Love the honesty from a legend. Got to stop and listen to the wisdom.

@christophercolt1361

Жыл бұрын

A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like the honesty involved with this drill. Ken is one of the Best!

Ken Hackathorn is awesome. Thanks to all for taking the time to make these videos.

1 to 5 has always been my favorite. Thanks Vtac for coming up with this drill .

Great video

Sir you’re extremely honest and direct!!! I appreciate it!!

Great drill and video! In the early days in Special Forces, they used to teach us to count our rounds and reload before slide lock. Easy to do on the flat range, but during CQB almost impossible. I've only trained with Ken one time, but would jump at the chance again if he ran another class.

Thank you - your explanation really brings it together, sir.

Great instruction as always Ken. I always found this challenging at SSG. Thanks for all the great instruction.

Excellent drill!!! Thank you Ken!

Appreciate the honesty and the drill coach

All these great drills. Time to get to the range! Thanks!

Awesome drill with great training tips.

That is a great drill, thank you ,I will be running that this weekend!!

Ken is great! No BS and "staging" his videos like others to be a KZread star!

Cold counts. Absolutely! Great drill and advice.

Excellent training objective! Thank you for sharing.

Just ordered a Wilson Combat Beretta Centurion. I am really getting to like Ken Hackathorn.

Love these videos thank you sir.

Thanks for your honesty

I like this drill. I also like the no bs presentations.

Great tip at the end. Catch myself with poor trigger control during extended shooting with sidearms.

Ken is my favorite! He reminds me if my Grandfather.

That’s what I am talking about. He said a lot of truth and it will hurt certain people’s feeling. To bad!

Thataboy. Glad to see your not hiding the truth, the facts or reality. Egos don't belong in shooting practice, videos or real life settings that could effect the rest of yours or someone else's life.

Its a drill people. It isn't testing how fast you can run. It is making you count shots which adds a "calculation" factor into the training. And, no, he and I are not saying you should count your shots in a SD situation.

I want all kens guns! Love this one and the long slide one

I like the fact you said… only the first cold run matters. Because that’s real life scenario

In today’s 9mm pandemic pre apocalypse, ammo prices are $.80 per round before sales tax, add another $1 for the ammo background registration fee for us in Ca. That was a $12 exercise. Yikes! I only watched this video because I just bought a set of Hakathorn Ameriglo sights for my Glock 34. Good video.

Learning we are, master!

Awesome info!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Thanks friend.

I get it. I'm just not a big fan of running a gun dry. If your slide locks to the rear everything's going upside down. Train like you fight fight like you train has always been my motto.

Good video. Good shooting

Looks like a fun drill, wish I had some place to run it.

The fact that 99 percent of the people watching this can't shoot this scenario clean under 11 seconds. Well lets say 98 percent. 3 gun has gotten more popular. Glad to see new shooters at the shoots.

That was humbling. First try 13.66. 5 missed outside A-zone. Total 18.66.

@AVD-og9fr

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because dudes got old ass wrists and grip strength. Still better than anything I can do on a great day.

A Legend

Gun training is good fun.

I agree the first one is the one

Nice! 😀

Nice drill ...

What type or brand holster is he wearing. Great drill. I do something similar but with two targets.

Hey Mr. Hackathorn, do you still teach classes? Where and when?

Hello Ken... I really like the stream lined look of your speed holster your using for your pistol in episode 04 video. Who is the manufacturer? Much appreciated. 🇺🇲🎯

Which of all Wilson Combat models is really best suited for one-hand Precision shooting competition at 30 yards? Thanks and hope some advanced shooters can help out with some comparison of all their models for one-handed Precision Shooting !

your targets aren't moving but you can. move while shooting, it adds another layer.

Seems like a good drill idea, especially the " only reload when youre empty" part. Too many ppl are concerned with range games and think that stuff like that matter in a sd situation. Bringing me to my only real issue other than the particular pistol being used ( ill adress that at below) is with "scoring" hits. I understand you are trying to become more acurate and are challenging yourself but 3 -5 hits to the torso will put anyone on the dirt, and if you are practicing FOR a sd encounter worrying about " score" is a waste of valuble time that could be the difference between death and survival. I like the idea of hard pass/fail drills as score is irrelevant in the real world, and an attacker or attackers isnt going to wait around for you to get a perfect sight picture while you are engaging his partner. If youre using targets like idpa, or any basic torso and head any hit "right now" is 100x more valuable than a perfect shot half a second later. like i said i do like this drill, but it needs to shed the "range game" aspects. As to the gun chosen- Im not going to bash on 1911s( much) or 9mm,single stack guns, or even the use of a "mid size" pistol (ive just never understood the compromise; all the problems of carrying a large pistol, along with those that come from a sub-compact, seems like giving up alot for very, very little net gain. again just an option and not one shared by most people) and i dont care if hipoint named a model after me id still carry it just because it had my name on it so i get that, but my issue is with using the "classic" 1911 design. Specifically a model that uses a barrel bushing. Why in the age of ramped barrels would you use a gun that has a very important part that is know to get "worn out"? I know thays how they were originally made but that doesnt mean we have to ignore mordern improvements. Ive seen quite a few people have their bushing either crack, come loose, and once fly off with his spring cup downrange. Yes of course you could never see this problem by having good maintenance habbits and replace them frequently but why bother when there is just a better option?

