The problem is when someone that didn't care anymore about the characters tries to add "fan service" without understanding what the fans actually WANT.

@frogglen6350

Жыл бұрын

Idk fam. Lots of fans love the ending. And it's one of the mist fan servicey endings I've seen in a game.

@Spaced92

5 ай бұрын

@@frogglen6350 I liked the very end (the wedding is pure cringe and hack writing) but I wasn't really happy to see any of the old characters back as they were. I can't think of a single character who was enhanced by MGS 4's writing, unless people just like the aesthetic of Raiden (I thought making him Grey Fox was a massive middle finger to MGS 2 fans personally). Geez even characters like Para-Medic get retconned into being villains despite her EXPLICITLY SAYING she was completely against cloning in MGS 3.

This is a great review, and your focus on the War Economy (MIC) aspect of the setting/story, and point about that being the most relevant idea in the entire game, backed up with solid numbers etc, was fantastic, and an avenue of criticism I haven't heard anyone else level so clearly and, politically speaking, bravely, in other critiques of this MGS4. You're making great content, I bet these will start getting a lot more views within the next year.

REALLY great review, mate! The editing is REALLY good here (lost it at the constant cuts to JD 'XD) and you manage to say a lot of interesting talking points I hadn't considered! I think I agree more on this than your MGS3 one but there's still some things I don't fully agree with. The biggest point being the action. I don't think the action is nearly as "toothless" as you think it is, or any worse than MGS2 or MGS3 TBH. Enemies are slow to react but the combination of over the shoulder gunplay and switching to lockon, side jumping away from bullets and shooting back has always been very fun IMHO. Even when you talked about it being too slow, you show a clip of you punching through a bunch of PMC's, getting knocked to the ground and gunning down blokes from the ground. That looked pretty fun to me. :P I also dunno if I fully agree about the cutscenes. Sure, there's WAY too much bloody exposition and I think you make some really good points about Meryl, Raiden, Naomi, FoxDie and Big Boss. But I also don't remember being frustrated or bored when I play through MGS4. I thought it struck a nice balance of character moments with exposition, as well as having a bit more humor than MGS3, which you yourself showcased. I'd probably rate MGS4 higher than you (and certainly didn't seem to hate MGO2 the way you did 'XD) but I think this was a VERY good review! Might be my favorite of all the ones you've done so far! Nice work! Can't wait to see your next one! :D

@KeivReviewsThings

4 жыл бұрын

That’s fair. I know many enjoyed the combat and if you did, good on you. It was harder for me to enjoy when movement was so sluggish and enemies felt so unreactive. Part of why MGS3’s action worked a lot better for me was the immediacy of it. Guards went down much quicker and you could actively run and gun, which made getting outta tight jams feel a lot more satisfying even if gunplay was a bit archaic. Either way, thanks for the thoughtful feedback, dawg!

I've been watching your reviews in reverse order and I expected you to be a lot harsher on mgs4. As someone who has played most of the metal gear games numerous times and mgs4 at least 26 times, I'm agreeing with most of this. One thing you forgot to mention is Big Boss just stood there as Snake was putting the gun in his mouth despite saying he has respect for him and wants him to live the rest of his life in peace. Things I disagree with are the psyche meter and some of the fanservice (key note some). The psyche meter and stress percentage help encourage the player to want to stay stealthy. Being in alert causes stress to go up, and when your stress is high your psyche goes down causing you to have worse aim and chance for Snake to screw up his rolls. In terms of fanservice I feel Act 4 does it well by having a location known to fans become a more decrepit and dreary place with good atmosphere. And the final fight despite breaking from good game design of testing all the players abilities, does fanservice in a way that doesn't seem patronizing and more like a celebration of the series with these 2 old guys beating each other up to the tune of previous games soundtracks while using the health bars of said games. I think there are other instances of good fanservice but to be fair I haven't play the game since I pretty much went pc only which was a while ago so my memory on it isn't the best. I just wanted to mention the ones I do know. With all that said and done, I'm looking forward to watching your other videos.

