Martin Keown & Simon Jordan CLASH Over If Arsenal's Bukayo Saka Needs MORE PROTECTION From Fouls 😳🔥

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TalkSPORT's Martin Keown and Simon Jordan lock horns over Arsenal speaking to the PGMOL for more protection for Bukayo Saka.
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  • @markbarber5646
    @markbarber56464 ай бұрын

    They need to remove all discussions on Arsenal when Keown is in the studio, objectivity means nothing to him.

  • @arranmelaugh5606

    @arranmelaugh5606

    4 ай бұрын

    Doubt it! Jim and Simon do it on purpose cos they know how biased Martin is! 😂

  • @sofakingspurs

    @sofakingspurs

    4 ай бұрын

    They need to remove Keown. FIFY ;)

  • @problemstube7266

    @problemstube7266

    4 ай бұрын

    Then you wouldn't watch talksport

  • @matthewm3869

    @matthewm3869

    4 ай бұрын

    but its incredibly entertaining

  • @Tarek_ElMaddah

    @Tarek_ElMaddah

    4 ай бұрын

    Simon in the opposite side lacks objectivity when they talk Arsenal too.

  • @IanDavis-fs8dd
    @IanDavis-fs8dd4 ай бұрын

    The funny thing is, if Martin was playing against Saka he'd give him a 'reducer' the first chance he got.

  • @ronnyron4681

    @ronnyron4681

    4 ай бұрын

    If it was Messi then it is a foul. Like the saying "become hypocrite is easier than become honest".

  • @fyarlynx
    @fyarlynx4 ай бұрын

    Keown is a classic "He should be top fouled" television gold

  • @nadeemamode

    @nadeemamode

    4 ай бұрын

    I always crack up whenever someone touts the most fouled statistics.

  • @fyarlynx

    @fyarlynx

    4 ай бұрын

    @@nadeemamode 😂😂🤣 classic

  • @ronnyron4681

    @ronnyron4681

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@fyarlynx But if it was Messi then nobody would argue on it. See the Hypocrisy!!!

  • @faswani
    @faswani4 ай бұрын

    I'm just looking at Simon's face as Martin is speaking😂😂

  • @ronnyron4681

    @ronnyron4681

    4 ай бұрын

    As long as Simon is alive and exist, England will not win any trophy. Mark my Word!!!

  • @brendancrowe1179
    @brendancrowe11794 ай бұрын

    What's mad is that Keown doesn't actually realize how stupid his take on this is 😂

  • @didierdugary6995

    @didierdugary6995

    4 ай бұрын

    You don't have to be disrespectful to him. Learn how to accept other people's opinion

  • @deanobrady3

    @deanobrady3

    4 ай бұрын

    @@didierdugary6995 no there is peoples opinion and there is stupidity! There is literal facts in front of him that 2 players are fouled more and he’s trying to say Saka is the most fouled! A spades a spade! The guys is a clown! Don’t be a snowflake and call it what it is

  • @vianneyluyima5094

    @vianneyluyima5094

    4 ай бұрын

    Probably your understanding of the situation is more stupid than his take on the matter.

  • @MrBannystar

    @MrBannystar

    4 ай бұрын

    @@didierdugary6995 Why shouldn't we disrespect obvious stupidity? Especially when it's on show week after week?

  • @Superpity07

    @Superpity07

    4 ай бұрын

    Wenger out

  • @alhagitunkara
    @alhagitunkara4 ай бұрын

    Martin Keown reminds me of Ty 😂

  • @Tombola8610

    @Tombola8610

    4 ай бұрын

    Get them in a room together comedy gold 😂😂

  • @alhagitunkara

    @alhagitunkara

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Tombola8610 honestly ridiculous

  • @tanman966
    @tanman9664 ай бұрын

    When Martin is arguing against *facts* , he’s really clutching at straws

  • @Scuttleftw

    @Scuttleftw

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JordiBoy_ He's right though. The amount of times Saka is fouled but it's not given is outrageous. That's what Keown is saying. He should be at the top of the list IF the referees were giving the challenges as fouls, when they should be.

