Oh John, this hits home. Glad there are few of us left out there.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

I thought I was the only one!

Very insightful advice, practicing technique. I watched a Henry Cotton video about hitting a tire to improve your hands and he said in the video “you’re only as good as your hands”.

Hi John , Harrington here , enjoyed the chat on the phone last year , I miss your Dad , we had a lot of fun playing @ PVGC on Saturdays back in the day , discussing Technique , that’s really what I enjoyed the most , the guys we played with just played the game and routinely beat Ken and I , who teamed together in 4 Ball . I guess that’s why I ended up leaving my RE Business and hung up my shingle , teaching Technique became my passion ! I also enjoyed watching you play the few times we got a chance to play there at PVGC ! Thanks , John

I love this guy’s perspective on the golf swing. I would love to send a few hours with him. He seems like a sincere, nice person and would genuinely care to help. Thank you for your video. 🇨🇦💝🇺🇸🙏👍

@tomnelson8515

Ай бұрын

I can guarantee he is exactly that.

If you actually know what you're doing in the golf swing you don't need to practice often. People who practice often only have a "feeling" that they know as a golf swing so they practice often because they fear that if they don't, they'll lose that "feeling." Just because you can perform an action doesn't mean you fully and completely understand what exactly it is that you're doing. Like he mentioned, literally everyone who knows how to ride a bike does so by performing an action that they're completely unaware of. In golf we have a phenomena called "unconscious proficiency delusion" or UPD or the belief that just because you can do it, that you also understand it. So, basically all golf instruction ends up being, "just do this," and the instructor has no idea that's not actually what he or she is really doing.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

I learned a lot by not playing or hitting balls. I didn't play for 13 years, then came back to the game. Some things stuck, but a lot didn't. I found out quickly what was important and what was not. Good golf muscle tone was important. Drilling and strengthening critical golf muscles that drove pivot and forearm rotation, and then working on taking consistent divots with a 1 iron without a ball was extremely beneficial.

@paulyandle6081

Ай бұрын

Ben Hogan...practiced Every day.

@HolyGrailOfGolf

Ай бұрын

@@lagpressure I used to practice with the oldest butter knife 1 iron I could find. I knew that if I could stripe it with that thing, I could hit anything.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

@@HolyGrailOfGolf Absolutely. Read "The Talent Code" if you haven't yet. It confirms exactly what we are talking about.

@HolyGrailOfGolf

Ай бұрын

@@lagpressure The talent code, hmm. I've never heard of it. I'll check it out. Thanks

Some solid wisdom in this video. The best part about even having a 1 iron in your bag is it is viewed by others as the badge of a golf-badass. That said, the manufacturers have strengthened the loft of the irons so much (to allow a golfer to hit a 200 yard 7 iron), that I believe a 3 iron has 17 to 19 degrees of loft. Most sets of irons today seem to be sold 5 thru 9 irons. I agree that eBay is the best place to find a 'trad' 1 iron.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

I remember a slogan from back in the day...I think Trevino said it......."never bet against a guy with 1 iron in his bag and a dark suntan".

Daly, Nicklaus, Furyk, Duval, Finau etc. have funky swings but they would never change them. Many golfers now who chase new swings and techniques and coaches are able to win a few tournaments and reach the top but they come back to earth soon enough.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

It only matters what is happening through the strike... just as the examples you have given. That being said, it DOES matter what is going on through the strike. You can't just do anything in that arena.

Thank you John, very much, for such a thoughtful experienced perspective.

As a former gymnast, I had excellent technique and I was called the mini-Hulk because I had a lot of strength. This combination made my movements seem effortless. 🤷‍♂️. My flexibility and speed/strenth were assets to my golf swing, but never had great technique. I wish I had access to this man, when I was in my teens.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

It's never too late to learn. Regardless of what point you are at in life, the golf swing technique can be improved upon. I've had students in their 80's hitting the ball better than they ever dreamed possible. There is a geometric aspect to things as well that can help just understanding a few things. Rotating plane lines, ball positioning, where to aim on the ball for contact. Many things can benefit just from better orientation.

Thanks John! Do you have a video explaining the difference from swinging and hitting?

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

Yes, it's on this channel... a lot of talk about that really.

Great video about technique …. Will never happen with the PGA professionals ..: every 10 years the PGA comes up with another blueprint to teach …. 2003 it was yank the club down … I saw your comment about the talent code but with a million different ways instructors are confusing students the romanticized 10000 hours of sound practice can’t be realized…

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

If you can't flush five 1 irons in a row, one straight, two draws then two fades... your technique is questionable.

@lagota100

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think it’s a business sort of thing that they push…to influence sales of products too.

@ngascoigne

Ай бұрын

​@@lagpressurewhat is deep practice in golf as defined by the Talent Code? Trying to do as you describe would probably be the closest thing.

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

@@ngascoigne The 1 iron would be the best path to deep practice. Once mastered, hitting a 1 iron is not difficult at all. Good technique makes it feel easy and very enjoyable. In the 1990 Masters video I posted recently, Faldo plays a 1 iron from the fairway on 15, under pressure, and on the Sunday back nine. Faldo had great technique, so it was not something he feared. He pulled it off just fine.

@goldengate8287

Ай бұрын

@@lagpressure I can respect that … it makes sense … now go pitch that to your peer teachers and the PGA … revitalizing the 1 iron culture … at one point t I carried a 1 iron in the bag to keep me on track …

Wisdom

I’m making a film about Moe Norman and would love to chat with you about him.

@lagpressure

26 күн бұрын

Sure...

Great video John. I feel the same way. Would you say that Moe was a hitter? From what I see of his technique looks like he is hitting hard and involving almost his whole right side at impact (especially his right hip) as he is letting the club pass him and extending with his arms and his entire body following after impact?

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

Moe hit from a shoulder plane. Very unusual, and very confusing for many, because he is in positions swingers would normally be in. Moe hit hard with the body!

@johndouglaspatterson3151

Ай бұрын

@@lagpressure I am actually going to go "all in" with adopting a swing that for lack of a better way of describing it is based on "Moe like" principles and movements. I started doing it last year but switched back to my old more orthodox--traditional setup and swing after getting all the dumb "look its Moe Norman 2.0 comments." I live in Canada--so every other person here knows about Moe. But anyway, I was middle-ing the darn thing and compressing the crap out of it on every strike with my irons and the ball was flying straight at my target with beautiful trajectory---I mean every strike was just pure joy. But couldn't quite get the Driver swing figured out. jdp

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

@@johndouglaspatterson3151 Moe swung a 16 ounce driver.. not a modern frying pan. Moe's clubs were super heavy.. he hated light clubs.. as did Hogan and Knudson.

@johndouglaspatterson3151

Ай бұрын

John, when you played at Cypress Point recently would you feel comfortable sharing what clubs you carried in your bag? Did you go "old school" throughout the entire bag? I imagine I would be floating 5 feet off the ground if I ever got to play there---just so much history there my poor little brain would probably go numb trying to take it all in ----- jdp

What if you can absolutely pure a 1 iron with bad technique? Or does a 1 iron require at the very least decent technique to flush it and hit properly?

@lagpressure

Ай бұрын

If you can absolutely pure a 1 iron with reasonable consistency.... you have excellent technique... whether you are hitting or swinging. Now if you want to be able to do that confidently under pressure, I would highly recommend a hitting protocol. That being said, Jack Nicklaus struck a lot of great 1 irons with a swinging technique!

start with a wedge.....then move on.....if you are new to the game.....

This is relatable to skiing which Knudson also loved ⛷️ When one learns how to edge the ski properly, it changes everything.