Masters of the Air (2024) | The Ending Final Battle [HD]

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  • @tvbopc5416
    @tvbopc5416Ай бұрын

    My uncle WD was a mechanic for the 8th AF during the war - at the time, the policy was to assign one mechanic to one aircrew. He got to know the crew of the first aircraft he was assigned to very well - their hometowns, their girlfriends - and one day they didn't come back. So from that point on he wouldn't get to know the crews - he would look at their shoes. He went through 8 crews before the war ended. After the war they changed the policy - too depressing for the mechanics. Society has also forgotten the scale of WW2 - a figure I always remember was that 8th AF lost over 4200 aircraft over Holland alone in 1944 - when you add in British losses and Luftwaffe - today it's a big deal when the Russians lose one bomber over Ukraine. Never forget.

  • @gabrielyanez6971

    @gabrielyanez6971

    Ай бұрын

    El mundo es un infierno. Sin sentido

  • @carpediem9750

    @carpediem9750

    20 күн бұрын

    jesus christ ...8 crews U_U

  • @user-nc2bf9vx5y

    @user-nc2bf9vx5y

    9 сағат бұрын

    I will not at all as a child of a WWII solider. The bombers,fighters of all races were fighting for all of us then and now. If they had not we would not be here at all. Represent!

  • @KrautGoesWild
    @KrautGoesWild2 ай бұрын

    Considering the fact that both my grandpas were pilots in WW2... on different sides. They both survived to tell their tale but way too many grandchildren never had that opportunity. Here's to them and their memory 🍻!

  • @jckoibra2662

    @jckoibra2662

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    2 ай бұрын

    Which grandpas join which side? I would be interested to know which one of your grandpa is from Germany/Japan and the other from America/Britain.

  • @KrautGoesWild

    @KrautGoesWild

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-wx8nq9xh1pMy maternal grandpa, Alfred-Alexander, was transfered from the Wehrmacht's transportation and logistics department to the Luftwaffe after the Battle of Britain. When the OKM was scouring the ranks for anybody with flying experience, they picked him, raced him through pilot's training (where he still received more knowledge than later cadet years) and shoehorned him into a Messerschmitt 109's cockpit. The fact that he was over 2 meters tall (6'6''+) and had a furniture mover's physique made it necessary to remove the pilot seat's standard cushions and provide him with something far more uncomfortable. "After each mission my arse felt like the school teacher back then had a bad day!" My paternal grandpa Eoghan (Irish for "Owen") joined the Royal Air Force as a volunteer in a different matter. As he told us in his unmatched, slightly comical matter, after WW2 broke out, there were 2 kinds of strangers sitting in the pubs. One of them was happy to try out the whiskeys and beers and occasionally made an offer like (best read it with a stereotypical German accent): "Work for uz and azz soon az ze Brritish are deefeated, you will get yourr Island back. Ze entire Island!" Not that hard to tell who _they_ worked for. The other group stuck to their slightly warmer than usual beer and went like: "Well, if you fly for us, we will store any records of past... misunderstandigs... between us in a very, very combustible building. And every chap working there is a bloody smoker." Well, to put it diplomatically, my grandpa's family and ancestors had had their fair share of trouble with the British and therefore the offer of a clean slate was way too good to turn down. That's how their stories started. Alfred stayed with a Messerschmitt 109 and her different variants until he fell from grace and from the skies over London during the "Baby Blitz". Eoghan started with a Hawker Hurricane and later transfered to the Hawker Typhoon and later Tempest as a fighter-bomber. Their combined tales could fill a book than I am writing on for ages already 😅. Anyway, thank you for reading 😁🍻😎

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b49542 ай бұрын

    I wonder how many planes we lost to friendly fire in those huge aerial formations with adrenaline pumping.

  • @johnschofield9496

    @johnschofield9496

    2 ай бұрын

    too many !

  • @ptonpc

    @ptonpc

    2 ай бұрын

    There is a channel (WWIIUSBombers) that focuses on American bombers, the tech, tactics etc. From what I recall, very few were lost to friendly fire. The formations are a lot more spread out than as depicted, that combined with training and other factors meant that gunners didn't tend to shoot at their own. Even if they did, the other bombers were normally far enough away that damage would be minimal. I'm not saying it *never* happened but it was pretty rare all things considered.

  • @tomhoni9642

    @tomhoni9642

    2 ай бұрын

    50cals vs bombers arent very effective, at least vs the hardware. in later stages 30mm cannons were used vs bombers for that reason, cause even the widely used 20mm werent effective enough

  • @jonny-b4954

    @jonny-b4954

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tomhoni9642Yeah, 50 cals were always a bad idea to outfit out fighters and bombers with. They went for ammo capacity and existing weapons over cannons. It worked fine against Zeros, but heavier aircraft, not so much. Still, a 50 cal ripping through the fuselage will still kill you.

  • @mjjuntunen

    @mjjuntunen

    2 ай бұрын

    It is believed about 6% of bomber losses were friendly fire

  • @maddog46
    @maddog462 ай бұрын

    Thanks grandpa wherever you are.

  • @sergeantsalty1236

    @sergeantsalty1236

    Ай бұрын

    4 killing civilians ?

  • @maddog46

    @maddog46

    Ай бұрын

    @@sergeantsalty1236 When you sup with the devil. You had better bring a long spoon. War is hell.

