I understand the division between people in regards to their view in this case. But I really think the comments on both sides are sad to read because of the hatred on either MJ or Safechuck and Robson. If he is innocent it is devastating that his legacy is being ruined but I personally think that the two men have the right to speak about their relationship to MJ without being publically crucified. Sexual abuse is something that should always be taken seriously no matter the person accused.

@BelovedSamsEtc

3 жыл бұрын

No one is attacking them or dismissing immediately, no one rational anyway. We have studied them and they’re case, and found that they are proven liars, and that all evidence points to his innocence.

@liya-yf9yz

3 жыл бұрын

It's disrespectful to actual victims of sexual abuse. These two men go on shows saying they are not doing this for money yet go ahead and sue mj's estate for 1.5 BILLION dollars without evidence. Yes. NO evidence. It's quite funny how their statements are also contradictory. Every victim has a right to be heard, but in cases like this, it's just obvious character assasination. :( Edit: corrected my grammar ✌️

@godnex211ify

2 жыл бұрын

@@BelovedSamsEtc precisely. Even CBS knows but they are making money off this fraudulous claim

@jeanie1448

2 жыл бұрын

Phillip...excellent comment! I totally agree with you.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

It's in the news that they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

Lie detector test

@zainavlogs3274

4 жыл бұрын

You're so smart fr this would littraly solve everything

@camilaperez7646

4 жыл бұрын

zaina mahmoud well a lie detector test isn’t a 100% accurate

@boredom2022

4 жыл бұрын

@@zainavlogs3274 why wouldn't it

@maranatha8768

4 жыл бұрын

Yes more than one time

@doodoodoo3151

4 жыл бұрын

Lie detector tests don’t prove anything. All they do is monitor things like heart rate and perspiration, not whether what is being said is actually true. Sudden spikes in the information being relayed to the machine can just mean that the person is nervous. As long as you remain calm then you can beat the test.

why can’t they take a lie detector test

@flyinggherkin41

3 жыл бұрын

@Alaska Music because no mj fans do any research they just read KZread comments like yourself

@Jay-407

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Jackson The Guilty Dead Pedophile someone ran their voices through lie detector software. A bit different then them taking a polygraph

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

It's official news - they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Jackson The Guilty Dead Pedophile That link you posted is so BOGUS 😂😂

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Jackson The Guilty Dead Pedophile ...just to demonstrate how bogus - MJ wasn't even AT Neverland in 1984, as you stated in your FBI comment. WHY LIE?? 😄 (Google it before you post at the very least)

Liars

@isaacsutka1600

4 жыл бұрын

He just like sleep with little boys u know like normal adult men

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

lanceflx63 real sex abused victims don’t sound like those two dummies. They can be traumatized for life. These two were making up lies. They never found anything against MJ. Nothing

@amandacanela2241

3 жыл бұрын

They’re not lying they’re telling the truth Michael Jackson did something bad to them 😒

wow I can’t believe how many of micheal jackson’s close personal friends are in the comments right now 🙄 I’m sure you knew him well enough to be able to defend him like this

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

xDD good one.

@Moonwalker1080p

2 жыл бұрын

And i also can't believe that so many of close friends of wade and james are here, defending these fraudsters

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

It’s based on facts, nothing more nothing less.

First to blame are the parents. No child should be left alone with a complete stranger. I grew up loving MJ. Till this day his music is nostalgic, but you cannot trust anyone no matter who they are and what they have accomplished. I was sexually molested as a child and it took me about 30 years to finally say something. I was married almost 15 years before I built the courage to tell my wife. I felt ashamed and embarrassed. I have kids of mine own now and I’m very protective. The psychology damage is real. I think about it all the time. I think, what if it happens to my kids. Your innocence is taken from you and it has long term psychological effects. It’s a sad situation all around. Moral of the story, don’t leave your kids alone with strangers period.

@makalinskis

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they should do it when he was still alive, now they just want to sue for millions of dollars how odd huh, I am sorry what happen to you but, these two a liars and just in for money...

@territmoderitmo9190

4 жыл бұрын

genuine question for you: you said you were molested. would you and could you, keep seeing that person, want to work with that person, date someone related to that person, wanted to engage in same projects with that person, wanted to marry on person's property, praising that person publicly , how that person is the best in the world, begging to get a pass, on that person's funeral... did you, would you do all that, as a survivor?

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

They lied - it's in the news: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

Can someone please explain to me what evidence these guys have besides “graphic detail”?

@ulfemanuel2028

5 жыл бұрын

They have nothing.. They clearly want money

@mahlatsimoroka1500

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Bear none

@tombear2489

5 жыл бұрын

Ulf Emanuel exactly. It’s hilarious how much they’re downplaying the money angle. Robson has literally been trying to mooch off the estate for nearing a decade. - Tried getting a job as a choreographer/director for their Cirque Du Soleil show - Tried shopping a book deal - Tried suing them for a billion dollars. Furthermore the most high profile people from MJs past who were friends with him as kids Corey Feldman (who is an active crusader against pedos), and Macaulay Culkin absolutely deny the allegations. Maybe before we destroy one of America’s most popular legacies outside of Coca Cola and the iPhone we’d get a little due process?

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Bear Can someone please explain to me what evidence Michael Jackson fans have that he didn't have a childhood besides Jackson's claims that he didn't have one?

@tombear2489

5 жыл бұрын

Illustraful 1- Corroboration: everybody in his life that was asked about it confirms it. 2- Literal footage of him performing, recording, and working as a child, teenager, and adult. We have child labor laws, yet somehow a child working in entertainment is completely fine. 3- His claim to not having a childhood is not a serious allegation with consequences hence requiring due process. Dismissal of victims is a serious problem. Belittling rape victims is a serious problem. However, advocating against due process goes against the very fabric of our justice system. Also - unlike this situation - there is no actual reason to be suspect of his claims to not having a childhood. There’s no financial payout or motive, and no real major benefit.

whats so funny they say the security guards made sure the room was locked and everything was secure and private so people wouldn't suspect or know anything when michael was "sexually abusing" them. but when the security guards had an interview, they completely denied everything that was said, and that michael had never locked little kids in rooms with him. anyway, what type of security guard would let a child be alone in a room with a grown adult. its just do disgusting that people have accused michael of this bs. and no, the reason that they both came out with these allegations now is not because they have children of their own, its because michael is dead, and he doesnt have a voice to defend or speak for himself. its just unbelievable that people try to still put dirt on his name even after he died. please just let this pure innocent man rest in peace, he was hurting and had so much pain in his life that he couldnt sleep for 5 minutes! He loved being around children because as a kid he wasn't allowed to act his age. he didnt want kids to experience that themselves so thats why they were always invited to neverland to enjoy themselves and not feel like they have to grow up so fast. michael just wanted to live the experience he never had-- being a child. he could relate to kids and hang out with kids because they wouldn't be two faced, or use him for money or anything. they would be with michael to just have a good time and be a kid. its dissapointing that people are accusing this king of complete nonsense. rest peacfully man, i really hope you understand there are people out there who support you and dont believe these silly lies.

They are comfortable in this interview because they know that Gayle is on their side and she won't ask unprepared and tough questions.

