks man

@VCGConstruction

23 күн бұрын

Glad I could help

M12 fuel for me and oh I can’t wait for the m12 fuel band saw that’s the one tool I’m really wanting

@michaelhernandez1398

3 жыл бұрын

That m12 band saw looks like what I need too nice and compact with a bigger jaw now

Smashed that like button. Love the Milwaukee M12 tools and the OST, but went with the Corded Dewalt.

Most honest review you have done yet!

Exactly what I was looking for, I was thinking that the M12 is a great tool at a decent price. M18 looks like a fantastic tool but pretty pricey. Curious of the performance difference between the two, this clinches it. Buying the M12. Thanks for the great videos.

I purchased the M12 yesterday before I even watched your video I guess I made the right choice all though I did do my comparison at Home Depot I went with the M12 kit for a total of $ 173.96 out the door , great choice.

I bought the M12 but then ended up buying a combo kit that came with the M18 so I've got both now. Both perform very well

@dannytran8746

4 ай бұрын

Which one do you prefer more?

Keep up the great Videos and work!👍🧰🪚🔨🔧🪜🪛🛠🔩🧰😍

I bought the m12 and love it! One heck of a tool.

Big dog! How am I just finding out about your channel now!? I’m glad I’m here

@VCGConstruction

5 ай бұрын

I’m glad you’re here, thanks!