Watched your MGS 5 video last night, first time coming across your work. I really enjoyed that video. I'm gonna watch it again tbh because I fell asleep during the last 25 minutes or so. This is really good too. Good work, I'm subscribing

What a breath of fresh air. Your reviews are far from the usual Supperbunnyhop esque "the first 3 games are holy perfection and all else is literally Satan" nonsense. MGS4 is an incredibly flawed game and so are the rest but darn is it rare to see someone give all the games equally just treatment. I still have some disagreements here and there with you but that's fine. Overall, these are the best reviews on the series thus far. I hope you keep it up.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

4 is by far the weakest of the first 4 though, especially compared to the brilliance of 1 and 3.

@TheKrowkaBoo

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. The story in first three games was not that good as people make it to be, it full of exposition, poor showing of main plot points etc.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKrowkaBoo 2 has tons of exposition, that I'll give you, but 1 and 3 find a great balance. 4 is the worst offender of exposition by far and it doesn't even have a good plot either.

@TheKrowkaBoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@TequilaToothpick I don't see how mgs 1 and 3 are better in exposition departament that 2 and 4. They like 2 and 4 shows their themes through talking. What worse about 3 that Snake and The Boss relationships were mostly developed via codec and looked like 90% of time The Boss talks about her philosophy and Snake 90% of time asked her "why did you leave me". Such a great writing for the game major key point.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKrowkaBoo Because besides the opening Boss radio call almost all the story of MGS3 was through exciting cut scenes. MGS2 has so many scenes where people are using the Codec despite being right next to each other. 4 has incredibly long exposition with Drebin and he doesn't even have a picture.

omg that skull face kill me when naomi is speaking killed me

I'm glad I stumbled upon these Metal Gear reviews 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

I know it’s a mess but I still love this one. There are few games as batshit insane as MGS4

@RobertEdwinHouse9

Жыл бұрын

I mean that's not a positive

@SaberRexZealot

Жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 who gives a shit?

I'm a bit late in this video,but damn,you are a really good reviewer (idk if this word exists). I just finished your 2 hour review of MGSV and came in here because i wanted to see your opinion o MgS4,even thou i don't agree with most of it,its just fascinating how you can get your point across. Mgs4 may actually be my favorite game of all time lmao yeah,i actually loved all the fanservice shit and all,but well,i understand why you disliked it. I may be one of the few people who actually loved all the MGS games and always look foward to listening to other people opinions,now i want to binge watch all your goddamn videos because they are soo good. Anyway,sorry for my english,i'm brazilian,have a nice day or whatever and keep on the good word!

Great work editing the video.

Id disagree that Old Snakes foxdie sub-plot is irrelevant, cos its a core part of his character in this game, giving others chances at the expense of himself. The rest I agree with though.

@vicwaters87

4 жыл бұрын

TBH I think that much could still be done with him only having a few months to live. His days are numbered but everyone around him still has a future.

There are many songs composed for this game by Gregson Williams that are quite literally ripped from soundtracks he did for movies over the years. "Father and Son" is in Team America: World Police when a puppet dies about 5 minutes in.

@SaberRexZealot

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh Gregson Williams isn’t even the most crucial composer from the series. Norihiko Hibino, TAPPY and Ludwig Forsell did way more original tracks than he did.

Great analysis. I loved mgs4 but it definitely had it's flaws. I got to meet Phil Laamar back in 2014 at a con, and he talked about how his voice for vamp was the most difficult he's ever done because it allowed him to actually challenge himself vocally and find the right tone

Man you had a lot to say. Pretty awesome breakdown. MGS4 was and always will be one of the most significant gaming experiences of my life, but that's not to say it was perfect at all. I really appreciate the perspective you provided here, definitely worth watching. Keep it up, do some more popular games so you can draw in more viewers for this great content.

What a great series of reviews. Like them all, especially the fact that they' re far from typical "first three games are gold, the rest are bad" . Personally i think that most of fan service has a point and was made to show what happened when you let things outlive their natural lifespan. Returning to Shadow Moses is prime example of this.

@Luna-pk7gz

Жыл бұрын

no no, these reviews are ass, he straight up lies and spreads misinformation about the games such as Big Boss not having a personality which is so fucking false. Dude should quit youtube in all honesty.

