omg thankyou for the shoutout ily

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Of course! I love your channel!!

@mauve9266

Жыл бұрын

Just subscribed and the binge has started 🤩

@chirara1071

Жыл бұрын

Subbed❤️

@angelag2

Жыл бұрын

yass

The experience of finding her on KZread like a few months to a year ago not knowing much about her and then finding out via apology about the laundry list of shit she did was WILD

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Mia shows that if you were finite it for too long and then switch up and address things can really lead to your demise

@sunmi2539

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@mychannel8809

Жыл бұрын

Literally

@fern4064

Жыл бұрын

Omfg I stopped watching her before this whole thing happened and I was so shocked like...

@jazbatzz

Жыл бұрын

@@fern4064 same! I hadn't unsubscribed though and when I saw the title of the apology i was curious and then BOOM all of that

"it's not about hating miiasaurous, it's about hating the environment that breed miiasaurous" sumarizes it perfectly

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m happy you get it

the weird thing about this situation is when i first watched her channel i though that she *was* half black because she would refer to herself as biracial while using the blaccent without clarifying her racial identity (at least in the vids i saw), so i mistakenly assumed that she was entitled to use that kind of speech because of her family/upbringing. i kind of dropped off watching her bc i had an issue with the way shed simplify certain issues or talk about things while clearly not doing enough research, but i was honestly surprised when i started hearing about this controversy...

@LuciKaede

Жыл бұрын

I know for sure that she did explain her racial background before the apology and she did state multiple times that she was half white and half asian. But with the blaccent that was used, it's not wild to assume that..

@TheRoseThorn

Жыл бұрын

I dropped her when she made the video about the Travis Scott concert situation because she had such a jokey attitude and it was just NOT okay for something so serious.

@00Rav3n00

Жыл бұрын

Same. I assumed she was half black half Asian; when I first watched her channel I thought she was a truthful, trustworthy commentary channel. When I heard about the controversy I wasn't even suprised; KZread has gotten so bad that I wasn't even surprised when I heard about the controversy. Sad isn't it.

@Hey_Jamie

11 ай бұрын

DNA doesn’t determine accent. Your surroundings do. Eminem doesn’t have a blaccent. He’s just Eminem. But he grew up in Detroit.

also “i know i’m a pathological liar but you have to believe me for 50 straight minutes” absolutely killed me

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I feel like there was a huge lack of self awareness with Mia saying that

@ailynnmckae1130

Жыл бұрын

I think it was just a joke to lighten the mood

@juno3281

Жыл бұрын

i knowwww like you can’t admit to being a pathological liar and expect people to believe you after. she should take some time off and go get help instead. i do feel bad for her cause i think she isn’t rly aware of how her disorder is actually affecting her. people usually can’t tell unless they see a professional. i’m a psychoanalysis major and the whole time i was cringing so hard cause it made no sense

@xxxflapjagk

Жыл бұрын

@@juno3281 she is seeing a professional tho

@juno3281

Жыл бұрын

@@xxxflapjagk okay? good then lmao

Awkwafina is an Asian comedian/actress who has been really rising lately. She has built her career off of her blaccent and use of aave which is why Mia cited her.

@mychannel8809

Жыл бұрын

There’s more controversy around her though where she is from Queens, a lot of people don’t feel she’s using a blaccent at all and just speaking how she was raised to

@mewmew6158

Жыл бұрын

@@mychannel8809 Which is inaccurate because she dropped it as she's gotten more popular

@turtwig104

Жыл бұрын

@@mewmew6158 Or she dropped it when she stopped rapping. This is still a stupid thing to “cancel” her for.

@mychannel8809

Жыл бұрын

@@turtwig104 or when the public started accusing her of being racist

@turtwig104

Жыл бұрын

@@mychannel8809 Stop lying because you wanna be offended on the behalf of my community. She only had a “blaccent” when she rapped which is no different than singing in a country twang even if you’re not from down south. It’s corny trying to police the way people code switch.

I actually haven't seen anyone cover this yet, I'm excited to hear what your thoughts are about this!!

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Duncan!! I’ve only really seen tiktok discourse on this topic and I had some requests so I thought I could bring it to KZread

@perryrhinitis

Жыл бұрын

Beauty Demon posted a video about this 3 days ago

@KuncanDastner

Жыл бұрын

@@perryrhinitis oh cool! I've never heard of them, I'll add that to my Watch Later

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm subbed to her I just have not watched it yet!

@coshy2074

Жыл бұрын

The ultimate crossover episode, love thatt

i was at a point where i binged almost all of mia's videos and then forgot about her lol. and when i saw her apology video i was like what? and clicked because i hadn't watched her in so long. needless to say it was a shitstorm, as you pointed out. i saw equal amounts of people in the comments forgiving her and others being like nah girl. as someone that wasn't a die hard i think i left some kind of comment like "glad you're figuring yourself out." because i didn't know what else to say. i hadn't even thought about it again until you posted this. glad for creators like you breaking this stuff down and going through it with your HARD-EARNED degree. makes me think about things more critically lol. also your makeup is fire today.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment and it is interesting to hear from someone that was a viewer of their’s. I assume you started watching her in the commentary era? Mia is quite interesting because of the way she was able to almost have two separate audiences within the two types of content she made despite it all being on the same channel

@deeviousrat

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric I did start watching when she was doing commentary, since I was already on that side of youtube. She deleted a lot of her videos so I can't say what drew me in but it might've been something about her browsing Savage x Fenty. I liked how her editing was snappy and quick-witted so I subbed after a couple autoplays haha. I feel bad for the audience of hers that paid more attention and loved her for the things she lied about, because my viewership wasn't really for her as a person. I definitely felt like a fish in an aquarium watching an argument in a restaurant or something viewing the apology video lol

@mahogara

Жыл бұрын

I only know because I'm watching Mikacs video now . I haven't watched her for a while, and the only videos I've watched were all commentaries and I thought she was entertaining. My dumbass thought she was black mixed with another race.

@localfairy_1113

Жыл бұрын

I thought she was black too or blasian

@v_bunny

Жыл бұрын

@@deeviousrat i watched her commentary a lot too, and really appreciated her interest in fashion, as someone who's passionate about art. she was a youtuber i watched for comfort because she made me laugh a lot. i feel that, "fish in an aquarium watching an argument in a restaurant." just not knowing what the context is, and feeling like you're in the middle of something that you weren't expecting. i didn't know about her videos from before her commentary era, so i was shocked when i saw her apology videos. i only skimmed through it but wow, safe to say i wasn't aware at all of what her long time fans have known

Thank you for not demonizing her. I feel that is the instinctive path to take but it takes the focus off the larger issue and nothing changes. I do want to push a little back on Jenna Marbles; as a WoC who loved her videos and saw the problem comedy, it hurt. It hurt to see how quickly people were to cape for her. It hurt to see the immediate vitriol if you even suggested she sit in her discomfort. I write this as someone who misses her content and felt her self canceling was also from burnout but yet again PoC bear the blame for being mean and judgmental

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

That is true and I agree. I am also sorry if there has been any backlash, I never noticed that before but I will be more aware in the future.