  • @sergeantsalty1236

    @sergeantsalty1236

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@maddog46What is this 4 an answer ?

  • @maddog46

    @maddog46

    Ай бұрын

    @@sergeantsalty1236 Its appreciation for our grandfathers that fought in that dreadful war. Mine was there, as well as his best friend who is still there. Respond how you feel If you want.

  • @Uasaapp

    @Uasaapp

    Ай бұрын

    @@maddog46 lol, they way you ppl deceive yourself into believing killing civilians and bombing the hell out of them was right.

  • @saxx001
    @saxx0018 күн бұрын

    I live in the shadow of three USAF WW2 airfields, Deenthorpe, Polebrook and Kingscliffe, the memorials all fly the stars and stripes every day, and flowers are always fresh and blooming whatever the season, we never will forget the sacrifices of these young hero's, the greatest generation. Come the evening tide of a summer evening in England we listen for that echo of a B17 that sometimes can be heard, ghosts of the past returning from that last mission, bless them all.

  • @danieldravot341
    @danieldravot34112 күн бұрын

    80 years ago last month my father’s B-24 was shot down in combat. Five POW, Five KIA. My father was the longest living survivor.

  • @Wailwulf
    @Wailwulf2 ай бұрын

    4:45 3.5 seconds from dropping the ball turret to it hitting the Mediterranean Sea, that means they were flying at an altitude of about 200 feet.

  • @jckoibra2662

    @jckoibra2662

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean they were going lower that’s why they were trying to lose weight…

  • @elliotcurrie7143
    @elliotcurrie7143Ай бұрын

    The ethics of resigning so many men to such a horrific fate, especially considering how soon this type of combat would be obsolete. Terrifying.

  • @wnose

    @wnose

    Ай бұрын

    I was shocked at the first few episodes when they flew without any escorts. Who ever came up with this suicidal strategy??? Thousands of young men died.

  • @carrickrichards2457
    @carrickrichards24572 ай бұрын

    In Britain there were no memorials after the war. There was a national shame at bombing and its collaterlal damage. The RAF had less tech to mitigate that than USAAF. It is history that needs to be remembered and I am glad that since 1992 there is now a memorial in London to Bomber command.

  • @karlkirchweger4190

    @karlkirchweger4190

    2 ай бұрын

    Memorial for the bomber command ? For burning weman , children and old?

  • @hippo762

    @hippo762

    2 ай бұрын

    @@karlkirchweger4190 Yeah, that's what happens to a nation that elects a National Socialist government.

  • @level5565

    @level5565

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@karlkirchweger4190 burning women and children and the old. Hitler and the Nazi party did that!

  • @user-wm8fu3ir3z

    @user-wm8fu3ir3z

    2 ай бұрын

    @@karlkirchweger4190 They were in a war for survival,both sides did the same to each.You probably wouldn’t have enough balls to do what they did

  • @climaexpert

    @climaexpert

    2 ай бұрын

    Sir Harris would be considered a war criminal for carpet bombing according to todays standards.

  • @philgiglio7922
    @philgiglio79222 күн бұрын

    You don't want to drop the ball turret iff there is Any possibility off a water ditching 6:35 kissing the earth...my dad told a similar tale about doing that after they landed in Iceland on their ferry flight across the Atlantic. They got lost in fog and found the island as they were running on fumes. As soon as they touched down all 4 engines sputtered to a stop.

  • @patrickmiano7901
    @patrickmiano7901Ай бұрын

    Losses were greatly reduced when long-range fighter escorts were finally provided. Of course, there was nothing they could do against 88mm flak.

  • @garyhall8410

    @garyhall8410

    Ай бұрын

    The Red Tails

  • @kevinburnson

    @kevinburnson

    11 күн бұрын

    @@garyhall8410 Yo, Gary, the Red Tails operated out of Italy with the 15th AAF. Never were out of England.

  • @Shrike58
    @Shrike58Ай бұрын

    My Uncle Joe was a member of the 100th...Munster was the raid where he went down, but he escaped and evaded.

  • @komander5rose119
    @komander5rose1192 ай бұрын

    Today I'm just follow till 8 episodes,and it will be Watching from days to days.copy Sir.

  • @nickmariotti4241

    @nickmariotti4241

    Ай бұрын

    The series was OK, but just OK. Episodes 7 and 8 flat sucked. Way too much time spent on Crosby's affair and too much of that was flat made up. Episode 9 helped bring it back home with great direction from Tim Van Patten but the series as a whole was a major disappointment and a far far cry from the excellence of Band Of Brothers. They tried to do too much with too little. Tried to carry too many story lines and dropped a number of them. I know that Covid threw a wrench into things during production and I know that money ran short and they had to go with 9 episodes instead of 10, but they basically wasted two as well. It should have been ten full episodes and totally concentrated on the 100th Bomb Group, 8th Air Force, the way Band Of Brothers concentrated on the 506th P. I. R. The 332nd Fighter Group weren't even in the same Air Force as the 100th; they were in the 12th and the 15th out of Italy. Their story deserves to be told, and it has been, but it was not, nor should it have been part of THIS story. Doing it the way they did shortchanged both groups.