@leathersaddlehorse

4 жыл бұрын

May I suggest that you find and watch some actual videos of assailants sustaining even more than 3-5 hits and continuing to press the attack, even after having sustaining one or more eventually fatal wounds. Even a heart shot will allow some people up to around 10 seconds to pursue the attack. Try it yourself.With a dummy pistol, start counting to 10, and see how many different people you can aim at and pull the trigger, even if you have to reload, before the 10 seconds is up. It's very enlightening!!

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Early Cuyler Lot of good thoughts/questions here - some not quite accurate, but thank you 👍

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

leathersaddlehorse yepper

Thank you sir, for not Faking the outcome.

"You never get to plan when you reload" PLEASE tell this to IDPA, one of my many issues with IDPA.

@deank5649

5 жыл бұрын

Idpa is 99% slide lock reloads my man

@centralvalleyamerican8085

5 жыл бұрын

Must be thinking of USPSA

@c.r.chandler5905

4 жыл бұрын

You beat me too the punch. I hate this about IDPA. I see folks planning a stage knowing exactly when they will reload, blah, blah, blah.......

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Howley It’s a game lol

@reds7vn644

4 жыл бұрын

I hate IDPA and USPSA for one reason. I don't believe any shooter should have prior knowledge of how the range is set up. In other words I think everyone should go in blind you have no idea how many shots are going to be you have no idea of anything prior to starting. if you want to see the reality of life because we can't plan what's really going to happen in real life you would see Tom go through the roof drastically if they applied this.

I love ken hackathorn ! He is so fucking cool !

Okay great video! That being said I have had the flu and I am not thinking clearly. How many rounds are in each of your mags? I can count, I am C- student. :)

I respect someone who isn't obsessed with proving he's absolutely perfect. That being pointed out, I'd still hate to get into a lethal confrontation with the man.

I know this drill as Haley 1-5. (As in Travis Haley) I can put 15 shots in the 8" circle in 12 seconds with no time penalties. The trick is to fire from the trigger reset, not move your arms but rotate your hips and have a shot cadence in your head.

If you like hat try this one know as a revers Badger. Using two mags 10 rounds total with one reload using four targets designated as P1, P2, P3, P4 at 7 yards engage ATB : P1, P1, P2, P1, P2, .P3, P1, P2,, P3 ,,P4 a good time would be under 10 seconds and shooting targets out of order is a 10 procedural penilty. this will mes with you mind

I like it!! Ken is right, only the cold run makes a difference and really tells the story. So, 13.44…Ken is human!

@mikechampion1614

2 жыл бұрын

I try to get out to the range close by.about once a week. 5 rds 2 mags and switch up round count in mags each session. Do a blind grab and load on the mags.plus the one in mags holder. 2 targets spaced apart and at different distance. my constancy is pretty solid.and my monthly range trip(150 rds) is when I try to tighten my groups with some more challenging drills and targets.(3 different ones each has a different challenge to it) I try not to do the practice drill in same order each trip.

Yep, I always shoot cold.

real world calls for a Tactical reload at any break

Good One ! I Like your Pistol Ken!

Also know as a progestive sweep

That first shot is everything. Miss and you probably won't get a second chance. Beautiful gun, what's it called. ( Lol ) Rich

@gowilsoncombat

5 жыл бұрын

That's Ken's personal Hackathorn Special Commander compact in 9mm. - www.wilsoncombat.com/hackathorn-special/

@Chevrolet1994

5 жыл бұрын

Wilson Combat Full size in .45? He says Commander in 9mm beautiful gun though you guys can sure build them! I’d love to work for you building them!

@gowilsoncombat

5 жыл бұрын

So he does...corrected, thank you. Same link applies.

Whats the difference between my Ulta Light Commander, and a Ken Hackathorn ULC?Now your playing my toon, with light wieght 1911's!

I Love this Drill Ken 😎 I Noticed You Used The Slide Release Method After The Reload I Also Prefer That Method Vs The Sling Shot Method 😊 What’s Your Take On That Ken ? Thank You in Advance 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@carrottoponcrak

5 жыл бұрын

I've always heard if there is an external hammer, it is a "slide release," and can be used as such, and if it does not have an exposed hammer (striker fire) then it's a "slide stop" and you should use the slingshot method.

