Dearly Departed .... you are simply the best.

@maryminott2593

4 ай бұрын

100%!

@christinechristensen6871

2 ай бұрын

Agreed😃

What a great voice and the way the story is put together makes this channel what it is .

My theory is that the mother, Kitty, was obliterated due to the fact that she allowed the abuse, observed it and chose to do nothing. That’s why she was annihilated…sins of omission…

I’m glued to your channel…. Constantly intrigued with your factual knowledge about Hollywood and more. Thank you! ❤

I so very much enjoy listening and watching you Scott!

A friend of mine had a basketball trading card with some random LA Lakers player on it but it was worth thousands because in the background of the picture were Eric and Lyle Menendez with court side seats…

@vicvega3614

4 ай бұрын

My brother still has that card, its the Mark Jackson Knicks Hoops card from 1990, it was taken after the murders. Last time i checked the card is going for 5 grand or more. We used to collect all the complete packs of the sports cards from the late 80s early 90s

@kb8939

4 ай бұрын

Both comments irrelevant to their appeal.

@lindabrennan4455

4 ай бұрын

​@@kb8939Just a little trivia. Chill out.

@samanthab1923

4 ай бұрын

Spooky

@planetvegan7843

Ай бұрын

You can get one of these cards mint condition 10/10 for 50 bucks

I live in the town Kitty grew up, where she was crowned "Miss Oak Lawn" at the local VFW in 1962,

@2863wonderland

4 ай бұрын

In Illinois?

@angiesamborski6564

4 ай бұрын

Is that the vfw on Central Ave and 108th st ?I live nearby now

@lorraineswanson2024

4 ай бұрын

Johnson-Phelps VFW Post 5220 at 52nd Ave and Yourell

@lorraineswanson2024

4 ай бұрын

Yes, in Illinois

Brilliant and insightful. Straight to the conversation and no stuffing around.

I have a lifetime of fascination with forensic studies and find these videos in particular (love all of your videos as well) extremely interesting. Thank you for your posts. I also wanted to say how sorry I am that you had to close your museum. I would have loved to visit it when I had the chance. Now medical issues would not have permitted it anyway so I really enjoy your videos. Thanks again.

There's no real evidence that Lyle ever threatened the therapist Dr Oziel. According to the therapist what happened is that Erik ran out of the session crying and Lyle ran after him. Dr Oziel tried to get Lyle to come back rather than chasing Erik to which Lyle said to him "good luck Dr Oziel". Dr Oziel took this to mean a threat. Personally I think it's pretty evident from other evidence (other witnesses and the confession tape) that Oziel was not afraid of the brothers and just had to come up with an excuse at trial as to why he divulged patient secrets to his mistress.

@Cove999

4 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

@lindabrennan4455

4 ай бұрын

I completely agree.

Glad you are doing these autopsy recaps! Brings back the true horrific nature of these murders

Hey Scott: I don't know if you read these, but I imagine you do. I was wondering if you could someday do a story on Jilly Rizzo's (Sinatra's right hand man) restaurant and bar there in Palm Springs. The building is still there, and the story is so weird and bizarre. And both Jilly and Frank are buried nearby.

The reason they thought they were going to be killed is Eric told Lyle that the abuse was still happening. He had tried to go to move out and Jose wouldn’t allow it because he was still raping his son. After Eric told him, Lyle confronted Jose and told him he had to stop. Jose told them that if anyone ever found out about what he did, then he would kill them. They then all went on a boat trip where Eric and Lyle thought that this is when they would be killed. The boat captain even talked about how scared the boys seemed during their trip. That’s when they made the plan. It wasn’t perfect and they should have gone to jail, but abuse screws with your brain. Not excusing killing them, but Jose and Kitty got what came to them so I have no sympathy for them. (Kitty was also horrifically abusive and was pretty well documented on that)

@Leanah37

4 ай бұрын

Exactly! Whenever anyone talks about this case they just focus on crime scene and repeat false and biased pro-prosecution claims that the brothers just wanted money. But they never mention the events that led to the murders or the abuse they suffered and all the evidence. So frustrating

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

This. I don't know why everyone ignores the boat trip they went on the day before. They were clearly afraid of the parents and the boat captain noticed it. The brothers were huddled up together at the front of the boat on a cold day wearing shorts out on the sea for 7 hours and they very rarely budged or moved even when they got soaked by a wave. Even the behaviour of the parents tells you something was going on. In years prior to this Jose was all over his children constantly, they were always in his sight and he ordered every single move they made. Yet for some reason on this boat trip he is ignoring them for some reason. It's evident that something was happening in the family and the brothers were afraid.

