[MHW] Brief(ish) History of the Bow Meta and the rocky beginnings
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Again, not really proud of this one, It seemed more..fun in my head lol. But whatever its done and I can move on. Im a shitty editor.
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I blame phem for my 100 hours DP only bow play
@Phemeto
5 жыл бұрын
I take full responsibility
@donchan9359
5 жыл бұрын
Phemeto Since the release I never touched other weapon than the bow. 400 hours bow only xD
@KhoiBoa
5 жыл бұрын
Lol I started mhw 3 months ago and read on old reddit people was saying just do draw infinity and dragon piercer. I was like this damage is shit.
I thought it was a great video. Well narrated; and I thought the editing was good as well. The quality of the information carried the video nicely. Because you know the weapons so well, you keep us captivated without having to go overboard/flashy. This is nostalgic for us longtime MHW players, but it's also informative/interesting for the newer ones. Keep up the good work!
*sigh* Still remember the days where Rath Soul Helm Beta, Rath Mail Beta and Teostra vambraces were a staple in my sets.
@anfernycrab8029
5 жыл бұрын
Good times
@MegaPixlz
5 жыл бұрын
They still are for me since I stopped playing so long ago lmao I don't know how to progress now
@johngabrivera
5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaPixlz I stopped playing as well last year on the console after Kulve was first released cuz RNG gave me the middle finger every time I completed the siege, so for a time I was out of the meta as well. After buying the PC version sometime around september, I was quickly able to catch up by generally watching speedruns of some youtubers like Phemeto here. Yeah it's kinda meh when you're just copying someone else's set, but you can eventually branch out and create your own set from there. Whats great is that there aren't alot of armor pieces to choose from anyway for an optimized build, since select pieces of the arch tempered armor sets and behemoth's are all around the best in terms of deco slots and skills. Problem is farming them tho.
@ARod3
5 жыл бұрын
John Rivera this is my current set up with the Nergigante coil. I’m only HR60 as I started playing early May. What’s the new best armor to have for bow users?
@johngabrivera
5 жыл бұрын
@@ARod3 Slr, but I suggest watching some of Phemeto's videos where he uses the Bow. (He shows his gear near the end of each hunt). Those pretty much showcase the current armor sets used in the current meta for max dps.
I'm not sure why you don't like these videos, they are easily some of my favorite on the channel!
@Phemeto
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I don't like anything I create
@Fleet_Admiral
4 жыл бұрын
@@Phemeto thats sound ironic, since you create amazing runs and content that everybody love and im pretty sure you motivated a lot of hunters to join from the melee guild to the gunners guild. :)
these videos are really cool. i like seeing how the meta shifted with different monster releases. and you explain it all in depth really well, honestly, very good videos
When you mained a different weapon on release so by time the bow meta became more solidified in crit element play style you already had the core decoration skills for bow to go crazy lol.
@jtribb89
5 жыл бұрын
Hell yea lol
The best MHW retospective, relevant to newcomers and veterans alike. Quality content - your pacing/delivery is about as no nonsense and informed as it gets. I've been there since the beginning and had a few months after Extremoth where I took a break. Not only was your vid an excellent journey through the evolving playstyle of MHW bow (excellent points on gem/gear availability and its effects on builds), I now know very clearly what the current situation of bow is right before Iceborne hits. Thanks for the content - I would gladly watch your other MHW weapon history retrospectives!
When I first started playing mhw I never thought bow would be one of the most powerful weapons in the game. Now it’s one of my main weapons along w/ Hammer.
Thx for reminding of bow history more history vids please
I didn't know Ornstein used bow to hunt the archdragons, thought that was Gough's job...
@FishS0cks
4 жыл бұрын
And he is blind too
@hyper-night-parade6220
4 жыл бұрын
@@FishS0cks Not blind just tricked into thinking he is, Humans that didn't like him filled his helm with pine resin so he couldn't see. Didn't stop him from knocking Kalameet out of the sky though.
I really enjoyed this video as well. I came back into MHW here last month and started fresh on PC. It's fun to see where I left off on console and am working towards on PC.
Awesome video Phem, I started playing well after DP meta and things were well stablished already, interesting to see how things changed keep it up PD. You forgot support bow meta
@ShinUkyo
5 жыл бұрын
Also the dreaded Sporepuff Build. The true endgame, my friend. (^_^)
dont know why youre dissappointed in these videos man, be proud of this content its good stuff.
Stop with the self-deprecation, this is a great and informative video
Really love these type of videos by good speedrunners. You don't know it but we like to hear your opinions on things about MH.
Dont knock yourself Phem, for a lapsed MHW player this was an excellent watch!
