Love the tuning videos!..feel like I can always learn more. Keep it up. Thanks!!

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Toews - glad to hear it! I’m here to help!

I have the same Bow and love it ! Every time I need to change string and cables I come back to this video. Thanks this is my favorite There a few others from pro archers but this one dials me in every time. Thanks again great details and tips.

Couldn't figure out for the life of me why I couldn't paper tune it by adjusting the arrow rest. It all makes sense now. Thanks for the the video

Great explanation very informative love your videos

Really cool vid. I recently upgraded from an old Bear to a VXR. I LOVE IT! I did however learn that my form has been all wrong despite shooting my old bow decent. Paper tuning will expose that. :0 Now I have been practicing my ass off and getting better! I have a GREAT bow shop so they have been working with me and coaching me. Looking forward to September here in NC!!!

You make awesome videos, man. I'm subscribing

Love your videos and stuff. Like to see a video of start to finish on your arrow build.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Working on one right now. Stay tuned!!

Great video and tips thanks this is something I’ll be using definitely!

Great video brother !

Great video!!

I will stick with my creed for now. No long ago I got to renew my sights of Minneapolis with a machinery delivery to Mounds View. I can see how urban deer have some areas to hide out around the Metro area. Kind of reassuring to see tree areas spaced out so nicely and not just building to building along side the interstate. Kudos on the newest Mathews. Good hunting.

Great video!!! Thanks!

Curious as to where you position the arrow in relation to the Berger hole on your Traverse. I have one with a 30” dL that I’m getting ready to set up.

When you are measuring 3/16" for you center shot tune, are you measuring to the center of arrow shaft or edge of arrow shaft from the face of the riser?

Hey bud What's the height you recommend running through the burger button hole on a VXR 31.5 @ 28.5" draw length? You mentioned for you you run it bottom of the arrow center to the burger button hole.

You said you normally run the bottom of your arrow directly through the center of the Berger hole, but since this is a shorter ATA bow, you’re going to run the center of the arrow through the center of the Berger hole. Can you explain what the reason for that is?

How are you adjusting your bareshaft arrow in the rear to ensure it’s the same rear weight as your fletched arrow?

I bought a 2020 VXR 31.5 and have hunted with it for a couple years now. I recently reduced my draw length and after a few other minor tweaks I can't seem to get bullet holes. I've adjusted the integrated rest slightly to the right to reduce the nock left tear but I can't get it smaller than about 3/8" inch. What do I do with these "tophats" in order to eliminate that nock left tear completely?

Maybe make a video on sight axis tuning?

Is there a certain torque spec youre putting on the axle bolts when you are putting the axle back together? @hunturban

Does Matthews provide extra top hats with the bow, or is that something you have to purchase separate?

Could you make a video of your home bowshop, looks like an awesome setup

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Sure will! I’m not complaining about the setup, that’s for sure!!

Awesome!!

If I have a low tear what cam needs to add twists in?

I suggest making sure your cams are in time and the ATA is correct before setting your nock points. If you have to add or remove twist from your string it will also move your nock points.

Do you use the same arrow (1arrow) when paper tuning?

I'm looking hard into this, my draw length is 31 though, any opinion on string angle with your longer draw? Afraid I'll have to dip my head to get my nose to string, even on the 31.5

@aaronmartins4077

4 жыл бұрын

Given the size of the cams on Mathews bows, it should be better than most at 31.5 axle to axle..

So, what adjustment did you have to make? Where you able to keep the arrow perfectly level through Berger hole? I have always had to have my bows with an arrow that was a tad nock high.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

I don't like to run the arrow out of spec at all. On this bow, it was slightly nock high, so needed a 1/2 twist in the control cable, and then a swap on the shims, and she was shooting perfect.

Quick question hoping you or someone can answer for me. Where is the 13/16 measured from for the center shot. Riser to center of arrow shaft or riser to side of arrow shaft closes to the riser?Thanks.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

The 13/16 is measured from the arrow side of the riser to the center of the arrow

Nice video. Do you do day classes?