  • @robhernandez5520

    @robhernandez5520

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​​​​​​​​​@@ScuttleftwI wouldn't bother arguing with rival fans they're playing dumb just to be able to criticize something about Arsenal. Anyone with common sense understands what Keown is saying but once again they just don't want to. Using the argument that he statistically doesn't get fouled more is like saying a burglar doesn't commit burglaries just because corrupt police officers never arrest him. Regardless of what the police do the burglaries still happened. Regardless of what the refs do and the stats say he's still getting fouled a lot more than they are calling to a degree that's unacceptable

  • @willtallis5275

    @willtallis5275

    4 ай бұрын

    @@robhernandez5520shut up it happens to every teams best players that’s what do,es with being the best player at your time how about he hits the gym and gets stronger and doesn’t bring on so many fouls change his game how about that

  • @robhernandez5520

    @robhernandez5520

    4 ай бұрын

    @@willtallis5275 Yea I agree it happens but not to the extent that it's been happening with Saka. It's actually ridiculous to the point where somethings gotta be said

  • @willtallis5275

    @willtallis5275

    4 ай бұрын

    @@robhernandez5520 deluded most of the time he goes down over nothing if he wasn’t always looking for a foul then he might actually get more it’s his own fault and arteta for telling him to okay like that and not changing

  • @VillaMalvern
    @VillaMalvern4 ай бұрын

    Martin has lost the plot here. Deluded Arsenal fans who think the world is against them and they are entitled to a free pass for every game. Unbelievable

  • @Mod1Tk
    @Mod1Tk4 ай бұрын

    Bit rich how one of the dirtiest players in PL history is moaning about a player getting fouled 😂

  • @nickmildon6348

    @nickmildon6348

    4 ай бұрын

    I find it so bizarre, the hardest player has become the softest man

  • @IanDavis-fs8dd

    @IanDavis-fs8dd

    4 ай бұрын

    Spot on!

  • @ArtetasCreche

    @ArtetasCreche

    4 ай бұрын

    He's become soft just like the Arsenal fanbase now.

  • @ianjones2731

    @ianjones2731

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@nickmildon6348Western culture in a nutshell

  • @brianharkin
    @brianharkin4 ай бұрын

    Nobody has abused Saka more than Arteta who plays him week in and week out even when it is obvious that young man needed a rest. No wonder he gets plenty of fouls the young man plays every minute of every game

  • @rakimrobinsonMCFC

    @rakimrobinsonMCFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Pair that with the fact that Arsenal attacks the box more often than not through Saka that also runs up the numbers.

  • @southpaw1689

    @southpaw1689

    4 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @amajeet

    @amajeet

    4 ай бұрын

    Ita unfortunate that Pepe was no where near good enough and that Marquinos needs more time, but he might not even make it as an Arsenal player.

  • @MrGoldie1976

    @MrGoldie1976

    4 ай бұрын

    He plays football for a living something that he loves ..He should play every game at that age😅

  • @fyarlynx

    @fyarlynx

    4 ай бұрын

    💯💯💯

  • @Collier990RHCP
    @Collier990RHCP4 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry but Saka isn’t good enough for team to target in that way. He’s a good player but it’s not like Messi getting volleyed every week in Spain. Playing against Arsenal as a fan of another team I’ve never felt some fear or that the players need to get into Saka 😂

  • @ryanflood635

    @ryanflood635

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeh same here. I like saka but I certainly don’t see why players would fear him. He isn’t this amazing player that can take on anyone. The best thing I see him do is thread the ball into a gap. Everything else he does is just ok.

  • @BiggestBirdonMars

    @BiggestBirdonMars

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ryanflood635people aren't afraid of him It's just that Arsenal wide players usually get a lot of one on one situations so you have to tackle or foul them to stop them from getting away or getting a chance Arsenal fans think he's world class for some weird reason

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BiggestBirdonMarsno they don’t, they get doubled up on every game.

  • @semiseriousgooner

    @semiseriousgooner

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't agree with the point Keown is making but he's double and triple marked every game. It's a main reason why we look so poor at the moment in comparison to last year. Teams have worked out he is the one that's gonna hurt you and mark him out the game.

  • @stephenphillips3883
    @stephenphillips38834 ай бұрын

    Saka falls over at the slightest touch, especially recently when he's playing poorly it's like a crutch for him, he gets less fouls than he should because he's trying to buy ones he shouldn't and has a reputation that is, in my opinion, fairly earned. Grealish should have the same rep but for some reason the refs love giving him a FK when he tumbles to the ground, the difference between him and a player like Salah for example is startling.

  • @RJ-ns6kr

    @RJ-ns6kr

    4 ай бұрын

    Lies lies lies, there’s a reason he’s the third most fouled.