@MummyBrown

4 ай бұрын

AMÉN. Their own words from prison are also very telling. They’ve never been a problem in jail, quite the contrary. I recall an interview done with Lyle where he stated that prison was the first time he was able to sleep or feel safe. They don’t do many interviews. I think Eric has only done a couple the whole time. It’s mostly Lyle, but even then he hasn’t done many. I can see why his people wrote what they did to Scott. I think the major difference between people that “get it,” and those that don’t is that the former have been abused themselves. I have, I even had enabling family members so I fully understand the hate and anger. I don’t condone murder, but fuck Jose and Kitty. Good riddance, these were shitty people. That’s very telling.

@MummyBrown

4 ай бұрын

@@YourEverydaySheep this is big in the argument about the legitimacy of true fear in a home where they were raised by a tyrannical father, confirmed by everyone that came into contact with Jose, and a cruel, alcoholic mother that took out her aggression on them because she blamed THEM for her life. That tidbit about Kitty was stated in testimony by her therapist where he also stated that she hated Lyle and Eric. People raised in love and safety have no right arguing the legitimacy of the fear that a grown person has due to being raised by highly terrifying caretakers. Psychologists speak of the importance of a child’s formative years and how that shapes them neurologically.

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

@@annmcclure8378 We actually do know a lot because over 50 people who knew the brothers and their parents came to testify for their defense. There was a lot of evidence of the parents abusive behaviours. For gods sake Kitty's own sister and nieces say they don't forgive her but they DO forgive the brothers.

My son stole from me then lied about me to throw off the police , he had everything given to him but he still stole and lied , I can totally see how these two lied to cover up

@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust

4 ай бұрын

Maybe you didn't set him boundaries clearly enough. I think that's what most parents fail to do. It's important from the beginning on. Once they are teens it's all too late. I had strict but loving parents and I needed that. The more I behaved the less stricter they became. The more I misbehaved the more they took away privileges. Today I am thankful they taught me how to behave properly and to have empathy.

@HarryLime-ge6dc

4 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that you had to experience that pain. I can't imagine.

@piscesempress1978

4 ай бұрын

@@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust dont be condesending, you have no clue how they raised their children.. Empathy? You clearly have none. . My mom taught me to have empathy, she took away my stuff when I was bad, but I can see how children NO matter how they are taught can turn bad. Maybe you should get off your hight horse

@lisag18

4 ай бұрын

​@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust you don't know what happened in the household.

@RoyalMetal9

4 ай бұрын

“He had everything given to him” Nuff said.

If they couldn’t take the so called abuse no more , why the hell didn’t they leave , then report the abuse ? They were well over 18 . Do the crime, be prepared to do the time .

@Kaleighboo98

Ай бұрын

It’s not easy to leave

@Stars_290

27 күн бұрын

they wanted the money. always the money

Totally fascinated by these videos Scott (and a bit in love with you!) You handle the subjects sensitively in spite of the disturbing details

Hi Scott… great video. My wife and I went on your tour in Hollywood back when you had one van and you were driving it. It was so good! I think that must have been mid to late 90’s? Any way, just a quick point regarding this video. When pellets (birdshot) are fired from a shotgun barrel, they stay in a very tight group (about an inch diameter) for several feet. They remain a very tight group of pellets. They are actually contained in a little plastic cup (wadding) that doesn’t separate from the shot for several feet. They don’t “spray” out of the front of the barrel (a common misconception). Actually, depending on the choke of the barrel, the spread is typically less than 1 inch per yard. So in this case, all the shot would have been grouped less than about 2 inches at most, causing devastating injuries as you describe. Thanks for what you do! Take care…

Loving these autopsy videos. Please keep doing them.

Well, one thing is for sure and that's they really hated their parents.

Love your videos Scott, you really do your homework buddy.

If I recall, his gunshot wound(s) were described as "explosive decapitation." When I read that description, it gave me shivers. I was a young active duty US Army Combat Medic and never forgot it. Years later, I got over it, but the level of trauma inflicted was so 'intimate' if not grotesque, I could not fathom someone living with that image without going insane.

@canisamator7937

4 ай бұрын

Unless that person molested you for years.

@balthazarbratt8194

3 ай бұрын

There's a video of the crime scene.

Would love to have been a fly in the car to hear what the two of them talked about after they did what they did before returning home.

Great video Scott love the coverage.

I live in New York close to the Amityville house, and I don't know how anybody could live there or in the Menendez house after those brutal murders or for that matter the Wonderland house would give me the total creeps,! Anyway great work again Scott

@dkand68

4 ай бұрын

The same thing, in Amityville house where those murders happened too. I am from Queens.

@cheribee968

4 ай бұрын

Wonderland would be heavy with dark vibes Just violent and really gruesome

@RosieYogi40

4 ай бұрын

This is how I feel about the Ramsey house in Boulder where JonBent was murdered.