@astroblast2325

Жыл бұрын

Yes!! Jenna Marbles leaving felt disingenuous and like "self-cancelling" was a weird way to do what she would have beeb planning to do anyway, which was exit social media limelight/fame. I have so many feelings about that lol, and you're the first comment I've seen bringing up the disingenuity? Virtue signalling? Idk what to call it, but it never sat right with me

@lividsunshine8968

Жыл бұрын

@@astroblast2325 I think people thought it but she was so beloved there wasn’t any room to say it w/o being accused of being a sjw.

@LangkeeLongkee

Жыл бұрын

Glad you brought up the Jenna thing cause as a black woman as well, btches really need to stop dck riding her. What she did was wrong, and her apology was not perfect, she said a lot of things that the same commentators that put her on this pedestal criticise in others while apologizing, like bro she's not god

@YukiLeiu

Жыл бұрын

@@astroblast2325 I think that's why everyone had the reaction they did, and the backlash was an easy scapegoat for them. It always felt weird that she just up and left when she never reacted that way before but it didn't take long to be like “ah yea burnout”

The only reason I unsubscribed to her back in the day is because I realized I couldn't handle her raising her voice and then going back down in volume and then raising her voice again and getting very close to the mic. My anxiety would spike so hard lmao. I know this is an off topic comment, but I kinda just left her where I found her. All youtubers get into controversies so this is not surprising

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I saw some clips of her older videos in tikokts and they seemed pretty jarring.

@anastasiakuznetsova6425

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric oh absolutely. Also thank you for covering this, I love your style of video so much!

@LangkeeLongkee

Жыл бұрын

It was a lot for me too, but sometimes I'm more capable of dealing with it. I also was in highschool watching early youtube Jacksepticeye and Markiplier so I'm more used to it lol

@anastasiakuznetsova6425

Жыл бұрын

@@LangkeeLongkee the thing is I never watched either of them but I did watch pewdie pie when he started so I am surprised I can't handle that kind of video style anymore

@LangkeeLongkee

Жыл бұрын

@@anastasiakuznetsova6425 we get older lol. I watched PewDiePie too but I find Mark and Jack used to be louder, the only time I'd put Felix on their level was during Amnesia playthroughs lol. Sometimes I go back to some old videos and I'm like "my god-" too 😂😂😂 still love them tho. I just found she was really funny even if it took me a bit to get her jokes sometimes

True philanthropy doesn't need ovation, true humility doesn't need validation.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

⬆️

I have so much hate for people like her pretending to have bipolar disorder. Whenever they fuck up, it makes us all look bad and we are already stigmatised enough. And it is such an horrible, horrible life to live with it, and unfortunately, people like me die from that illness. I don't care that she apologised, the harm is already done.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

That’s very fair, that’s the worst part about KZreadr apologies, they tell you that you don’t have to accept the apology but also move on as if you will anyways

i hate that mia became the face of pathological liars now 😤 as a pathological liar in recovery, as long as you know where it comes from and what triggers it, you can live with it. i used to lie bc i was embarrassed of stuff like having a hoarder parent or hated to tell people i failed at something. as most mental health stuff, it can't be an excuse. yea you fucked up bc lying is your coping mechanism idk, but like.. own up to it. she's not sorry and she won't change lol

@peniscapture068

Жыл бұрын

I used to lie allllll the time becuase it let me hide the abuse coming home. If people are trying to figure out your age, they aren't anywhere close to my home life. I see it as a like a maze of keeping people away... but yeah, I left the situation and honesty was very hard to learn, but I managed and am better off with it

@ethicalibra

Жыл бұрын

pathological lying happens with no clear motive behind it. if ur lying because ur embarrassed that’s just regular lying & … relatable. most people lie because they’re embarrassed or failed at something. that’s normal. pathological lying is like … completely diff

@Aster_Risk

Жыл бұрын

@@ethicalibra Pathological lying absolutely can have a motive to it. Where did you get your information?

@juliacole5023

Жыл бұрын

She did own up to it

@sixtytwo-days6058

Жыл бұрын

@@Aster_Risk the youtubers i personally have watched has said the same thing and doing a brief search will say that they dont appear to have a clear motive, its more habitual to lie.

it fucking stings that she’s not actually bipolar. i had some fucked up phases when i was younger due to my mania and in a weird way seeing how chaotic her life was (or how she portrayed it) made me feel less alone.

mia's channel after she went full on commentary was basically rehash of what everyone else said, like i used to watch her but all her vidoes were the same. she once made positive-ish video defending belle delphine and later figured out her audience didn't like it so she made another video backtracking? im pretty sure. it was weird

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

She mentioned Belle in the second apology actually that’s so interesting

@elletheesocialist

Жыл бұрын

She changed her opinion after her audience pointed out how Belle’s actions are problematic. She actually did do a video on it prior to this controversy, owning up to how she was wrong. I wouldn’t say she backtracked to save face from her audience, entirely. I can respect when someone admits they fucked up, and changes their opinion with new perspectives/info.

@crab2195

Жыл бұрын

i was one of the commenters on the screen that she pulled up😂 it’s funny how she acted like she was enlightened when in reality it was so obvious that what belle was doing was wrong in the first place. that’s the problem with mia. she would make videos without any research. she spreads misinformation like wildfire.

I did watch Miia for a bit, and while I liked some of her stuff, something always felt off. After her first video dropped, it felt so awful. As somebody who has Bi-Polar disorder, it’s always a slap in the face when someone appropriates its symptoms/lies about having it. She’s actually deleted a lot of her videos, upon checking her channel to unsubscribe from her. And the idea that she’s just going to use the Sienna Mae situation to just restart her content production without really changing makes me pretty upsetti spaghetti. Thanks for putting words to how I felt about Miia’s revelations.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, and yeah I feel like the comeback video being on Sienna, instead of something that real needs nuance or can show any complexity is another slap in the face

@IndigoAlpha

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric it’s a double slap as a Bi-Polar person and an SA survivor for me. There’s a few kinds of lines that I feel one shouldn’t cross when you’ve lied about things like sex work, having a sugar daddy, etc, and your mental health makeup, and using someone else’s trauma as a way to “refresh” your channel is definitely one of them

@gayaspodcast

Жыл бұрын

the blaccent always made me uncomfortable, but i never wanted to comment on it cause i was worried i mistaken her intentions or something

@filthy.things

Жыл бұрын

Did you even fully watch the two videos?

@crab2195

Жыл бұрын

@@gayaspodcast i literally thought she was mixed… ik she doesn’t look like it but that’s how convinced i was.