  • @stevehunt3847
    @stevehunt38472 күн бұрын

    I agree these brave airmen from the usaf alongside the british raf desimated the horror of germanys luffwaffa . Never forgotten always in our hearts ..over 734 men lost there lives in only 22 months. Brave brave men rip

  • @danabee3775
    @danabee37752 ай бұрын

    Here is to all brave men and women who went through hell up there fighting for freeeeedoooooom

  • @ianbaker8225
    @ianbaker8225Ай бұрын

    To the greatest generation.... thankyou for my freedom. 🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧

  • @user-nc2bf9vx5y

    @user-nc2bf9vx5y

    9 сағат бұрын

    Mine too. Thanks to my dad,and uncles also.

  • @mandarinlearner
    @mandarinlearner28 күн бұрын

    To think what my dad went thru as a tail gunner and then bombadier humbles me. He never talked about it

  • @glenndower2513
    @glenndower25138 күн бұрын

    Usually fighter aircraft and flak did NOT inhabit the same space at the same time.

  • @georgemiller151
    @georgemiller1512 ай бұрын

    What awful editing.

  • @shaun469

    @shaun469

    Ай бұрын

    Then do a better one.

  • @marktucker7454
    @marktucker74542 ай бұрын

    Lots of bits missing. The video and the plane are both full of holes and chopped up.

  • @suchenzuehx192

    @suchenzuehx192

    6 күн бұрын

    it’s copyright

  • @jlchevi1175
    @jlchevi11752 ай бұрын

    That's not final battle, that's part 3 first Schweinfurt-Regensburg mission

  • @mr.muldoontoyou
    @mr.muldoontoyou15 күн бұрын

    A WW2 Bomber crewman was asked why he and so many others did what they did, and whether or not it was worth it. He responded with "We went up there time and time again so men could dress in womens clothing and read book to kids, crush women in their own sports, and be named as 'woman of the year'. You bet your sweet ass it was worth it" -Katelyn Jenner (probably)

  • @christianknowles752
    @christianknowles752Ай бұрын

    The bravest sobs to ever have lived

  • @hud86
    @hud862 ай бұрын

    These were better humans than our current generation. To sacrifice yourself for the future is something most people can’t comprehend nowadays. Thank you to all the people who risked their lives and lost their lives. Our current world doesn’t show appreciation for your sacrifice and I’m sorry for that

  • @douglasstewart3889

    @douglasstewart3889

    2 ай бұрын

    Our current world is run by angry old right wingers, the offspring of those men. The current generation aren’t to blame for that.

  • @nutsackmania

    @nutsackmania

    2 ай бұрын

    There were just as may idiots and assholes then, we just see the specially selected ones fighting for their lives.

  • @lowellcalavera6045

    @lowellcalavera6045

    2 ай бұрын

    Bullshit

  • @buddy-tb5ik

    @buddy-tb5ik

    2 ай бұрын

    The people nowadays can comprehend it, just that we ain't willing to die just for the future of corporations and millionaires that don't care for us.

  • @DarkFenix2k5

    @DarkFenix2k5

    2 ай бұрын

    Tell that to the boys dying every day defending Ukraine from the 21st century's Hitler. When the call comes, people suck it up and answer. Do you think any of these soldiers in 1938 *wanted* to go and sacrifice themselves in the largest war in human history? Don't be an idiot.

  • @andrewjohnston9115
    @andrewjohnston91152 ай бұрын

    Interestingly enough the B17 was a compromise (thats code for shockingly bad choice) it wasn't a great bomb carrying machine, indeed the British Mosquito could carry a greater bomb load to Berlin than a B17 ... 3500 lbs vs 4000 lbs (the Lancaster could carry 14,000 lbs with a crew of 6) - the Mosquito had a pilot and navigator/bomb aimer (2 men) and the B17 had 9 men, too many American boys died because of bad choices ... isn't hindsight revealing.

  • @wnose

    @wnose

    Ай бұрын

    Plus the vaunted Norden bombsight didn't work well in real life situations

  • @rileymorrisroe6743

    @rileymorrisroe6743

    3 күн бұрын

    And yet it was easier to mass produce and were more of them. Not to mention the other benefits such as a higher operational altitude, more protection (2 waist gunners and a ball turret gunner) and better crew survivability. So i guess in reterospect they chose right. It wasn't a great aircraft but it worked. P.S how does max payload affect crew survivability? You realise more British boys wouldve been saved if they had prioritised self defense and survivability?

  • @christhornton1785

    @christhornton1785

    2 күн бұрын

    Actually, I believe the B17 had a crew of 10.

  • @rileymorrisroe6743

    @rileymorrisroe6743

    2 күн бұрын

    @@christhornton1785 It did due to the numbee of gunners

  • @wallacebrucker1584
    @wallacebrucker15842 ай бұрын

    I noticed there seems to be some censorship going on. Graphic violence scene show in one clip were absent in subsequent showings of same clip. This is a war film people die, and not just the enemy. People make mistakes, on both sides, bravery fear and ,just bad luck are not solely on one side..people I knew and were related to faced off during ww2 an uncle, actually flew B17s Others were actually on the ground looking up at the death and destruction. Raining down from far above. It's been many years ago, everyone on both sides are gone even now., I can understand the impotent anger they felt. I understood that bailed out crew were lynched by enraged towns people, it was not policy on the governments side. The military tried to take these people prisoners but sometimes they failed. At the risk of sounding cold, what did these men really expect would occur when those survivors of those being bombed got their hands on the killers. As ive written its been more than a lifetime ago that these events transpire. We are now all friend now and these events can never recur. I enjoyed the series and was amazed at what can be done with cgi now. Ate

  • @nathanr950
    @nathanr950Ай бұрын

    Not the final battle, it’s the damn 4th episode my guy, the entire episode is this mission

  • @user-zx4yc9co2b
    @user-zx4yc9co2b2 ай бұрын

    Why do they have the 109s flying like TIE fighters? There's enough vintage and contemporary footage to help animators.