  • @d3po607

    @d3po607

    4 ай бұрын

    if this where true he would drop soo much more in the box which he never does

  • @Lioness_UTV

    @Lioness_UTV

    4 ай бұрын

    IF you take away the bias, take a look at the FK's Grealish gets. He lures players in and holds the ball, he is genuinely fouled. He holds the ball less at City than Villa but either way he often gets really hard chops and he just gets up, walks away and as he said his greatest revenge is assisting or scoring. He has been like that since he was a teenager. I have seen him fake a foul and honestly it's so obvious it's embarrassing 😅

  • @diarmuidquinn4902
    @diarmuidquinn49024 ай бұрын

    Keown surely just trolling at this stage 😂

  • @stevet9418
    @stevet94184 ай бұрын

    It really bugs me when refs don’t give a yellow just because it’s the beginning of the match, and also when they don’t give a second yellow when it is blatantly a yellow card offence.

  • @toddhellyar4167

    @toddhellyar4167

    4 ай бұрын

    You just described the culture of Chelsea

  • @vandammejam

    @vandammejam

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s called common sense

  • @thomaswood1272
    @thomaswood12724 ай бұрын

    Watching Villa beat Arsenal i watched Saka get pressured abut 8 times, none of those occasions were what i call a bad tackle or foul. What i did see was Saka go down easy every time begging for fouls. Saka needs to show more tenacity in my opinion.

  • @truegunner7223

    @truegunner7223

    4 ай бұрын

    He does not even go down in the pen box barring on the odd occasion ...you are a Saka hater.

  • @rogerdavies2796

    @rogerdavies2796

    4 ай бұрын

    Grow up​@@truegunner7223

  • @user-gt9vc4zz1j

    @user-gt9vc4zz1j

    4 ай бұрын

    As a neutral saka is going down to easy​@@truegunner7223

  • @didierdugary6995

    @didierdugary6995

    4 ай бұрын

    You must hate Saka

  • @chrisweaver5222

    @chrisweaver5222

    4 ай бұрын

    Saka is mentally and physically soft

  • @sofakingspurs
    @sofakingspurs4 ай бұрын

    Growing up watching Keown play it is honestly very hard to believe that this is his personality off the pitch.... He comes across so soft, lmao....

  • @myabiaah

    @myabiaah

    4 ай бұрын

    he isn’t soft, he’s just doing the job his former club pays him to do, PR

  • @rolocadbury2036

    @rolocadbury2036

    4 ай бұрын

    That's just stupid. That's like saying that boxers or UFC fighters can't be nice people because of what they do but I'm sure a lot of them are nice people

  • @sofakingspurs

    @sofakingspurs

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rolocadbury2036 Didn't say anything about "nice".

  • @rolocadbury2036

    @rolocadbury2036

    4 ай бұрын

    @@sofakingspurs he pretty much said he comes across as soft after being a tough defender during his playing days. It's the same thing. I doubt most boxers go home and give their wives and kids a beating just coz it's what they do in the ring

  • @Jay-id8ym
    @Jay-id8ym4 ай бұрын

    'He's not the most fouled, but he should be', what kind of logic is that? Yes there probably has been challenges on him that warranted a foul that weren't given, but how many that were given shouldn't have been? How many should have been given on other players that weren't given? We could go on and on about this forever and still not come to the same conclusion, completely subjective.

  • @dreadybunks3411

    @dreadybunks3411

    4 ай бұрын

    because he does not get the calls , hence not the fouls

  • @Jay-id8ym

    @Jay-id8ym

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dreadybunks3411 I stated above he probably doesn't get some, I like how you ignored literally everything else I said.

  • @nickmildon6348
    @nickmildon63484 ай бұрын

    It's as if when Keown retired from football he also handed in his man card

  • @rebelwithacause8735
    @rebelwithacause87354 ай бұрын

    Saka tackles dirty. He have a style to run up behind you and then just put his foot across you. He hurt Tsimikas that way. Also did it numerous times in his last few matches.

  • @ifldiscovery8500
    @ifldiscovery85004 ай бұрын

    I am getting sick of Arsenal and all their crying.

  • @mattjacko08

    @mattjacko08

    4 ай бұрын

    Ya not the only 1 dude, action man flappin about on the touchline winds me up every game aswell

  • @rosshaugh7937

    @rosshaugh7937

    4 ай бұрын

    I think we all are. Arteta is loathsome at this stage and Saka has been diving for a few years now and getting away with it.

