Max Tegmark - How Vast is the Cosmos?

Everyone knows that the universe is huge, but no one could have imagined how staggeringly immense the universe, or multiple universes, may actually be. It stops your breath. How to get a measure of the size of the cosmos? What would it mean if the cosmos were literally infinite?
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Max Tegmark is Professor of Physics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He holds a BS in Physics and a BA in Economics from the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden. He also earned a MA and PhD in physics from University of California, Berkeley.
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  • @thoughtsurferzone5012
    @thoughtsurferzone5012 Жыл бұрын

    The universe isn't just bigger than you think it is, it's bigger than you can think.

  • @nagualdesign

    @nagualdesign

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's infinitely big. It may well be smaller than that but there's no way it's bigger.

  • @drbobsnightmare2521

    @drbobsnightmare2521

    Жыл бұрын

    Deep question for a shallow mind. A man can drown in 2 inches of water.🤯

  • @DNA2000-8bit

    @DNA2000-8bit

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not big. Big requires an acceptance that the universe is finite, and that some portion of it is "big" in relation to the "whole." If it's infinite, none of this is truly big nor small.

  • @m0j0d84

    @m0j0d84

    Жыл бұрын

    Ur all wrong

  • @ArkusCaesar

    @ArkusCaesar

    Жыл бұрын

    Top comment👍, you win the black hole my brain collapsed into while reflecting on the size of the universe! 🕳️

  • @gascid
    @gascid Жыл бұрын

    Max is just plain enjoyable to listen to and learn from.

  • @pangeaproxima9446

    @pangeaproxima9446

    Жыл бұрын

    ok, ok...

  • @alanssnack1192

    @alanssnack1192

    Жыл бұрын

    he sounds tarded to me

  • @clownworld-honk410
    @clownworld-honk410 Жыл бұрын

    Like listening to Max. A charismatic academic AND with a good haircut... A rare phenomenon!

  • @CesarClouds

    @CesarClouds

    Жыл бұрын

    He refutes the argument the worse the haircut the higher the IQ.

  • @Shadow-In-The-East

    @Shadow-In-The-East

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CesarClouds Ahh yes, the famous theorem: Intelligent Quotient= [Inverse square of the fade + cos(months since last haircut)] / social (un)awareness.

  • @CesarClouds

    @CesarClouds

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Shadow-In-The-East Lol

  • @michaeltrower741
    @michaeltrower741 Жыл бұрын

    That long pause and moment of deep silence between them at 13:07 is truly unnerving -- like they've reached the edge of everything and aren't sure what to make of it.

  • @David.C.Velasquez

    @David.C.Velasquez

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I felt that.

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 Жыл бұрын

    If the past is any indication of what the future holds, it would appear that we are destined to forever underestimate the size of our reality.

  • @PetraKann

    @PetraKann

    Жыл бұрын

    …..size doesnt matter. It’s the nature of reality that interests me

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PetraKann maybe nature is emergent from reality?

  • @johnbrzykcy3076

    @johnbrzykcy3076

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@PetraKann I'm interested in both, the size of the universe and the "nature of reality" of the Cosmos. I'm struggling to understand is reality of the universe, including earth, pointing to a Creator. But that's a different subject.

  • @kos-mos1127

    @kos-mos1127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnbrzykcy3076 There is nothing that points to a Creator. We do underestimate the size of the Cosmos.

  • @mitseraffej5812

    @mitseraffej5812

    Жыл бұрын

    The universe in it’s entirety must surely be of infinite size and must always have been. Even at the moment of the Big Bang when the universe was of infinite density it was also of infinite size. However when the observable universe which is of finite size, was of infinite density ( at the moment of the Big Bang ) it must have been of zero size.

  • @SonatasysInc
    @SonatasysInc Жыл бұрын

    Such immensity yet we are trapped on this planet, isolated physically but exploring far beyond our isolation through brilliant scientists such as Max.

  • @leonreynolds77
    @leonreynolds77 Жыл бұрын

    This man is so brilliant, I highly respect him. Max Tegmark is a brilliant man.

  • @pangeaproxima9446

    @pangeaproxima9446

    Жыл бұрын

    ok, ok...

  • @artdonovandesign

    @artdonovandesign

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed he is. I thoroughly enjoy his conversations any time I view them.

  • @Jesusismykin

    @Jesusismykin

    Жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about he doesn't know that God is real ,how smart can he be.

  • @gregjhill
    @gregjhill Жыл бұрын

    “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  • @OspreyFlyer

    @OspreyFlyer

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a young man when that book then BBC TV series came out. Enjoyed both. Those were the days.

  • @fred_2021

    @fred_2021

    9 ай бұрын

    Prostetnic Vogon JeltzI'll will tell his auntie :)

  • @snappycattimesten
    @snappycattimesten Жыл бұрын

    I love this conversation. Flowing, intelligent and enjoyable. Added to my favourites.

  • @robn8036
    @robn8036 Жыл бұрын

    The excitement in this guy face as he speaks and explains things is something !!!!!👍

  • @mosaicmind88
    @mosaicmind88 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great series. Am I smart enough to understand any of it? No. But I appreciate the challenge.

  • @therick363

    @therick363

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s how we grow. Challenging ourselves.

  • @S3RAVA3LM

    @S3RAVA3LM

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what public school intends. High majority of these modern academicians are not what they seem - their position is that of the consensus, dialectic that of a neophyte, progress measured in technological advancements only, today they're not doing genuine science, rather something abhor. You don't need to out smart them, let them have their episteme; you need only out think them, and when you can you see they're only salesmen. They don't know anything, physicists don't know anything. Ask them some questions and see for yourself. They think babies comes from hospitals, food from store, electricity from the power plants.