@carolinagonzalezs.

5 жыл бұрын

But when they going to be cross-examined by a defense lawyer, they are going poop in their pants.

@michellelewis9519

5 жыл бұрын

Suss H I would be on there side if the parent would not sue for money I would want him put away

@tcochran42

5 жыл бұрын

Carolina Gonzalez S., I would love to see them cross examined. Chile. . .

@boredom2022

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously

@asankagurusinghe6128

2 күн бұрын

@@carolinagonzalezs. They never will be. No criminal trial because he's dead.

When your small as a kid you don't realize what the consequences are . My father sexually molested me and never did I want my mother to find out. I felt shameful and scared I thought my mom would be upset. She would be out working to try and put food on the table. After they separated I still didn't say anything. Up until I got older that's when I finally spoke out. She took matters into her hands. Never did she question if I was lying or making up stories. She seeked justice and put my father behind bars. Just hearing stories like these remind me of my childhood. When you hear about strangers and to stay away from them you don't come to think that inside your own home a stranger already lives.

@BelovedSamsEtc

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry that happened to you, but you really need to study this specific case. You’ll see just how inconsistent their stories are.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

According to the news - they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

@aldenunion

2 жыл бұрын

The entire point is trying to jump in with people who TRULY endured abuse,so anyone doubting is bad or just does not understand. AS SOON as "Mr Eye Brow" said "He said Squeeze my Nipples", RED FLAGS went up .. Michael Jackson sure endured issues,wanting to be beyond reproach as a global voice like Diana Ross or liz Taylor,he was not coming from that sexual piggish direction. Had they said he was doing it from a loving standpoint,then I may have believed them. The guy felt he could have no love, would not have been from that perspective..(Squeeze my Nipples). He was from a parental direction. He probably could not understand why he could not enjoy children from a Grandpa typed relationship without being "Suspected". The Aussie saw reality of life,that he had no real talent trying to now jump onto another bandwagon for money. Safechuck did the same once he saw Robson's lead. Both talent less losers,stealing from American Black culture. Our Black Culture has been ignored enough and building a positive history was important,and MJ knew he had the entire world upon his shoulders. He did not do it. I know behavioral science experts who picked these two apart easily as liars,but I already seen through it.. The perfect money grab here,stealing from a culture who did not deserve it again stolen.

Can someone please explain why so many people are so blindly devoted to keeping Jackson's legacy unblemished? This reminds me of Catholic Church apologists, yet Jackson is not the father of a religion. I cannot understand the blind loyalty; and yes I grew up listening to Jackson's music.

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Carey, its like some mass denial ritual :D SCARY.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

Um, it’s because the facts don’t support their claims. It’s about justice, not blind worship.

@USER-um6bi

Жыл бұрын

You blindly follow the media and don‘t question anything. yeah you grew up with his art but u never looked deeper into his life.

@asankagurusinghe6128

2 күн бұрын

He's got the evidence on his side. It's so sad that a guy who went out of his way to help others is being vilified. We're sick as a society to be doing this.

More like fatherhood made them relsise they need more cash

@applehead_gang

5 жыл бұрын

got more mouths to feed lol

@peterdink5823

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. As soon as they got broke and where fired from there job. They fill a lawsuit against his estate. This is obviously about money. They are sick

@almizzle1973

5 жыл бұрын

lmao!! this made my day!!

@valeriacortez7003

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@dianabeurman364

5 жыл бұрын

THATS IT! FATHERHOOD AND BEING BROKE , HE WANTS MONEY FOR FAMILY!

Not even their sentences make sense💀😂😂

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Kayli Bravo I honestly feel bad for what MJ went through based on those lies those two made. He said they locked him up in a bathroom and they dislocated his shoulder and bruised his arm while being detained. The police raided his home and destroyed much of his property only to find zero evidence of anything that indicate he was a pedophile. He was proven innocent in the court of law and in an interview he told the stupid lady reporter. There was nothing. Even when she continued her yapping. There was other kids who came clean and said MJ never showed signs not touched them in appropriately nor anything. He was kind and loving and morally sane. On the same token he was always in the public eye and couldn’t even find it in himself to act in such a way with children to whom he cared about so much that he put so much time energy and effort to help children around the world who were less fortunate. It was the money and fame of MJ and his humility that got the worse of him and the media took advantage of that. 😡 they attacked him left and right and MJ was fed up with the lies and the industry he worked for that he tried to expose them. The real pedophiles run Hollywood. They hide in the shadows and with their influence they can bring anyone down as they did with MJ. Michael is innocent 100%!

Gayle shouldn't have done either interviews. She was so biased and already formed opinions on it. The interviewer should be someone who is objective and she is not

@jorgegustavoortiz7717

5 жыл бұрын

Oprah had already condemn MJ long before he was dead and long before the kids parents accepted they did it for money. But as a public figure she was forced to look and sound politically correct by criticizing him... Hypocrite!!!

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Stop defending that white woman with the pixie nose held together by tape.

@sussh9635

5 жыл бұрын

@@jorgegustavoortiz7717 Oprah is going to do an one hour interview with these two ugly souls. My respect for her is gone.

@gerrywi92

5 жыл бұрын

Oprah and Gayle were watching the mockumentary on the yacht of an alleged pedophile, David Geffen. They question a dead black man but not the white men that are alive.

@jorgegustavoortiz7717

5 жыл бұрын

@@gerrywi92 exactly... 😉

Schmuck : "I'm old enough now to fight for myself." You weren't old enough when MJ was alive? You were like 30 when he died. 20-30 is not old enough to fight for yourself, huh?

@juicesnap

5 жыл бұрын

It is found that victims of abuse can repress memories and be in denial for years/decades after the abuse has occurred. It takes alot of therapy, courage, and time for people to feel safe to come forward.

@tcochran42

5 жыл бұрын

juicesnap, that's true but his story is so tainted. Let the man Rest In Peace.

@sussh9635

5 жыл бұрын

@@juicesnap But he contradict himself. He says, "I'm coming out now because I'm old enough to fight for myself." Later he says, "If MJ was still alive I might have taking it to my grave." So if MJ was still alive today then he wouldn't have been be old enough to fight for himself?

@roxanneworld11

5 жыл бұрын

first, you make no sense..second, you need to work on your listening *comprehension* skills because he was talking about when he was a kid. that's when he would have been too young to stand up for himself..not that i believe wade..and not that i think other accusers are all lying..but it's understood in common parlance that when people say what wade said that they're talking about *when they were a child.* ...once again, just smdh at far too many KZreadrs and the lack of their ability to comprehend nuance and context when someone is talking...just...wow.

@roxanneworld11

5 жыл бұрын

@@juicesnap they didn't repress any memories, in this case (if they're being truthful), so that's irrelevant..why in the world, after watching and supposedly *listening* did you come away from the video believing that??

Can Anybody Please Just Stop And Listen To These 2 People, Michael Jackson Slept With Hundreds Of Young Boys In His Bed, And You People Find That Normal?????

they're so full of it.... if it was really about "fighting for their younger selves" they wouldn't be asking for millions in compensation. they would just go public. its ALL about the money... these two just don't want to work, they'd rather sit at home and collect a check

After everything coming to light these days I knew this was coming. I think it’s something worth looking into, and if they’re liars that will come out also.