It hurt to see all her white fans just completely dismissing what she's done. The amount of racism was crazy in the comments. Super fckin sad. It was an unfortunate reminder. Black women always lose, and black women will praise the bare minimum. It's a shame 😔 ALSO she was born in 99. (Edit: maybe not 99, idk, my bad though)

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

It’s really a shame that this is yet another example of black voices being cast aside online. And also she’s like less than a year older than me that’s still shocking because that meant she got popular on yt really young

@LisaLee__

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric Her age is actually shocking to me. I don't know whether it gives her something of a pass or not. On the one hand she says she specifically knew what she was doing was wrong/didn't feel right for the last 2 years but kept giving herself reasons and excuses... but then I look at my daughter who is 12 and mixed and she wouldn't ever conduct herself in such a way. My kid and I always talk about things like how she will always have privileges because of her white skin etc, she's just incredibly smart. Gen Z is really smart about these topics in general, I honestly thought Mia was a LOT older, shane Dawson age. None of it makes sense. And I hope she doesn't come back to this platform. Then to know that you, Mika, are the same age as her is mind blowing. Your perspective is on point and Mia could really grow if she makes friends with people like you. As for black voices, we go through this often especially black women. That's a whole conversation in itself. Anyway, black girls and women with a blaccent and potty mouth are dismissed as ratchet, while..... Ughhh just such a tired conversation that feels very lonely. Again thank you for your video. Props to you bbygrl

@annebelle9080

Жыл бұрын

I think if you know what you're doing is wrong, then it's definitely wrong. If for two years you are looking for excuses and reasons, then you're just trying to justify your bad behavior (and for two years at that!). While your brain isn't fully developed at that time, relying more on emotions rather than rationality... which definitely was encouraged by immediate gratification and KZread, plus as Mika said, getting super popular super young can delay mental/personal growth... obviously it was developed enough to acknowledge that she was in the wrong. Without properly changing, learning, and then growing who you are as a person (which can only be shown with time), at that age (I believe she is 22) it's not really excusable in my opinion. Could Miia change and learn in the future? Yes, absolutely. She isn't fully developed as a person and she obviously has a lot of things she needs to work through. But just because you grow, learn, and change, does not necessarily mean you have to be (or should be) forgiven or just given a pass. Also, as a mixed race person myself... honestly there's a lot of privileges but there are also a fair amount of downsides. In my experience, it is both way easier and harder, just in different and unique ways (especially depending on how/where/when you were raised).

@EC-yw5hg

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t a race thing… black, white, and any other ethnicity raised in a less affluent region will use what is deemed “aave”. And vice versa; those raised in a wealthier environment are less likely to use it. Be real.

clicked on this video, then thought “i wanna see this for myself first” and was literally halfway thru her second video when she privated everything 💀

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Wait really???

@heyyotayo

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric she took everything down!! her channel just says “Channel Name” and has zero videos. happened sometime around 3am MT

Her videos are so hard to get through, the blaccent, the tangents, random "bars" she throws in, weird off topic stories.... i couldnt tell if shes trying to get her rap career off the ground or if she was actually trying to make a point

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I hope that changes with Mia trying to be her authentic self

you and Beauty Demon are like the only people who decided to make a video about this? it's wild how someone with over million admitted to making everything up and it didn't became a bigger topic

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

It was big on tiktok interestingly enough

@corrinelove8254

Жыл бұрын

the voodoo child made a video about it too

@YukiLeiu

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if she was as big on KZread as she was other places like she didn't have a lot of content to begin with for her amount of following IMO.

@blueice155

Жыл бұрын

The Voodoo Child made a video abt it like a month ago

I honestly thought she was black up untill she said she wasn’t, funny thing is I’m black and was still fooled by her blaccent😭like I dead ass thought she was mixed💀

I remember when I first found her videos I thought she was going a little too hard on the blaccent and when people I’d usually see calling out those behaviors out were endorsing her I figured I was overreacting but it sucks to see that I wasn’t :/

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

At least Mia became aware

i was subscribed to mia for around a year but was never really a "fan", i only watched what peaked my interest. when i saw her og apology vid i couldn't even make through it. i rolled my eyes the second i saw her turn on the camera and i swear shes made fun of that before. it was so all over the place that i had to go to the comments to get the publics opinion bc i couldnt even keep up enough to form my own. i just ended up unsubscribing bc it just felt so ingenuine. her second apology got recommended to me and i just giggled a bit. if ur apology is true, caring and effective u wont need to make a second. her having to make a second video is just really telling in itself.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Yep! And the way they were just back to back like that much could have changed in a month???

@LangkeeLongkee

Жыл бұрын

I mean.... I didn't watch her videos and I'm still watching this one so I'm not talking about THIS situation specifically, but you can be genuine and just come across wrong. So I don't think needing to make a second apology says anything inherently other than the first one didn't come out right. I'm neurodivergent, I'm often misunderstood when I talk so going back to clarify simply means that, going back to clarify.

@bluebeesmarple

Жыл бұрын

when i watched the first video i noticed she had borderline because of the messy emotional way she kept bouncing between explanations, because i have borderline and i understood what was happening in her head, neurodivergent people get this backlash a lot just because of who we are, judge people by their actions not by how they’re born

i used to watch her but stopped because i just wasn’t liking the topics she was covering. this is a very big slap in the face for her community. i remember so many videos where she talked about being bipolar and how she was getting better - that’s such a cruel thing to lie about.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I just hope overtime she manages these lies and can truly make amends with people

I was basically like an og before she got millions of subscribers.. when she would tell story times about her “traumatic” experience in the Middle East (I forgot which part) and she would tell us how rude her aunt was in the Middle East and stories like that. Also when she would make videos showing her transition from hot cheeto girl to whatever she was..I’m honestly flabbergasted that she lied about 99% of the stuff on her acc like I’m BAFFLED! And as a black woman myself Idek what to say cuz I honestly loved her and thought she was one of the few authentic KZreadrs out there. I’m beyond taken back and I remember one video it was like her going to the strip club to get a job I can’t believe she lied about that too like what’s the point of glorifying something that u aren’t like HOW BAD OF A LIER CAN U BEEEEE?!

about the flip flopping.. i used to have a huge lying problem and when i came clean i.. lied in my coming clean bc i just couldn’t stop myself i couldn’t bear the weight and then i had to back track and it was just so fucking hard and frustrating that i would speak then think why did i say that

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

That’s fair, and thank you for sharing I’ll think about that more when people have a hard time with lying

It's weird that she brought up aquafina, because aquafina gets tons of backlash for being Asian and faking her blaccent. So she's just reaffirming bad behavior and wearing what she sees as "being black" like a costume. Which is a big no-no

Im black and was subscribed to her for a while and saw she posted a apology video but I kind of ignored it because it was so long so I brushed it off but holy shit??? Because I was a stripper at one point I used drugs I do have bipolar disorder and have shaved my head likeeee?? I loved that we had so much in common I’ll admit the cussing was cringe and the blaccent was weeeirddd and would make me tap out halfway through her videos

“Call out” content seems to be getting a huge overhaul right now. In one way or another, creators are having to face the consequences of their content and persona as a whole and it’s really interesting to see. I don’t think a big rebrand is happening any time soon but I feel as if people like Kuncan Dastner and you are leading the change. We need to reflect on ourselves and what we put into the world MUCH more often than we critique others, and this feels like the start of breaking free

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

That’s so nice to hear and I’m really honoured to be compared to the likes of Kuncan Dastner

@kaitlynm9463

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric Mika you’re one of the best brains on YT right now PLEASE know this

@renainai18

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric Have to agree with op, you're really changing the game atm and you have to know this!! Like seriously the effort and nuance you put into your work is amazing!!