I've said it before on a few occasions, but MGS4 is the Dragon Ball GT of the Metal Gear series. It just feels like fanfiction and, to be honest, in my personal "headcanon", I don't consider MGS4 Canon and look at it more as a what-if story. Also, I found your video via J's Reviews' community post and I'm glad I did. Good stuff my dood

@TheMrCHELL

3 жыл бұрын

It is canon, you liking or not. It's not like DBGT that got replaced by Super.

@RobertEdwinHouse9

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrCHELL since Mgs2 can be seen as the real ending of the franchise as it should since mgs4 story ruined the franchise It's not Canon for mr

I may not agree fully with the final scoring, but this is one of the best reviews I've ever seen.

14:00 thanks for the shout out, good review of 4

This is such a great review! Kojima suffers from Tetsuya Nomura's problem: they have good ideas for a story but they aren't writers and they don't allow writers to actually make the stories well structured, adjust the pacing, turning them into something cohesive and intelligible by removing padding, repeated elements and prioritizing relevant messages over others that arent adding anything to what they are really trying to say.

oh Jesus this is the long one

1:43 That’s the issue with MGS games; MGS1 gave you one type of each weapon and that’s all you needed; MGS2 gave you tranq versions of the pistol and PSG1; MGS3 onwards are gratuitous. To paraphrase Yahtzee, these games gave you a 100 million tools to do things that aren’t that complicated.

i fucking love your mgs videos

I felt MGSV was much more disappointing. I finished MGS4 multiple times, but MGSV is a big mess and I'm thinking if it's worth my time to play it again.

@KeivReviewsThings

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on what matters most to you, the player. I'm a very gameplay-centric individual. The stories for these games do not dictate how much I like or dislike them because I'm not going to be re-watching cutscenes I already know the outcome of. If I'm replaying a game, it's purely for the gameplay. The reason MGS4 underwhelms me is because the gameplay lost me after act 2. Nothing from that point on is remotely as fun for me. I don't enjoy tailing missions. I greatly dislike railshooters. And the lions share of act 4 doesn't feature conventional human guards except during Wolf's boss fight. So, there's nothing that has me hooked to keep playing after Octopus' encounter. Whereas, with V, I enjoy virtually every mission. Unlike MGS4, it remains a consistent stealth action video game from near-start to finish. Most of its missions remain highly open-ended, all mostly taking place in really well designed outposts. And I simply had more fun engaging with enemy soldiers, both in the stealth and combat sequences of V than in 4. That's just me, of course. Consistent game design matters to me. It's why I've always enjoyed the Big Boss games a lot more than the Solid Snake games. They tend to stay stealth action games, whereas the Solid Snake games often dip too heavily in set pieces that I tend not to enjoy.

@RobertEdwinHouse9

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeivReviewsThings I mean I also prefer a focus on gameplay a lot more but still the stories in mgs1, 2 and 3 are just way too good I only skip some cutcsences in 2 mainly the Emma ones ew But replaying mgs4 and It literally ruined the series if I'm honest Mgs2 should be the real true ending to the series (not saying the rest of the games shouldn't exist just that 4 shouldn't)

@KeivReviewsThings

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 It will ultimately depend on how much stock one puts into the writing of these games. I'm in the minority, but I don't particularly care for the writing in any of those games or any of the ones that came after. I've always maintained that every game has good ideas, great moments, something to say, and memorable characters, but that the collective whole has never lived up to those moments for me. I admire Kojima's commitment to his vision and to having a desire to actually share a message through an interactive medium, but a big part of why I don't think he's especially good at conveying those themes is because so much of his writing is conveyed through characters literally spelling everything out in one-sided exposition dumps. Whatever the message or theme, to me, that will never be good writing because that's the least interesting and least inventive way someone can relay a point. As such, MGS4's story didn't really ruin much of anything for me. I endured it all, it had its moments, but those moments aside, I found it to be mostly hogwash. And that's about how I saw every other games writing, so it's more or less no better or worse than any other game. It has its own unique weaknesses, and its own endearing qualities. The only thing that MGS4 genuinely ruined about MGS2, in my opinion, was the Patriots themselves. Their founders didn't need to be the MGS3 codec team. And their ineptitude during MGS4 with Ocelot taking them for a ride completely undermined the calculating force they were portrayed as in that final call with Computer Colonel. But otherwise, what was relevant about MGS2 still holds up, and makes it interesting to ponder over. But it's still something I feel had better ideas than actual execution.