Will u set up and tune my bow

My local "Pro" shop doesn't even have a draw board, and if they did, they wouldn't know what to do with it. They couldn't help me get my Triax perfectly in tune when I first bought it, and a year later its still not in tune because it is "good enough" without changing the tophats. They didn't even consider doing that when tuning it.

@voxpopuli905

3 жыл бұрын

Mail it to MFJJ at Podium archer and Spokane valley sport. The guy specializes in this area, people like us who have limited dealers with limited talent. I’ve done business with him myself, he’s a bow wizard. But I highly suggest you get a VXR. I thought I would never let go of my Halon32 until I held a VXR in my hands. Don’t regret it one bit. I got the 31.5 but I tested the 28 and it’s incredible compared to the triax. Do it. You thank me later

Taylor I follow you and like you and you and Greg (g2) are probably the main reasons I took the leap into saddle hunting. I know you have to promote the Mathews stuff, but honestly I felt no difference in my Vertix vs the VXR in both 28 and 31.5 My Vertix actually seemed to shoot smoother

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Squatchin Outdoors - I’m glad you made the leap to saddle hunting! There’s nothing better in my opinion!! I love the Mathews bows, but I wouldn’t ever represent something other than it is. It’s possible that the VXR you shot was out of tune, and that would have changed the way it felt, but I’ve never had a bow that was so smooth, dead in the hand, steady on target, with a solid backwall, and silent. My Vertix was my favorite bow of all time.... until I shot the VXR! I’d strongly suggest shooting one that’s in time - let me know if you do and what you think!!

@squatchfamilyoutdoors9041

4 жыл бұрын

Hunt Urban Hey man maybe that came out wrong.... I know you wouldn’t falsely represent a product. The one I shot was fully tuned as my buddy was buying it. I planned to buy one also but wasn’t blown away. Maybe I’ve just grown to love the Vertix. I shot a a few bows that day fully tuned and setup. The VXR 28 was nice and I’m definitely a Mathews fan, but I just didn’t see major improvement personally. Either way I love your videos, I’m an urban hunter in central Indiana so it was cool to see you doing the same thing I’m doing. Have a good day man !!!

One more question : I am expecting my vxr 31.5 tomorrow When I set the elevation on my rest (hamskea trinity) do I set the bottom of the arrow center to the burger button hole? Or center of the arrow center to the burger button hole? I'm a 28.5. Draw length Much appreciate your responses. And thank you!

@timothyevans8204

4 жыл бұрын

Angelo Gountas I have the same question but I’m shooting the Mathews IXT integrate rest at 29.5 inch draw.

@rowdytownsend7086

4 жыл бұрын

Center of the arrow

great vid. when your bare shafts are nock high or low and you have to advance one cam or the other whats the rule of thumb. nock high + add twists to top cam or something like that?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Correct - if you’ve confirmed that your arrow is running dead level and you have a nock high or low tear, the solution is adding or removing twists to/from the control cable.

@markcruz5614

4 жыл бұрын

Hunt Urban wouldn’t that throw timing off then?

What do you do with your old bows?

Cheers for a great vid, if I'm getting tail right tears through paper no matter what I do, which way do i have to move the cams with the top hats ?

@ronaldcalvird8116

4 жыл бұрын

Having the same exact issues...assuming we have to just switch the top hats on both cams and it will fix the tail right because it will bring the string to the right...let me know what you end up doing with the top hats and if it fixes it. Could be an issue where we have to twist the cables instead...??? Who knows...hopefully he answers :)

@oldmatehuntsalot2520

4 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldcalvird8116 I ended up swapping just the bottom top hats with each other, shifting that cam to the right. Got bare shaft bullet holes after that

Do you do all this tuning before or after you "shoot in" the string? Or does it even matter?

@ianmcgaughey1

4 жыл бұрын

Replace the stock strings ASAP.

What do I do when I already moved the cams as far left with new top hats and I still get a 1.25" left tear when the rest is set at 13/16"? VXR28. 29"DL. 60#. Right hand. 400 spine arrow cut at 27.75". (3) 2" blazer vanes. 20 grain insert. 100 grain field point. I have to go to inside 5/8" with the rest to get good arrow hole.