What are the best bows for each element? From what I understand after watching this video: Fire = Anja Water = Taroth Arrow? Thunder = Taroth Arrow Ice = Kjarr Dragon = Kjarr
@Souls42
5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to fine out yo
@youngjdef
4 жыл бұрын
You got it! (except Kjarr and Taroth Water are actually about equal) After 1000+ Bow hunts I've settled on Con 3 / SS 2 / WEX 3 / CB 3 / and Crit Eye as high as you can get it. (don't forget Mighty Bow deco). Skipping Normal+Spread Shot decos in favor of the stamina skills. No need to waste vouchers. Con3 + SS2 + Dash Juice is soo incredibly comfortable I recommend every bow player try it out once.
13:54 that is some sickass mod yo
Was leaning towards practicing up on my switch blade and now I want to Bow through the catalogue of monsters which I haven’t used since the opening weeks. Guess I can burn a day away ;p Oh and new sub here :) thanks for the great video.
Out of curiosity Phemeto, do you think bow needs to nerfed a bit, and if so in which ways (e.g. reducing the crit element multiplier at base, lowering KO damage, etc.)? Regardless, solid video!
Great video!
Cheers for shouting out SSH, that man might actually be an android and I sincerely hope he comes back to us for Iceborne.
@kannanlu843
4 жыл бұрын
Hurricane Joe he’s back
I got to 700 hr as a gunner main with your guidance in the first 2 months of launch. You're still on this game phem. I wonder if I should redownload it
Do you have more history of the weapons vids I actually loved this type of video
WOW! Well done.
How to easily farm dash juice, canteens voucher and what are the custom meals I should make? Only the one you showed in the video?
What are the layered armor and weapon on this video? They are so beautiful and I need them
i miss old bow ):
Bow went from ranged Hammer to ranged Dual Blades. Instead of focusing on the single volley with power shot, it changed to rapid hits with lots of element, going through stamina like a shark a school of minnows. If Dash Juice hadn't been nerfed, Bow would've probably been the undisputed king of the base MHW meta, as it could drop stamina management skills for more crit, attack, or element (I don't count Max Might as it would've been completely different with infinite stamina). These two reasons are ultimately the reason I dropped Bow when MHW finally released. Old-style Bow felt too weak to do anything early, so I was planning to pick it back up in post-game, after getting a bunch of Dash Juice and making a set with Focus. After finding out Dash Juice's nerf and old-style being obsolete, I never picked it up again. I originally picked up Bow as a safe way to fight Rajang while actively fighting him, not passively like a GS baby, back in 4U, with the same playstyle in Gen/GenU carrying me through GenU's G-rank in multiplayer. It both gladdens and saddens me to see where Bow is today, being in the meta for the former but not how I learned it for the latter.
What is the character wearing at 09:59? It looks great. Even if it's a mod, please let me know, I'm on pc
Brief history of LS when :D
I've had the game for a couple of weeks on PC and can't play enough. I play with bow until I can't kill something, then fall back to Lance until I learn how to kill it, and once I've mastered the monster I swap to a Kirin/Legiana/dual blade/bandit blade build to farm efficiently. I enjoy testing out new weapons occasionally, and the great sword is great and the hammer is funny af, but also very useful for farming kelbi horns.
Ssh
@kannanlu843
4 жыл бұрын
TSC and he’s back
what kinda "bow" is he using on 13:40 minutes ? :/
So, I'm not a MHWorld player, but as I watched the vid I noticed the player had some really cool armour sets from other games, like Ornstien. Are those from DLCs, or are they visual mods?
Tobi kadachi strikebow elem crit build is fun
I still dont have a mighty bow jewel.... feels shitty man
Thought you were going to talk about the best now ever created, the KELBI BOW!!! I forgot what it’s called but it’s the deer bow from mh3u.
@lucasbeck1391
5 жыл бұрын
Explosions everywhere
Very nice vid I don't even use bow(tried it for a bit just not for me) but this is very informative
Wait. A narga armor? Whered you get dat
Around 14:00 what armor/layer is that
Looool this my first time seeing nerg in other place rather than in elders hahaha
I stuck to elemental bow since starting with bow dp bow was fun before they fixed it lol
What is that armor that looks like a space suit? And what bow is that hes using with it?
@10pcWings
5 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm pretty sure I just saw ornstein from dark souls lol, I'm guessing these are mods.
Ok what the hell is that cool glowing circle bow. Is it a mod? I stopped playing on both ps4 and pc whenever kulve taroth released cause I didn't wang to live through relic hunting again...
@thatrandomguyo1
5 жыл бұрын
Mod. "Magic bow effect" on Nexus. Not sure what YT link policy is so I'll leave it at that.
I LOVE YOU
My take home ; Bow life is a STRUGGLE
but though whats the current DP raw bow to go? still diablos? i still like to use DP though
@Phemeto
5 жыл бұрын
So current DP is still diablos, but you can make blast bow work too. Kjarr blast is not much weaker and gets some extra booms
@vyra4896
5 жыл бұрын
danke, as much as i understand theres METAs element bow build i still wanna play some weird playstyles!
Bow mains unite!