@cjking4511

Ай бұрын

Amytiville house? NO. The Menendez house in Bh? Yes. ANY house older than 1991 with carpet over wood floors is hiding something that occurred. I always encourage buyers to look under the carpets. Typically a previous owner is trying to hide blood stained wood floors. The reason I would say Yes to the Menende house is location and the fact the murders took place in the front den meaning you could redo that room and not have to redo the entire house, buy it at a steep discount like the buyer did after the murders, and resell it for 10x as much years later.

Great video presentation as always Scott !

Thank you, Scott. This was outstanding. This case boils my blood. Your passion is palpable. Loyal fan, the other M

Incredible Stuff 😲 Love Your Channel Scott 🎙🎶

Sending love and prayers from the UK 🇬🇧 👏💜👍🙏🤗♿️ #ForeverPromotingPositiveDisabilityAwareness

They are where they belong. The crime was planned, and they knew what they were doing. Another great video, thanks Scott!

I'M just really glad they were aprehended quickly and they didn't get away with IT ‼️ and they actually told on themselves with ALL the lavish spending.🤔🧐🤨👁️👁️

The Mark Jackson Basketball card with the Brothers in the background 😱

Excellent video.

Love your work Scott!

Thanks!

@DearlyDepartedTours

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much 💃🏻

I'm with you on the interest in what they were wearing, what they ate, what they did during the day, what they were doing at the time they were killed. Like you said, not knowing that this is the last time for a lot of things.❤❤❤❤

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing

I remember being so annoyed every time someone said "and the were eating berries and cream" Yeah, OK - So. Now as an adult I guess THAT was a way of saying Jose and Kitty were (what?) fancy? It still is annoying. I appreciate your research, respect, professionalism with every case/in every video.

Idk how to feel about this case. I truly believe that they were sexually abused as children and they snapped especially since there was a LOT of money involved. They have family members that did say they had said they were being sexually abused by their father. Seeing what all dark things go on in Hollywood and their dad being an executive for a major record label company. All in all its a tragic case the “boys” could have def took a diff route.

The father was a scumbag and I’m sure the mother knew!

I did the Dearly Departed Tour in 2013 and saw the Menendez house

I Love your channel. You do an awesome job! I didn’t know you to close your museum. What a shame. Tks for all of your hard work on these videos. Much Love and admiration from Tennessee💕 4:57

I hope they don't get another trial. They don't deserve one. I remember watching the news, and right after their parents were murdered, they were out shopping. They had no remorse, and they still don't.

@leticiakormann7206

4 ай бұрын

Why should they feel remorse for getting rid of their rapists?

@Muirmaiden

4 ай бұрын

They do have remorse. I don't know what you watched.

@TheDureka1908

4 ай бұрын

And you know this how?

I agree with your opinions Scott. This was a fascinationg recap, great job!

Michelle Pfeiffer used to live there with her husband David E. Kelly when I visited it back in around either 2000 - 2003. Been there a few times and a friend told me that couch remained in the house under plastic for a year or two. Who knows if that is true.

As someone who was a victim of child molestation, I always felt sorry for the Menendez brothers and the horrific childhood they had to endure and felt they should have received a lesser sentence.

@lindabrennan4455

4 ай бұрын

I completely agree.

@sonyalynn4407

4 ай бұрын

I believe they are a lie. they were old enough to have a lot of proof but wants any. It does happen to lots of kids but not them they are guilty 😢

@lindabrennan4455

4 ай бұрын

@@sonyalynn4407 They are guilty of killing their parents but I believe the motivation behind the killings is the emotional, physical and sexual abuse they endured for many years. In my opinion there was plenty of evidence to substantiate their assertions. Lastly, and this is just my opinion and I don't mean it to come off as judgemental or cruel. They are both a little off which I believe is a result of their terrorized upbringing. The way they told their story of the abuse could not have been fake otherwise they both deserve an academy award.

@cindybrock1705

4 ай бұрын

They weren’t abused they were in trouble before the murders they were spoiled brats, I can’t believe people think they were sexually abused, they weren’t it was the only defense they could come up with, they wanted the money

@lindabrennan4455

4 ай бұрын

@@cindybrock1705 They used all of their money on the 1st trials. There was no money to offer anyone.

It's pretty disappointing to hear you say you don't care why someone would try and hit you with a baseball bat as you used in your example. The law does not treat every murderer or killer equally and for good reason. There are different degrees of murder and manslaughter because homicide can be the result of many different reasons and the law does take things such as heat of passion and provocation into consideration. This case is a very good example. If the brothers had been abused and molested and they are telling the truth about being afraid of the parents then that's not 1st degree murder under the law. That's exactly why they had two hung juries with most jurors not voting for 1st degree murder. A key component of 1st degree murder is malice. If their fear was at such a point where they genuinely believed they might be in danger then that removes the malice part of 1st degree murder.