@snogimp393

4 жыл бұрын

i have the same issue.

@holdleftedgeandsendit9351

3 жыл бұрын

Your under spined go go a 340

Can you talk about your arrow set up in a video? Love what you are doin keep it up man!

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

The Klutzy Outdoorsman - will do, working on one right now!

@theklutzyoutdoorsman5265

4 жыл бұрын

@@HuntUrban I keep seeing those Carnivores. I have a set and am wondering how you set them up to be 550 grains!? That's a crazy weight up front if you are using them.

Well 2 months ago i flippantly said there was no reason to upgrade to a VXR from a Vertix. That was until I picked up a 31.5 and couldn't believe how much balanced it is. The top heavy feel of the Vertix and most of the Mathews since the Halon series is completely eliminated with this bow. I can't stress enough how the balance will give a shooter a far better holding experience. Well I got one and now the Vertix is my backup! My question for Mr Hunt Urban (and Tethrd Prostaffer) when is a bow in your opinion considered tuned? I have paper tuned and am getting good results with walkback tuning. My bareshaft and fletched arrow groupings are very close at 20 yards but the bareshafts are sometimes kicking to the left. Any advice? And yes I got another dang integreated QAD rest as they are the perfect match for the VXR.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your new purchase! I was in the same camp as you, and was blown away at how balanced, smooth, and how rock solid on target the VXR is!! For me, after bare shaft tuning at 6’, then shooting through paper with a fletched arrow at 13-15 yards, once the fletched arrow is a PERFECT bullet hole, I’m done. Out of hundreds of bows, I’ve never had one not shoot everything perfectly after my tuning process. Just like anything else, it pays to have the solid foundation, which in this case is making sure the arrow is perfectly level and running properly through the Berger hole, and at 13/16. After that, time it, then shoot it and make micro adjustments... can’t beat it!

Do u still like this bow is it a good choice

Two questions...What paper are you using for paper tuning and if you have a slight low tear which cam are placing the twist in?

@mattsmillie2131

4 жыл бұрын

I've performed this process with my Prime Centergy. When I saw a nock low tear with bareshaft I added twist to the top cam. It worked for my setup

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

I use painters paper that you can buy on a big brown roll at Home Depot. With a nock low tear, Start by advancing the top cam (on a Mathews, that would be a twist into the bottom cam). SOMETIMES, this won’t fix it, and you’ll need to advance the bottom cam, but that’s only happened to me on a handful of occasions.

550gr out of a carnivore?!?!? Can I ask what is your arrow setup look like as far insert or outsert and fletch configuration?

@holdleftedgeandsendit9351

3 жыл бұрын

My carnivores are 740 grains lol

So you get the timing right then take it out of time to accommodate for vertical tears?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

No - setting the timing on the draw board is close, but it doesn’t get it exactly correct. You can’t replicate your grip pressure or exactly how you pull on it with a draw board, so it requires you to shoot through paper to get exactly perfect. That’s why it’s so important to ensure the arrow is dead level at set up, so you don’t have to take your bow out of time.

@tommypeloe23

4 жыл бұрын

@@HuntUrban awesome man thanks for the reply

Do you have to purchase the top hat spacers to fully tune it?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

No, you don’t have to purchase the top hat kit. If your bow needs top hat tuning, the first step is to swap the current top hats in the top cam (top left switches to top right) - 99% of the time that’ll solve the issue.

Is their a shop in the dmv area you would recommend for tunning ? I haven’t found a shop I’m really happy with, without having to drive up to pa.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, there aren’t any I recommend... and there really aren’t any “in the DMV”. Jefferson Archery is good, but it’s a little bit of a drive!

@mattlewis9725

4 жыл бұрын

Hey man you ever heard of Kelly's in millsboro? Winks in princess anne?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

No, I haven’t. How are they?