@activitine62

Жыл бұрын

No, I think we should equally reflect on ourselves as much as we hold others accountable. Both are equally needed considering you alone cannot change the world.

@kaitlynm9463

Жыл бұрын

@@activitine62 you spend more time with yourself than other people. If you can’t manage to walk out with more personal growth than external, YIKES.

I remember watching a few of her videos in quarantine bc I enjoy long form videos and social commentary. You’re right, her videos did follow a certain formula, down to her thumbnails and video titles. I believe her videos got… strange, for lack of better words, is when she started making commentary videos and solely put Black women in the thumbnail and title (Meg, Doja, Rihanna). For anyone who has been on KZread for years, you know that it’s a major strategy for people to click and engage in a bashing session for 30 min and then go about their day. So yeah, none of her videos seemed to be in good faith and only were to jump on an idea that was “trendy” or had been spoken about by other well-spoken creators. I think she realized maybe from burnout or a drop in stats that this format was no longer sustainable. I’m glad you spoke about this because you put some ideas to words that many of us couldn’t think to leave in her comment section

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, it’s sad when people only feel they can recycle other opinions. It’s also a factor of KZread, most more ‘original’ videos don’t gain traction, even this video of mine is a pretty standard commentary vid compared to my normal content and this is the best video in a while. That’s what I wanted to demonstrate with this video too, while Mia is an extreme case, this platform creates influencers like this because of the algorithm it has

I thought the blaccent was sus but nobody was saying anything so I assumed she's part black 🤦‍♀️

I’m making a video on this topic and I’d like to clip a section of you speaking about the redistribution of Wealth vs platform - It was a great point I never thought of. I hope you don’t mind x

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Go ahead! I’ve seen some of your videos before, I look forward to your take

@PaigeChristieUK

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric thank you xx

Id been following Miia since she had 14k subscribers. I watched ALL of her long deleted story times and for the longest time I was proud of her. This is all just so mind numbing and disappointing. I don’t know what to think of her anymore. I just hope she can get herself some help for her pathological lying.

I'm not proud to admit how much this affected me, i started watching her between 2018-19 as an impressionable teen and definetly did some stuff that didn't go over well to be more like this fabricated personality she created, i feel kinda stupid now. I'm not POC so i can't talk about that, but in regards of reckless behavior it's a problem that trascends this and has to do with the media representation of the teen gir experience

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

This is such a good point, it glamorizes dangerous actions

@TheVivaciousNerd

Жыл бұрын

This is why I had to recently remove a teenage girl from my insta followers... she's a friends daughter and I know she looks up to me, and tbh I'm kinda still a bit of a party girl. I'm in my late twenties, I can and do party responsibly, but I know that her seeing me in clubs, drinking, smoking weed etc is a very bad idea. Her mom even thought I was being silly but like... she's 13, she's not gonna get that I know my limits and how to be safe, she'll just see patry=drinking=cool. I know this stuff I'd glamorised to teens anyway but I just don't wanna make her even more eager to rush into that stuff

THANK U SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING ABOUT THIS it really has only been black women making vids about her n stuff and no one rly listens to us yk and this needs to be talked about

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

It’s an unfortunate reality but I’m happy you liked the video

BPD can cause rapid changes in someone’s self-identity and self-image, usually resulting in shifting goals and values, and seeing yourself as bad or as if you don't exist at all (feeling of emptiness). I’m not saying she doesn’t have bpd, but symptoms are more nuanced than Bpd causes me to manufacture identities 😋 🇨🇦

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I also feel like she over simplified BPD

@sourgreendolly7685

Жыл бұрын

Just want to be clear, this CAN happen with BPD but that unstable sense of sense doesn’t always manifest that way. For me prior to recovery, it was back and forth between complete self confidence and complete self loathing. Not saying you’re claiming that, just wanna clarify.

@user-nx1vh4ej9q

Жыл бұрын

@@sourgreendolly7685 yes exactly. it could be either way. bpd affects everybody differently, and it depends on the individual. FROM WHAT I KNOW you could either have unstable sense of self (flip flopping between thinking "i'm a monster" to "im a great person" no in-between, part of black and white thinking) or you could feel like you have no personal identity at all, latching onto others to make your own personality. i also assume that some people with BPD also don't even struggle as much with identity issues at all.

@v_bunny

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nx1vh4ej9q yeah, you only need 5/9 traits to meet the DSM-5 criteria, so some people might not have a lack of sense of self. i personally do lack it and feel like i don't know who i am, and i used to take qualities of people i liked and forced myself to be like it. but i don't have very unstable relationships in the sense that i don't split on others easily, or cut people off and then bring them back in my life. though my fear of abandonment can, rarely, make me cut people off if i feel like they're slowly pushing me away, and also cling on to people who i fear will start to push me away (even if they aren't). Ava Benji is a youtuber i really love that explains BPD well and feels very comforting to watch. she talks about how people with BPD can be really beautiful and not at all like how we're stigmatised to be.

@user-nx1vh4ej9q

Жыл бұрын

@@v_bunny thanks for explaining your experience, and yes, everybody's bpd is so different and they have different struggles depending on the individual and how they cope. (and probably things they've went through, too, and attachment style and etc...) and wow, i'm so glad you mentioned ava! i watch her too, i don't have BPD but i regularly comment on her videos, she's so nice and awesome!

I watched mia for like 9 months before all this stuff came out. I had watched a bunch of her old videos and she was definitely a convincing liar. I'm so so glad you of all people covered this, I REALLY wanted to see someone break down the rhetoric in her video since I saw such a difference in how different people saw it (positive or negative). I THINK she got into commentary around 2019-2020ish so it took her awhile to stop doing the fake storytimes. Its wild that as recently as her euphoria video she was lying about drugs. I didnt expect her to resume regular uploads so soon tho, and esp a video on sienna mae when sooo many ppl have covered that topic already. She seemed to be acting back to normal in that video too and it's super confusing. Thank you for covering this 💕

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, and I should check out the euphoria vid because people mentioned it in other comments

it was also really bothersome because just how miia was taking notes for her apology, her white fans were taking notes for their comments because you take one look and it’s all “i’m not a poc so i cant accept this apology but…” and then they go ahead and accept her apology

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

It’s sad because I thought by now we’d know it wasn’t appropriate

hearing people use the abbreviation POC as an adjective is so 🥴 please just say people of color/creators of color/etc not poc creators/poc people/blah blah. interesting video though. edit: also it’s a bit annoying to have problems that affect the black community be overgeneralized into something that affects “poc”. it was annoying going into that comment section of her video and seeing nonblacks accept an apology that they had no right to accept. nonwhite =/= black.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the criticism I’ll take it into account

@dobeattttt

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric glad that you’re doing that! you’ve been in my recommended for a while and i’m interested in what else you have to say in your other videos 👍🏾