  • @paulkirkland3263

    @paulkirkland3263

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed - plus the sometimes lightning-fast traverse on the upper turret. The CGI in this series is very patchy.

  • @Bigrago1

    @Bigrago1

    2 ай бұрын

    From what I could tell they're trying to show just how fast these planes would past each other, especially since both the Americans and Germans are flying in opposite directions. Plus we see the German planes move at more realistic speeds when the fly in from the flanks or from behind.

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    Ай бұрын

    @@Bigrago1 agree that is a fact that not many people know, a common Luftwaffe tactic to counter the B17 was to charge head on and target the pilots. As both sides are flying the opposite direction from the perspective of the B17 crew it seems as if the Bf109s are flying faster than usual because of the closing speed. But when attacking from behind the B17 crew can definitely see the fighters flying at their usual speed.

  • @dreadnaught7874

    @dreadnaught7874

    Ай бұрын

    It's not that the 109s are flying like TIE fighters, it's that TIE fighters fly like 109s. George Lucas modeled Star Wars space combat off of World War 2 air combat. That's one of the things that made Star Wars seem realistic and exciting to audiences back then, even though it makes no sense to people who understand actual flight physics in space. But it also makes actual WW2 fighters seem unrealistic, because later generations first saw maneuvers like that in Star Wars.

  • @thepsychicspoon5984

    @thepsychicspoon5984

    Ай бұрын

    You know that star wars space combat is based on WW2, right?

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS2 ай бұрын

    Is there some sort of weird editing going on here?

  • @glennpeterson1357

    @glennpeterson1357

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Bigrago1

    @Bigrago1

    2 ай бұрын

    Seems fine to me

  • @whitewinterresorts7679

    @whitewinterresorts7679

    26 күн бұрын

    The editor did not survive contact with the enemy.

  • @swordarmstudios6052

    @swordarmstudios6052

    26 күн бұрын

    @@Bigrago1 The music changes in random places - likely to avoid DRM. But it's clearly been altered from the original.

  • @panzerjamnik4540
    @panzerjamnik45402 ай бұрын

    The tragedy of WW2 was that both sides bombed and killed civilians. On purpose, not by mistake! But no one judges the winners!

  • @cliffwilkins9178

    @cliffwilkins9178

    Ай бұрын

    They seem to do so in Gaza.......

  • @bimbonas2

    @bimbonas2

    Ай бұрын

    Brits and the US did it on purpose. The Germans not my dude

  • @pov7853

    @pov7853

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@bimbonas2 only at first was the luftwaffe ordered not to bomb civilians, After a bombing raid on Berlin by Bomber command took place did they begin bombing cities

  • @thepsychicspoon5984

    @thepsychicspoon5984

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@bimbonas2 Bullshit.

  • @rap2xtrooper878

    @rap2xtrooper878

    Ай бұрын

    "No one judges the winners" are you sure? Dresden is known today as one of the worst war crimes in history (even though it was arguably a military target) and the firebombings of Tokyo, Osaka and Nagoya are condemned by damn near everyone who's heard of them (which I think is a fair assessment), and there's a LOT of discourse about the ethics of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. The only people who actually think that Allied war crimes aren't being reasonably discussed are the ones that try to use Allied war crimes to downplay Axis war crimes. And people who try to downplay Axis war crimes are usually... Deniers.

  • @BreakingImageFilms
    @BreakingImageFilms2 ай бұрын

    Did anyone notice how they completely abandoned the storyline of "baby face" two friends? They never show them again after the train ticket scene in Paris

  • @DDiamond8374

    @DDiamond8374

    2 ай бұрын

    Actually, they were shown in Ep. 7. They were the two guys riding bikes. It was narrated that they got to go home. But, yeah, I feel like we could've seen more of them. I feel like we skipped a whole plotline of their journey home.

  • @nickmariotti4241

    @nickmariotti4241

    Ай бұрын

    @@DDiamond8374 yes, this was a tense and gripping subplot that could have served to illustrate the harrowing experiences of downed airmen who managed to escape and somehow survive...and then they just abandoned it and the guys show up in England, la-de-dah, "hey everybody, we're back." That was awful.

  • @rap2xtrooper878

    @rap2xtrooper878

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah last we saw of them, they were in Paris, setting up the long and dangerous journey that would've been the resistance smuggling them to Spain. Then they forgot about that and boom they're just magically back in Britain again. Wasted potential

  • @wildrose2748
    @wildrose274821 сағат бұрын

    Ever wonder why our side used 4-engine planes when everyone else had only two?? You see allied engineers quickly figured out 4 engines were necessary to get the payload AND the crews balls off the ground.