@ufwwnma

3 жыл бұрын

@David Kafai No they're not. They're liars trying to get money.

@halochannel1754

3 жыл бұрын

@@ufwwnma totally agree with you .😀

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

@David Kafaji It's official news - they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

Bad actors. They want money so bad

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Victims of Catholic priests also sue for compensation. Are they lying too?

@freddiegrace3770

5 жыл бұрын

Have you ever seen Michael Jackson hanging around with a group of men? NO! He only had small boys as his "friends"! He has no credibility, and they are just trying to tell their TRUE story! If they get money so what! They deserve it!

@tcochran42

5 жыл бұрын

Freddie Grace, Steve Harvey, Chris Tucker to name a few. Just because he was childlike doesn't make him a molester.

@tcochran42

5 жыл бұрын

Illustraful, did they wait until the priests were dead and sue a billion dollar estate? GTFOH leave that dead man alone.

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Watch The Keepers, fantard.

Bear in mind that there was sexual abuse and control in MJ's family. This is a strong indicator of MJ's learned mindset. Pictures were found in MJ's flat of his nephews in their underwear. There's a repressed pedophilia in that at least. The idea that he was left alone with boys in his bed, well this is no repression of interest: it is manufacturing opportunity. It must have occurred to him that allegations could occur, and these could have ruined his image and career. So there must have been a powerful drive in him (such as a sexual one) to overpower this fear. Finally, I can see in James Safechuck's eyes that he is conflicted about talking about it. There have been too many abuse allegations against MJ, not all of which have any hope of gaining a financial advantage, that I think there must be substance in them. A creative genius of the entertainment world, but a disconnected one.

@Moonwalker1080p

2 жыл бұрын

And i have ACTUAL FACTS to prove that wade and james are liars

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

They found pictures of a photoshoot they did together for a magazine cover…

@asankagurusinghe6128

2 күн бұрын

bs bruv

They're not liars. I believe them. They have nothing to gain by this. Them lying to cover stuff in the past, doesn't negate their feelings and their story right now.

@startracker5895

2 жыл бұрын

Erm they’re hoping to get money from it! 🙄

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

They sued his estate for 1.5 billion dollars and have made for-profit businesses out of their claims. It’s all Wade does now.

@asankagurusinghe6128

2 күн бұрын

Nothing to gain but the hundreds of millions they are claiming in court.

Leave Mj alone. Let him rest in peace. This is ridiculous.

@SC-pf6bi

5 жыл бұрын

He should not rest in peace when he molested children

@laniwilliamson

5 жыл бұрын

Rhonda Strait Why ?? Is Micheal Jackson a god ?

@carolinagonzalezs.

5 жыл бұрын

@@laniwilliamson He's an innocent man.

@rhondastrait2982

5 жыл бұрын

He is not a God but he is not here to defend himself any longer. Is this fair?

@GinoHallII

5 жыл бұрын

SARAH CHAMP no he didn’t

Something smells like Do Do. Greed at the highest level. They should feel guilty for the BS.

Like what Dave Chappelle said, "I thought one of you was supposed to die of cancer & only had a few weeks to live?" LOL.. What happened there?

The fact that many on here doubt these two men calling them liars makes me believe them even more so. Just because Michael Jackson was a genius and extremely talented doesn’t negate the fact that he could have abused many children.

@peterdink5823

5 жыл бұрын

No. People are calling them liars because they have lied multiply times making them have close to no credibility. They even lied in there own lawsuite they made some years ago which was dissmised. The judge even said that both of them contradicted themselves and lies so much. There is lots to this story. I suggest you do some research.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

According to the news - they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

@jamielehman4934

Жыл бұрын

Corey Feldman has a reputation for outing ppl who abused him or his friends. Feldman said, himself that Michael never touched him. If Michael was an abuser there's no way Corey Feldman would protect him

@TheMysticGod1587

Жыл бұрын

This aged poorly

@popsyturvee5112

Жыл бұрын

I believe both of the accusers. While I love Michael’s music, while I think he’s a genius and an icon. You can’t deny the fact that Michael has been creepy one too many times. Let’s all admit that we have been weirded out by his behavior over the years. Remember that interview with Bashir where he was being affectionate with this boy who had cancer and he admitted that he was sharing his bed with him? Umm strange for a grown man sharing his bed with a 12-13 year old. If you have seen the documentary which I recently have, these two accusers never really thought what happened was an abuse until they had a child of their own. They never really thought that the bond they had with Michael was abusive because Michael was caring and gentle to them but at the same time Michael molested them as a child. They were manipulated into thinking that the sexual things done to them by Michael and all the things he taught them was done out of love and they were led to believe that that was what people who love each other do. Wade loved Michael back and that’s why all through out the deposition case Wade defended Michael. It wasn’t only until he had a son where he realized it was all part of what grooming is.

Stop giving these lying bums attention. They shouldn’t even feel comfortable walking around in public.

@Jacki79

5 жыл бұрын

Stop calling God a liar. You need to repent, you're evil for even thinking you can judge these victims when you yourself are living in will full, selfishness/sin

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

That's the love and compassion of Michael Jackson fans right there, inciting violence against his accusers. Cyndi is the archetypal fantard.

@rajkumartiwary8872

5 жыл бұрын

@@Illustraful and your a mindfucked fan of extortionist.

@jkmdemon

5 жыл бұрын

Wtf? With this guys 🤣🤣🤣 illustraful it’s just a hater that leaves mean coments with no objective but “he was a pedophile” and then the creep Jackie Prive that mix god and the devil in all the comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣 “we are the devil” pal you sound like the mother of Carrie, let me guess you read the tabloids don’t you? Oh even better you saw the documentary, oh my god first of all leave the religion out of this or people are gonna make even more fun of you, second of all if you have you’re proofs that goes beyond the shity media’s please go to the fbi and present them, and of course all the victims of the monster Jackson, why don’t you contact them, right... there all out there for money, try to remember that the media’s and tabloids destroyed Jackson without provoke even before the pedophile gossip

@borednerd2100

5 жыл бұрын

Are you seriously inciting violence on two individuals who may have victims of child abuse just beacause they're insulting the memory of a deceased popstar who wasn't and wouldn't ba aware of your mere existence??.. Wow..