  • @therick363

    @therick363

    Жыл бұрын

    @@S3RAVA3LM that’s a lot of big claims and disrespect. So have anything to back it up?

  • @johnbrzykcy3076

    @johnbrzykcy3076

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@therick363 Its difficult to challenge yourself when you realize you are no scholar and seemingly the more you learn, the less you know. But we keep trying, inch by inch. Hmm.. I won't get far with that approach !

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814

    @SamoaVsEverybody814

    Жыл бұрын

    Which is why scientific philosophers are so incredible. They've mastered the mathematics of it all enough to convey the information to us in a cohesive manner without the mathematics

  • @lowket
    @lowket Жыл бұрын

    Excellent interview, as always.

  • @Edison73100
    @Edison73100 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy this entire series because the more questions are asked the further from the truth it seems to be going, which I think is great because it just shows how little we know.

  • @jacqueslucas8616
    @jacqueslucas8616 Жыл бұрын

    Great talk !

  • @alanbrady420
    @alanbrady420 Жыл бұрын

    Could watch max tegmark all day he’s fascinating

  • @antonandonov2652
    @antonandonov2652 Жыл бұрын

    Max is amazing, I love the way he explains the things, so down to earth.

  • @fred_2021

    @fred_2021

    9 ай бұрын

    Yep. AI should modelled on Max.

  • @simonhibbs887
    @simonhibbs887 Жыл бұрын

    Personally I see mathematics as a language. It's a medium for expressing ideas and relationships very precisely. So to me a 'physical law' expressed mathematically is just a very precise description of physical relationships and behaviour. So I'm not at all surprised that mathematics is so good at describing physics. Since mathematics is a very precise, rigorous and consistent language all that means is that the behaviour of physical systems is very consistent. Well, I hope the universe behaves consistently. If it doesn't we're in big trouble. That doesn't mean mathematics defines that behaviour though. The behaviour comes first. The problem is of course we don't know why we see this particular behaviour, or why the particles and constants in physics are the way they are. Maybe maths is fundamental, but I don't think that logically follows from mathematics being good at describing the universe.

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    Tegmark is suggesting that it is not just that maths is good at describing the universe, it defines the universe. [In other universes the defining maths (laws,rules) might be different.] What does it mean to say this? Does it mean that maths creates the universe, like a fractal? I have no idea.

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    Are numbers language? Is Sudoku a crossword puzzle?

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    Жыл бұрын

    Maths describes ... functions. Maths itself ... is a Function. Universal Functions ... is the hypothesis for Sir Issac Newton's Watchmaker Analogy over 300 years ago and any MACHINE Analogy used to explain "Intelligent design." Newtonian Physics ... is simply everything (space, time, laws, matter, energy) is a Function .... that can only be made & assembled by ... an Intelligence. This is why Religions are natural phenomena, because Man is an Intelligence with a Mind & Intellect .. to always deduced from OBSERVATION ... that anything that has purpose, form, function & design ... can only be made by an entity like Man (Intelligence). Science is a method of FUNCTION ... created by Man (a Function) ... to explain natural phenomena (functions) ... using fixed Laws of Nature(functions). The Scientific Method is: 1. Observe 2. Hypothesis 3. Test & Predict 4. Conclude 5. Refine. It is easily to test & make predictions ... with the hypothesis ... that everything from the quantum level to the cosmic ... is a Function. But nobody what's to test .... Universal Functions ....because they have & Mind & freewill .. to think, believe, say & do whatever they want ... and .... they all know that anything that is a Function can only be made by an intelligence. All Systems ... are Functions. And the Universe ... is the only known Isolated Thermodynamic System ( NATURAL function). Check the origin of any thermodynamic System? Newton was correct. Everything is a NATURAL Function ... that must be made by an UNNATURAL intelligence.

  • @Bill..N

    @Bill..N

    Жыл бұрын

    In my humble opinion, you are quite right Simon.. The genesis of math is rooted solely in logical descriptors of our environment. Simple equations, however, have evolved beyond our ability to accurately clarify their meaning using any human language..The "Unreasonable effectiveness of math" is STILL a philosophical mystery.. Peace.

  • @simonhibbs887

    @simonhibbs887

    Жыл бұрын

    @@glaubs65 "Are numbers language? Is Sudoku a crossword puzzle?" Numbers are labels we use for various kinds of mathematical objects. Natural numbers, real numbers, quantities, elements of a series, etc. We actually use them in many different ways. I understand Tegmark's point, I think that when he talks about the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics, I just disagree that this is evidence for his thesis. He might be correct, but I just don't buy that line of argument. That mathematics accurately describes the universe just means the universe is a consistent system, that's all.

  • @iamall964
    @iamall964 Жыл бұрын

    What we humans perceive as the observable universe is a very very small amount of what is out there.

  • @TheFREDAMAN
    @TheFREDAMAN Жыл бұрын

    When I first read "Our Mathematical Universe" I threw the book across the room. Then I picked it up, and read it again and again. It's one thing to say our universe is "described" by mathematics, but to state that it "IS a mathematical structure" .. that was a shock. How Tegmark made the leap was just as shocking. I am assuming that he using the premise that ""All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one. Anyway I really am proud that there are physicists like Tegmark, Everett, and yes even Witten who are willing to risk their reputations on what might be dead end theories. But as a plea to all scientists, please leave out the word "infinite" . It is a sign that you have given up.