MGO2 Emblem creation track. Nice touch. 23:25

Writing is showing AND telling. Showing rather than telling works in most cases but it's subjective and doesn't apply to all movies and games, etc. I do agree that MGS4 is somewhat messy from a writing perspective. If it were a movie it'd get more flak.

@KeivReviewsThings

4 жыл бұрын

Subjective though it may be, one has to consider what audiences respond most positively towards. Typically speaking, the vast majority of people prefer when a story is conveyed with as little exposition as one can manage. If something can be conveyed visually, then it *should* be conveyed visually. Simply talking about a subject isn't interesting for the vast majority of people, especially when these scenes are so one-sided, nor is it doing the point trying to be conveyed justice. There are so many different ways one can explore themes, plot points and everything in between. And those options only grow the more you consider the medium and the role interactivity can play. Writers owe it to both themselves *and* their audiences to convey their plots in the most interesting and creative ways possible. Simply sitting the players down and talking *at* them for several minutes on end, relaying quite a great deal of very dry information all at once simply isn't that. That, too, is merely my subjective point of view, but I would argue it's a point of view that would, in a broader sense, resonate better with audiences, regardless of the medium.

@h.b.smith_writer

4 жыл бұрын

@@KeivReviewsThings Well said, sorry for the late reply. I think it can work both ways. Not you but sometimes I feel like the phrase "Show, don't tell" gets used as a cheap shot against a lot of modern movies. A lot of classics like The Godfather are 90% dialogue scenes but they're made interesting, but also incorporate visual storytelling as well.

@mrhdm5408

2 жыл бұрын

The problem isn’t that they talk, it is because when they talk, it’s mostly exposition, if there’s a lot more characterization of conflict or banter in the lines itself, it would be a lot better

Simply the best. 👌

it's not really a game. it's a movie with some game elements in it. it's extremely fun and engaging during those open zones where you ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME, but EVERYTHING ELSE is you watching a MOVIE (and a long, self-indulged boring one at that)

Dude! I love your review! That was cool. Lots of interesting points. I thought your were quite generous giving this 6/10. (This was by far the worst one for me.) But anyway, I feel the gameplay was a bit minimal. And I totally agree. The cutscenes drag on way way too long. - More like a poor quality movie than a game. Kojima should have cut out so much of that bullshit. I shouldn't dare say this, but I almost feel that this game shouldn't have been made in the first place. The Rex vs Ray fight was great idea, but I feel it didn't quite work as well as I had anticipated. Anyways, I love your reviews. I look forward to watching your other videos.

@TheMrCHELL

3 жыл бұрын

Kojima didn't care about cutting cutscenes. He hated doing this game and gave what people wanted: closing the story and The Patriots and characters arcs. He was like "here, here is your explanation". And that is what people got.

@TheKrowkaBoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrCHELL He did not want to close the story in general, he wanted to end Solid arc. Also he wanted to make another game right after Snake Eater was released.

@femorllarina9395

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKrowkaBoo He wanted to end the story in MGS2. MGS3 was originally being made without him, but the team wasn't progressing so he wanted to help them but the idea was doing MGS3 without him. After 3 he got the death threats and so on

@TheKrowkaBoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@femorllarina9395 I think you confused wanting to end the story with mgs 2 being the last game for Hideo. Anyway on the grand scheme of things history shows creator who so emotionally attached to the series that he couldn't leave it even when he wanted to do this. Post 4 games are proof of this.

@TheKrowkaBoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@femorllarina9395 I think you confused wanting to end the story and mgs 2 being the last game for Hideo. Anyway on the grand scheme of things history shows creator who so emotionally attached to the series that he couldn't leave it even when he wanted to do this. Post 4 games are proof of this.