I’m glad you’re talking about this because I ended up unfollowing Miia a while ago after being a longtime subscriber and didn’t even know about this. In hindsight, the fact that she lied about a lot of her backstory makes sense because a lot of it didn’t line up to me back then, but I just never took it too seriously. I ended up unfollowing Miia because I noticed her content became very mean-spirited in the last year or so. I had previously enjoyed the way she would talk about things with a lot of levity, but I think she began to just dogpile on whatever was the hot topic on TikTok that week. It made me feel gross and sometimes insulted depending on the target. Seeing all of the messed up stuff she did almost makes everything click for me. Great commentary! And congrats on grad school from a fellow UWaterloo grad:)

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Omg!! What did you graduate from at Waterloo

@Ghoulia17

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric Omg sorry I didn't see this, I graduated from honours science! I also worked at the WCC so you may have worked with one of my colleagues if you worked on your thesis with the writing centre. Small world! Great work with your content, I've been very impressed with it this year

omg finally somebody is covering it. thereve only been like 4 creators talking about her and you have all approached it well and i’m glad people are calling her out. she cannot fake all of that and demonize so many people and groups while being a hypocrite and get away with it

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! The other creators made great videos and the intro of this video is 2 tiktokers that talked about this as well 🥰

I bet somebody threatened to expose her and that's why she came out to confess.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I think it was tumblr blogs that started unearthing stuff

@MsTinkerbelle87

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric it’s always tumblr lol

so glad you made a video, this situation feels very off. she still is portraying herself like that, and tried defending it over and over again. reminds me of tana when she's like 'i was raised around this culture so its ok for me to appropriate it'

@geminaljane

Жыл бұрын

omg you mentioned tana AHAHA beautiful

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

That is so true though, I forgot to even mention the ‘I was raised around it’ aspect of people’s excuses

@yveltalsea

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric I also think that its strange that she can decide to "turn off" the accent whenever she feels like it.

@yveltalsea

Жыл бұрын

and turn it back on for "comedic" purposes. :/

I’m a first time viewer bc I’d been searching videos talking abt this, you said so much of what I’ve been thinking!!! It is W I L D to me that no “big” commentary / content review channels are talking abt this when they all beat the Creepshow Art thing to death and that was someone w a considerably smaller sub count than Miia. I have so many thoughts on this situation I’m prob going to forget to mention all of them lol, but I agree w everything you’ve said - sry this is gonna be an essay: I used to struggle w telling lies when I was a teen, it was for a similar reason as Miia mentioned ie having an unstable and kind of embarrassing home life and wanting my life to seem better / wanting to deflect from my circumstances. However, a) the stuff I lied abt did not involve others b) they were nowhere near this harmful or grandiose and c) I wasn’t lying on a platform of over a million subscribers, I was lying to a small number of people in everyday life. Towards the end of my HS years I realized I was just lying bc I didn’t like myself / my life and I wanted to start over and be completely genuine / authentic w people, and thru therapy I was able to work thru the root of my issue and thankfully I went on to university to make new friends in an honest manner. Now I legit never even tell white lies and I’m glad abt it. Bc of my experiences I can have empathy w her to a very small extent, but once again even I never lied on the scale she did or abt such harmful things as she did. A horrifying amount of people have mentioned that Miia normalizing sugar daddy stuff or normalizing drugs led them to participate in sugar baby sites (putting them in direct danger of being taken advantage of by men) or try hard drugs, like that’s terrifying??? What stuck out to me is that Miia mentioned she started therapy for this issue 2 years ago - but she still continued lying constantly??? She lied abt doing ecstasy in her Euphoria vid that was only a few months ago. I agree w Voodoo Child’s vid, I feel like she might’ve only come clean bc someone from her irl life was going to expose her for this stuff. Who knows if she has actually been seeking therapy for this as long as she claims she has. What’s craziest to me is that she has just immediately jumped back into commentary vids, like how are you going to continue a career of calling people out for being fake and lying when you yourself have done that? Would you not roast someone who did the exact same thing as you? She clearly thinks she can just continue her YT career like nothing happened bc she needs the monetary revenue but it’s like, girl just get off the Internet and find a diff job while you take time to reflect and change. It’s especially WTF bc her first vid back was on Sienna Mae, like you’re gonna make a vid abt harassment and assault when you admitted to lying abt a relationship w a teacher???? I would simply not show my face online again for at least a yr, maybe if she did take that much time off I could believe her eventual comeback was genuine. I honestly thought she’d take time off but nope. Everyone praising her for the bare minimum of coming clean is just enabling her.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

This is such a good comment and this is so interesting. You would assume you would not admit to doing 'work on yourself' while still literally doing the bad things (in this case the lying). The connection between Sienna and the teacher thing is something I did not even think of but is really enlightening.

i’m only like halfway through the video, but i wanna give some potential explanations from a psychological perspective. overall i have the same opinion, her apology was wack and she needs to get help. there were some things i thought that were motivated by something else. i’m about to enter grad school for research psychology, so id like to think i have some experience lmao- first i think people, mostly, categorize behavior based on their own personal experience. even if they think they’re being unbiased, it’s hard not to be unless you’re specifically trained that way. all psychology students make the same comments, “don’t address sensitive mental health situations because you will get it wrong” psychology is such a convoluted science because you have to know the big picture to understand where the little details come from. it’s like picking a few sentences in a book, and then just guessing the story based on those sentences. and you won’t understand it unless you’ve already read the whole book. so please don’t take advice or anything really from someone who has no experience. even me, i’m still in school i don’t know everything, and i won’t touch on the things i’m not familiar with. i could be totally wrong but i think it’s important to keep an open mind. luckily my subcategory is psychoanalysis, so this is what i usually do anyway lmao- i think your assumptions are correct but for the wrong reasons. she kept focusing on how all of this has affected her, and that’s obvious to anyone. if it’s true that she has a debilitating disorder, i don’t think it’s a sign of her being untruthful. its human nature to be selfish even in normal circumstances, so when someone’s dealing with something negative, that selfishness will probably increase. this is the biggest reason why i think she shouldn’t have made this apology. it’s something that wouldn’t be bad in any other situation, but when people are affected by it, it becomes harmful. i think her rambling and stalling is most likely because it’s embarrassing. i’m actually a little surprised no one picked up on that, but it’s very hard to confess to doing something bad. especially when there’s no excuse to give. imagine doing something like that and then having to admit it to millions of people. i think it’d be weird if she was completely calm and composed because that would suggest she doesn’t think anything she did was wrong. simply cause it was unedited. seeing someone describe awful things they’ve done concisely with a straight face is very unnerving. again she shouldn’t have made the videos because it makes her look worse, regardless of her intentions. she shouldn’t have mentioned anything about her disorder because it’s not an excuse to do the things she did, and the things she did aren’t things representative of BPD. this is a little hard to explain but, when someone has a disorder it’s like a film over their true nature. and that disorder will affect people differently depending on how they are naturally. if you’re a naturally selfish insensitive person your disorder will be a projection of that. especially personality/mood disorders. this is just an example but i’ve been diagnosed with ocd since i was 9. im naturally someone who cares too much about the well-being of my close friends and family, so my obsessions revolve mostly around that idea. if you’re naturally a selfish insensitive person, that’ll probably be amplified by the disorder. especially if it’s something hereditary. we don’t really think of anyone as “good or bad” because we’re trained to treat everyone equally regardless of their issues. most people assume we’re excusing someone because we don’t condemn them to hell, but you’ll most likely get that from everyone who works in mental health fields. which again is why people with no knowledge of these subjects shouldn’t speak on them. it takes a certain level of detachment to accurately assess someone’s state of mind. your psychiatrist might seem like an insensitive prick because their job is to treat you based on their own opinion. and you’ll most likely be encouraged to get second opinions because it’s hard to be completely unbiased. a lot of people who have no idea what they’re talking about will usually present the person or disorder in a negative light which is so very dangerous. presenting them in any light is dangerous but especially negative because it can lead to people thinking they’re less than or don’t deserve to get better. which sets us back like 50 years lmao we really don’t want that. you can condemn their actions, but putting that onto the person specifically isn’t a good idea. unless they’re like a pedo of a serial killer. even having a disorder doesn’t make you qualified to speak about other people with the same disorder. just having a bit more empathy for other people and our future in general would be nice. you might think what you say isn’t that serious but there are people who will take it seriously. talking about people’s person struggles is a sensitive subject, which is why you should treat it as such. also this is like addressed generally, not to mika specifically! most people have good intentions when talking about these things, but it can backfire if it’s not handled correctly. i just want people to get help lmao a lot of people are too ashamed of themselves to get help and it’s because of how the media portrays them. it’s really sad to think of someone in that situation, and i hope eventually it’ll change.