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын

    "Reflection is key to unlock celestial mysteries beyond the dark veil." -- Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

  • @kahlrhoam6769
    @kahlrhoam6769 Жыл бұрын

    A excellent interview! Max is one of my all time favorite Theoretical(?) Physicists! I ress as d , back in the early nineties, that there were understood, mathematical structures, that our multiverse used to ‘spec out’ the values of physics, called ‘Goeshe #s’; I’ve never seen that theory since. Would anyone else ever heard, or even know about theee ‘Goeshe #s’? 🖖✨

  • @benjamintrevino325
    @benjamintrevino325 Жыл бұрын

    The moral of the story is that we're the only friends we have that can get to us in time to save us, so we should try being a little nicer to each other.

  • @ScientificZoom
    @ScientificZoom Жыл бұрын

    When max proposed the black hole firewall and no infinity I became astonished. Began thinking of the edge of universe, a wall like structure at the end of our universe. But felt I dissolved to earlier. What will universe bring when we get there is just fascinating to me

  • @MegaLynn11
    @MegaLynn11 Жыл бұрын

    soo good thx

  • @MrSanford65
    @MrSanford65 Жыл бұрын

    Everything has to exist being supported by something other than itself. Therefore there cant be “ Nothing “ beyond the universe because the universe cannot support itself suspended by “nothing “. There has to be another dimension beyond the universe that is not of the universe or of what we call reality to support the reality of that we live in. Our universe is a bottle that has to be spun.

  • @kos-mos1127

    @kos-mos1127

    Жыл бұрын

    “Everything has to exist being supported by something other than itself” This answer leads to it turtles all the way down because then the other dimension need to be explained and so fourth as it would still be part of the Cosmos just in a space casually disconnected from ours.

  • @peterbondy
    @peterbondy Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been searching for a globe like Max is using for years and can’t find one anywhere. I find it hard to imagine anyone that loves cosmology not wanting one.

  • @nagualdesign

    @nagualdesign

    Жыл бұрын

    What were you searching with, a blind man's stick? An archeologist's brush? 😊 I just used Google and found one in under 10 seconds. I find it hard to imagine that if you really wanted one you wouldn't have looked for one online.

  • @peterbondy

    @peterbondy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nagualdesign it’s been a couple of years since I last searched. I gave up in the end. It’s nice to know someone is finally doing it. It definitely wasn’t available back then and a manufacturer I approached wondered why anyone would even want one (🤦🏼‍♀️🙄)! So thanks for the info, I’ll have a hunt. Time to dust off that archeologist brush of mine! 😁

  • @nagualdesign

    @nagualdesign

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterbondy 😊 Happy hunting!

  • @quantumJJ
    @quantumJJ Жыл бұрын

    this is part of my everyday reflexions...😎🥶💫⚛

  • @Vorador666
    @Vorador666 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, Max really show us in this video you can be high as fuck and still give a pretty cool interview

  • @OspreyFlyer

    @OspreyFlyer

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @peternelson7048

    @peternelson7048

    Жыл бұрын

    He's feeling pretty glonky 😂

  • @SKY-wt2pp

    @SKY-wt2pp

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally baked....nice and crispy.

  • @ZoltanTemesvari_temy
    @ZoltanTemesvari_temy Жыл бұрын

    Max is 56 years old so good genetics indeed.

  • @quantumkath
    @quantumkath Жыл бұрын

    Max Tegmark quotes many of the same things in the book by Päs, Heinrich. 2023. The One (Basic Books) Excellent read!

  • @OspreyFlyer

    @OspreyFlyer

    Жыл бұрын

    Does sound interesting!

  • @quantumkath

    @quantumkath

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OspreyFlyer Enjoy!

  • @brians3948
    @brians3948 Жыл бұрын

    Love this guy. Awesome mind.

  • @Hambastegy
    @Hambastegy Жыл бұрын

    Max, great scientist and philosopher.

  • @bittertruth5770
    @bittertruth5770 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff for Sci-Fi movies!!!

  • @theotormon
    @theotormon Жыл бұрын

    That pause at 13:05.

  • @denissemedina6023

    @denissemedina6023

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @peweegangloku6428
    @peweegangloku6428 Жыл бұрын

    I think, in a very simple language, space refers to vacuum. So when the expression, "space is expanding" is used, I wonder, "Expanding to where?" When something expands, it displaces something or occupies a space that was previously unoccupied. So what is the expanding space displacing or what was the state of the unoccupied condition (or let me say "space" to which space is expanding? I think it is accurate to say the universe (the totality of matter and energy) is expanding rather than saying space is expanding. Space is an infinity therefore it is not possible for it to expand.

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    I can see the absurdity of a finite universe (what's outside it?) But I'm not sure I get what the absurdities of an infinite universe.are? Is it just the normal problems physicists have with infinity, which I don't really grasp either. It's mathematical right? Infinities are bad for equations? Am I right? I'm not a physicist and I have no idea why they are bad for equations.