  • @snipergunner563

    @snipergunner563

    4 ай бұрын

    Well do something about it😂😂

  • @malcolmodoy2651

    @malcolmodoy2651

    4 ай бұрын

    "Hair flick" FC at it again

  • @halilmenevili205

    @halilmenevili205

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm getting sick sick of var for double standards

  • @ryanflood635
    @ryanflood6354 ай бұрын

    The fact he is 4 foot 2 and about 8 stone wet through probably has something to do with getting fouled. You only have to look at him and he is on the deck.

  • @jameshamblin8440

    @jameshamblin8440

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, those stats seem legit

  • @ryanflood635

    @ryanflood635

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jameshamblin8440 5,10 and 10 stone. If you can’t see through the obvious exaggeration. Iv had bigger roast dinners than him lol.

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ryanflood635he’s actually incredibly strong if you watch him properly. Just gets kicked, just like Diaby, Eduardo, Aaron Ramsey. They should have just toughened up shouldn’t they?

  • @willtallis5275

    @willtallis5275

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mf289yeah they should hit the gym and get stronger and maybe adapt his game to not invite fouls all the time and how many times does this kid look for fouls the whole arsenal team do it and have done since arteta has been there always looking for fouls not every contact is. Foul and he’s still arguing with facts arteta wouldn’t have said anything if his team won the last 5 games but becuzse they haven’t won in 5 he need a to complain about something rather than just geting his team to play better and score more it’s Always everyone else’s fault but their own

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    @@willtallis5275 hitting the gym doesn’t stop you snapping your leg from a studs up challenge.

  • @chrisweaver5222
    @chrisweaver52224 ай бұрын

    Keown is just amazing, he wants all sorts of rules to be altered to benefit arsenal, maybe we should just remove the other 19 teams from the league. We were proud to see grealish top of the fouls list as he showed that he was such a dangerous player.

  • @garronkaramitas4215
    @garronkaramitas42154 ай бұрын

    2024 and Keown still waffling!!!

  • @alenton81

    @alenton81

    4 ай бұрын

    Makes Danny Murphy look intelligent & interesting 😂

  • @DanielMartin-kk9tc
    @DanielMartin-kk9tc4 ай бұрын

    poor Martin, zero self awareness

  • @nabillarif
    @nabillarif4 ай бұрын

    just a reminder , Saka should have been send off agasint Liverpool...go and watch the tackle

  • @rosscleary9110

    @rosscleary9110

    4 ай бұрын

    Lmfao. No.

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    Was a shoulder to shoulder, pool player just wasn’t strong enough.

  • @jamiehiggins4794
    @jamiehiggins47944 ай бұрын

    Love Simon smirking before that fool starts speaking

  • @daviddenham1511
    @daviddenham15114 ай бұрын

    Football will be a contactless sport the way things are going……”touch soccer”

  • @RobertConway-im2ux
    @RobertConway-im2ux4 ай бұрын

    boo hoo hazard had that no moans there

  • @teknique1409

    @teknique1409

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly he even said its a compliment

  • @earleendesilva272
    @earleendesilva2724 ай бұрын

    I applaud Martin for speaking TRUTHS about these 2 consistently trying to CREATE a NARRATIVE about ARSENAL!! It was a meeting and NOT a letter written 1st of all. How did the complaint become public knowledge? I wonder if any other clubs concerns for their team will be leaked like Arsenal's was. Protection means players get carded with their !st hard challenge NOT the 5/6 tackle. CARDS ARENT BEING GIVEN HENCE THE COMPLAINT!!!

  • @FoxunitedFC29

    @FoxunitedFC29

    4 ай бұрын

    Bore off 😂😂😂😂

  • @sauceboy6929
    @sauceboy69294 ай бұрын

    The statistics provided are fouls when the ref deems it a foul and gives a free kick. keowns point is that he is the most fouled (with or without the ref blowing the whistle).

  • @Graziak5
    @Graziak54 ай бұрын

    Arsenal are turning from a well respected club into a joke. Whining about VAR and refs having an agenda against them, manager throwing tantrums on the touchline every week, now crying that one of their players is the 3rd most fouled player in the league? Need to get a grip

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    Klopp spent the entire Newcastle Game moaning. He also said the same about salah in previous years. But yh it’s all arsenal.

  • @Graziak5

    @Graziak5

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mf289 klopp is just as bad. Just because one does it doesn’t mean another doesn’t.

  • @mf289

    @mf289

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Graziak5 the narrative is hardly the same is it? Pep does it as well

  • @nawafalbaqami1328
    @nawafalbaqami13284 ай бұрын

    Keown is absolutely right, players can do a couple of dirty fouls on Saka and yet not get booked. Hazard used to deal with that and look what happened to him since he moved to Madrid. Players need to protected, and refs can set the tone very early in the game. Stop hating on Arsenal and be objective.