Hi Jordan! Awesome story, Charles kuralt was one of My fave host's on cbs Sunday morning show, there was a genuine part of him that can be seen even just watching that show, he seemed like a good person. Thank you & take care. Oh yea that #21 was great as well😊

Great to see you back Scott.

They were breaking into homes and robbing them. The worst mistake their father made was to compensate the victims to save his sons from going to prison. These murders were always about the money thats why they killed their mother, so they would have complete control over the money.

@graveburgers

4 ай бұрын

Oh really, how come there is supporting evidence proving they had believed for nearly an entire year before their parents died that they had been disinherited? Why would they kill for money they didn’t think they were going to get? Use your brain.

@greenhouse4485

4 ай бұрын

Your dumb they were always after the money

@pageribe2399

3 ай бұрын

​@@graveburgersPlease show the will.

The prosecution was allowed to show evidence of the brothers spending post crime. Not sure why you're saying it wasn't allowed. Family members did refute it though as an uncle did have a conversation with Jose where Jose told him that he had told the brothers they were already out of the will. This is also brought up during the confession tape where Dr Oziel asks them how they felt about being told they had been disinherited many months prior to the killings to which they are both apathetic. So why kill to inherit money you don't think you'll be getting?

@dianabeurman364

4 ай бұрын

But, they did and they got their money!

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

@@dianabeurman364 Getting money and spending it afterwards does not mean it was a motive for the crime and there's a lot of evidence which contradicts the money motive. If we simply looked at someone spending money afterwards as being indicative of a motive then why did the younger brother spend hardly anything in comparison to the older brother?

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

​@@dianabeurman364 Seriously, how dense can you be?! If they weren't expecting money cuz they were out of the will, how does that show they did it for the money??

@canisamator7937

4 ай бұрын

@@Selena37-87 It doesn't!

@gigiarroyo3939

4 ай бұрын

@BarbaraCowdery They did spend a lot of money, especially the older brother Lyle. However, they grew up very rich with the parents constantly buying expensive things (they lived in a Beverly Hills mansion at the time of the killings!) If you watch the trial & the testimony of the people who actually knew them, there was so much abuse & dysfunction in the home yet the parents valued material possessions & image above everything else. The family spent $ like water & it had no real value to them. The brothers were never taught to deal with their emotions in any positive way or manage money as that would show “weakness.” Lyle always has expensive spending habits, he even bought his first girlfriend in high school an expensive fur coat! So that’s how they grew up. People forget that retail therapy is a thing where people indulge in buying products similar to over indulgence in drugs or alcohol to get over a trauma.

Thank you, Scott, for this informative video on the Menendez murders. I recall when it happened and it was premeditated. They should be in prison for the rest of their lives.

Well done. As morbid as it sounds, I too find things like this fascinating. I just discovered your channel and have been watching a lot of older content, figuring out that your ex is Graham Norton! I love the Graham Norton show! I too, live in Palm Springs and could've sworn I saw you the other day but I'm sure it wasn't! Love your channel. Wish I could've gone on one of your tours I would love to have gone on the Manson tour and seen David Oman's house. Keep up the good work

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

What?

Those brothers didn’t kill without a reason !!!!

@angiewilliams8502

4 ай бұрын

I agree

@cindyrussell1581

4 ай бұрын

They sure did, it's called creed.

Love ur screan back ground the changing colours 👌

One thing to understand about "birdshot" loads is that at very close range an ounce of lead is pretty much an ounce of lead. The individual pellet size is not really a factor because there is no mid air flight distance allowing the pellets to separate and they enter the target as essentially a single mass. This is evidenced by the autopsy reporting wad fragments present. The wad is a plastic cup that holds the shot and has a gas seal piston on its base, it's very light and falls away from the pellets in a few feet of mid air flight. If wad fragments are found that indicates the shot pellets, wad and all entered as a single unit and will do damage similar to a solid slug. Upon exiting the target, if individual pellets retain enough energy they can travel in random separate directions. Shots fired from a few feet away can show individual pellet holes but the damage will still be densely concentrated, as evidenced by massive bone fractures. Bird shot at very close range is no joke. Even the lightest 12ga target loads intended for breaking clay targets and intentionally loaded light to reduce recoil on the shooter are 7/8 ounce of shot at a velocity around 1150 ft per second, which is roughly the same velocity as the ubiquitous 9mm handgun caliber, and the mass of lead is roughly equivalent to three 9mm handgun bullets. So a close range shot from this light 12ga load would be similar to being hit by three 9mm handgun bullets in the same spot all at once. There are also ways to make any birdshot load into a "poor man's deer slug" by putting a careful razor blade cut in the outside diameter of the shotshell hull, causing the entire front of the shotshell to remain intact as essentially a plastic coated slug that will take deer at 100 yards the same as any other slug load.