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    Жыл бұрын

    The Universe is an isolated thermodynamic System ... with space, time, Natural Laws, matter, & energy ... and ... increasing energy. A thermodynamic System can not be INFINITE .... as this will allow IMPOSSIBLE thermodynamic processes ... producing CONSTANT entropy. All thermodynamic Systems ... are functions made by an intelligence due to the information they possess ... and ..originate from the SURROUNDING System ... which must provide the space, time Laws of NATURE, matter, energy & intelligence ... to exist & to function. The Surrounding System ... of the Universe that has fixed Laws of NATURE & time ... must be UNNATURAL, infinite, timeless with unnatural laws & an unnatural intelligence ... otherwise it is a thermodynamic System that originates from the SURROUNDING Systems. Time & the Laws of Nature ... are part of the Universe ... which is FINITE. Infinity & timelessness ... are only part of the SURROUNDING ... Unnatural System. Why is there no origin theory of the Universe ... of a NATURAL System expanding in an ... UNNATURAL System? Why are they all ignoring the Universe being a Thermodynamic System with increasing entropy ... and any Machine Analogies used by Theists to explain "Intelligent Design?" Simple. God created Man in His likeness ... with freewill ... to think, believe, say & do whatever He/She wants ... and to live forever as HIs Children ... but the moment Man sins he will die ( body & soul). Time & the Laws of Nature ... began less than 6 x 1000 years ago. God had a reason for the 6 day Creation & the 7th Day belongs to Him .. 1 day is like a year or 1000 years depending on the Prophesies in the Bible ... and .. Jesus (God's Son) will return to rule for 1 x 1000 years before Judgement Day with 144 000 Jews who were murdered in END TIMES believing in the Christ. The current Jewish year .... since the Fall of Man ... is 5783. ... with most religious Jews believing they are living in END TIMES and that their promised Messiah will appear ( or return) to save them and bring everlasting peace to the world. Science completely supports God creating Man ... less than 6 000 years ago ... in an UNNATURAL System, with unnatural laws that is infinite & timeless. And the Christians & Jews ... have identified the ... Unnatural Intelligence(God) who made a Natural INtelliigence(Man) ... and His 7 x 1000 year long "Salvation" Plan.

  • @peweegangloku6428

    @peweegangloku6428

    Жыл бұрын

    @@glaubs65 Something infinite does not grow or expand, it is already endless. Had the universe been infinite, it would not be expanding. For the fact that the universe is evidently expanding, it is clear that it has not reached infinity and will never reach infinity no matter how long it takes. At best, it will keep expanding for all future eternity. Infinite space (empty, dark, cold endless space) is ever there awaiting the universe's expansion. What lies beyond the universe is described in these words: "stars with no set course, for which the blackest darkness stands reserved forever." - Jude 13 in the Bible. Our mathematics for infinity is always going in the opposite direction. Instead of getting infinitely larger, it gets infinitely smaller. That being the case, we have to make a logical assumption: infinity is equal to one. With this assumption, all other things will be infinitely less than one but more than zero. That goes in line with our current mathematics where we easily get descending infinity.

  • @stevenschilizzi4104

    @stevenschilizzi4104

    Жыл бұрын

    Infinities are bad for equations (and predictions and understanding) because they make equationd unsolvable, even meaningless. They break down rationality - at least, human rationality. « And then there is only silence »!

  • @piuskuchang254

    @piuskuchang254

    Жыл бұрын

    My simple mind says, "space" is immeasureable just as our perception on "eternity".

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814
    @SamoaVsEverybody814 Жыл бұрын

    I trust Tegmark more than nearly anyone in physics

  • @David.C.Velasquez

    @David.C.Velasquez

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I would humbly add David Deutsch.

  • @js8270

    @js8270

    Жыл бұрын

    A faith based assessment interesting

  • @David.C.Velasquez

    @David.C.Velasquez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@js8270 That is fair, but until experimentation is devised, to provide conclusive observational evidence, one must narrow scope, to even hope, for anything other than casual philosophical discourse.

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 Жыл бұрын

    It's only 1 square foot but everything in it is infinitely ♾️ small. 😶

  • @ejenkins4711
    @ejenkins4711 Жыл бұрын

    Its depends, best to think we are all an individual universe moving around one world. Job done

  • @johnjeffreys6440
    @johnjeffreys6440 Жыл бұрын

    The universe must be infinite. Only logical answer, though inconceivable. If not, it must be contained, so, how deep is the container, and what's after that?

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Жыл бұрын

    So what happens when the earth is traveling through a ripple or wave in space? Can we get compressed and stretched since we exist in space? Would we be able to tell? Or would it not be noticed because everything would be undergoing the same effects and even our observations of far away things are extrapolated from what can be seen but what we see is as old as the light year distance.... so we can't see the ripples somehow because it would have already been a long time ago, or they're invisible? Idk

  • @notyournickname

    @notyournickname

    Жыл бұрын

    LIGO detected ripples in space due to the collision of two stellar mass black holes! The method of detection is to measure the amount of compression of one of its arms (its an L shaped detector) by splitting a beam of light into the two arms, have them reflected at the ends, and then join them again. If peaks and troughs line up when joined - no gravitational waves, if they don't, that means the earth was ever so slightly compressed by ripples in spacetime.

  • @nagualdesign

    @nagualdesign

    Жыл бұрын

    Our gravitational wave observatories can detect the Earth being stretched and compressed by those ripples by as little as the width of a proton.

  • @igor.t8086
    @igor.t8086 Жыл бұрын

    …and “before you know it”, the strange, quantum-reality branches recombine - and the whole world slips into madness… Well, when the base pointers are mixed up, one gets very strange “description space” (I just invented that term to counter Hilbert spaces and multidimensional manifolds and a bunch more). Don’t get me wrong: This is old material, and I like Max Tegmark (who’s, apparently, in the same QM camp Sean Carroll is - namely “Many Worlds”), but… 🙄 I guess big boys also have idols…

  • @missh1774
    @missh1774 Жыл бұрын

    If a thought experiment could group beliefs or worldviews as tribes. Could its main characteristics be observed as expressions from a causal fixed body of time? Whereby the habits is a signature of working from a particular space time. But it might also be easier to say, they have mastered a stable algorithm. I would think it could cause one to be more attentive to the anomalies in regular time. Maybe...not sure.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын

    are the areas beyond observable universe / cosmos no longer causally connected?