@mattlewis9725

4 жыл бұрын

@@HuntUrban they're the best on the Eastern shore. Kellys is geared towards bow hunting only but they're great at teaching kids also, as well as very affordable prices. Winks is more expensive but theyre in maryland so that's one reason they are high but they have every thing for guns and bows. Both have nice archery ranges indoors as well.id give Kelly's a 9.5 out of 10 and winks a 8 out of 10

@tylerriddle2142

4 жыл бұрын

Autumn sky

I just got the integrated rest and I saw that when you leveled you arrow on the arrow rest, the rest is not all the way up like in full draw mode. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

@HuntUrban

3 жыл бұрын

I will check and make sure that once I've leveled the arrow rest at "regular" locking height, that it's actually perfect at "full draw" mode, if that makes sense.

@emacor

3 жыл бұрын

@@HuntUrban got it. Thanks for the help 👍

What if you are getting about a 2-1/2" tail left tear and moving the rest doesn't improve it much.

@carlosmendez2591

3 жыл бұрын

I believe your spine might be off try cutting your arrow a half inch and repeat if you need to if you can’t go shorter with arrow length get a stiffer spine

@chethans7491

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosmendez2591 the bow tech shimed the cams in the wrong direction, it's shooting great now.

Does this tune stand for the 31.5 also?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Yup! Or any other bow in general

Awesome vid, I really feel like I learned a lot. Only thing I would add is, is it really a "review" when you talked about the bow review for about 30 seconds our of the 11+ minutes of the video? Seemed like it was more focused on bow tuning.

@Lando_TX

4 жыл бұрын

@Boxing 101 Completely agree. Again, love the video. I just think the title of the video should be "Mathews VXR Supertune" and drop the "review". So people don't watch an 11 minute video to see a review that was only 30 seconds.

Where are you located ?

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

I’m in northern VA, right outside of DC

I have shot and killed lots of deer with the vertical can't tell the difference with the vxr

The further back you paper tune the more time you give the Arrow to correct itself, paper time fletched arrow at a few feet not 15 yards.

@btvabowhunter

4 жыл бұрын

He did at 6' first ... Then moved back to re check.

@Briguy933

4 жыл бұрын

Bryce with bare shaft,

@Briguy933

4 жыл бұрын

Typos due to auto correct!! “ paper tune”

@Briguy933

4 жыл бұрын

I said in his last super tune video about him tieing his rest cord to the down cable (dloop) style instead of feeding it thru and a tiny amount of serving above. Seems he did it correctly in this video. Buy a hamskea and no to worry! 🤟🏻

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Case - I bare shaft tune at 6’, but then shoot a fletched arrow at 15 yards. It’s amazing how perfect of a bullet hole you can get with a bare shaft at 6’, yet how much of a tear you can get with fletched. Fletchings definitely stabilize an arrow, however, they don’t get it flying perfectly, rather, they mitigate the error in flight. If they corrected the arrow perfectly, you wouldn’t have to tune a bow at all! For the rests, I’ve had success tying them in both ways - with, of course, the only one I’ve ever had an issue with being my d-loop knot the minute before a hunt!! I’ve just gone back to a traditional tie in method on those for now.

Great video. But I'm not really seeing this is way better than the Vertix. Guys out there killing deer with Mathews bows from 10 years ago. If I did anything I would pick up a Traverse with the string angle it has. The VXR almost seems gimmicky. Longer riser but short changing on the string angle.

@HuntUrban

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought....until I shot the VXR. I was really impressed with how well it holds on target, how much smoother than the Vertix it was, and how well it holds on target. There's no doubt that bows last much longer than their marketing cycle does, and I have buddies killing deer with old Helium's that still work great - but this VXR truly is dead in the hand and driving tacks!! I have a traverse as well, and love it also. At the end of the day, they're all great bows, and you can tune them all the same way - just find the one that works for you and get shooting!!

@donovanstockton44

4 жыл бұрын

Hunt Urban well now I feel compelled to go shoot it. Maybe it will replace my Halon 32 which is an awesome bow but does have some vibe and a little noise.

my mouth is the only burger hole I know of...

You shouldn’t put the grip in the center of your palm... that cause more room for torque.

It’s not better than the vertix

thats to much work just use crossbow

Lol..... all you gona need is...... everything lol