The dinging facts bring some necessary levity and truth to this bizarre and troubling case. Great video as always, Scott!

I agree with you 100% Scott. Those boys were old enough to just leave. Abuse is horrible and indefensible but still no justification for the brutality of the murders! They made a disgusting choice which most likely shows they were no better than their parents. Very sad all the way around.

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

Nobody is saying abuse justifies the murders but the many years of horrific and repeated abuse explains their state of mind during the murders and explain why they were afraid and felt helpless. I'd rather defend abuse victims who fought back than two sadistic child molesters.

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

@@Selena37-87You don’t know if they were “molesters”. I have a good idea that they weren’t.

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreen They had evidence and witnesses in their first trial that corroborates the abuse and now we know the father had other victims besides the brothers who are now talking about what he did to them. Are the new victims liars too?

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreen Aren't we passed that phase of not believing victims when they speak out?!

@graveburgers

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreenOh really? Why did the father have child p0rn photos of his own sons then? Why was a prosecution witness caught out admitting on tape that Lyle Menendez had told him he and Erik Menendez had been sexually abused as children by their father?

Another great video thank you ❤

This one was horrible. Both victims were wounded multiple times and incapacitated before the fatal wounds. Kitty had blood stains on the soles of her shoes showing she was walking through blood after the shooting had started. One wound on her arm shows she was standing, moving her body when she was hit, but putting a hand up to defend against a shotgun.... An FBI forensic expert said the crime scene indicated a highly emotional state with no actual planning. Large numbers of shots were fired, without apparent targets. The shooting ended with the fatal shots, all the other injuries and gunshot wounds were inflicted before death.

Thank you for giving this attention to the Menendez Brothers. I do believe they were abused and should have gotten at least manslaughter, etc. The whole second trial was really awful with how the judge stripped the testimony about abuse and limited the charges that the jury could even decide on.

Great video Scott. It was very interesting, and I thoroughly enjoyed the whole story. Thank you for sharing it with us

Well if they were sexually abused for years they should be out of jail now. Its an horror that happened to them. 😢

Thank you Scott for sharing what happened almost 35 yrs ago. Using the pellets seems to me that they wanted to make there Parents suffer as they died. These two should never, ever see the outside of prison. Ever!

To the narrator: you say you don't like them, that you never liked them. When I look at this case and when I followed this case during the trial, for me it was never about whether or not I liked them. It was always about whether or not I believed them and what I thought should be their penalty. It feels to me like they trigger you somehow and your taking this personally.

@TheDureka1908

4 ай бұрын

Yes! I never understood the hatred.

@erinnemargretcruz5947

Ай бұрын

You say you have no respect for anyone in this case except for the prosecution because you are biased - and that you never liked the brothers. Yet, you were willing to donate some money to their defense and asked for an autograph. 1:30 Why donate and ask for something in return?🤔🤨

Can you investigate the Tankliff murders on Long Island New York?

5:37 If you look at the house now, on Google street view, it looks exactly the same.

Whether or not they were abused still does not excuse what they did. Ir was premeditated and brutal. They were adults and could have left and stood on their own 2 feet, got jobs serving coffee, coaching Kidd tennis. Moved to Alaska or somewhere else far away...the problem with these solutions is that the money would have been cut. They killed for money and maybe revenge because of the abuse.

Very interesting to learn about all the details in this case. How these boys could do such horrific things to their parents and still sleep at night is a mystery to me. Love your channel! 👍💜

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

I wonder how the parents slept at night doing unspeakable and disgusting things to their own sons.

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

@@Selena37-87The parents slept just fine because they didn’t do anything wrong.

@Selena37-87

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreen Are you for real rn?? They had evidence that they were abused and people knew about it and testified. The father took inappropriate pictures of the brothers as children

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreen They had almost no one come and defend them at trial and well over 50 people at that same trial all spoke about how they abused or mistreated their children. Can we please stop protecting child abusers.

Thanks Scott. Excellent reporting. I am a Death Hag, and appreciate all you do to keep our fellow Death Hags informed. Happy Easter.

@jaclynsmith3563

4 ай бұрын

I’m a death hag too!!

have you been sexually abused by a parent? if not, lucky you! i mean that. unless you have been you have no right to judge those who have. it's not black and white, many layers to trauma abuse. it murders your soul for LIFE.

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

Oh please. Just because someone hasn’t been abused doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion.