  • @cozyslor
    @cozyslor Жыл бұрын

    Bring your Dad to work day for Max's 4 year old; "Hi, I'm a Firefighter and I put out fires." "Hi, I'm a Police Officer and I arrest bad people." "Hi, I'm a Theoretical Physicist and we live in a multiverse." Kids, "Is it snack time yet?"

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    It's smack time with Max.

  • @David.C.Velasquez

    @David.C.Velasquez

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how explained his "quantum suicide" thought experiment to them... jk:)

  • @ratbullkan
    @ratbullkan Жыл бұрын

    I think the mathematical universe hypothesis is a nice idea, but it limits itself to regularities. The regularities in our observable universe might be just due to the anthropic principle.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын

    is the universe /.cosmos beyond what can be seen in some way different than observable universe / cosmos?

  • @Tom_Quixote
    @Tom_Quixote Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure what is the strangest thought: That the universe might be infinite, or that it might be finite. Both ideas seem to lead to absurdities.

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814

    @SamoaVsEverybody814

    Жыл бұрын

    A finite universe would be pretty unlikely at this juncture, but I feel like finite universe would be even stranger in that there'd be literally nothing outside the expansion. To the point that even asking the question wouldn't make sense.

  • @johnbrzykcy3076

    @johnbrzykcy3076

    Жыл бұрын

    And the strangest absurdity that I struggle with, did an infinite reality create the finite?

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814

    @SamoaVsEverybody814

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnbrzykcy3076 With cosmic inflation, there's an infinite reality that creates pocket universes along the way that all have beginnings, but no ends. So that's how infinity can create finiteness, but that's only if you consider something with a finite past yet infinite future finite.

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814

    @SamoaVsEverybody814

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnbrzykcy3076 ​For me what's more perplexing is that if the universe is finite, then there literally is such a thing as nothing. Which is what lies outside the expansion of time & space. Sort of like Hawking's "North of North." The question wouldn't make sense, but wouldn't there be required for there to be somthing outside the expansion even if immaterial? Because somthing can't expand unless it's expanding into somthing according to my understanding of Einstein's gravity physics etc. All this is exactly why I can't wrap my head around finiteness even moreso than I can't wrap my head around infinity. They're almost the same thing in terms of perplexity. But I say moreso because I can't perceive finiteness at all, I can perceive infinity however in tiny ways oxymoronically.

  • @kos-mos1127

    @kos-mos1127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SamoaVsEverybody814 The Universe does not expand into anything. According to relativity the relative distance between galaxies is increasing.

  • @memyself4638
    @memyself4638 Жыл бұрын

    i just watched max on lex channel is this an old recording ? max looks so young in this interview

  • @neilintherapy4865
    @neilintherapy4865 Жыл бұрын

    If John Stamos was a space expert.

  • @josephgreen2824

    @josephgreen2824

    Жыл бұрын

    Somebody watches too much television

  • @denislemenoir
    @denislemenoir Жыл бұрын

    Tegmark seems like he’s got ants in his pants throughout this interview

  • @MS-od7je
    @MS-od7je Жыл бұрын

    1. What was the function of the protein that was first coded by RNA or DNA from which a selection could be made? 2. If the fewest genes that a cell can have to sustain life is around 400 but it has to have additional DNA to have reproductive function how can RNA or DNA have primacy ? 3. If a flatworm can be multiploidy and maintain function and morphology how does DNA have primacy? 4. How is it that a cockroach and rats can reproduce, after nuclear radiation,with mutations such that they become multi ploidy in order to maintain morphology and function and RNA or DNA have primacy or a selective function? 5. Why are a dog and a dingo or completely different genetic plants nearly identical? To what are they “converging “? 6. There can be any number of ways that a thing in nature can be the shape of a sphere but how many possible ways are there that a thing in nature can be the shape of a Mandelbrot set? Why is the brain a Mandelbrot set? How is a Mandelbrot set selected for from an infinite number of fractal patterns?

  • @robfogg7459
    @robfogg7459 Жыл бұрын

    There was an uncomfortable moment of silence in that little chat

  • @craigfordyce4645
    @craigfordyce4645 Жыл бұрын

    Yes. Space must go on forever...above and beyond the Cosmos.

  • @supernova046
    @supernova046 Жыл бұрын

    is space itself static or does it move ?

  • @SuperBroncosguy
    @SuperBroncosguy Жыл бұрын

    I wonder why i suck so bad at math, yet love science?

  • @justkidding5758
    @justkidding5758 Жыл бұрын

    The cosmos are endless because we are ALL conscious energy that is connected to the cosmos which means if our consciousness is eternal than so is the cosmos

  • @glaubs65

    @glaubs65

    Жыл бұрын

    Your pseudonym saves you.

  • @justkidding5758

    @justkidding5758

    Жыл бұрын

    @@glaubs65 Just kidding.

  • @Zamiroh
    @Zamiroh Жыл бұрын

    Very well spoken. I would argue math is only a way we have found to interpret the universe. It allows us to abstractly analyze the universe and understand things that would be difficult to understand otherwise.