  • @bowser515
    @bowser5154 ай бұрын

    Has Martin lost all sense of reality these days? Every time he speaks, I genuinely wonder if he's just winding everybody up.

  • @ryanbarry34

    @ryanbarry34

    4 ай бұрын

    I know he's so far inside his own mind sometimes, mayhem in there

  • @hassshoban8206
    @hassshoban82064 ай бұрын

    Saka himself play dangerous fouls, he should have been sent off against Liverpool. He shoulder charged Tsimikas out of game to the hospital.

  • @dsvp4825
    @dsvp48254 ай бұрын

    What he actually needs is for arteta to find a suitable back that can play so saka doesn't have to play 100 percent of games . It was so obvious how saka gassed out last season from being overplayed and he still hasn't gotten a rest . It's going to happen again this year. Arsenal will regress this year after spending all that money because Arteta doesn't know how to rotate a squad

  • @onelove-1994

    @onelove-1994

    4 ай бұрын

    Arteta game management poor.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre43354 ай бұрын

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  • @jimjogger306
    @jimjogger3064 ай бұрын

    Arsenal are pathetic for this, Players win fouls, Players get fouled mostly because of the style of football they play, Nothing more.

  • @theboomletgroup8436
    @theboomletgroup84364 ай бұрын

    "Fulham were Bullying Arsenal" its called football you Numbty

  • @underwoodproductions
    @underwoodproductions4 ай бұрын

    If you hog the ball too much …. You’re going to get tackled …. Maybe saka should pass it more and quicker ?

  • @WinterburnDesign
    @WinterburnDesign4 ай бұрын

    Martin ‘PGMELO’ Keown

  • @mnf94-60

    @mnf94-60

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @franklinsaint84
    @franklinsaint844 ай бұрын

    I'm not an Arsenal fan but Keown is 85% right he almost touched on it but bottled it by not saying why. Grealish, Foden get awarded a foul if someone passes wind next to them. Salah and Saka have WWE wrestling done to them in front of some linemans eyes every game but get nothing. Your gonna then say but what about VAR. VAR doesn't need to get involved in decisions that don't lead to a goal/or involve dangerous play. It's blatant discrimination. Ooooh but what about Jordan Ayew, does it really matter if he gets awarded them or if he doesn't. Think about it that PGMOL is a controlled dictatorship mafioso organization. Who has been influencing games since the mid 90s

  • @sofakingspurs

    @sofakingspurs

    4 ай бұрын

    So you think its a league wide conspiracy not to give fouls on saka and salah do you?

  • @franklinsaint84

    @franklinsaint84

    4 ай бұрын

    @@sofakingspurs When's the last time you remembered Salah to have dived? Simon Jordan mentions at every opportunity that Salah goes down like he's been shot every time he talks about him. While Kane, Grealish and co go down at every chance they get to get con a free kick. Shearer was up in arms about Jota the other day but calls Kane clever. I'm not a fan of either Arsenal or Liverpool. I just call out unconscious bias when I see it. And if you can't see it your one of them or worse.

  • @Graziak5

    @Graziak5

    4 ай бұрын

    @@franklinsaint84 Kane, grealish, salah and Saka all dive.

  • @kubensamiuel5176
    @kubensamiuel51764 ай бұрын

    "He should be top" 🤣🤣🤣 What a joke of a pundit.

  • @msinco571
    @msinco5714 ай бұрын

    Anyone with eyes can see saka getting kicked from the moment the game kicks off

  • @londonsfinest6070
    @londonsfinest60704 ай бұрын

    There wasn't a specific letter sent to PGMOL dedicated to tackles against Saka, this is an issue that was brought up in a general meeting that was about something more important, this isn't a separate issue.

  • @allydign2749
    @allydign27494 ай бұрын

    The absolute nerve of the man, after him and his mates used to target Ronaldo and try to kick him off the pitch. It used to be entertaining watching Martin constantly embarrassing himself and getting cooked by Simon….now it’s just a bit cringey.

  • @edavis6077
    @edavis60774 ай бұрын

    How do u put Keown on radio?