I don't believe 2 strong young men were "afraid for their lives". I think the dad was maybe verbally or emotionally not too nice but I think they embellished the abuse and planned this for a long time. Just my gut feeling. Their actions after weren't of 2 people relieved to have saved themselves. Something is very cold and calculating in their eyes

@lena_1994

15 күн бұрын

Embellished the abuse??! So the family that testified they knew about the abuse was also just them "embellishing" the abuse? The disgusting nude cp pictures the father took of them as children were presented in court just to "embellish" the abuse? There's another victim from the band Menudo who was also abused from Jose. Is he also just "embellishing" the abuse he suffered?? Fr, you people are despicable.

So wait, they’re not for sale according to the defense FUND. Do they not know what FUND means? 🤦🏼‍♂️

Fascinating! Thanks Scott.

My aunt, Betty Box, was an alternate juror in this case. What an ironic place for the lyricist for all of the music for all of the Benji movies to find herself in. NO??

Nice vlog Scott.

If the murders would have been committed during the SA I would say self-defense. However, these brothers clearly premeditated these gruesome, horrific murders, lied about not committing the murders, and then went on large spending sprees. No doubt there was a much better way to handle this, but the brothers didn’t want daddy writing them out of the Will for snitching. In the long run, it was all about greed and money. They deserve what they got!

@Kaleighboo98

Ай бұрын

They didn’t lie they said we did it and they did it out of fear they hurt us which the parents were hurting them

Thank you SM-super interesting

I like youre channel if its your web findadeath why dont you upgrade new celeberites who have died? I like to read there

The testimony of the boat captain who noticed the strange behaviour of the entire family the day before the parents were killed already tells you everything. Even he noticed the brothers were afraid of going near their parents and the overkill at the crime scene is indicative of that. I really have to question the morals of people who think the brothers are where they belong. If you hurt your children in that way then you had it coming. Everyone cheers for Gary Plauche when he kills his son's molestor but suddenly with the brothers it's "doesn't matter they still murdered". I've never seen a case show people to be such hypocrites. Edit: The mother already received fatal wounds prior to the reload and only one of the brothers reloaded one single shell. We only know this because he admitted to it. There was no way to prove conclusively that a reload had occurred due to how shotgun wounds are inflicted. It also is still misinformation to state the parents were eating berries and ice cream. There's no evidence of that in the crime scene and we have no clue when Kitty may have eaten anything during the day. No one is dismissing anyone who repeats the "berries and ice cream myth", you should just be telling the truth about crimes as serious as this rather than falling for salacious media myths.

@Americanamusements1970

4 ай бұрын

Thank you sir if the father was molesting the boys and the mother was not standing up for it I understand why they killed them both , however I'm a mommas boy and no matter what I'd never hurt mom but thoes boys are old men now ans should be out and should have all the money there parents had left with interest and enjoy there life they lived in prison at home now 30 more years of living in hell in prison ypu know the kids was raped in jail and at home prayers foe thoes two men

@victoriavancartier7379

4 ай бұрын

You're delusional......I was molested at 6 years old and I have no right to kill anyone....disgusting belief system you have....

@annc6046

4 ай бұрын

The berries and ice cream are not a myth. The bowls were left sitting on the coffee tables near the bodies.

@Muirmaiden

4 ай бұрын

@@annc6046 No, it was not. The video tape footage of the crime scene and testimony of the police detectives confirms that there was no food or bowls in the den (where the shooting took place), just a glass with a small amount of liquid in it on the coffee table.

@annc6046

4 ай бұрын

What is your evidence of molestation allegations against the parents 🤔. It's a very convenient allegation that could be easily used by a child who murders his/her parents. The victims are not here to defend themselves against such allegations. Hosea Mendeze notoriously being known for being an asshole still does not prove molested his sons.

Insightful. I get it about the "facts." Years ago I was a dispatcher for a utility company. Part of my job included monitoring the police and fire channels for struck poles and buildings on fire. It meant I had to be ready to send out a utility crew to shut off power and move wires when the police asked (had to wait for their call-when they were ready). One struck-pole accident resulted in an immediate, tragic death of a young person. The officers at the scene coded it immediately as a death. A ghoulish co-worker, who was not on call-duty, visited the accident scene then screamed at me the next day about the code, insisting that she was still alive and that I heard the wrong code. He later apologized, because I was right. I didn't want to fight about it. Just too awful. It was a sad call.

I watched the full trial here on 'lawtube" narrated by a criminal attorney about a year ago and have always felt these murders were 100% justified. Both parents were horrible, disgusting, vile human beings.

@Theaddora

4 ай бұрын

How dare you!

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

They are 100% guilty.

@canisamator7937

4 ай бұрын

@@beckigreen Duh! They admitted it.

You verbalized what I was thinking.....I don't think there is one person involved who wasn't despicable.

Great video. I love Scott Michaels so much. Learned a lot I didn’t know before. I do think they were abused and I think they have done enough time. The house they lived in is amazing. I saw pictures recently and omg it’s insane! I never realized how big it was

Then they went to a nba game and were caught on the Mark Jackson hoops card, and my brother has that card. They were already spending their parents money

They could not take it anymore.