  • @stevenschilizzi4104
    @stevenschilizzi4104 Жыл бұрын

    I had first thought that Max Tegmark was totally out of his mind, but I am now changing my own mind, and am even surprised he didn’t double down on his last statement by highlighting this example: since Kantor first ventured into these treacherous waters, we now know that in mathematics there are different types of infinities and that there are infinities beyond infinities. Aleph-0, Aleph-1, Aleph-2,…, Aleph-Aleph-0, ad infinitum and beyond. At the same time, physicists are increasingly saying that the ultimate stuff that reality is made of is « information », aka math. So the next question must be: where does rationality, and thus math, come from? - remembering that « rational » comes from Latin « ratio » meaning calculation. Now that’s a question!! And what does it mean that we are able to have access to it? This echoes Einstein’s (was it he?) « What I find most incomprehensible is that reality is comprehensible ». That wonder-statement is perhaps the most baffling one I’ve ever heard. Thanks for this interview: I’d have liked to hear Max explain his views a bit more deeply.

  • @mykrahmaan3408

    @mykrahmaan3408

    Жыл бұрын

    1 + 1 = 2 IS NOT A GENERAL TRUTH. --------------------------------------------------------- If one ponders whether there exists any system of knowledge no scientist, philosopher, saint or whoever has ever disputed, then what comes immediately to anybody's mind is the system of arithmetic operations. 1 + 1 = 2 is often quoted as the best example of an undeniable absolute truth. But are these operational rules so certain? Consider the following observations: Imagine you add one heap (=lot) of apples to another heap of apples. Then you must write 1 heap + 1 heap = 1 heap In this case it is very right to say 1+ 1 = 1 Therefore the statement that "one plus one equals two" is only a conditional fact and not an absolute truth. Similarly also other rules of arithmetic. For example if you take two heaps of apples with two in each and two with three in each and make five heaps with two in each, then the statement 2 heaps + 2 heaps = 5 heaps, hence 2 + 2 = 5 is also correct. Have you ever seen even a single table of arithmetic operations, where it is mentioned that accuracy of these operations are conditional? On the contrary, the rules of arithmetic are often quoted as examples of "absolute truth" even by most stubborn philosophers. It is taught that different catogeries (or units) cannot be added (operated, in general), but here it is the same catogery (units) ~ "heaps" of the very same fruit, normally used to explain (prove) "one plus one equals two" ~ alone is involved. And when you add two cubes of sugar into your tea 1 +1 = 0 is also correct.

  • @SpencerEdgards
    @SpencerEdgards Жыл бұрын

    OMG, Max, you're totally rocking that gangster look! 🤘😁

  • @ZahraLowzley
    @ZahraLowzley Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps reality is just infinite Tegmark's picking up example universe's in response to an interview question. This is why he has that signature smile, he knows that he is ultimate reality. At the Planck length he no longer has the ball because he is fundamental .

  • @donlodge1230
    @donlodge1230 Жыл бұрын

    Great talk. Can somebody expain - how can the universe be infinite if it was created at the big bang. At which time it was presumably finite. How big was the universe when it became infinite? How can anything that was once finite ever be infinite? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I would love an answer.

  • @grant1390

    @grant1390

    Жыл бұрын

    There is nothing that says the initial state was finite.

  • @Eigil_Skovgaard
    @Eigil_Skovgaard Жыл бұрын

    How round is a circle?

  • @mikemccormick8115
    @mikemccormick8115 Жыл бұрын

    No human can remotely imagine the size of our own galaxy much less the whole enchilada

  • @philtaylor3098
    @philtaylor3098 Жыл бұрын

    There's something out there beyond what human can think. If there other universes then that implies divison so what's inbetween and what are they all contained in.

  • @normanwyatt8761
    @normanwyatt8761 Жыл бұрын

    The size of the cosmos just blows the he'll out of my mind.......Years ago I figured our galaxy was huge beyond belief and maybe there were a few more out there, but now that we have the James Webb telescope operating it has opened our eyes and mind to the trillions of galaxies that exist in this universe..........I think about it everyday now, unlike my wife that lives in her world of shopping malls and soap operas and doesn't care about the cosmos..........

  • @whitefiddle
    @whitefiddle Жыл бұрын

    So! When he really wants to understand all of reality his first question is "how big is it?" That is just so precious! 🤣

  • @rajendrareddy4150
    @rajendrareddy4150 Жыл бұрын

    I have this question, is there an another universe which is closest to ours, and is expanding exponentially like ours? if it is so, is it possible that some of those other galaxies would encounter our outer galaxies? Thank you.

  • @abelincoln8885

    @abelincoln8885

    Жыл бұрын

    The Function, Intelligence & Mind CATEGORIES ... and .. the origin of all thermodynamic Systems(functions) ... proves God created Man in His likeness with a Mind that is natural ( Body) & unnatural (soul). There is only the Natural Universe .. that originates from & is expanding in ... an UNNATURAL System.

  • @Bill..N

    @Bill..N

    Жыл бұрын

    It is an excellent question, friend.. One popular theory is exactly that..These "Bubble" universes are postulated to exist within a super space, sometimes called the BULK.. When collisions occur with adjacent bubbles (Universes), new universes are created from the resultant energy exchange..Peace.