I watched 'Leaving Neverland' last night and I must say it’s very compelling. Let me just be honest that I approached this documentary with a preconception of the accusers being “liars.” After watching the entire 2 parts, I’m not too sure now. Here’s my thoughts and perspective.. Michael was severely abused as a child by his father, physically, mentally, emotionally and according to LaToya Jackson, sexually too. (kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4GHrbGonLPedbA.html) Abuse is a vicious cycle. He didn’t have a childhood, no sense of what it was like to experience the innocence of playing, being a child, free from responsibility etc.. (This raises alarms kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2F2uZaDeNC2m5c.html). Over the years, I’ve looked into something called trauma based mind control, this is when the mind has a defense mechanism which compartmentalises the memory of extreme trauma (such as sexual abuse from either a parent or family member). This is why people cannot remember serious road accidents. Their mind creates an amnesiac barrier around the event so they don’t have to keep reliving such horrible memories. Once the mind’s unity has been shattered, these various compartments, each unaware of the other’s existence, can be programmed for various tasks or experiences. Using trigger words and hypnotic keys, sounds, or signals, these compartments can be pulled forward and pushed back like a mental filing cabinet. One self contained compartment or fragment of mind becomes the person’s conscious level and it is then returned to the subconscious and another compartment accessed. This means that after the victim has performed a task they forget what they have done and who with. This condition has become known as Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) or Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). The latter is more accurate because the compartments are not ‘personalities’ as such, they are fragments of mind which have disassociated, become detached from, the rest of the consciousness. So my point is, what if Michael had MPD? From all the traumatic abuse he experienced growing up? And then projected it out onto young ‘selected’ boys? Ok, so why didn’t the accusers tell the truth before? They claim to have loved Michael and wanted to protect him from going to jail, Michael threatened them to keep quiet, otherwise they will both end up in jail too. There is something called “Stockholm syndrome” - the dictionary defines this as: “feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.” Also, the fact that they didn’t want to tell the truth is very typical in child abuse victims around the world, they don’t want to admit that what they experienced is wrong (cognitive dissonance), a sense of self-denial comes to fruition with these type of cases. The developing child brain is different than that of adults, and things that may immediately seem wrong to you or I can just be confusing to a child, and when they grow up it's difficult to integrate that. How do we know for sure what happens behind closed doors? Why would any grown man want to sleep with other people’s children. For me, I would NEVER allow a stranger, no matter how rich and famous he was, to sleep with my daughter, period! The mother’s victims claimed they were groomed by Michael for many years and fell into the trap of the fantasy world, who felt sorry for Michael for missing out on his childhood and wanted to share their child with them. I just recently found out that Michael installed a system in the hallway at the Neverland house that leads to his bedroom, to make bell sounds in his room, to alert him whenever someone was walking towards his bedroom. FACT: These men were not paid for the documentary and are fully aware that no public testimony now guarantees monetary retribution from the Jackson estate. Jason, one of the accusers, looks totally damaged, traumatised and broken, you can see it in his body language and eyes. If you haven’t watched the entire 2 parts, you cannot have a balanced understanding of how the abuse was perceived by them. Indeed, They didn’t perceive it as being abuse at the time. It is just hard to accept that the figures we admire could be capable of such heartlessness acts, it is a reminder to us that people are not always who they seem. We also have to be aware that the persona projected via their music could be VERY different to the persona of their inner self and what happens at home, in other words, the perception programming is so deep that it can cloud our judgement. Remember what happened when the truth came out about Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter? the whole world and particularly the nation of the UK were in total shock, who could not come to understand why they did those things, for many years they got away with it. The extend of the abuse, the cover up, and many of his victims came out after his death, because he was just too powerful and they were too afraid. There were just so many that came out - it just couldn't be disputed anymore. Do I believe these accusers? I’m keeping an open mind, I can’t condemn Michael without him being here to be able to defend himself, but it has made me realise that we should look at victims of sexual abuse from a different perspective.

@YTAishok

5 жыл бұрын

His name is James "Jimmy", not Jason. But, you are right with your comment.

@naz0079

5 жыл бұрын

​@@YTAishok kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqGhudGIYtHKYrw.html Just seen this documentary. It's the BEST one I've come across on KZread based on facts. There's so many inconsistencies in Leaving Neverland: 1) Jimmy says Michael invited him to go to Euro Disney in Paris in 1988, but it was officially open in 1993 2) all the boys that wade said Michael abused, those boys including Brett Barnes said Michael didn't do any harm on him and they're lying. 3) Jimmy's mother said she was happy the day Michael died in 2009, but Jimmy started confessing during therapy in 2013 4) Wade's wife said she never had any Knowledge of sexual abuse but on their sexual abuse fund page it clearly says she was a victim of abuse 5) wade was in a relationship with Michael's neice for 7 years, but wade said Michael encouraged him to hate women. It was Michael who connected them both together And there's more inconsistencies with "Leaving Neverland."

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Narinder wade is a liar and real abuse victims have a different behavioral pattern and honestly I can see that those two don’t suffer any trauma at all. Their stories changed a lot. They looked at each other as if trying to agree with their lies. MJ is innocent 100% in my mind I don’t care what you and the rest of liars have to say.

@75marklee

4 жыл бұрын

Narinder I can understand after watching the doc how u could feel it’s possible they are telling the truth. But the fact remains just with these two alone if u examine them under a microscope they don’t hold up as credible witnesses If u do a google search on wades testimony as an adult in the 2005 trial and read the examination and cross examination under Thomas Mesereau and Ron Zonin a very seasoned prosecutor on sexual abuse u can see how many times and in divers ways he was asked if and how he was molested. Wade did not Waver in his defense of MJ. Even up till about 2012 he was defending MJ. Then just after 2012 Wade was removed as lead choreographer on the cirque du soleil show by the MJ estate. This is about the time when Wade started his allegations. I have heard 2 explanations from Wade explaining his previous testimony in 2005. 1) he didn’t understand the concept of abuse 2) he lied because he was in love with Michael and as a qualification he was scared he would have been in trouble. But at 22 one still thinks this ? He and Safechuck are suing for close to a billion. Having lost the cirque du soleil show and coincidentally coming out with these new allegations is suspicious in the very least. Watching the doc is an emotional experience but remember even though Dan Reed would have u believe there is a “ mass of new evidence” as he stated in an interview with Good Morning Britain he knows there is none except the testimony of these 2 new witnesses He spoke about only soiled underwear in about 2 seconds and I think he is referring to the testimony of MJs former maid Adrian McManus But if u watch her interview on 60 minutes Australia she seems easily discredited. She was confronted on that very show about her conflicting testimony from 1993 compared to her 2005 testimony Her motivation ? Possibly because she was caught stealing from MJ and was terminated She tried to file a wrongful termination lawsuit against MJ and lost She up to this point was ordered to pay up to million dollars in court fees back to MJs estate as well as about 30k for theft. And she admitted when asked in that 60 minute interview about the money she owes that she has not paid back a dime. I think if u examine all the accusers from 1993 , 2005 and these 2 today that they were/are hardly credible and would b thrown out of any court of law. If u want specific links for these sources I can provide them if u need Another good objective read are the Wikipedia articles on the 1993 case and 2005 cases. Keep in mind The documentary is counting on appealing to your emotions and not your logical mind and they are counting on ppl not doing any research. Peace ✌️

@ffsbshxhs402

4 жыл бұрын

@@nsr5961 shut up mj fan

A few hundred million dollars in their bank accounts will go a long way toward helping them heal their damage I bet.

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

trini money mongers

@sillysillyputty8723

4 жыл бұрын

gotta do something to make a dent in that POS's "legacy."

I’m on the fence but I find Safechuck way more believable than Wade.

@ninahagen8193

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, Wade is after the Money! But Safechuck... I think he is hurt by Michael. He had such a close relationship with MJ but MJ also had so many other Kids around him. I think he felt kind of betrayed.