  • @midlifebrologic
    @midlifebrologic28 күн бұрын

    were the waist gunners rate of fire slower than the others???

  • @markcana2917
    @markcana2917Ай бұрын

    Imagine In season 2 it's about air battle in pacific war that's includes Tokyo raid to enola gay

  • @bradyates7046
    @bradyates70462 ай бұрын

    those guys shot at the german bf109 fighters planes and each other , It looks like friendly fire happen alot.they fly so close together I dont see how they could of not shot each other.

  • @brucemoore9708

    @brucemoore9708

    2 ай бұрын

    It looks that way in the film, but it wasn't. The gunners were trained to cover their own sectors and to avoid tracking onto friendly aircraft. It wasn't just one big free-for-all. I'm sure accidents did happen, but most often, it was when another B-17 drifted out of position.

  • @mitchwhite1859

    @mitchwhite1859

    2 ай бұрын

    @@brucemoore9708 Good to hear, cheers.

  • @Ivan-pl2it

    @Ivan-pl2it

    2 ай бұрын

    Fighters knew to fly between them to avoid fire.

  • @shial1977

    @shial1977

    2 ай бұрын

    roughly 0.2% of the damage to planes in the 8th that made it back showed damage from friendly fire. They were more likely to shoot their own plane (1.4%) or to be damaged from empty shells falling from a plane above them (3.8%). There is a video here on youtube called "How Common was Friendly Fire Among Bombers in WWII?" that has the official numbers. Now to be fair that is surviving planes so it may be a hair lower but a gunner is only going to accidently hit a plane in passing and not concentrate fire on a friendly.

  • @vilivonkin6243
    @vilivonkin6243Ай бұрын

    Unfortunally germans got super jet fighters in late. Also air defence missiles.

  • @tsr207
    @tsr207Ай бұрын

    CGI looks poor, the fighters seem too fast on their passes (but the air gunners seem to hit every aircraft that came near them?) not really very good .

  • @shaun469

    @shaun469

    Ай бұрын

    And you've seen a 400mph closing speed in person have you?

  • @jimveybe7689
    @jimveybe7689Ай бұрын

    Poor digital graphics on the landing. A mini would have looked better.

  • @diannegooding8733
    @diannegooding873317 күн бұрын

    The same response from age appropriate men would occur today. After World War One, the motto “Never again” gained traction and Oxford Debating Society vowed “This house will never again fight for King and Country”. Now we refer to them as the Few etc.

  • @cakebaker3579
    @cakebaker357915 күн бұрын

    Fighters never attack during a flak barrage they run the risk of Friendly Fire.

  • @Freedomfred939
    @Freedomfred939Ай бұрын

    even the wounded needed O2

  • @tacticalclochard
    @tacticalclochardАй бұрын

    Wow, so many fighter kills. :-)) And fighter wings catching fire, not engines.

  • @nickmariotti4241

    @nickmariotti4241

    Ай бұрын

    a lot of fuel and ammo was stored in the wings.

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    Why would their be amo on the wings of the b-17 the only reason for the fire as the fuel fuels the engines 😐bullets and metal create sparks witch creates a fire 😐the reaction of so quick to a bistander it would look as if the wing is on fire but in reality it’s the fuel 😐

  • @mpgingdl
    @mpgingdl2 ай бұрын

    With gunners like these, who needs escort fighters?

  • @coinneachreid8971

    @coinneachreid8971

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh ! But they did. The idea that sticking as many 50 cals as you could manage onto a B17 and flying in a formation to provide a curtain of fire looked good on paper but wasn't worth shit in the air. These guys life expectancy got longer once the P-51's arrived

  • @mikecondray4805

    @mikecondray4805

    2 ай бұрын

    One of the (many) challenges in WW2 air combat was getting remotely accurate kill counts. Even fighter claims were almost always wildly optimistic. You're in combat, you get a snapshot at 250+ mph/400+ kph on a target going just as fast and get a glimpse of it smoking and going into a spin. "That's a kill" you think but can't afford to watch it all the way to the ground because you have to keep your head on a swivel to keep someone else from getting YOU. But you feel confident enough to claim credit if you make it back home. Now try it for bombers. A German FTR flashes smoke or even explodes (no doubt on THAT one). But 4-6 or more guys in different bombers were shooting at it and every single one of them legit thinks "I GOT ONE!" I mean, really--you are tracking a target, firing at it and it blows up. Hard to argue with that, right? It's not like it was fun attacking a formation of B-17s. One German pilot noted that attacking a formation of 12 B-17s meant dealing with 144 heavy machine guns "And you felt like every single one of them was aiming at YOU." In addition to rockets and heavy cannon to allow them to attack from out of machine gun range, the Luftwaffe actually gave partial kill credit for separating a bomber from its defensive formation because a long bomber was much easier to deal with. The "self-escorting bomber" was a fallacy many paid for with their lives, but the Luftwaffe didn't take them lightly or make fun of them as an adversary.