  • @OlusolaA
    @OlusolaA4 ай бұрын

    Another stat they failed to mention: Most cards drawn in the Premier League this season (fouls won in brackets): 14 - Raheem Sterling (31) 9 - Morgan Gibbs-White (32) 8 - Josh Brownhill (18) 8 - Luis Díaz (22) 8 - Anthony Gordon (38) 7 - Phil Foden (33) 7 - Bukayo Saka (43) What this means is that you have to foul Saka SIX TIMES before a card is drawn. The other two guys on this programme are biased against Arsenal and it’s clear.

  • @duwwans1224
    @duwwans12244 ай бұрын

    Saka should be top of the list. The only reason is not is because refs don't give them as fouls. hence why the stats have not picked these.

  • @CH-vh1sw
    @CH-vh1sw4 ай бұрын

    The only shock here is that Salah isn’t in the top 3, he’s hacked at every game but isn’t on the list because refs don’t even give free kicks

  • @user-gt9vc4zz1j

    @user-gt9vc4zz1j

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @duwwans1224
    @duwwans12244 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan, you need to understand subjects you argue about. They are not saying Saka should not be fouled. They are saying the refs should give them as fouls when Saka has been fouled. The refs don't even give these fouls although he's recognised to be among the most fouled players. And all you find is to bring stupid arguments about Arsenal bottling the Premier league last year, etc.

  • @user-gt9vc4zz1j
    @user-gt9vc4zz1j4 ай бұрын

    I remember bernado silver hanging off salah and salah didnt get the foul. Silva did

  • @JamesSame-qf5uw
    @JamesSame-qf5uw4 ай бұрын

    Sakas on his back more than Keowns hairline

  • @abdulrahmanahmedshire4594
    @abdulrahmanahmedshire45944 ай бұрын

    Every 4 fouls on sake there is only 1 card, martin keown didn't prepared enough the arsenal complaints is it take so many fouls on saka to give, the argument is not he is most fouled player, jim and simon did dirty on martin, they have cleraly an agenda

  • @peggi18

    @peggi18

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @dineshravi8469

    @dineshravi8469

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed, Simon clearly has an agenda against Arsenal.

  • @nyakwargari
    @nyakwargari4 ай бұрын

    Actually, the fact that he is 3rd in the list emphasizes that his fouls are not given. "More protection" means give the fouls SIMPLE...

  • @mayeezy254
    @mayeezy2544 ай бұрын

    Arguing against statistics is crazy but more importantly Saka broke someone's collar bone nobody wrote to pgmol.

  • @paulh8744
    @paulh87444 ай бұрын

    1. We didnt go to PGMOL there is a monthly meeting to speak about games. 2. He is kicked off the park but not all are given. 3. It takes more fouls on him before a card is given. 4. this isnt the 1st time a manager has complained about one of his players getting kicked. 5. Again we are being told we dont like to be kicked last time we got 2 broken ankles 1 broken leg, and a broken ankle and ligament damage that almost lost his foot.

  • @Insertnamehere287
    @Insertnamehere2874 ай бұрын

    Keown constantly making a fool of himself when it comes to his defending of Arsenal lol.

  • @matthewmontgomery7628
    @matthewmontgomery76284 ай бұрын

    Didn't go to PGMOL. Didn't write a letter it was in pre season conversation with club and PGMOL. Like every club has, apart from a private conversation got leaked to the press

  • @stevenbozic8604
    @stevenbozic86044 ай бұрын

    So Martin Keown, heard you love a good statistic: Ayew, Guimaraes and Saka have all played 19 games. Ayew: 65 fouls received (1st), 32 fouls committed (4th) for +33; Guimaraes: 53 FR (2nd), 30 FC (5th) for +23; Saka: 43 FR (3rd), 23 FC (11th) for +20. This would indicate not only does Saka play just as much on the edge as Ayew or Guimaraes but that on average Saka will foul more than get fouled compared to Ayew or Guimaraes. Now Martin, would you share the same opinion if Spurs approached the PGMOL for more protection of their players? Case in point. Spurs are statistically the most fouled team in the EPL this season with 292 fouls, 38 more than Aston Villa in 2nd place. Arsenal? 8th place with 215. Now compare Saka with the lack of protection Spurs' James Maddison (out with an ankle/foot injury) has received this season. Even after missing 8 matches, Maddison is still in 11th place, receiving 30 fouls. That's 2.73 per match compared to Saka at 2.26 per match. Yet Maddison has only committed 9 fouls (0.82 per match) compared to Saka (1.21 per match). Statistically, what if Maddison had completed all 19 matches this season? 51 fouls received, 15 committed for +36, nearly double Saka's +20. Why let statistics get in the way of your 'narrative', Martin?