@wyldflwr

5 жыл бұрын

Wade said in one interview that he didn't realize what happened was molestation, but then he said he was in love with him and didn't want to hurt him. That he wanted to protect him. Which is it? Those are 2 completely different reasons as to why, as an adult, he testified on Michael's behalf at the criminal trial. As to when he knew Michael molested him, it was when he was holding his son and imagining him being molested. Wtf would you be thinking about your 1 year old son like that? Who imagines their child being molested? I've been molested when I was 6 yeard old and I NEVER wanted to even think about someone hurting my babies. Something just doesn't add up with their stories. It's like they and their parents used MJ back then for what they could get and now, as adults and MJ's gone, they are still using him but the way they are doing it is different.

@aubriannagutierrez9333

5 жыл бұрын

Wade is *shelving* his emotions like MJ told him too so many times. If you actually understand body language you can see this is difficult for him to talk about... you can tell he loved MJ and that this has been SO hard to confront in his life.

@tarao7224

5 жыл бұрын

aubrianna gutierrez Both of them are proven liars going by their lawsuits and deposition. Hence why I’m sceptical about anything they say.

@LibertarianLatina

5 жыл бұрын

Watch the documentary You won’t be on the fence

The truth is rarely pure and never simple. - Oscar Wilde

@laurencewhite4809

3 жыл бұрын

The truth is nobody believes an adult man would invite multiple pre pubescent boys into his bedroom for innocent reasons. He is not Peter Pan, he is not a kid, he is an adult man with adult responsibilities.

@donpercent

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurencewhite4809 Even if he was innocent he shouldn't have done that. Playing is one thing, but sleeping for a month with 1 boy (NEVER any girls)? Even someone who is not suspicious would think there can be something wrong with this guy. And people who say he was innocent for sure are very ignorant and very stupid.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

@@laurencewhite4809 In my opinion, your perspective is a result of the Jackson propaganda. Perfect example - he never invited any boys into his bedroom. But decades of spin & salacious scandal have resulted in that false belief/assumption.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

​@@donpercent Well, according to the news - these guys lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html ...and according to Tom Mesereau, everyone slept in Jackson's room - girls, boys, mothers, parents - everyone. It's funny how from one false allegation, the propaganda leads to _"sleeping for a month with 1 boy (NEVER any girls)?"_ Tom Mesereau: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5Vpr66uXZbPo84.html ...2 more clips - one of the 1993 accuser's own lawyer stating they could have pursued criminal conviction, after civil ($$$) settlement (but CHOSE not to): kzread.info/dash/bejne/fISVzcqpYpfWfpc.html ...that clip either exposes Dan Reed's (genuine) ignorance, which would mean he was completely incompetent when it came to researching his own documentary subjects/material (a basic google search), OR he knew full well that the facts pointed to major conspiracy & Jackson's innocence, and deliberately CHOSE to perpetuate the negative propaganda. The reason people say Jackson is innocent, is because there is irrefutable evidence supporting it - 2/3 of those clips above being perfect examples. The only ignorant and stupid people out here are Dan Reed & Wade/James for pushing demonstrably false allegations, and getting caught. It turns out Wade may actually be the alleged pedophile! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mohqlrSdhLSemqw.html 👀 ...no wonder why Dan didn't want to include Brandi Jackson in the 'documentary'.

Absolute nonsense. These two men are proven liars. This is all for money. Sad.

@SC-pf6bi

5 жыл бұрын

If Michael Jackson was innocent why pay 22 million dollars ?

@KennyBucketz

5 жыл бұрын

SARAH CHAMP if Michael Jackson was guilty, why would the kid’s parents accept 22 million dollars instead of pursuing a trial which could send the person they say raped their kid to prison, not being able to rape any more kids? That’s more telling.

@Amit_l92

5 жыл бұрын

SARAH CHAMP He had enough and wanted to carry on with his life and career. Remember the settlement didn’t stop Chandler from testifying in a future criminal trial. He refused to do so in 2005. Also 2 grand juries refused to indict Jackson in 93 because the case was so weak. The whole thing was a extortion attempt.

@minaolenella869

5 жыл бұрын

@@SC-pf6bi Because he wanted to win in an actual criminal court, but after they got their money, they refused to testify.

@missliberty10

5 жыл бұрын

@@KennyBucketz it is

I believe these two. There was ALWAYS something ODD about Jackson "sleeping with little boys" and calling it an innocent act. REALLY? The connotation alone should render substantial suspicion. These two men were quite compelling and credible. Obviously the Jackson family will object and deny any such allegations existed to protect their name and brand but they weren't the one's in that bed "sleeping" with Michael.

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@BelovedSamsEtc

3 жыл бұрын

It was never just boys, it was everyone.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

...who slept with Michael?? Which boys?.. (I mean I know about Lisa Presley - but boys??) kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

Numerous children who stayed with him said no abuse happened, so it’s abundantly clear he was capable of it without molesting them.

@KnowTrentTimoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChokeslamToHell Obviously Mikey was selective. I mean, think about it. Most people want to have sex with ATTRACTIVE individuals NOT Unattractive individuals.

" I started to have visions" really? Haha

@masonwright7700

4 жыл бұрын

Michèle S atheist spotted

@salutsalut8272

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2hllNGLm5vKpc4.html

I believe them. I'm not saying 100% and we should ask questions but we can' t just blow this off because we all loved Michael Jackson and his music. Child sex abuse victims often take a very long time to come forward with their stories.

@az4427

5 жыл бұрын

@Lizzie Allen What does that mean? What are they doing wrong?

@denna56

4 жыл бұрын

Leaving Neverland is a big scam aimed to manipulate people to get money in their pockets.

Every interview I have seen them do, they have behaved, exactly the same, the hand gestures, facial expressions and the answers they give. It is so well rehearsed. It sounds like they have done their research, on how survivors behave while they’re being abused, and also the behaviours of when they’re older, because it does not sound natural, it sounds scripted.

@Moonwalker1080p

2 жыл бұрын

These idiots can't even stick to a script lmfao 💀 wade has like 3-4 different versions and james has like 2-3 🤣

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and if you look at Robson when he first started making claims in 2013, his behavior is VERY different. Back then it was monotone and matter of fact. It’s clear he rehearsed.

Those are LIES!! Michael was a kind and innocent soul and he would never sexually abuse a child in any way. In the words of Jermaine, let the man rest. They should be ashamed of themselves for what they're doing.

@gollycom

5 жыл бұрын

They should be hanged in public. 💀💀

@Simplejackfade

3 жыл бұрын

You’re naive if you really think that.

@tootie6944

3 жыл бұрын

stop denying the fact that he wasn’t perfect. all of these allegations and yall still think he was innocent?

@Moonwalker1080p

2 жыл бұрын

@@tootie6944 yes, i believe MJ, he was a victim of extortion

@USER-um6bi

Жыл бұрын

@@tootie6944Bro what!? The first accusing was a straight up lie (Jordans father killed himself after proven not guilty), La toya lied about her brother too bc of her toxic husband, in the second case he was proven not guilty + the fbi monitored him for 13 years and 2 raids were made but they found NOTHING… Ik you find it hard to accept but MJ‘s life was different than yours and you shouldn‘t judge him just bc of some accusers with odd historys

It's true. As a parent you realize what's at stake.