  • @K_lub

    @K_lub

    2 ай бұрын

    I think he was being sarcastic with the "realism" of the show.@@coinneachreid8971

  • @jeffcrosby1209

    @jeffcrosby1209

    2 ай бұрын

    This is correct. The huge early casualties of the 100th were because Boeing and some Air Force generals sold the idea that the "Flying Fortress" could defend itself from the Luftwaffe without fighter protection, and the available fighters at the time did not have the range to reach Germany and back. The full footnoted story is told in the book version of Masters of the Air.@@coinneachreid8971

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    Ай бұрын

    @@mikecondray4805 yeah most of the time b17 crews just try and claim a kill if they think they see a enemy plane smoking or blow up just to keep morale up even if that wasn't positively identify as a kill.

  • @krabinom
    @krabinomАй бұрын

    1:50 we have a hole in our left wing!

  • @donaldgrant9067
    @donaldgrant9067Ай бұрын

    I was very disappointed in this film. You have to be in the air to master it.

  • @n2wb100
    @n2wb1002 ай бұрын

    The super brave men of B 17

  • @steveturansky9031

    @steveturansky9031

    2 ай бұрын

    And B-24s

  • @georgetsokanis3542

    @georgetsokanis3542

    Ай бұрын

    11th grade (1978) we had a human history day where our mild mannered English teacher Mr Van Schaick recounted his experiences as a B17 pilot over Germany. Poignant.

  • @LoosMoose
    @LoosMoose20 күн бұрын

    Is this a shortened version or is the editing actually this bad??

  • @jamesphillips2529
    @jamesphillips2529Ай бұрын

    Well that is a mix of a few battles. It's not the ending final battle

  • @wolfganghuhn7747
    @wolfganghuhn7747Ай бұрын

    The german / us losses are always skewed

  • @PlymouthVT
    @PlymouthVT9 күн бұрын

    These guys would be the equivalent of our Gen Z generation today which means everyone would quickly die as they would be all making Tic Toc videos of themselves dancing around there machine guns or just staring at there phones.

  • @tokarp390
    @tokarp390Ай бұрын

    2:10 take a look on bomber on the right - CGI does not deliver physics on time

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    On the mountain

  • @JohnRoberts-wk6rf
    @JohnRoberts-wk6rf2 ай бұрын

    If I had been in WWII, I would have wanted to be a pilot, for sure. Except that I probably would have been disqualified for wearing glasses. Much respect to those who fought in WWII and all other wars to maintain our freedom.

  • @mjpraetorian4386

    @mjpraetorian4386

    Ай бұрын

    Some of the most Bad arse soldiers of WW2 had "Eye Problems"

  • @theoracle6639
    @theoracle66398 күн бұрын

    All that attention to detail, and they get the oxygen masks wrong.

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Manage time, to come to VN

  • @adrianwilkinson4790
    @adrianwilkinson4790Ай бұрын

    Would be more realistic if they included the foo fighters

  • @user-qe6ru4sc7o
    @user-qe6ru4sc7o9 күн бұрын

    😢😢😢Su nación vale Why Others See and Don't Act to Defend the People of the Country

  • @mikekillin1860
    @mikekillin186029 күн бұрын

    I was stationed m swchinefurt 3rd I'd refurbished luftvaffer barrics our tanks were on the airplane concrete pads they went after the ballbering factories

  • @Sierra_116
    @Sierra_116Ай бұрын

    If I may ask why is the bomb sight so important? why did they need to destroy it or make sure it doesn't go to the enemy?

  • @crazykippy3717

    @crazykippy3717

    Ай бұрын

    From what I remember it had a computer which could calculate the distance for greater accuracy, so they would destroy it to avoid the Germans from capturing the technology

  • @tortron

    @tortron

    Ай бұрын

    It was a. Very expensive and b. They thought it was the game changer and didn't want German or Japanese to get one. Obviously that eventually happened and the Germans said nein ours is better, and the Japanese said hey that's pretty good, but ours will make do

  • @swordarmstudios6052

    @swordarmstudios6052

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah the bomb sight was a very sophisticated device for it's time. One of the first uses of computers in warfare, in this case a mechanical one. You could actually slave the planes controls to the site for the final bombing run. But it didn't work all that well in combat conditions. It was accurate on paper and in testing, but in battle it didn't work as well. However the fundamental tech was still very powerful and there wasn't any reason this couldn't be improved.

  • @tomw377

    @tomw377

    13 күн бұрын

    Dutch navy pilots in the Netherlands East Indies campaign (1941-1942) flew Dornier Do. 24 flying boats there were equipped with the very modern German-made Goerz electronic bombsight. There weren't many of them in the NEI, so it was common to have a single aircraft with a Goerz bombsight serve as lead bomber for an entire formation. I have a Dutch-language article that compares bombsights used by the Dutch army / navy in WW2. It quotes a former Dutch pilot who wrote that most Dutch pilots preferred the Goerz to the highly classified Norden bombsight which they used later in the war on American-built aircraft.

  • @tomcooper6108
    @tomcooper61082 ай бұрын

    All the yelling in those old mic sets. Those headphones distorted yelling so badly. I know it lends itself to drama, but the yelling is way overboard in this series.

  • @coinneachreid8971

    @coinneachreid8971

    2 ай бұрын

    A similar criticism is applicable to the movie Memphis Belle in which personal tensions between crew members boils over during their mission, something that these crews during daylight bombing raids over the heart of the Third Reich just wouldn't do.