I never got a chance to play this version of Metal Gear Online 2. It took OVER AN HOUR to connect every time I tried to play it and shortly after I was able to take control of my character, I got booted out.

i can see people who was into this series not really liking this game because it covers a lot of stuff that fans already know. but see it from my point of view and others like me. mgs4 was my first ever mg game. this thing felt hand made for me. every time it talked about someone there would be a 5 to 10 min cut scene or audio talking about who this person was what they did what color their eyes are how they like their eggs cooked so i was never lost. had this game just kept moving a long i would have been so lost. like liquid ocelot two bad guys in one that would completely lose anyone new to these games had the cutscenes and talking parts not went over both characters and their back stories. i loved that the game let you play it however you wanted. and even through it was talked up more than it was actually in the game but you could stress snake out so much he would vomit. it only happened once but crazy amount of detail. i felt the game was very well balanced. seemed like for every part of the game that seemed dialog every there would be a big action part or a part that if you wanted to play stealthy took your full concentration. i loved the octocamo. if i had to manually change outfits like mg3 makes you over and over i would have quit the name in anger and frustration all to stay hidden. the replaying part of the mission from mg1 was really cool to me and to go back to it years later and to pilot rex. MAN that was fun. the only thing after i beat the game that i wished they would have added in was let you play as raiden. that robot ninja looked awesome. the irony when i found out how everything hated playing as normal raiden in mg2 was a bit funny. to see a character that everyone hated playing being turned into a character we all wished we could have played as. when i saw the early demos of the raiden game that got canceled i was pissed. then saw it was coming out but they changed everything i hated. the early demos of slicing a bad guy into 100 pieces while in slow mo was epic. sad to see it get turned into what it became. raiden is clearly a cursed character. but anyone if you never played any metal gear game and you are reading this mgs4 you won’t be disappointed. it will definitely make you want to play more. the irony is is player this then V and all the others. what a weird experience..

It’s so..brown. I don’t recall the almost monochrome image.

I preffered the Stamina meter. It added an more important sense of survival to the game. And the psyche meter even before the syringe thing was never a problem to me. Hell i rarely even after my 12th playthrough did i even use the syringe in MGS4 i instead just used the cardboard box and stayed in the shadows to lower his stress, and there are songs in both mgs3 and 4 that increase stamina and psyche. You'd have to play like an absolute moron to be so bothered by those mechanics. But you are right about the enemies being less of a threat as the series progress. Even in MGS5 i've found that most enemies while they are more capable of hittin you from afar, they just aren't that smart anymore, they are too slow to clear an area, and don't even react to an empty gun having its trigger pulled when you hold them up. Also the CQC fight with The Boss is more about timing than anything else. It's not that hard once you get a hang of it.

Did anybody else NOT like the Snake having accelerated aging plot?

@tahahisham772

3 жыл бұрын

Hello

@sgauden02

2 жыл бұрын

@Burst Your Bubble Yeah. The I never really bought the accelerated aging thing. Setting in the future would've simplified everything.

@diegomedina9637

3 ай бұрын

You know that was established in MGS 2 by both Liquid Ocelot and Solidus appearance right?

@sgauden02

3 ай бұрын

@@diegomedina9637 I know, but to be honest, that game's storyline was kind of all over the place. I just wonder if it would've been better for MGS4 to have taken place in the future with Snake having aged naturally.

MGS4 may have been the most streamlined and flawed game in the series but i still enjoyed it none the less. Unpopular opinion i actually prefer it more than MGS3 this may piss some people off but i really cared about Solid Snake and his story over than Big Boss because he as a whole feels like a more grounded character who experienced the horrors of War even as a child that a normal human could relate to while Big Boss in the other hand purposely feels like a tryhard immoral badass Super Soldier that a Call of Duty Fanboy craves for who's under 12 years old. And gameplay wise the controls and mechanics in 3 are clunky and outdated that felt like cinder blocks straped to your feet compared to modern third person controls. 3's lack of the radar from the first two games doesn't make it any easy to track down enemies like it used to. I'm not saying MGS3 is a bad game by any means it certainly has it's shines but to me it hasn't age well compared to this game. MGS4 from my perspective fit's as a good conclusion for the series to end here cause there were satisfying moments enough to at least put Snake's whole deep story to rest.