@Sofia-wh9jr

Жыл бұрын

Excellent comment and I totally agree with you

I used to watch her videos because I thought she felt relatable and I only found out about all her actions when she posted the apology videos, and honestly what kicks me is people accepting an apology from someone who’s career depends on them to accept it that feels very slimy to me and I’m glad I unsubscribed once the apology videos got released because taking a month off and then posting a video about Siena Mae is just wrong like take more time off, or maybe even KZread just isn’t the career for you. Anyways amazing video!

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, and I agree that the comeback was also quite distasteful, which makes the comeback feel even more disingenuous.

just started the video but have to say i love the yellow blush/eyeshadow look its so summery and fun!

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! This is my favourite makeup look I have done in a while!

Glad you're covering this because I watch you both. Also love the eyeshadow+blush combo

honestly i became a fan of Mia when she started her commentary conent and when she dove into it i barely saw any of her old content so when i watched her apologies i was overall confused since she didn’t really explain the situation in a clear of what she did i’m so glad ppl are clearly explaining this situation because fans like me are being left in a dark

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I’m happy you got the explanation you needed from this

I probably watch an older black community on YT, but Mila is nothing like any of them. They for instance, have extremely strong arguments for their points, and calmly spend the video explaining those points. Mila is copying a fake stereotype mainly for me. Black YT from my experience, is the most reasoned and intellectual corner of YT. I am a scientist and working towards my doctorate, and "science" YT is far less reasoned and intellectual than Black YT from what I have seen. I watch almost entirely black female creators, but I think that works fine here.

@luciana4075

Жыл бұрын

could u recommend some channels if u don't mind pls

@CureSmileful

Жыл бұрын

yes I would like some recommendations as well

@potatocat1072

Жыл бұрын

Can you give us some recommendations

@pykenotpike

Жыл бұрын

Same on the recommendations if you’re willing

@faeriegraver

Жыл бұрын

A few black creators on KZread that I recommend: Khadija Mbowe Tee Noir Foreign Man in a Foreign Land Kat Blaque T1J Toni Brianne TV Shanspear Intelexual Media Shark3ozero Kimberly Nicole Foster Fab Socialism FD Signifier Kidology

I’m so glad you’re talking about this, I’ve seen too much biased coverage, we need a fresh take 😩 (also that makeup look is stunning 💘)

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I forgot to mention in the video but I have no prior opinions on Mia, frankly I don’t really know who she is, so this is a video only looking at the recent situation so I hope there is minimal bias here

to be honest i kinda took her apology videos at face value, thank you for giving another perspective im so embarrassed now lol

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Don’t take it that way, I think there are many ways to take it and I was just sharing what I thought because others asked me

@peenyweeny3834

Жыл бұрын

@@MikasRhetoric i know but ur perspective & the things you shared were very helpful to me so thank you!

@MsJeanneMarie

Жыл бұрын

Don’t be embarrassed. Two or more things can be true at one time. We can only rely on the information we have. Unless there is hard evidence to the contrary, I like to take people at face value.

@peenyweeny3834

Жыл бұрын

@@MsJeanneMarie thank you, i lnow youre right but i feel like i was just overlooking a bunch of the weird crap she was saying because i didnt want to judge another abuse survivor. like my critical thinking skills immediately switched off when she started talking about that. its kind of embarrassinf lol

@MsJeanneMarie

Жыл бұрын

@@peenyweeny3834 yeah, but I mean she could be an abuse survivor and also have committed a lot of bad acts ya know? People are multifaceted. No one is pure bad or pure good. And it’s not embarrassing or stupid to have empathy for, or understanding of, people who do bad things. I think your first instinct and your new understanding of the situation could both be right.

I feel like this all boils down to media literacy and parasocial relationships. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true. I’ve been on the internet longer than most and I just assume it’s fake until it’s proven not to be. I’m of the era of chain emails and Y2K so I don’t understand where we lost our ability to think critically about what is uploaded to the digital Wild West.

This video was so good it made me want to watch the apology video (I hadn’t seen it yet) only to find that the entire channel has been privated 😭

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I know it was so shocking

@Yuri-uf2tu

Жыл бұрын

Omg wait what??

So glad I found your channel as it's growing - you're really interesting and grounded to listen to.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you you’re so sweet 😳😳🥰🥰🥰

As soon as Mika mentioned being French Canadian, I had to surpress the urge to yell "Tabernac".

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

In tabarnak we trust

Killer eye look, yellow looks great on you Im pumped to watch! Haven't seen ppl rly talk abt this plus Im as always supes excited to hear your perspective

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😊 💛💛

Really happy you covered this situation! I watched peter’s video too. Also love your eye makeup today

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And that reminds me I need to tag peter’s video

I used to watch a lot of miiasaurous when she did commentary but I stopped watching her because I realised that watching her videos used to stress me out because I'd always click on it knowing she would have almost the opposite take on any situation that I would have, and watching her videos wouldn't convince me of her opinion but she would always make it seem like she was the only right one? idk how to explain it lmao

i'm so sad about this apology video of her, because i really like her past commentary videos but this is sooo wrong i'm not sure if i would watch her content again, btw thank you for addressing this type of apology video because it's something that isn't talked about that much.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, and I understand that it is sad when you cannot watch creators you love anymore

I love how you explain content!! When the first Miia "apology video" came out I noticed alot of support but also some folks who pointed out things that were terribly negative and YT was shadowbanning comments. I appreciate that you're another person willing to point out all the terribly negative things with the online persona of this person since commenters who were voicing this information were being silenced.

