MAYDAY. Immediate return due to engine failure on takeoff at El Paso. Real ATC
THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
10-JUL-2024. A World Atlantic Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-83 (MD83), registration N804WA, performing WAL101 / WL101 from El Paso International Airport, TX (USA) to McAllen Miller International Airport, TX (USA) shortly after takeoff declared MAYDAY, reported engine failure and request return to El Paso International Airport. The airplane stopped the climb at about 5500 feet and started the approach. About 4 minutes after departure they landed safely on runway 26 left at El Paso and vacated the runway. When they were on the ground the flight crew was informed that they had the right engine fire. The airplane stopped on taxiway L and the emergency services extinguished the fire.
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Timestamps:
00:17 The airplane is taking off from El Paso International Airport
00:52 “MAYDAY-MAYDAY, we lost an engine”. They are returning
03:20 World Atlantic Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-83 lands at El Paso
03:59 Controller informs about right engine fire. Communications on the ground
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THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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Text version of communication - Made by Author.
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HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.
Пікірлер: 54
One of the clearest, most deliberate and commanding "MAYDAY" calls I've ever heard.
@herkloader34
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, ok. Great MAYDAY call, yet everything else was shit. Panic, little checklist usage, lousy communication, landed on the wrong runway without request, then wanted to taxi into the gate without emergency response vehicles checking first. Also, full plane and no evacuation knowing there's a fire. But hey, he did a good MAYDAY call so I guess that's impressive to you.
@MickiSel
28 күн бұрын
They got the bird down safely in a high stress situation right after takeoff, and handled the situation really well. I'm sure you would've done much better though.
@vbscript2
26 күн бұрын
I'm not sure that "deliberate and commanding" is how I'd describe that call. "Panicked" would be a more accurate description. But, hey, he said the word "Mayday," so KZread comments are happy.
@brunotcs
25 күн бұрын
oh no , we've got anti-MAYDAY "emergency declarers" here 😅
The MD80 is not an easy plane to fly let alone during a critical emergency. These guys did great.
@herkloader34
28 күн бұрын
Didn't appear to be anything close to great.
@kam_a3216
28 күн бұрын
@@herkloader34 let’s see how you do!
@PetrolHeadBrasil
28 күн бұрын
@@kam_a3216 was a mess!
Wow, thanks for your channel!
I'm not a pilot but wonder why when an aircraft has a problem on takeoff that requires immediate return the aircraft can't stay with the tower and not get shuttled around to departure, approach, etc. Seems valuable time is lost changing frequencies, establishing new communications.
@Republic3D
28 күн бұрын
Yep, in certain areas of the world you'll get a new frequency with only the emergency aircraft and one controller doing the coms so there's no need to worry about everything else. AMS is really good at that stuff.
@saxmanb777
28 күн бұрын
Tower controller only has control of aircraft immediate vicinity of the airport. The radar controller has a better view of the area and can handle both the emergency aircraft while steering other aircraft away from that aircraft.
@brycehughes8840
28 күн бұрын
@@Republic3D What's AMS?
@Republic3D
28 күн бұрын
@@brycehughes8840 Amsterdam Schiphol Airport. IATA: AMS, ICAO: EHAM.
@andij605
28 күн бұрын
@@brycehughes8840Schiphol airport next to AMSterdam in the Netherlands
Low altitude alert, dang that was scary.
@gidoca
28 күн бұрын
Especially because it looked like they kept sinking after that.
How many times do they need to tell them souls and fuel? My god, why can’t they approach controller give it to tower when they hand them off?
@DrSlackr
23 күн бұрын
Wdym. The departure controller asked them at 2:02, but didn't get a response. That's why the tower controller asked again around 4:30.
@eucliduschaumeau8813
20 күн бұрын
The pilot on radio didn’t seem to know how to communicate.
Wait, they were cleared to RWY 4 and then just brought it down on 26L?
@norfindir70
28 күн бұрын
they took down a burning plane and survived.. any runway would do then
@PiskeyFaeri
28 күн бұрын
It's unclear and that part of the communication may be missing. See 3:10, where it says that we don't know. It is entirely possible that the pilots said "nope, we're going to runway 26", because in a mayday situation they have the right to declare which runway they want and nee. It's up to ATC to move everyone else. I'm only guessing, it might be that the aircraft couldn't circle far enough to land at runway 4, but they had runway 26 in sight and were able to line up.
@YouCanSeeATC
28 күн бұрын
The recording was broken. So probably they got a clearance to land on 26 left.
@marcelogouveia9614
28 күн бұрын
Once you declared Mayday/Emergency, you are going to land where you deemed safest. Great job pilots!
@JohnSmith-zi9or
28 күн бұрын
@@marcelogouveia9614 Concur 100%. It is refreshing to see pilots actually fly the airplane instead of delaying, "we need to talk to company", ATC: "What gate are you doing to?", blah blah blah. They had an engine failure in an airplane that's not exactly the best performing one engine inoperative, hot temperatures, higher altitude. They spent minimal time in the air. Well done.
You wanna come back and land immediately? Change frequencies then
@DrSlackr
23 күн бұрын
Well yeah, since the approach/departure controllers are directing the other traffic in the area they have a much better overview of the situation and can steer other aircraft out of the way.
When you can sense the task saturation of the pilot, maybe don't keep sending them to other frequencies, and repeating the same asinine question 2 seconds apart. Give them a minute. Keep them on frequency. Ask the questions you need until they're done running checks ffs.
@alan_davis
28 күн бұрын
It's not in real time...
@kevobuddy10
28 күн бұрын
silences are skipped
Gee I wonder what this airline was doing in El Paso?
@KevinWindsor1971
28 күн бұрын
Going from one border town to another. They do ICE flights.
@armyavi8tor
28 күн бұрын
World Atlantic a charter airline. Their mad dogs have been rode hard and put away wet. Years ago they had one with the gear collapse in AEX and broke the wing spar. Aircraft is still sitting there on the ramp. Same mission with ICE detainees.
@alan_davis
28 күн бұрын
Flying planes. What do you think?
@clqudy4750
28 күн бұрын
Crashing and burning.
@gordo1163
28 күн бұрын
ICE flights
Pilot barely seemed proficient in English. Takeoff clearance was up to 17,000 but pilot read back "cleared 170" with no correction from the controller.
@t.j.jeffries1263
28 күн бұрын
1-7-0 is shorthand for 17,000 feet, so he read it back correctly.
@adb012
28 күн бұрын
@@t.j.jeffries1263 .... No, 17000ft (QNH) and FL 170 (17000 ft QFE) are two different altitudes unless the altimeter setting is 29.92".
@paddyohenry6428
27 күн бұрын
@@t.j.jeffries1263 That's not a flight level
@vagirl19
27 күн бұрын
@@paddyohenry6428yes it is, they do not say flight levels in thousands
@paddyohenry6428
27 күн бұрын
@@vagirl19 We're talking about USA airspace. Our flight levels start at 180.
Hmmm... An ancient MD-83 flying from a border city to the interior with 141pax? I'm guessing this is one of Mayorkas' clandestine migrant flights that we all get to pay for with our taxes and massive social costs.
@vbscript2
26 күн бұрын
El Paso to McAllen is pretty much the opposite of "to the interior." Both cities are right on the border, but McAllen is much farther South, only about 60 miles from the Gulf.
@kylethomas7467
26 күн бұрын
@@vbscript2 How dare you get in the way of a good rant.
@adamp9348
15 күн бұрын
Definitely an ICE charter, but more likely just a normal facility transfer flight. Both ELP & MFE have ICE detention centers.