  • @calum1987
    @calum19874 ай бұрын

    Take it as a compliment - he's the biggest threat in the Arsenal team so teams go out of their way to stop him from influencing the game! If he doesn't like it, learn to dribble like Messi!

  • @calum1987
    @calum19874 ай бұрын

    Keown actually advocating for Arsenal players to surround and bully the ref to stop their mate getting tackled 🤣

  • @Mike-dk7wj
    @Mike-dk7wj4 ай бұрын

    Keogh was a taller version of Chopper Harris and should talk in very measured and thoughtful tones about giving attackers a gentle time because he rarely did within or outside the rules.

  • @mikepearson3226

    @mikepearson3226

    4 ай бұрын

    I watched Chopper Harris in driving snow take out a Tooting and Mitchum amateur winger with a sliding tackle that put the player out of the match. And that was a charity game!!! Todays players don’t realize how good they have it - by my calculation, Ska is getting fouled about once every quarter of a game. Hardly excessive- this is a non debate imo.

  • @Mike-dk7wj

    @Mike-dk7wj

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mikepearson3226 I watched Chopper regularly in the 60s as a boy, though I didn't support Chelsea. Every team had somebody like him: Utd had Foulkes and Stiles; Newcastle had Scoular; Spurs had Mackay and so on. I remember Harris trying to literally chop George Best into two at a night game at the Bridge. Best was entirely unfazed, and gave the entire Chelsea defence the run around, especially Ken Shellito marking him, and Chopper, who repeatedly attempted to kick Best into the terraces.( Actually into the greyhound track that encircled the pitch in those days.) Best was fearless and brilliant and the Chelsea crowd gave him a great ovation at the end.

  • @mikepearson3226

    @mikepearson3226

    4 ай бұрын

    Best was one of the greatest players I ever had the privilege to watch in the flesh. Brilliant player . I miss football in those times - on difficult surfaces in appalling weather . While it’s right to eliminate the violent tackles of those days , the game is completely different and worse for it.

  • @nigefal
    @nigefal4 ай бұрын

    Keown the player who took no prisoners as a player imagines that Saka is the most targeted player based on nothing but his own biases.

  • @mikepearson3226
    @mikepearson32264 ай бұрын

    I find it quite remarkable that Keown is complaining about fouls- he wasn’t exactly a bridesmaid when he played!!!

  • @ruthy0026
    @ruthy00264 ай бұрын

    You would have sent him in to the stands 😂 that did make me chuckle

  • @kevinrogers326
    @kevinrogers3264 ай бұрын

    Saka gets kicks from pillar to post every week. Players get 3 kicks before anything is done.

  • @renegadewarz1074
    @renegadewarz10744 ай бұрын

    No unfortunately iwo tracks back and makes challenges that's why he gets fouled more , could say the same for almost all players who play out on the wings, but it depends on how much they track back to where they are on the list , so players like Saka who play from inside his half gets fouled alot more than maybe a Salah he stands on the half way line , this is a silly debate anyway .

  • @gshawnuk3625
    @gshawnuk36254 ай бұрын

    Ayew is a pro foul drawer, he entices opponents to professional foul. Zaha was pro at that too, same as what grealish does. Saka on the other hand is just pedestrian and dwells , as he can't go past a player with his right , his infield cut back into his favoured left foot gets him fouled for his predictable play

  • @dreadybunks3411
    @dreadybunks34114 ай бұрын

    stats do lie , I am an accountant by education , numbers do lie

  • @blvckartstudios
    @blvckartstudios4 ай бұрын

    So what; Saka deserves special treatment, Cmon now 😂😂😂😂

  • @YanYnwa
    @YanYnwa4 ай бұрын

    Martin is so delusional. He is Ty of TalkSport

  • @dannydofficial1
    @dannydofficial14 ай бұрын

    Protection for players. I didn't know Arsene Wenger is back 😂

  • @rakimrobinsonMCFC

    @rakimrobinsonMCFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Not players. Saka just him, apparently he's being targeted for some strange reason 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @jameshamblin8440
    @jameshamblin84404 ай бұрын

    Well, why don't they talk about the whole article this comes from!?

  • @kwasikyei4873
    @kwasikyei48734 ай бұрын

    The worrying bit it in all is that this is just rumours. It’s not factual that Arsenal fc actually complained to pgmlo. Even if they did, how does this come to the media, if there’s no hatred towards afc?