You think stamina is bad? That's a key aspect of the game. It's something that differentiates this from nearly all other shooters.

Video starts well with gameplay observations, then I think there's a lot of bs when talking about the story. It is flawed, but some of these points are far fetched or flat out wrong. Definitely agree with the conclusion though. MGS4 lacks consistency.

@harry1178

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah MGS games were always really terrible and stupid games, until MGS5 thank god, Kojima finally managed to make a good game.

@RobertEdwinHouse9

Жыл бұрын

@@harry1178 Mgs2 and 3 are terrible??

I think the eating mechanics are pretty cool in mgs 3 tho

I know this is far removed from the purpose of this video, but the reason nations like Europe are able to have those sprawling welfare states is due in large part to America’s massive military working as a defender. It’s no surprise that said welfare states in Europe only arose after the inception of NATO and other such structures. As for the United States’ massive military spending, the United States is currently the world’s global hegemon. If you were to look at nations like Britain during the 19th century, you’d see them as the largest military spender in their day as well. Let’s say hypothetically that China were to usurp The United States as a global hegemon, it’s almost guaranteed that they’d be the largest military on earth to protect their status. Every superpower does this so rival states see the idea of trying to rail against their established order through means of war as unappealing at best and a guaranteed disaster at worst. I do believe that we should have universal healthcare, however. It’s honestly quite strange to me that The United States’ healthcare industry is the largest single sector in the country, and yet we lack universal healthcare.

Great video

MGS4 felt a lot to me like a 1st person/3rd person shooter hybrid first and a Metal Gear game second. But the weapons and gadgets were cool and a lot of fun to mess with. I did greatly enjoy Acts 1 and 2. I draw a similar conclusion to the game than you did, but I think I liked it a little bit more than you. I hate giving numbered scores, but I would probably give the game a 7/10. There's a lot of good and it rises above a lot of it' contemporary rivals s but there is a severe lack of focus in both the plot and the game design. I feel that some of the lack of refinement or streamlining of things in the level design department comes from pressure from SCE to make a game that would sell PlayStations 3 and b) to rival Call of Duty. All of that being said, I still replay the game annually and it was the game that made me want to get a PS3.

I agree with some parts and I can see why everyone doesn't like this game, especially older fans. Still, I'm one of those who followed the franchise from MGS1 and I totally enjoyed 4 when it came out. It might be too much sometimes with all the info in long cutscenes. But it's one hell of an epic ride.

@ikeaira8701

Жыл бұрын

I feel it's the exact opposite. A lot of Longtime/Older fans loved MGS4, more than those that disliked it. Because it's literally MGS, long info dump cutscenes, conspiracies, action, stealth, it had everything and more that made up a MGS game. I feel it's more of the younger/newer fans that played MGSV, saw the cassette tapes and thought that's how all the dialogue should work and are coming in claiming "Older fans disliked MGS4." when I honestly haven't met one long time fan of the series dislike 4, because it's an epic conclusion to this awesome story(unless you wanna consider MGR canon lol). Maybe the only complaint I heard from older fans was they disliked how Snake aged, and the mustache lol. But later accepted the reasoning why he aged. cause nanomachines son lol

@DanSmeed

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeaira8701 That might be true to some extent. But I've seen people being overall critical towards MGS4 since before V came out. I think it's usually that they didn't like how certain aspects was explained like it was all nanomachines. They enjoyed the mystery more I guess. To me that wouldn't be a reason dislike a whole game though.

This is the first time when metal gear finally got good controls Splinter cell be laughing from 2002

You're right, MGO2 was pretty awful. The community itself was toxic as hell too lol. I always felt that MGS4's gameplay was its best aspect, and even that goes downhill along with literally every other aspect of the game after Act 2 concludes. Kojima wants to make movies, just in the video game medium, but even there he stifles and stumbles a lot.

@RobertEdwinHouse9

Жыл бұрын

He wants to make movies but he can at least try to make a good movie

Still my favourite mgs game

@PazuChill

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. It's one of my all-time favorite games and probably the most satisfying conclusion to any series I've ever played or watched.