I looked her up again and she is nowhere to be found on KZread. She seems to have privated her videos or deleted them and called her channel “Channel Name.” I might be having a glitch but I legitimately cannot find her channel.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

She seems to have either deleted it or privated it somehow, I have a screenshot on my Twitter

Sad thing is her jokes were actually really funny. Sure she probably got lots of fans from wild stories but she didn’t need to

in her apology she talked about how she couldn’t delete her previous videos because she needed to “make money”. she planned on continuing with life as normal. i guess the backlash got to be too much because she deleted her entire channel. her channel is nowhere to be found.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Yes I heard!!

Omg I didn't expect you to make a video about this but I'm so happy you did

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

It was the first video I’ve received several requests on for quite some time

i’ve been really enjoying your content since discovering your channel! as an english undergrad student with a focus on digital rhetoric i value and appreciate your perspective. keep up the great work!

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And I hope this channel gives you an idea of possible uses for your education!

she is completely deserving of criticism but i feel like most people are just bashing neurodivergency behaviors that are completely inconsequential, instead of the actual problem it’s upsetting that in this serious situation we are being considered just as much of a problem as her actions, i heard and read people saying things i heard many times when i was just trying to quietly exist in a enforced family event or whatever, the way we talk, think, behave, is always questioned for no reason even if it’s benign, they twist it as disingenuous

Haven't been recommended a lot of your recent content (thanks KZread 🙄) but this popped up and I ran here so fast. Miiasauraus has been fascinating to me, a Black woman. I've found her content off-putting for some while due to her delivery style and the blaccent. But the apology was so lacking for me. Honestly, just do better. Stop doing the thing. And once you've admitted you lie about everything, an apology is sort of a waste of my time. How do I know that's not a lie too?

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Others made that point too, like how do you admit to being a pathological liar and then just assume people will believe you

@asmileisspecial

Жыл бұрын

YeH, what the hell? I’ve subscribed to her and missed the majority of this stuff but the blaccent was always Too Much as was the editing/jokes and she was one of my I’m subbed but don’t know why YTers. I never really expected anything from her so I’m not surprised to hear any of this but she needs to be far more accountable.

The orange blush is stunning

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

I'm not even shocked....I watched one video of her about doja cat and now this Everytime I watch a video of someone then boom ....SCANDAL

“This video is giving essay done at 11:59pm energy.”

thank you for making this video. i was a fan of miia’s for a while and the reality of the situation didn’t really hit me until i watched this and read the comments. the comments on her apology videos rubbed me the wrong way; a lot of them were something along the lines of “i can’t accept your apology BUT” 😒 thank you again for this vid, it really helped me put things into perspective!

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

man i hate not understanding tone bc i'm autistic. i've learned to think that people are genuine when they do certain things, when they use their voice a certain way. same with sarcasm, but ultimately the information that enters my brain are the words that are said by the person, not the way those words are told. so when someone tells stories i gobble it all up because i don't have the innate thing that allistic people have when they can clock disingenuous people and liars. i take everything literally so if you tell me something i'm going to believe you because i guess my brain doesn't understand how and why people lie (or use sarcasm, troll, irony, etc). i'm not a native english speaker so i put my thoughts of her having a blaccent and it being weird on "i'm white, its not really my place to call it out and it could just be a regional accent that i don't know", and believed her stories. i felt dumb when she said she lied about everything because i was like "of course! i should have known! i know by know most storytimes are fake." and in her confessing video, she came across as distressed and i interpreted it as "she's distressed that she hurt people"... seems like i was wrong again 🤦‍♀️

@gregwolfe8693

Жыл бұрын

No one can truly tell whether or not another person is genuine just by vocal inflection. Tone and melodic phrasing have nearly nothing to do with whether or not a person is being genuine. Also, I wanted to say I'm learning a new language and I am having a very hard time learning the inflections, especially with comedy. I feel like I've lost my humor, in a way. When you've become used to your native language, it feels jarring to switch to anything else. Most of us had no idea Mia was lying, don't beat yourself up over it. Even IF someone had a suspicion, that's not enough to make a definitive decision (until evidence is presented).

@nathanscore

Жыл бұрын

@@gregwolfe8693 thank you so much for taking the time to write this reply. most of the time i feel like even when i understand a language's words it all feels like a big guessing game and i hate it especially when something is obviously a joke/satire/disingenuous to others but i take it seriously. it makes me feel better to know that it's not something only i and other autistic people struggle with.

As a fellow degree earned youtuber, I appreciate you bringing up that you are still pursuing your degree while doing youtube. I truly enjoyed watching this breakdown. It truly confused me that no one was actually talking about this and also just how quick people were to just blindly accept apologies like she did something small. 😭

I dunno why I am only finding your channel now, but I have been binging your videos past few days, love love your format and personality! (:

I'm so sad about this... she used to be one of my all time favorite KZread creators, and I've been watching her for a long time. At the same time... some of her older videos put me off for a few reasons, mainly just bc it seemed like she was not telling the truth about her stories. It's always sad to see one of your faves being called out, but I'm glad you're discussing the topic bc that apology video was a hot mess lol update: I'm not a fan of her anymore and I'm never supporting her videos ever again lol

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting and watching even when being a fan or Mia

@elinaw6175

Жыл бұрын

Same, I liked her content a lot, I thought it was fast paced and snappy, she was weird and odd in a very "mood" way, if that makes sense. This is really sad to see

Glad you covered this

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I wanted to discuss how Mia is just kinda part of an unfortunate internet phenomena more than anything else. Also I love your name lmao

super thankful for this vid. i was a long term sub to mia, and i say that pretty loosely lmao. i subbed to her one day yeeeears ago and just kinda watched her a bit here and there, but never really felt any kinda way. she was funny and pretty chaotic (positive.) some time ago i saw her apology video and i was like what? so i TRIED watching it and it was honestly so spastic and chaotic in the worst way. it felt like me having an episode or something, like it was just, all over the place. i couldnt finish it. but it definitely changed my view on her quite a bit. from just this youtuber i casually watched that was messy and chaotic to like, whoa, whats actually going on here? so thank you for taking the time to really explain, cause i truly couldnt handle whatever that video was. i dont wanna say its triggering, but, kinda is. on top of being like, bullshit ya know? its just hard to watch. your video however is refreshing, so thank you once again sorry for rambling. edit: o and new sub and ty for rec zhariya as well!