  • @digiswitch

    @digiswitch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Bill..N thanks bill

  • @vhawk1951kl

    @vhawk1951kl

    Жыл бұрын

    If you can discover what meaning the word inverse has for you-could possibly have for you, you will see that another is gibberish or simple nonsense amnd woolly ,mentation, but you simply cannot discover what lies behind that word in your associative apparatus that is not just some vague generalisation

  • @Bill..N

    @Bill..N

    Жыл бұрын

    @Peter Codner I certainly mean you NO offense friend, but I understood Rajendra's comment better than yours. You were addressing him, right..?

  • @wberckmann
    @wberckmann Жыл бұрын

    Consider this: matter is a mental construct. Therefore, the only limit to the universe is determined by thought. As our thought expands, so does the universe.

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER Жыл бұрын

    5:26 Wanna know how big the universe likely is? 1. You know when we backup off the Milky Way and we see that we are but one squiggle of space in a river of flowing galaxies that curve and head down a drain towards the great attractor? Well, back off the camera as far as the eye can see. You’ll likely see a bubble. Something like a 3 dimensional race track. A bubble expanding and contracting like a vibration. We are so small it probably looks like it’s expanding. Those could be minor fluctuations. 😂❤

  • @davidsphere
    @davidsphere Жыл бұрын

    Nobody has the courage to simply say "I don't know!" So we are inundated with infinite conjecture all backed up by reference to their God of Physics, Mr E=anything I make up under his name.

  • @stephenwatts2649
    @stephenwatts26497 ай бұрын

    Imagination - Process of Pure Creation The process of creation starts with thought - an idea, conception, visualization. Everything you see was once someone's idea. Nothing exists in your world that did not first exist as pure thought. This is true of the universe as well. Thought is the first level of creation. Next comes the word. Everything you say is a thought expressed. It is creative and sends forth creative energy into the universe. Words are more dynamic (thus, some might say more creative) than thought, because words are a different level of vibration from thought. They disrupt (change, alter, affect) the universe with greater impact. Words are the second level of creation. Next comes action. Actions are words moving. Words are thoughts expressed. Thoughts are ideas formed. Ideas are energies come together. Energies are forces released. Forces are elements existent. Elements are particles of God, portions of ALL, the stuff of everything. The beginning is God. The end is action. Action is God creating - or God experienced. Hang on. There's one thing more I have to tell you. You are always seeing what by your terms you would define as the "past," even when you are looking at what is right in front of you. I am? It is impossible to see The Present. The Present "happens," then turns into a burst of light, formed by energy dispersing, and that light reaches your receptors, your eyes, and it takes time for it to do that. All the while the light is reaching you, life is going on, moving forward. The next event is happening while the light from the last event is reaching you. The energy burst reaches your eyes, your receptors send that signal to your brain, which interprets the data and tells you what you are seeing. Yet that is not what is now in front of you at all. It is what you think you are seeing. That is, you are thinking about what you have seen, telling yourself what it is, and deciding what you are going to call it, while what is happening "now" is preceding your process, and awaiting it. To put this simply, I am always one step ahead of you. My God, this is unbelievable. Now listen. The more distance you place between your Self and the physical location of any event, the further into the "past" that event recedes. Place yourself a few light-years back, and what you are looking at happened very, very long ago, indeed. Yet it did not happen "long ago." It is merely physical distance which has created the illusion of "time," and allowed you to experience your Self as being both "here, now" all the while you are being "there, then"! One day you will see that what you call time and space are the same thing. Then you will see that everything is happening right here, right now. This is....this is....wild. I mean, I don't know what to make of all this. When you understand what I have told you, you will understand that nothing you see is real. You are seeing the image of what was once an event, yet even that image, that energy burst, is something you are interpreting. Your personal interpretation of that image is called your image-ination. And you can use your imagination to create anything. Because - and here is the greatest secret of all - your image-ination works both ways. Please? You not only interpret energy, you create it. Imagination is a function of your mind, which is one-third of your three-part being. In your mind you image something, and it begins to take physical form. The longer you image it (and the more OF you who image it), the more physical that form becomes, until the increasing energy you have given it literally bursts into light, flashing an image of itself into what you call your reality. You then "see" the image, and once again decide what it is. Thus, the cycle continues. This is what I have called The Process. This is what YOU ARE. You ARE this Process. This is what I have meant when I have said, you are both the Creator and the Created. I have now brought it all together for you. We are concluding this dialogue, and I have explained to you the mechanics of the universe, the secret of all life. Okay. Now as energy coalesced, it becomes, as I said, very concentrated. But the further one moves from the point of this concentration, the more dissipated the energy becomes. The "air becomes thinner." The aura fades. The energy never completely disappears, because it cannot. It is the stuff of which everything is made. It's All There Is. Yet it can become very, very thin, very subtle - almost "not there." Then, in another place (read that, another part of Itself) it can again coalesce, once more "clumping together" to form what you call matter, and what "looks like" a discreet unit. Now the two units appear separate from each other, and in truth there is no separation at all. This is, in very, very simple and elementary terms, the explanation behind the whole physical universe. Wow. But can it be true? How do I know I haven't just made this all up? Your scientists are already discovering that the building blocks of all of life are the same. They brought back rocks from the moon and found the same stuff they find in trees. They take apart a tree and find the same stuff they find in you. I tell you this: We are all the same stuff. (I and the Father are One Energy) We are the same energy, coalesced, compressed in different ways to create different forms and different matter. Nothing "matters" in and of itself. That is, nothing can become matter all by itself. Jesus said, "Without the Father, I am nothing." The Father of all is pure thought. This is the energy of life. This is what you have chosen to call Absolute Love. This is the God and the Goddess, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. It is the All-in-All, the Unmoved Mover, the Prime Source. It is that which you have sought to understand from the beginning of time. The Great Mystery, the Endless Enigma, the Eternal Truth. There is only One of Us, and so, it is THAT WHICH YOU ARE.