@josiah8556

3 жыл бұрын

@@PazuChill agreed

@sontito7820

3 жыл бұрын

For me MGS1, 2 and 4 are my favorites. The Solid Snake story and the Patriots storyline are great.

@josiah8556

3 жыл бұрын

@@sontito7820 yes

Just found this video and i know it’s two years old but I have a question. How are you going to blame Trump but ignore every other Presidents roll in the war? Obama and Bush certainly had major rolls in this war and Clinton and Bush Sr. can be said to have influenced things also. You don’t have to like Trump but not even mentioning any other president who had a hand in this situation is totally biased. P.S. I Still liked the video and gave you a thumbs up. This is just my criticism which we all know is worth 2 cents.

@KeivReviewsThings

2 жыл бұрын

I was referring to the military industrial complex as an entity itself, because it's seeped across multiple conflicts, not just Afghanistan, hence why I didn't directly say Afghanistan. And at the time of recording that track, Trump had just escalated tensions with Iran over an unmanned drone being shot down. That's why I used him as an example; to show that eleven years on (at time of recording), not much had changed.

@jamesearlcash7725

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeivReviewsThings doesn’t make what I said wrong. You still went out of you way to blame Trump and insult him for something that he didn’t start while ignoring other presidents who had way more to do with our presence in the the Middle East. Bush and Obama had more than double the time At the helm than Trump who wasn’t even a politician before he became President.

@KeivReviewsThings

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jamesearlcash7725 At no point did I blame Trump for the wars in the Middle East. I blamed him for accelerating military spending in a way no president before him ever did ($740 billion a year), and for nearly starting an armed conflict against Iran over them shooting down unmanned military hardware that cost us $22 million. Those were the only points I made in that 40 second segment because it tied directly to MGS4. Anything else would've been a tangent, and I typically cut the fat if it has nothing to do with the points I'm trying to make.

You need more subs

do you want some cheese with that whine?

Masterpiece

Eh...nah, while it had some "poor" moments, it was overall well received by the fanbase because it was an epic conclusion to an awesome story, fanservice and all.

What your saying maybe true, but to me it's over analysis, remember it's just a video game. Better than most if you ask me.

Well, you can blame konami for this mess 😅 kojima intended snake eater would be the last in the series but konami wants more. But on the bright side, because of this poor gameplay, we get the perfect gameplay in TPP

Orange Man Bad!!!! No matter what evidence to the contrary indicates.

@KeivReviewsThings

4 ай бұрын

I only spent 40 seconds talking about real military spending because it was related to the topic of review. The point was about the U.S. over-inflating military spending instead of using those billions to solve problems domestically. That I used that very brief moment to also dunk on your civilly liable rapist was simply because he happened to be president at the time. Personally, I don't think it's healthy to get so defensive over politicians. Especially when that defensiveness flies in the face of basic reality. Then again, Jonestown happened, so what do I know?

Mgs 4 is vastly superior and you should respect it, KZread ads is better than your content

if you grew up with the MGS franchise you would not make this video... only true MGS fans enjoyed the conclusion snd the hype of MGS 4

@KeivReviewsThings

Жыл бұрын

You can love a franchise without loving every entry or story decisions made. The notion of "only true fans do X, Y or Z" is arbitrary gatekeeping with true substance to it. Being a fan of something does not mean you can't be critical of it. I say this as a nearly forty year old man who played MGS1 on launch and has been a fan of this series for twenty five years.

@Luna-pk7gz

Жыл бұрын

@@KeivReviewsThings and yet for a fan since MGS1 you said dumbass shit and bad faith arguments like Big Boss had no personality when he does. I am just saying, if he had no personality, there wouldn't be widespread theories of him having autism such as him obsessing and hyperfixating on weapons. Fucking pay attention to the games you review.

mgs games have always been low tier, 4 was just dogshit

MGS4 is the only mainline MG game I don't think is an above average game. More like a below par movie, though I enjoy parts.

Enjoyed your reviews and continued watching your videos until orange man bad. Middle finger.