@cbrooks2767

5 жыл бұрын

@@carrottoponcrak Slingshot method is a one-size-fits-all universal method. But if your gun has a slide stop lever that is easy to use like Ken's then use it because it's faster. Train with it enough and it becomes a no brainer automatic action.

@isaacsandovalcarter3062

5 жыл бұрын

He has spoke with Wilson himself on the matter and they encourage slingshot. It has to do with the spring weight of the firing mechanism

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Isaac Sandoval Carter I do know it’s not recommended to drop a slide on an empty chamber on a 1911 platform...but I know of no specific reason to use the “sling shot” method for reloads. 🤔🤷‍♂️

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Chiampo Speed is the number one reason to use the slide release/catch. 👍

Why do you leave the trigger pinned to the rear until sights are back on target? I promise you can out shoot me but will you not gain some time by releasing the trigger during the recoil cycle?

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Owen Should transition for the next target, too, during that recoil cycle

I'm a fan of the 1911, and I know it requires more maintenance and upkeep. My only 'problem' with the 9mm 1911's is that I find a loose cartridge in my pocket occasionally, or if I rack a round in to carry plus 1 and remove the magazine to top it off, I'll have the round fall out of the gun. Or, I'll take a magazine out and find the top round is halfway out and sticking up. Had this happen with Kahr CW9, and with Ruger Lightweight Commander in 9mm. Anyone else have this problem or know of a fix? Doesn't happen with my G30s or other pistols. I like 45 auto and have no problem carrying it, but want to see if I can carry a 9mm without these issues that cause me to not trust the 9mm 1911 system.

@gowilsoncombat

5 жыл бұрын

Bill and Ken have an in-depth conversation about this very topic in our Gun Guys series...check it out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZiWxJqCorW1qpc.html

What was the distance? Thanks!

Ken, What holster are you using in this drill? Thank You Sir.

@guitrich

5 жыл бұрын

He used a Milt Sparks 1AT-RT, available from www.miltsparks.com and www.wilsoncombat.com.

In Vietnam i just shot till everyone was dead . Didn't have time to count shots or worry bought seconds..

I would pay a lot of money to see 10 hours of video instruction by Ken Hackerthorn. He should have his own KZread channel, like Jerry Miculek.

@gowilsoncombat

5 жыл бұрын

We've got several more episodes with Ken yet to be released, and more coming in the future...stay tuned!

@bobsmith5710

5 жыл бұрын

he has his own set of videos from the 80's

The recoil of the WC 1911s looks much more linear than most other 1911s.

@zen-Tii

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a 9mm Commander. Light bullet, light slide compared to your garden variety .45.

You couldn't compete at TriCounty gun club in Oregon. No pointing muzzles up over the berm

😀👍🏼🇺🇸

Great video and knowledge. Music is absurd!

the secret is in the moustache

I know it was for the show, but I know you don't drop that mag unless you really have too. bad boys are $$$$

I would love to, but all the ranges near me only allow for one target per shooter, and does not allow anything that even closely resembles rapid fire. I see all these videos on KZread and I have no idea where you people think we can get to shoot like this, because it's not common in Indiana unless you have money and/or land outside of town.

That looks like a retro Safari land holster Ken..and you looked a little fatigued...Should have speed-rocked the whole thing......George Kelby

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ken just put the smack down on us

I disagree having to reload when you run out of ammo, plenty body cam videos of officers reloading after engaging a target before emptying the magazine

@aeromech93

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, called a tactical reload. One example - happens after you have stopped the threat and scanned. Then you tactical reload in case something else starts.

Trigger jerk is a myth

Like a singer sewing machine

My cheap 1911 shoots tighter groups than that. Way tighter.

why is this guy an "expert"?

Work on your reloads, under stress your body freaks out. Get it to a reaction, not a action.

I could do without the wailing butt rock while Ken is shooting! Otherwise good stuff.

John Wick is a better shooter

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

Code Seven lol

I'm not gonna lie, that's really not even that impressive shooting.

@bobjackson7516

5 жыл бұрын

You have a video that's more impressive? I'd love to see your skills and technique.

@gtdfirearmsllc4759

4 жыл бұрын

_Trav_ Cole He’s not the greatest shooter by any means, no, but that’s not his area of focus. 👍

No person is ever going to have to engage more than 2 people in a real world defensive situation. No you won't, no you won't, and no you wont!! Anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool.

@aeromech93

2 жыл бұрын

Tell that to Kyle

Loading the gun in front of your face is absolutely stupid you need to stop teaching that

@aeromech93

2 жыл бұрын

Better idea is NOT to take your eyes off the threat. Never take your eyes off the threat. That means you get that weapon up in your vision to address it.