  • @innertubez
    @innertubez Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to meet someone from Shmearth

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER Жыл бұрын

    7:02 Do you guys see how the universe is a series of dishes or bowls? See the impacts in space time? Empty black space is a liquid. It might not contain any atoms but it still has a value and a mode. It will act in a certain way.

  • @windowbreezes
    @windowbreezes Жыл бұрын

    what i get stuck in is: if the universe has a shape, even a shape we cant comprehend, what is the place that the shape is existing on?

  • @NormYip
    @NormYip Жыл бұрын

    To describe the fundamental structure of the universe as only mathematics seems close to the idea that we are a simulation. However if we are not a simulation, mathematics doesn't offer an explanation to consciousness.

  • @danielt.3152
    @danielt.3152 Жыл бұрын

    Space is death and disease wrapped in darkness and silence. That is a great summary imho.

  • @aaronrobertcattell8859
    @aaronrobertcattell88595 ай бұрын

    two thing can not be in one space at same time ?

  • @S3RAVA3LM
    @S3RAVA3LM Жыл бұрын

    8:07 light particles. He's so smart isn't he

  • @David.C.Velasquez

    @David.C.Velasquez

    Жыл бұрын

    He's trying to represent the paradigm of thought at the time the experiment was first done. You're always a negative comment on this channel. Why do you even subscribe and watch this channel? Just to leave immature narcissistic comments?

  • @S3RAVA3LM

    @S3RAVA3LM

    Жыл бұрын

    @@David.C.Velasquez No, that's just your conception. Max is a liar like you and the rest of these athiests clowns who know nothing

  • @chrispercival9789
    @chrispercival9789 Жыл бұрын

    There's no reason to suppose in an infinite universe that nature hasn't tried every type of maths as a framework for a reality. I quite like the idea of evolutionary universes, each of which tries a particular framework of mathematics with an evolutionary tableau of natural 'constants', each in a dance between stability and dynamism

  • @verfassungspatriot
    @verfassungspatriot Жыл бұрын

    So the esoteric 'sacred geometry' is real in a sense ^^

  • @TheHarmonicOscillator
    @TheHarmonicOscillator Жыл бұрын

    As usual on KZread, there’s Dunning-Kruger effect in some of these comments. There is no way Tegmark could develop these ideas in a 14-minute video. Before criticizing them, may I recommend Tegmark’s book, The Mathematical Universe? I was a skeptic when I started it, but finished it convinced: Our universe is probably math.

  • @midnightroadstudios
    @midnightroadstudios Жыл бұрын

    Its big, thats for sure.

  • @carpballet
    @carpballet Жыл бұрын

    Why do trailer tires require much higher PSI than the car tires?

  • @Shiraz8866
    @Shiraz8866 Жыл бұрын

    The Universe is wider than our view of it... ~Henry

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps consciousness mirrors the universe and beyond, and maybe we should look inside for the answer.

  • @peteraxelsson5336
    @peteraxelsson5336 Жыл бұрын

    Close your eyes, Go inside. Wittness your counsiousness. Where does it end? You are endless, same as existens it self😊

  • @rowan1able
    @rowan1able Жыл бұрын

    He has the Answers

  • @benedicthlongwane7186
    @benedicthlongwane7186 Жыл бұрын

    Before you can tell the age of the universe you have to change your paradigm of what the living things are as stars and galaxies live and die.

  • @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192
    @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192 Жыл бұрын

    The problem here is you can’t understand how big it is because size is a reference. Infinity cannot be comprehended by the human mind, which is a finite organic organism.

  • @danielalexander799
    @danielalexander799 Жыл бұрын

    If the universe is infinite, then at what finite point in time since the big bang did it become infinite?

  • @vickiezaccardo1711
    @vickiezaccardo1711 Жыл бұрын

    The conundrums. I think many of us have asked that 4 year old' s question and tried to conceptualize the conundrums.

  • @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192
    @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192 Жыл бұрын

    There’s lots of us that have been in the multi-verse. With a discovery of quantum entanglement the word universe does not apply anymore. It’s multi-verse.

  • @bb001a
    @bb001a Жыл бұрын

    How come I always have to live in the universe where I never win the lottery?

  • @chuckdotson5861
    @chuckdotson5861 Жыл бұрын

    The Earth isn’t even the equivalent of a grain of sand on the seashore,as opposed to the rest of the Universe. It’s mind boggling,to say the least.

  • @reaganwiles_art
    @reaganwiles_art Жыл бұрын

    When we say "Reality, all there is", size is meaningless. Where there is one, thus incomparability, dimensionlessness must be admitted. Relative size cannot be characteristic of all.

  • @holgerjrgensen2166
    @holgerjrgensen2166 Жыл бұрын

    Well, You better ask the Perspective-Principle, compare to What ?

  • @thekolobsociety
    @thekolobsociety Жыл бұрын

    What is reality?

  • @giovangciccareli1829
    @giovangciccareli1829 Жыл бұрын

    Max has a similar sounding accent to Christopher Lambert from Highlander.

  • @jimgraham6722
    @jimgraham6722 Жыл бұрын

    The universe is no more math than it is Leonardo d Vinci's art.

  • @observer7418
    @observer7418 Жыл бұрын

    space is being constructed at every point in it