@drachenklnd
5 жыл бұрын
Started playing again and i mostly see switch axes and rather common bow players that deal 50% of my damage
@3:45 Item dupe?
What set is that @10:17
MHW Bow became a spam fest of the worst kind... Guess i gotta switch to my favorite axe then
Much credit for Phemeto for literally breaking the game with this in-depth bow gameplay.
8000 food vouchers? Mod?
Praise the Kelbi bow
So what are the best bows right now for all elements
@destarker1340
5 жыл бұрын
Coilbender flyingstrikebow legiicebow nerg
@Souls42
5 жыл бұрын
@@destarker1340 what about the k'raa
Does Anyone remember the kelbi bow in mh3u? That shit was crazy good
@chadwicked444
5 жыл бұрын
fondly
Bow, the only weapon I can use without dying because I'm a fucking loser who likes to hang back and fire away, which is why I prefer the older games style over the dashing style of World
8k vouchers. Just how many pukei pukei did you kill?
I have 500hrs in this game and I don’t remember Nergigante being in The dessert map
@lucasbeck1391
5 жыл бұрын
Beta
At least there was never a Kelbi Bow...
what armor set it is this 10:14
@Holy_san
5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a custom modded naruga kuruga armor
I have 3 mighty bow jewel but no expert or critboost. Lol
@Phemeto
5 жыл бұрын
That's some good/bad luck
Ka jarr
The end-game builds look overly complicated, FML. Kinda wanted to get into bows but don't wanna sink in hundred of hours just learning combinations.
@CIOTECHSFX
5 жыл бұрын
You don't have to follow the meta to do well, it's mostly for speedrunners and people looking to optimize their play as much as they can.
@DemonArcMonster
5 жыл бұрын
Bow is really simple you can learn it in an hour or less easily, I picked it up on a whim to hunt Kirin back when the game released (switched from LS) its a really good weapon and just watch a quick guide and you’re all set
@LaMereACaniche
5 жыл бұрын
@@DemonArcMonster Thanks to both of you for your comments, I started farming yesterday to craft a few decent bows. I've only played GS so far and the bow gameplay looked so fun!
I have 5 attack deco's and not a single mighty bow FML
Hi dude, I appreciate the video but just some constructive feedback: 1. Relevant text shouldn't be on the screen the same time relevant audio is going on. 2. I don't know if it's the mic you have or your particular way of speaking but the speech sounded fairly slurred which made it difficult to follow. Just want to make clear I enjoyed the content.
"raw bows were king".. nah not really, remember 3U with the broken kelbi bow
@ubermaster1
5 жыл бұрын
Let's not talk about that
@Smeik2901
5 жыл бұрын
Or the Teostra bow in Gen
The first time i used bow in MHW it confuses me the hell out Like wtf am i supposed to do with this? Charge it? Spam it? Where should i aim? And what is my arrow type? Why is there no pierce?
Over 50 Kulve run 0 Kjárr Bow feels like the system intented to do so since I am bow main fml
@Nagato12000
5 жыл бұрын
Ha same 🤣😭😭
@maspanchannel
5 жыл бұрын
All you need to do is use other wepons more, and you'll eventually get it
@Sushityphoon01
5 жыл бұрын
500+ hrs and still no mighty bow jewel...
@Nagato12000
5 жыл бұрын
@@Sushityphoon01 im sorry to hear that ive gotten a couple so i guess rng just screws whoever it feels like screwing >.
@maspanchannel
5 жыл бұрын
@@Sushityphoon01 don't give up, i finally got my mind's eye at 500+ hrs and forceshot too, now im at 700+ hrs
Watch this video my interest in MHW has gone lower again new classic MH when
meanwhile CB had only 1 choice for a very very very long time wich was a bit boring and im a CB main i realy like the design of lunastra CB but it doesnt had the *BOOM* like the Diablos CB. im glad they improve elemental CB in Iceborn
@ianp3112
5 жыл бұрын
Elemental CB with crit boosts are right up there, if you pair with monster weakness! Cheers
5*75 with one shot. and people complain about SAED. Ha xD
Yeah, I can't help it. I hate the "new" bow play style. Going back to Gen just cements that for me, even with the wholly worse aiming controls. I don't find it fun at all.
@jonny8688
4 жыл бұрын
lol pathetic. The current bowplay is completly Amazing. Slow charge every shot like a tard is not a fun playstyle. DP playstyle also called "snailstyle" is boring as fuck and iam so glad that it died off at the start of MHW. Current bow is the greatest bowplay in any game really, bow is Always slow and you have to carefully aim each arrow and you almost always only have a certain ammount of arrows, like in the farcry games etc its also fun and really good bowplay sure but the bowplaystyle in MHW is so diffrent from other games wich include bows and its very fresh/diffrent and amazingly fun.. So typical anyways "they changed it from the old games so now i stopped playing it". Hurr durr change is bad hurr durr, i remember the good old days when bows took a day to charge up an arrow hurr durr i like sucking on garbagebags hurr durr