  • @brucemoore9708

    @brucemoore9708

    2 ай бұрын

    True. Most aircraft commanders would have ordered them to shut up. In fact, it was a point of pride among air crews if a a/c commander remained calm under enemy pressure.

  • @patrickkelly6691

    @patrickkelly6691

    2 ай бұрын

    @@coinneachreid8971 The actual Memphis Belle went on a ''milk run' over the coast of France for their final mission. But the movie packed every single cliché of Bomber stories into one.

  • @ptonpc

    @ptonpc

    2 ай бұрын

    @@patrickkelly6691 The original script was about a RAF Lancaster but the film's writers couldn't sell it to Hollywood, thus it was retooled as an American film.

  • @patrickkelly6691

    @patrickkelly6691

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ptonpc oook - the basic concept was based around the '30 mission and go home deal', which was not a thing for the Lanc Crews (BIL's dad was a Lanc Rear Gunner and survived 40+ Missions). SO I am unsure how any script about the Lancs (which I would watch for sure) is comparable in the core script. But f that's so then I won't argue it. Certainly the ''Bridge Too Far' was another movie that had to promote American concepts rather than the Brits perspective, so ignoring the single point of failure that counted was that of General Gavin to order the Waal Bridges be taken at Nijmegen on day one and still left untaken when XXX Corps arrived ahead of planned schedule, only to find the bridge still in German Hands)

  • @reginaldwright247
    @reginaldwright247Ай бұрын

    To every Man and Woman who fought and contributed in WW2. THANK YOU! and GOD BLESS each and everyone of YOU! YOU-WILL-NEVER-BE-FORGOTTEN!

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    126 unity roads

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    I have loved the Vietnamese . Name Hoang Hai

  • @rossstewart9994
    @rossstewart9994Ай бұрын

    Masters of the Air is a fantastic series well done and well produced thank you to the men and women that served

  • @Give_Me_Tone
    @Give_Me_Tone2 ай бұрын

    War thunder take notes

  • @sureshk2733
    @sureshk27332 ай бұрын

    These are the worst jobs in the aviation history😢😢😢.

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    Bro I think your taking this to serious 😐yes it is a movie but it’s based on real life even if we did try to show you real footage having a camera or Video was really rare back then 😐it may not be better as yarn hub but this is the closest thing to yarn hub as it adds the realism to it 😎😊

  • @marianovaliente2103
    @marianovaliente210315 күн бұрын

    Donde coño estan los Mustang P-51 de escolta??? Y los P-47 Thunderbolt????.

  • @charlierumoldboi3939
    @charlierumoldboi3939Ай бұрын

    Messerschmidts flying the speed of jet fighters!! Yeah, right. Good old fantasy cgi.

  • @hitorque2734
    @hitorque27342 ай бұрын

    Read the book instead.

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Change the world Religious for me. Mom become the world god 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @somtarus2268
    @somtarus22682 ай бұрын

    พรุนเลยเครื่องบิน

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    If you think that’s interesting watch no bullets fly 😎the strength of the b-17 was being hallow as if something is hallow it can take a lot of punishment and still work 🙂but the weakness of the b-17 was because it was hallow it had very weak armor 😐with modern jets and other aircraft the rules are reverse 😐most planes are stiff and not hallow but what makes up armor lacks punishment as a heavy armor aircraft can’t take a lot of punishment even if something so small like micro cracks or short circuit jumping etc can completely cripple a Heavy armored aircraft

  • @komander5rose119
    @komander5rose1192 ай бұрын

    I'm focusing on this movies

  • @Eddyzk
    @Eddyzk2 ай бұрын

    The more clips I see of this series, the less I want to watch it.

  • @bouzzard4871

    @bouzzard4871

    2 ай бұрын

    Show Is good, don't let the terrible editing put you down. It may not be as superb as BoB or the Pacific, it's still entertaining and thrilling at times.

  • @Eddyzk

    @Eddyzk

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bouzzard4871 It's not the editing, although this clip is atrocious. First and foremost, it is the dramatic music that I find so off-putting. And then there is the acting, which seems incredibly wooden. I'll likely give it a go though, at some point in the future.

  • @Eddyzk

    @Eddyzk

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bouzzard4871 Apple TV has 7 days free, so I decided to give it a try. I've only seen the first episode. Unfortunately, I wasn't expecting much, but I'm still disappointed. It is laughably bad.

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    I am on the American army base

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Mom KPO Dagout.. become the lady of liberty 😂😂😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😅😅😅😢😢😂😂😂😂❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Lombieng

  • @timridge8037
    @timridge8037Ай бұрын

    Now that it has all aired, over time it will start to be considered another classic ( maybe the last) from Hanks and Speilberg. Blake Neely on score has come of age, the next Hanz Zimmer. Well done all involved, 10 years in the making and worth the wait, wd

  • @user-gz9iv9yt1p
    @user-gz9iv9yt1pАй бұрын

    Прикольно. Ещё и своих сбивали в пылу боя.

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Skies fight

  • @judith_herault
    @judith_heraultАй бұрын

    They went through all this, just to bomb residential area? Well done leads.

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    WW Three, Ocean war

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    Ocean fightings

  • @daymondhill9215
    @daymondhill92152 ай бұрын

    They should have added the German jets in the show

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    2 ай бұрын

    The first few episodes were around mid-late 1943, Me262 appeared around late 1944 but I think later episodes will show them.