Galey King is so beautiful and professional. I love her.

@user-dw6fz4du1m

5 жыл бұрын

yeah she's really great! i didn't have much knowledge of her until recently but her composure during the r kelly interview was so admirable and she conducts herself really well. she's a good, empathetic interviewer and she can be tough when she needs to be.

I believe them. These men aren’t seeking money so something happened. I remember a few years after Michael died that 24 people came out and said they were abused too.

Why are the News Giving This So Much Air Time. It's All About The Money.

@gogurterz9462

5 жыл бұрын

leicanoct Michael is an angel

@Mr.GameCrazy

5 жыл бұрын

Negativity sells. :(

@charlettewilliams736

5 жыл бұрын

@leicanoct You Don't Know That Just Like I Don't Know It.

@charlettewilliams736

5 жыл бұрын

@leicanoct Not Mines But Yours That's Why It's Called My Opinion Thank You Very Much

@charlettewilliams736

5 жыл бұрын

@REGIMENT65 No

Lies run sprints but the truth will run marathons -Michael Jackson This means the truth will always prevail

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Soilder of L. O. V. E forever agree 100%!

These two are opportunistic and lie.

@davidgobrain497

5 жыл бұрын

You two are hungry lying Hypocrites and Opportunist and you this stupid little journalist trying to sale your stupid fake News your all are Trifling Dumb people that's why Trump call you people fake! news I don't blame any of you it's MJ that I blame for surrounding himself with Evil White people because he was supposed to know himself that is digging is grave more than Six feet below the ground and I don't know what the so called MJ Family is waiting for before they will drag this two most ungrateful Opportunist to light detective texts Look Steve show is there Murry show is there take them there because I know they are going to feal the Test!!

@clipclop7962

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidgobrain497 David Gobrain. Hey, easy with the "Evil White people". Don't forget it was Conrad Murray, a black man, who ultimately killed MJ. I'm white and have been a fan my entire life. I agree with your points, but easy on the racial hate.

Not necessarily unbelievable, just very very odd. However, I do believe this is a horrible situation whether or not it is true. If it is, no one seems to be being helped other than these two men being strangely validated. If it is not true they have certainly found a way to make the story unfalsifiable by very vague statements being made against someone who is not here to defend himself. True or not, no good can come of this whole ordeal

@peterdink5823

5 жыл бұрын

They are lying. They are seeking a lawsuit for money. Wade was even found out to be lying in his own lawsuit

@huheeje

5 жыл бұрын

The good thing is people might actually learn what real abuse actually looks like. The mj legacy doesn't really matter to me, but understanding the relationship between abuser and abused is a very good thing.

@huheeje

5 жыл бұрын

And I don't find it odd at all. The way this had unfolded over the years is very typical for abuse cases.

@mihaelatoto8630

5 жыл бұрын

True.

@celticfreckles392

5 жыл бұрын

@@peterdink5823 first of all, everyone always knew MJ was a child perv because normal adult men don't build child-grooming wonderlands and then have sleep overs with 7 year olds. Secondly, don't you think that these young men felt some shame and guilt for participating in what they probably knew in their hearts was wrong while gaining something at the same time?

Two guys with no financial interest, but than try to sue MJ estate. Have been caught lying before and why will this time be any diffrent?

4 of his victims have now come forward with disarmingly similar stories. I believe the victims. Also, spare me the wade robson “did this terrible thing” etc etc argument. No matter what Robson did post michaels death that is deemed as terrible, does not mean he wasn’t abused.

@peterdink5823

5 жыл бұрын

The first accusers story has been public record and anyone can Google that story. So it makes sense that they would take from it. Also they are not even that similiar. Plus the father who accused him in 93 is on tape talking about extorting money out of MJ by making false allegations. So the first one has already been confirmed as false

@adambosse

5 жыл бұрын

Peter Dink this is the most profoundly stupid defense I’ve read.

@peterdink5823

5 жыл бұрын

@@adambosse well the tape exist. Debunking the first accusations as completely false. And the second one was a family who had a history of falsely accusing others and companies for a living. So there is that..

@davidgobrain497

5 жыл бұрын

@Adam bosse You are as Trifling as this two Ungrateful Hungry Hypocrites who wants to make a leaving from a dead man and who wants to make a future from the past! And this is so unfortunate! And Adam let me ask you a question all the hole accusations that put on MJ wich of has ever found guilty or you mean to tell me that American police FBI CIA all the investigators and prosecutors who have worked on this case are are not longer intelligent enough to found out the truth? You know what I don't blame anybody is MJ that I blamed who other people over his Family is closed minded with his family is what lead him to his untimely death and this is a big lesson to all black men in America and MJ supposed to know himself that White men are Evil!! MJ Familys and his present so call adopted White Children are the biggest disappointment all this bunch of people Can't tell me they don't know or they haven't had anything about Steve and Murry show drag them there let them take a light detective Test!! Or is Paris and Prince Jackson are not old enough to know this? Stupid!!

@cfluff6716

5 жыл бұрын

David Gobrain lets just assume MJ resurrected tomorrow and continued his habits. Would you send your young son over to spend weeks at a time with MJ unsupervised? And why do I have to specify that your boy child be offered up? Because there damn sure wasn’t any girl children this man wanted to share his bed with. It’s called a preference people. Wake up and take off the fame colored glasses.

I think the two accusers should have their backrounds put on blast! And let the public know just what sort of characters we are dealing with here..

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Pazz complete liars

@morganmiami

3 жыл бұрын

and there backrounds will prove that they were not raped ???

@BelovedSamsEtc

3 жыл бұрын

Morgan Yes, they are proven liars, they should not be believed in any way.

@Paryasafaee

3 жыл бұрын

@@BelovedSamsEtc your logic makes no sense.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

@@morganmiami backgrounds pertaining to their accusations, yes.

OMG just read the body language they're looking for each other to make sure they're telling the right story it feels like if jussie smollet told his interview with someone else

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Talking of body language, it's interesting that every time Jackson was asked about child abuse allegations in the 1996 deposition, he smirks and laughs.

@beenjones6684

5 жыл бұрын

That's fallacy

@beenjones6684

5 жыл бұрын

And when the children tried to say Michael slept in the bed with them he said he slept on the floor

@beenjones6684

5 жыл бұрын

With no hesitation I might add

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson to Martin Bashir: "I have slept in the bed with many children."

This is the least believable segment and most unprofessional. Gayle saying how fragile they looked. How fragile was Michael during that harrowing court case? How did that ruthless prosecutor who searched for TWO years and turned Neverland upside down not find credible evidence and witnesses from the mileu of 'knowing' staff? Gayle did not ask what specific interaction these two have recently had with the MJ estate. Instead she asks a redundant question on financial motivation. Gayle bias here is so different from her frequent support of Charlie Rose.

@Flashkid-xw2iv

2 жыл бұрын

Oprah and Gayle are Oreos who can care less about people, just the money

@asankagurusinghe6128

2 күн бұрын

FBI tapped his phone for years. Found nothing.