Lmao another whiny dem ranting about orange man bad when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I clicked on this to see a Metal Gear Solid 4 Review not to learn about why socialism is good. Other than that the vid is a pretty good look at MGS4. However its funny how everything has to be political with some people even when its not relevant to the topic at hand. The defense budget has been high for many past presidents, it was even pretty high under Obama when he made cuts. Not really a one president issue but yea use Trump like a punching bag like almost everyone does nowadays very original.

@KeivReviewsThings

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not shy about my politics. I am, indeed, a very progressive liberal who despises Trump with every fiber of my being. That said, if you watch my reviews, I've never brought up politics, Trump or my utter hatred of him and all conservative politicians in any other review. I don't associate every awful thing in the world to Trump, and even the stuff I do, unless it's relevant to the video, I won't mention it because I like keeping things to the point. I did so here because Trump is perpetuating a very real problem, which was relevant to MGS4: the war economy, or as we call is, the military industrial complex. When Kojima wrote MGS4, we were in the middle of the Iraq War, so it would've been timely to address Bush over Trump. However, it felt appropriate because over twelve years on, the problem has only gotten worse. Obama didn't do nearly enough to cut military spending, and Trump has persistently hiked up the defense budget with each passing year, including his $750 billion package to the Pentagon, and often used misinformation to justify inflating our military budget, like claiming we didn't have ordinance or bullets when his own generals were saying that was exaggeration. I mentioned Medicare-For-All because the lack of it, especially in these times, stems entirely on the question of, "Where's the money for that?" And the answer is, "That money is being pissed into the Defense Industry." It has only gotten more and more expensive under "Orange Bad Man," and he's using the very excuses Eisenhower warned this nation about in his farewell speech. We've already seen manufacturers inflate the costs of weapons and gear assembly; charging thousands for what costs dollars to assemble. It's a self perpetuating money maker for the defense industry, and continues to be relevant to the subject. That's the danger of the military industrial complex. War means profit, and even if we're not constantly at war, "peace" means having the biggest stick, so there's constantly an excuse to piss more and more cash into this amoral war machine, even if we, the people, suffer as a result. And while I don't think MGS has ever been well written, it's at least more engaging if the subject matter Kojima's *trying* to explore is more immediately relevant to us than systems and nanomachines. As is, MGS4, to me, was very boring and tedious, storywise, because the subject matter Kojima was droning on about was not the least bit interesting. I tolerated MGS2's cutscenes because there were degrees of truth and relevance to the exposition dumps. With something as dry and insufferably wordy as "the system," I, and many other people, tend to tune out because the information isn't the least bit engaging. On a final note, you call something like Universal Healthcare socialism, even though none of the other developed, allied nations who have adopted this healthcare system are socialist nations. But M4A is no more socialist than social security or food stamps. It's a social support program, one designed to ensure that a person doesn't have to decide between paying rent and getting essential treatments. I don't believe anyone, be it you, or any republicans, *honestly* think that people deserve to die if they can't afford treatment. But that's exactly what's happening here, in the wealthiest nation on the planet, and the MiC is a big part of that. Cost of living is only getting more and more egregious, people have more and more expenses constantly looming on their shoulders, especially if they have kids. And consider this: even if you have insurance, getting treated for something like COVID-19 costs close to $10k if your conditions require hospitalization. That's *with* insurance. For the millions of Americans who don't have insurance, the costs are just a little over $37k. And if someone can't afford health insurance, the odds of them being able to afford that kind of treatment are slim to none. I can only speak for myself, but I simply cannot stand by any system that leaves people to rot. And I don't think it's something that should be dismissed just because establishment talking heads want to scare people off with the word "socialism," as if providing basic healthcare to Americans will be the fall of democracy as we know it.

@SyndicateOperative

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. Wasn't expecting that either, that was jarring.

@blossom357

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it a LITTLE ironic that someone could watch a video about Metal Gear Solid, whose creator has never been subtle about his politics, or at least his anti-war anti-nuke stance, and then be upset when one of his fans is just as impassioned?

@revy1370

Жыл бұрын

@@blossom357 isn’t it ironic you’re responding to a comment i made two years ago. Kojima is anti war and anti nuke but the games message isn’t orange man bad. To act like only one side has pro war politicians say’s alot. Especially when both sides have pro and anti war politicians.