Like I've said in another comment section on this whole thing: I'm realizing that the reason my love for her content declined, was because I was maturing and starting to understand people can make up their entire lives online. When she began switching her content to match up more w commentary rather than storytimes, I think I lost interest because she had this fake persona online. That works when your content style is storytimes, because you can lie about it all, and still come off as genuine to a younger, more gullible audience. But when that audience begins maturing, and you switch to content where you actually have to show parts of the real you to keep up the interest, that's a problem. With commentary, you have to have opinions. Parts of your personality can be seen through the opinions you have on topics. Issue here is, she couldn't really do that. She had to use the lies she told about her life, and factor them into her opinions, i.e she had to use the supposed "experiences" she had, to explain why she had the opinions she did when doing commentary. And I think her trying to do that, while I was starting to mature and realize how the internet works, had me unknowingly lose interest, bc I couldn't really feel connected to her like I used to. Her jokes began feeling like an inside thing I wasn't clued in on, and I often felt like she was overly animated or idk, robotic, just kinda.. distanced in her videos. I used to feel like she showed so much passion in the way she talked when doing storytimes, it felt like we were sitting in the same room, dishing out scandalous tea w eachother. She seemed so much more genuine to me back then. Idk, maybe I'd think differently about that if I was watching it back today. Point is, her content started feeling off to me. And it can't be bc I just don't enjoy commentary as much as storytime videos, because I've stopped watching storytimes all together. I only watch true crime and commentary. So it wasn't like she stopped making the content I preferred, actually, I should've began falling back in love w her content if we're being logical here. But she just.. she felt off, as I grew older. And I think it has to do with the fact that I matured, as she got into a style of content where u have to have some personality shine through to keep the audience's attention, not realizing that this conflict made her seem less relatable than ever. But idk. I don't wish anything bad on her still though, I just hope she gets help if that's what she feels she needs as a natural next step, and that it works out for her, so she doesn't ever pull some shit like this again. But then again, I'm also very aware of the fact that I'm not part of any of the minority groups she's hurt, except for sx workers. But idk, that part didn't really hurt me personally, so I won't speak on it more, bc my opinion isn't productive to the convo, nor do I have enough knowledge for my opinion to be taken seriously. Anyway, if u read all of this: thanks, ily, u beautiful, stubborn and dedicated person. Hope u have a good rest of ur day, u deserve the world.

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you for the comment and it seems pretty normal to slowly mature out of content but it’s not too common that we can find the cause for it

@arielhavik6693

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@@MikasRhetoric of course, just found ur channel today, and I'm binge-watching already. You're very professional, I was surprised to see you didn't have more subs. So ofc, I had to become one of them.❤️ anyway, YES. I don't think I've ever really thought about it if I stopped watching someone, especially if it happened like this any other time. It's strange how I noticed that this time though, and could conclude w that. Usually, it just happens and my brain doesn't even think about it. But she really gave me some off vibes, I can't explain it properly, she just seemed so different from how I remembered her to be when I was younger. It's really weird

As of right now it looks like she deleted her channel.

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

I saw!

i just looked up miia's channel and it just says "channel name." it's no longer showing any results, i didn't realize she had taken it down

Came here from petty Paige. Glad to find more meaningful commentary content to watch ✌🏻

Okay, hold up. I've only seen one other video on this and had not heard it all. The teacher thing is some real Blair Waldorf type ish lmao. But on the whole, if you relate to me bit, I think there are actually a lot of people who lie habitually and routinely get caught up in it throughout their life, which you could see from people in her comments, clearly, so I guess target audience reached? Addressing that and offering advice for people who have that issue, I don't mind, but it should've been its own video. The video should've stayed focused on who she victimised and supported the disenfranchisement of.

this is a very refreshing take on miia's content & apologies

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you, I feel like this whole ordeal did not get the coverage it needed

I stopped watching her when she started calling out celebrities and influencers accusing them of being culture vultures and/or using blaccent when she's blatantly doing the same thing. It was glaringly a projection. For a lot, they gave her a pass because they thought she was black but as someone who is surrounded by southeast Asians, you can tell that she's an Asian.

youtube is the only social media i really use, i watched mia a bit so I'm excited to hear about this

@MikasRhetoric

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Good I hope you like the video :)

Thank you so much for your thoughtful input, I was wondering how ppl weren't talking about this....

i really relate to the many *many* eyerolls in this video.

Im very glad you’re covering mia. I was a very big fan and used to binge all her content and eventually she became just a now and then watch. I saw her apology video a month back when it first came out and i was very confused. I think her use of words during both videos are odd and could’ve been much better! You did an amazing job on this, thank you :)

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you for watching and I tried to take a somewhat nuanced take on this

i remember watching her videos when i was younger and it was always clear she wanted to create a false narrative about herself (especially in her story time era). in her commentary-esque videos a blaccent was still used in the lead up to the "apology" which completely shuts down the narrative that it was something she had a long term guilt for. miia would benefit massively from stepping back from youtube and completely rediscovering her own personality but i doubt that will ever happen as for her, youtube seems like a masquerade. great video as usual! :)

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you for the comment, and I don’t think Mia will step down either she mentioned multiple times in the videos that she needs to make a living

2.3x speed? Girl 😭

@MikasRhetoric

Жыл бұрын

My brain thinks fast 😭😭

It’s like she’s publicly apologizing to herself

Glad you’re covering this, I think more commentary channels have a responsibility to say something about this!

@MikasRhetoric

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I am actually surprised how little this has been discussed

@sabrinapugs

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@@MikasRhetoric exactly, your analysis was really good (like all ur vids!)

I love how you begin your videos and how stunning your makeup always is! Thank you for feeding not only our brains with your intelligent commentary but our eyes with your constant looks!!!

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you that’s so kind 😳😳

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but i think mia is talking about Awkwafina the Asian-American actress/'comedian' that was in a few triple-A titles? she is pretty twitter infamous for having a very obvious blaccent when doing 'comedy' and not having it in serious and emotional scenes. also: mika, once again you've done a great job balancing your expertise with honest commentary and i just love how your videos are formatted!! :)

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you! And yes the comments are educating me on Awkwafina

I commented on her first video “at this point i’m just talking to my ex” but on a real- I couldn’t watch the second video because it really did put me back with my pathological lying ex. I wasn’t even a fan, felt no betrayal. It still triggered something. Coulda just been me lmao

@MikasRhetoric

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I can see that happening, and I am sorry that you experienced that

I saw these videos in passing but never watched them bc like…while I watched some of mia’s videos and liked them, the more I watched, the less I liked her, which is not really what you want as a content creator. It wasn’t anything terrible that made me dislike her, just that she said the same jokes, spoke very quickly and loudly (like it felt like she was at a shouting level?), and did this fake laugh that was so weird to me. I always thought of her as a small creator, so I was kind of surprised to see this being covered, but I’m very happy about it bc I find your channel to be much more pleasant to listen to & appreciate your summary/analysis!

Thank you for the covering this! I have watched miiasaurous but did not watch her apology videos she posted. I didn't even know why she was in heat or whatever.

thank you so much for your thoughtful commentary. after watching both her videos it was a little off-putting how positive all the comments were, as if she didn’t center herself many times and drag on the conversation to grasp at straws for forgiveness. i feel like it’s important to note as well that she posted a new video about sienna mae only about a week after the last video was posted

@MikasRhetoric

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Thank you, it came up as I was filming so I was able to mention it

@hes228

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@@MikasRhetoric my bad, i commented about halfway through the video! always love your content and how you weave your own studies into it :)

Aquafina is an actress - she played the best friend in Marvel’s Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Seven Rings. She was also the voice of Sisu the dragon in Raya and the Last Dragon

@MikasRhetoric

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The fact that I don’t know any of those movies 😭

@Lunar_Butterfly

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@@MikasRhetoric you’re fine I don’t know so many movies and shows

@peppito8408

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@@MikasRhetoric i don’t know for shang chi but raya flopped pretty hard so it’s not really weird that you don’t know it