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    @@user-wx8nq9xh1pthat’s interesting 🧐also the Germans did build a very early model of a jet aircraft during ww2 I forgot the name 😓

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    24 күн бұрын

    @@jettmthebluedragon Me 262?

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    24 күн бұрын

    @@user-wx8nq9xh1p yep that’s the one 🙂

  • @yurlunggurcamfieldensis5748
    @yurlunggurcamfieldensis574824 күн бұрын

    War Thunder players be like

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    115

  • @user-kl2er7nv6e
    @user-kl2er7nv6eАй бұрын

    Ya acabo los 9 capítulos los he visto muy pero muy buena serie

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    1857

  • @old_commie
    @old_commie14 күн бұрын

    It's better to play War Thunder than watch this "masterpiece"😂

  • @aceshigh6499
    @aceshigh6499Ай бұрын

    Looks like Star Wars maneuvering. Me 109s don't roll and turn that fast.

  • @marceletiennou5182

    @marceletiennou5182

    Ай бұрын

    Georges luka c’est servi des combats aériens de la 2ème guerre mondiale pour ses combats dans l’espace

  • @marceletiennou5182

    @marceletiennou5182

    Ай бұрын

    Et dans l’espace pas d’air porteur

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    Ай бұрын

    The reason they are so fast is because the most common tactics of the Luftwaffe to counter B17 was to charge head on and target the pilots. Because both sides are flying opposite direction the closing speed from one perspective seems as if the other plane was flying usually fast when in reality they are flying at their usual speed. If you see other scenes from Masters of the Air when the Bf 109 fighters attack from behind they are flying at normal speed. Its a fact not many people know.

  • @davidefois1303
    @davidefois1303Ай бұрын

    You Guys try to kill my mom in Cagliari February 1943. When we’re bad guys. Thank’s to miss her 😊❤️

  • @user-kt6mm7ee7f

    @user-kt6mm7ee7f

    Ай бұрын

    By that October we were on the same side.

  • @user-ph6vc3nk8k
    @user-ph6vc3nk8kАй бұрын

    B17

  • @fanatictsx
    @fanatictsxАй бұрын

    Did anybody comment on the fact that in this stage of the war there was no daytime bombing?

  • @rap2xtrooper878

    @rap2xtrooper878

    Ай бұрын

    Only the British bombed at night. The Americans never switched to nighttime bombing, they kept flying deep penetration daylight raids the entire war and they paid the price for it

  • @krashlyboo
    @krashlyboo2 ай бұрын

    Forget Politics lets focus on the B17 being a T1000 of the air and the crews men of iron

  • @suissdagout5153
    @suissdagout5153Ай бұрын

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @burkewillis
    @burkewillis2 ай бұрын

    I was really looking forward to this series. Having a seen a few of these stupid over-the-top combat sequences, I'm just not that interested any more. Sure, it was bound to get a bit of a Hollywood treatment, right? But this sucks.

  • @richardsmith2684

    @richardsmith2684

    2 ай бұрын

    doltish comment

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    2 ай бұрын

    burkewillis I don't understand what the heck you are blabbering about this series is the most accurate portrayal among all the B17 movies I watch and accurately depict all the possible dangers those brave b17 crew face.

  • @richardsmith2684

    @richardsmith2684

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-wx8nq9xh1pnit picking idiots everywhere

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    Well of course it’s going to be Hollywood treatment 😑as you failed to understand having a camera back then was rare we are about to create this series based eye witness accounts survivors and history documents 😐

  • @richardsmith2684

    @richardsmith2684

    24 күн бұрын

    inane comment on terrific shows,,im sure combat scenes frighten you or the thought you might be in one,,hollywood on a very accurate treatment of a real history,,no doubt band of brothers and the pacific do you also,,

  • @marcoferreira4576
    @marcoferreira457619 күн бұрын

    Real Super Heroes!

  • @ashrafabukaram6569
    @ashrafabukaram656922 күн бұрын

    ....

  • @michaelevans7433
    @michaelevans74332 ай бұрын

    What a sad way to portray the hero’s of WW2. Shame on the the directors and who ever else worked this…!!!!!!

  • @tokre8880

    @tokre8880

    2 ай бұрын

    what the heck is your problem ?

  • @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    @user-wx8nq9xh1p

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro this series is the most accurate among all the B17 movies I watch and it is probably shows the dangers more accurately.

  • @teleplayer605

    @teleplayer605

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-wx8nq9xh1p Go and watch The Cold Blue...

  • @jettmthebluedragon

    @jettmthebluedragon

    25 күн бұрын

    How is it sad ?🧐seems to me your just a hater because it’s a series and not real 😑

  • @michaelevans7433

    @michaelevans7433

    11 сағат бұрын

    @@jettmthebluedragon Firstly series or not could of done so much better in their memory. Secondly base on a true story, but yet again could have done better. My grandfather (may he rest in peace),” was a navigator on the Lancaster Bomber called High Hopes and if he watched this series he would have called it “A load of shit”. If want to watch a true story about the B17 I recommend Memphis Belle. Kind regards.

  • @FridolinBurghardt
    @FridolinBurghardt2 ай бұрын

    .

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago12 ай бұрын

    Another worthy companion piece to Band of Brothers, hopefully more come in the future

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