I don't understand what the heck Wade is talking about..it makes no sense as to know definitely that he was molested by Michael

@Jacki79

5 жыл бұрын

You would have to come from a perspective of an adult who was sexually abused as a child to really even begin to understand, I was and I completely understand what he is saying because I went thru the exact same thing as a child by adults in the entertainment biz too. MJ had power, to silence him on various deep levels phycologically, it wasn't until they became father's that they understood the depth of the destruction that being molested by MJ caused. It's like the child's mind and heart doing a coping/survival mechanism, to try and deny and even pretend it didn't happen because it's extremely traumatic to experience on a child let alone an adult. The mind and heart are made to endure much turmoil, but sometimes that includes shut out memories or denying the depth of the trauma to even be able to wake up each day, I know because I endured this too and when I became a mother myself, I also understand the depth of the evil that was done to me as a child and it made me see it wasn't my fault and that I had a right to speak about the evil to others with the motive to protect other children and to heal. The mind and heart are very powerful tools, even as children the mind can learn to dismiss things and not understand the trauma being done while in the moment and for years past, not until a person actually sees the revelations of the evil that was done to them, then the victim can begin to heal. I'm speaking from experience, of having endured horrific abuse and I recognize and see these same things in these men who are still healing. Any real professional would have this same discernment and agree

@minaolenella869

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jacki79 Wade and his family were witnesses in 2005 trial when he was over 25, multi-millionaire, and Jackson was no way in the position of power. They all said that Jackson was absolutely not a pedophile. 4 years later he wanted to get a job with MJ estate. Something no victim would do. And when they refused him, and his career was over, because he slept with Brittney Spears, he suddenly "remembered" he was molested by MJ. Please, do not belittle actual victims by this BS

@wayfaringstranger4362

5 жыл бұрын

Jackie Price so would u have ever defended your abusers, If another kid say they did that to them? if the police got involved and things went that far... would U defend them over and over again?

I don't buy it.

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Jackson was a child raping freak.

@geniusgeneral02

5 жыл бұрын

Illustraful one of the guys literally defended him at court

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Fred and Rose West were serial killers in Britain who also raped and tortured their own children. When two of the daughters had the opportunity to testify in court about the abuse, they refused, and the Wests continued their reign of terror for several more years until they were finally arrested. Women who suffer domestic violence often testify in defence of their violent husbands because they've been brainwashed into believing their husband loves them. Victims of Catholic priests often don't speak out until many years after the abuse. But you think it's a-OK that a middle aged man slept in the same bed as little boys not related to him and that all his accusers are liars.

@cai8984

5 жыл бұрын

Illustraful he didn’t sleep in the same bed with children. He slept on the floor. Get your facts straight. Do some research and make an unbiased statement because the truth is, Michael Jackson has been investigated for many years and they found no concrete evidence to say he was a child molester.

@Illustraful

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson to Martin Bashir: "I have slept in the bed with many children."

More like "guilt for telling lies about Michael Jackson" 🤬🤣

@spongebob4702

4 жыл бұрын

muggle4real no this is real maybe those people are lying but Michael Jackson wasn’t a good person that is why I don’t care and don’t support that guy

@muggle4real

4 жыл бұрын

@@spongebob4702 yeah keep saying that to yourself.

When u run out of money and career start falling, hey let’s sue the Jackson estate. Listen It’s time for you guys to get a 9-5 job.

@YEAR-1-RELICS

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and On top of that they stated a family. Wade has a lil boy. Being used to the idea of monopoliesing money and the fact that they might be running out of it makes sence why they would try to dig in a dead man's chest once again. Now they have their family's to take care of...but that is in no way honest or right.

@deenabernard3630

5 жыл бұрын

Stevie Dee I agree

Its hard to know for sure what happened.the Lord Jesus Christ knows for sure.but in the event that what their saying is true my heart and prayers go out to them. .

@maytvargas

3 жыл бұрын

Amen! Only the Lord knows the whole truth.

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

@@maytvargas Not really - now we all know, according to the news (they lied): kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

The reason why people believe them is because it’s hard not to believe abuse survivors if somebody did something to your child you would want someone to believe them. It’s strange because these same guys testified on his behalf when Micheal was accused in a different case so the situation is difficult.

A grown man sleeping with random children, if he wasn’t dead and famous he woud be serving a life sentence

@kimishere

5 жыл бұрын

Children were not the only ones at his home. There were entire families and they already tried him and he was found not guilty so.....

@nadia4999

5 жыл бұрын

If he wasn't dead and he wasn't famous you nor I would be on this thread commenting, because sick Parents would not have used their own kids as pawns to set up a man they know was filthy rich.

A few things we need to keep in mind: Sharing your bed with children is not a crime 💯. This seems to be one of the biggest selling points on the accusing side, but it is not illegal & does not automatically prove sexual abuse took place 💯 What we're looking at & what needs to be proven/disproven is SEXUAL ABUSE TOOK PLACE 💯 Now with that being the case, it is hard to the get to the actual facts of the situation, especially considering the alleged actions took place so many years ago and can only truly be confirmed by those behind the closed door. So if we look at the FACTS THAT WE DO HAVE, it all points to Jackson's innocence 💯 the FBI and LAPD have investigated MJ intensely for years, & we're not able to convict him on these crimes, THIS IS FACT 💯 So who are we to say this man is guilty, years after his death when he's no longer here to defend himself & after being proven innocent in our gospel justice system?

they've been struck by a smooth criminal

His DEATH made them come forward...and I believe them, sadly. I also feel like the way they went about this was still very shady. Fatherhood could have very well made them see things differently. Once he died, a lot of their clout died too...opportunities in the business. They fed off their time with him...profited from it as adults. His name no longer carried what it once did for them. It seems really clear to me that a lot of their motivations are monetary now along with the guilt of LYING to protect him now that they have very little to show for it.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

Robson said glowing things about him numerous times AFTER his death. He didn’t change his story until after he wasn’t given the Cirque de solei job by the estate.

If it's not about the money don't accept it ... Right ?? Liers !

Is there or why wasn’t all these involved given a lie detector test?. I know they’re not 💯 percent but there is 3 people involved?😢

Y would the details be different if he was alive? Y would u take it to ya grave if he was still alive?? Cuz y'all lying!! And if he was here he could prove that!

Why did they keep going tomhis house if all this went on? Were they living with him?? Kids don't go anywhere they are uncomfortable with the adult...there will be fear. So he's touching them and they kept going back?

I hope they never go way and keep something out there now and then I'm sure they'll know more

Let's see it like this we all make mistakes and he really just needed a hug.

These guys are bad Actors

@ludvigspiller3913

4 жыл бұрын

Yep!

MJ fans are still in denial. It's not all about money. They wanted to find peace and closure and make sure it wouldn't happen to any other kid.

You guys telling they are liars, you probably never have been abused. Good, verry good for you, but I tell you : they do not lie.

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Ann A real sex abuse victims don’t act the way those two did. Many are traumatized for life and Those two seem to be living life with all the money they made.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

@@nsr5961 They literally turned this into a business. It’s all Wade does now.

It’s extremely heartbreaking knowing that people refuse to let Michael Jackson Rest In Peace 😓 The poor man endured so much throughout his lifetime and yet people still won’t let him rest ! In this world no one cares about evidence or the truth; people are too hung up on entertainment!! FLAT OUT LIES!!! These men disgust me !