Didn’t one of the brothers wear a wig too? The whole case is weird. I remember as a kid in london hearing about this, but since then I’ve seen the house and visit LA often for work. Surreal seeing the house among other fascinating curiosity’s in LA when you’re from London.

@horrorhistory7342

4 ай бұрын

Lyle started balding as a teenager most likely due to stress and abuse, Jose made him wear a hair piece because to him Lyle losing his hair messed with the image of perfection Jose was trying to have his family be. He also wanted to go into politics and to him Lyle being bald negatively impacted that.

@daveeashton241

4 ай бұрын

@@horrorhistory7342 I thought I had heard that story from somewhere - thank you for confirming!

I miss your tours. I remember we passed that house, so creepy. I'd love to take a tour again, if your ever back in LA.

I find the same things interesting Scott...like the way you present the history.

didnt hear about kitty helping eric type the script. thought he typed it by himself

I wish the other victims of their dad (menudo) would have come forward during the trial.

@myzacky96

4 ай бұрын

Your right, there were other victims beside the boys

@leheli7838

4 ай бұрын

I believe Menudo knew that if they came forward against Jose (and supported the Erik & Lyle), their career would be over. Interestingly enough, it was over anyway.

@conditionallyunconditional5691

4 ай бұрын

There werent any at the time. There was not much to fear if they were SA victims. Maybe public some embarrassment. To wait decades, before finally admitting such, makes it more difficult to prove it ever happened.

@loganstroganoff1284

4 ай бұрын

​@@leheli7838not for tricky ricky!

@beckigreen

4 ай бұрын

I don’t believe him. Funny how he waited until now, when the Menendez Brother’s were getting popular in the news again.

About a month ago, 48 Hours had a special called, The Menendez Brothers Fight for Freedom. Didn't watch it, but gathered that they are getting a lot of sympathy because of the alleged abuse. I remember the case very well.

@leedevitt4528

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the fight for their freedom is gaining traction. I don't get it. Very sadly lots of kids are abused and they leave when old enough and don't kill their patents. These people were brutally killed. The brothers (not kids) had many options to get away but they wanted the money. If the abuse allegations are true, that's sad and they have the rest of their lives in prison to heal.

Great video

We'll never know the truth. But it seemed to be planned to an extent.The method was absolutely brutal. To shoot them like fish in a barrel was done with malice. Once the trigger is pulled, they must go with that narrative. "Years of physical, emotional & sexual abuse" used as the motive. If it was true, Id have assumed their mother wouldve been spared. Usually one of the parents is also victimized, out of fear from reprisal. But, these two played it as if they were the victims...which is a common approach. Much is left out of the case. The father was slowly limiting financial support. The parents wanted them to become successful & independent or at least contribute to their desired lifestyles. They were spoiled and felt self entitled to their parent's wealth. Having eyewitnesses pop up now, won't change their guilt. Where were they back then? I highly doubt this murder was connected to any kind of conspiracy, which would change the outcome. People lie, concrete evidence doesn't! They immediately began spending like kings. They were too ignorant to realize, their own actions were suspicious and usual. Neither one was empathetic or remorseful for their parent's death. They rationiz3d all of this away with lies.They can rot where they are today. They almost got away with it. About 20% of our world population are psycho/ sociopathics with narcissistic tendencies. Such evil is around us, nonstop! Be aware of these parasites.

@caloresm

4 ай бұрын

We do know the truth, just because you know next to nothing about the case doesn't mean there is a grey area. The ab4se happened, 100%, and anyone who is presented with all the evidence and still refuses to see it is an absolute piece of sh5t. Regardless if they planned it, or if they werent in fear for their lives, or if they spent their own money, or if they felt remorse (which is extremely egotistical to ask of them, ab4se victims dont own you tears for their ab4sers). Why should the mother be spared when she was as abusive (emotionally, physically and s3xually) as the father was?

@conditionallyunconditional5691

4 ай бұрын

@@caloresm I know a shitload more then you. I'm not biased & I dont hurl insults toward comments, I disagree about . You have zero idea, regarding anything about me. It appears you be running purely on your emotions, not facts or the truth. 🤭

@canisamator7937

4 ай бұрын

You are so clueless about this case, it's laughable! Go watch the trial- it's here on KZread . I guarantee you will have a much different view. Of course they were NOT empathetic to a man who sodomized them & a woman who allowed it & blamed her children for her husband's vile, obscene behavior.