@Testecoeur

Жыл бұрын

He used to drink precum of kids

Some people will do anything for money. And these 2 clowns spew their lies with a straight face, smh.

Wow. So many Michael fans are still in denial. I understand why Wade rubs people the wrong way, but James has no reason to lie about this. He makes a good living as a computer programmer, I doubt it's about money for him, he looks totally sincere. There will be more people who come out now. Just give it a bit of time.

@YTAishok

5 жыл бұрын

I think thats just Wade's confidence issue. I have similar problem, I can come off as being smug and egotistical when I do not even mean to. It's a real thing for people who have some social issues.

@WamuyuGatheru

5 жыл бұрын

What is the use of courts when we have a CBS court and another of public opinion?

@moonwalker_supergirl

5 жыл бұрын

WHAAAATTTT!

@Siri_Duffa

5 жыл бұрын

@@YTAishok Fair call.

@roccstarrkid1

5 жыл бұрын

James doesn't have a career...he has every reason to lie🤷

Latoya Jackson made these claims in the 90s. If only people had listened then!!!

@HiroForever

5 жыл бұрын

And Latoya revealed LATER she was MADE to do that and said SHE LIED

@goodbye5030

5 жыл бұрын

AND JANET&LATOYA ARE STILL NOT COMMENTING ON LEAVING NEVERLAND!

@blackberries1269

5 жыл бұрын

That's funny because while Latoya was making those claims in the 90s, the media was calling her crazy and nobody believed her. Now all of sudden she's credible foh

@makalinskis

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackberries1269 she lied...

Let me interview these fools. I have done my OWN research and I have my own questions to ASK them. Let see how much they will tell the truth ..

You're healing as your go fund me acct is piling up, Wade.

They are not telling the truth and they know it.

Gayle, you’re wrong. It is not Michael Jackson fans that are defending him. It is people with common sense

Why was Wade selling MJ items anonymously? Cause of MONEY. Michael Jackson has been dead for 10 years let him rest and people cherish his music that brought people together in the world. It’s sick and a sad way to get money or fame!

The 2 guys had to live with the abuse. I feel for them

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently they lied: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html (news report)

Michael was never like that. How could a man who barely said any cuss words do something like this? He ADORED children.

@nunyabiznes6243

2 жыл бұрын

That's not a criterion for being a good person. I believe he's innocent but this isn't a good argument. There are abusers about there who are kind and sweet on the outside but monsters on the inside.

As a survivor U can’t tell someone there lying about there own truth and story if you’re we’re not around. It’s painful and scary 😟abusers don’t wanna be exposed cause they it’s truly overwhelming to know that so called celebrities can’t do anything wrong 😑 and that’s not true.👏🏿👏🏿🎯🎯💯💯🙏🏿🙏🏿🎭🎭

@GuillermoMajores

2 жыл бұрын

According to the news - these 2 are lying: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmWYt8d-Xcadg5M.html

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

The facts tell us they are lying. Allowing a movement to co-opt facts for feelings is very, very dangerous.

Why no captions? I am HOH...NEED CAPTIONS in order to understand dialogue.!

I don't see any lying for sure. This may have happened to someone and that person may recognize these feelings. And knowing that only someone who has actually been through something like that could describe that situation in that way, those people recognize those feelings. Those people can see there is a high chance they are telling the truth

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Spades no there isn’t a slight chance. Those two didn’t even act like they were real abuse victims. Real victims of abuse have a different behavioral pattern. Many usually end in tears after recalling their past abuse. These two were looking at each other and trying to agree with one another. Also the fact that their stories have changed a lot proves they did it for money. MJ is innocent and you and the rest of delusionals who believe those lies can shove it were it fits.

@Elena-er7zp

4 жыл бұрын

I am a real child sexual abuse victim. My abuser considered us “special, secret friends”. I’m telling you I believe with every fiber of my being that these guys are LIARS.

Bad acting.

They are telling the true

@nsr5961

4 жыл бұрын

worshiper *1983 no they’re lying. That’s the truth.

Money is not justice. When it comes to that.

This worries me. The same exact story they're telling here and reactions are the same as the ones on the Oprah show. In addition, why are they no apologizing to the children they lied against????? Why is this coming up while the lawsuit against the estate exist? I would like to see them face the people they talked about against. I say this because I would like to know and see their reaction in that case. I would hate to think these men are praying on the feelings of those truly impacted with child molestation, rape, etc. This is not fair or making any sense in the way it is being told.

@seoul_mate

5 жыл бұрын

It is comforting to read comments like yours amongst all the hate and abuse there. I would never in a million years support or defend an abuser but something does not sit right with me. It's almost like their answers mirror each other to perfection.

if it's not about the money, why are you suing the estate? it's about the money.

@brucebruce5103

5 жыл бұрын

*Exactly!*

If they had been abused they wouldn't tell it the whole world, would they? Nobody would do that!

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

:DD

I believe these two men. As LaToya Jackson said what 30 odd year old man stays in the same room as little boys for days on end? If women came out and did this we'd be calling the brave and courageous.

Wow people are so against them.. Man just listen for once.. If your kid gets abused one day? Just because he is a celebrity doesn't means he can get away with it. I love MJ, but humanity first!

@mahlatsimoroka1500

5 жыл бұрын

Areoia do you have evidence

@kimishere

5 жыл бұрын

Right Humanity first like a person is innocent until Proven guilty and what about his poor 90 year old mother and his kids?? And they are liars. Even a judge said so about Wade.

Disappointed in CBS even given them air time

Stopppp with the fake squint....wade get a job...

This people doesn’t look honest ....

I can understand why many people don't understand their position ( this two victim), many people blaming instead of feel sorry for them. But you know as a victim of child abuse my self. I was just silent and try to just forget the abuse I had and move forward my life, to create a new better life and for a while it's work. But when I have my baby girl, what my Step father and my uncles have done to me it's like flashes come back again and you have fear that it could happens to your children, you have nightmare about people who abuse you in the past does it to your children and its made you brave to tell the past that you want to forget forever. I talk to the people around me to whole family so that gave them awareness to their children so that what happened to me not happening to them.

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@annemclean2548

2 жыл бұрын

did you defend your abuser to very agressive police aged 12 and 17. and take the stand fir 2 days without a hitch aged 22. James was ruled out from defending by the judge aged 27 but he did a deposition. yetcgot caught lying in their lawsuits, tossed out 9 times know the stories have changed 11 times. these like all of MJ's accusers have no credibility

Man Michael was innocent man these get me mad ash 💯😤

IDC how good your music is you don't sexually abuse children.

And you must say that they was on the trial when he was a credit as Michael Jackson witness.

"Its about Fighting back" Dudes dead lol its about money.

I believe them 100%. I can identify with their story of things changing once they had children. You see what you must have been like at your child’s age and you see your abuse with different eyes.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

They both supported him after having kids, but then changed their tune when they hit financial trouble and sued him for 1.5 billion.

They are the biggest liars in this world.

LEAVE MICHAEL JACKSON ALONE !!