@conditionallyunconditional5691

4 ай бұрын

@@caloresm special needs. 😄

The passage you read from the book about the brain - wow. Never heard that before! Makes me want to read that book and see what other things are kind of kept from the public. One thing for sure is those boys had a lot of anger toward their parents for what ever the reason. That kind of overkill I feel shows that anger

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

Over kill in parricide cases involving abuse is very common. It's usually a combination of fear, anger and confusion. Dr Ann Burgess described it as being similar to when people have phobias of insects and they just keep swatting and hitting the insect even when it's clearly already dead.

I'm sorry I'm just compelled to correct specific misinformation in this video. Kitty was not filling out Erik's college application. UCLA brochures were found at the crime scene. Not applications. Erik had already been accepted and was going to be attending in the fall so I'm not sure why Kitty would be filling anything out. This is exactly the type of stuff that recent doc on FOX called out. There's no need to lie about things like this.

@KateRambo

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think Scott is lying, just got his facts messed around. What’s undeniable and an easy fact to get straight though is that the brothers planned a premeditated murder where they brutally killed their parents.

@Muirmaiden

4 ай бұрын

​@@KateRamboActually he got that wrong. It was not premeditated, and an FBI crime scene analyst (Dr. Ann Burgess), determined that it was an unplanned killing. He hasn't done in depth research on this case and has stated misinformation.

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

@@KateRambo That's irrelevant to my comment. Scott was stating something untrue and that's not the only misinformation in this video. They were convicted of 1st degree murder fair enough but personally I think it's debatable whether they premeditated the murders or not and people who are aware of all the facts in this case would know why that is. They had two separate hung juries in their first trial with most not voting for 1st degree murder. That should already tell you that the defense was able to raise a large amount of reasonable doubt. As one of the jurors from their first trial stated "I think it's as possible that they bought those guns for self protection as it is possible that they bought them because they were planning to kill their parents".

@KateRambo

4 ай бұрын

@@YourEverydaySheep I think the fact they went out, reloaded, then went back in and THEN waited for the police to show up all shows level of planning and premeditation. A hung jury doesn’t really mean anything positive, it just means some good lawyering from both sides. They are both where they belong because of their actions regardless of what drove them to do it.

@YourEverydaySheep

4 ай бұрын

@@KateRambo Only one of them reloaded a single shell and you only know that because he admitted to it. There was no way to prove a reload had occurred and prosecution experts testified to that. How exactly does waiting for police to show up show planning and premeditation? You shoot someone and then just sit there waiting for the police to find you? They got two hung juries because there was a huge amount of reasonable doubt raised about whether they planned to kill or planned to defend. I'll list some things which support this 1) They had plans to meet a friend at 9:30 PM that night. The parents were not killed until 10:00 PM and they never met the friend. It is not consistent with a plan as you've created someone who can say you weren't there when you were supposed to be there. However it is consistent with what the brothers testified to. You'd have to essentially argue that the brothers knew their friend was waiting for them and they were half an hour late but still chose to kill their parents regardless for some reason? 2) As testified to by the legend Dr Ann Burgess who used her expertise from working with the FBI on crime scene analysis and killer profiling, the crime scene was disorganised, indicated a lack of planning and high emotionality. These crime scenes are typically seen in fear based heat of passion killings. 3) They used shotguns as weapons which indicates urgency. Not only are shotguns poor weapons of choice as they are much harder to conceal but they also create a large amount of noise when used especially when there's two of them. Shotguns are used for home protection and in California there was a 2 week waiting period to buy handguns. If you're planning to kill your parents then why can't you wait 2 weeks to buy quieter weapons that are much easier to conceal and dispose of? Maybe because you think you won't be alive in 2 weeks. 4) The location of the crime itself. It was a hot summers night in a neighbourhood where although the houses are big they are quite close to each other so much so that you could hear the television set of your neighbour when it was turned all the way up. Neighbours had their windows open and many did hear the gun shots but chose not to call the police. The police station was also a mere 5 minutes away. 5) The confession tape. There are many statements in the confession tape which contradict a planned killing. For example a portion of the tape where Erik can be heard saying "I had no choice, I had no choice, I would have taken any other choice" This just gives you a baseline. This case is not a simple black and white one. I assume if you think they are where they belong then you also think someone like Gary Plauche should have gone to prison for life right?

We all know that sa your children is and was very common. I do believe that is what happened. In my opinion jon benet as well..

I remember going by the house on your tour Scott. Nothing weird happened that day. I do believe the boys were abused, but a lot of people are & don’t kill their parents. I think they used it as a justification to help themselves to the $$$

Another excellent presentation. Thanks for your work and care. Always puzzling to me how people are willing to sit through gratuitous gore flicks for the ostensible sake of entertainment and thrills, and yet they balk at objective discussions of reality. Anyhow, as always thank you for your work. Cheers!

Kitty is from Oak Lawn Illinois, which 1 town over from me. It's not important but a little thing I know. I will say i believe them about the abuse.

@myzacky96

4 ай бұрын

So do I

I agree