  • @mrsinghsstereos6662
    @mrsinghsstereos66624 ай бұрын

    Saka feels he’s more entitled than Sir Marcus of Rashford

  • @slimbo689
    @slimbo6894 ай бұрын

    The last point on this is who said this on the Saka thing

  • @mewe1771
    @mewe17714 ай бұрын

    Sorry, but when has Keown ever stated Grealish should get more protection??? The only reason Saka is above Grealish for this stat is that Grealish has been injured this season. If Grealish had played as many games as Saka this season, Grealish would be the most fouled player ( as he usually is) and Keown would not care less....because he doesn't play for Arsenal.

  • @ChubberLang
    @ChubberLang4 ай бұрын

    It's just clouding over the fact that we lost two games in a row and we have been rubbish. That is what we should be talking about.

  • @KellzPlays
    @KellzPlays4 ай бұрын

    ‘Decapitate’ when Saka actually stuck a leg out at Palhinha after the aforementioned clean tackle ffs

  • @davehamilton9724
    @davehamilton97244 ай бұрын

    how of his fouls are slight contact?

  • @trevorsaunders580
    @trevorsaunders5804 ай бұрын

    Like Arsenal have never had players that kicked lumps out of other players themselves.

  • @bjorn2970
    @bjorn29704 ай бұрын

    They don't use their defensive skill and just lash out and foul.

  • @ArtetasCreche
    @ArtetasCreche4 ай бұрын

    Does Hodgson cry about Ayew getting fouled the most in the PL, or Howe crying about Bruno 😂. Saka deserves more protection than Ayew and Bruno who the hell does Keown think Saka is!

  • @mondlism
    @mondlism4 ай бұрын

    Martin arguing facts with opinions....He sounds like TY of AFTV

  • @mewe1771
    @mewe17714 ай бұрын

    The other thing that Keown is failing to mention, is that Saka dives all the time. So does Sterling, Maddison, Kane etc. so when Keown says he watches the game, why does Keown fail to mention Saka's constant diving (or Jesus, Nkethia, Havertz)...ahhh, because no one in an Arsenal shirt dives...

  • @King-Chub
    @King-Chub4 ай бұрын

    Like the same protection Van Nistelrooy needed? 😂🤡

  • @ske1598
    @ske15984 ай бұрын

    This is why people hate arsenal fans 😂😂

  • @neilharryjones
    @neilharryjones4 ай бұрын

    Crystal Palace did the same with Zaha and nothing was done, Saka needs to give it back, I was only a Sunday league player but if someone was trying to intimidate me they were getting a taste of their own medicine at some point in that game

  • @matthewgee8122
    @matthewgee81224 ай бұрын

    I like Keown but the start of this is just daft. The stats are the stats. Also, keown was exactly the sort of player to rough up the opposition's skilled players to limit their impact.

  • @RichieePasteka
    @RichieePasteka4 ай бұрын

    Can you ask Keown why Salah is not being fouled when he plays the same position like Saka?

  • @tonyzan5268
    @tonyzan52684 ай бұрын

    Keown: they are bullying us. Please protect us😢😢

  • @dreadybunks3411
    @dreadybunks34114 ай бұрын

    advice to Martin Keown .........dont argue with fools because people from a distance cant tell who is who

  • @paulduncan789
    @paulduncan7894 ай бұрын

    Martin I love you for your time as a player at Arsenal. But this is a conversation that actually happened in real life. "Saka is the 3rd most fouled player after Ayew and Bruno" "By my interpretation, from watching football, Saka should be 1st"

  • @skim7221
    @skim72214 ай бұрын

    ahahahahahahahahahaha so childish. they should also ask protection for arteta for people making fun of his hair.

  • @harryhill-es5jk
    @harryhill-es5jk4 ай бұрын

    Martin talking nonsense with this one 😂

  • @cdeford2
    @cdeford24 ай бұрын

    Most of those fouls will be minor. There are very few hard tackles these days. If you want more protection for players let's also have more action against the cheats, those players who pretend to be fouled or hurt.

  • @ganie7577
    @ganie75774 ай бұрын

    I am arsenal fan but this saka complaining to PGMOL is so embarrassing thats nonsense

  • @jackwilliams2049
    @jackwilliams20494 ай бұрын

    Did Chelsea go to the FA bitching about the amount of times Hazard was fouled/kicked? Or Barcelona with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta etc? Or Madrid with Ronaldo, Benzema, Modric etc? Only Arsenal act like victims and take over-dramatise everything

  • @reddes2773
    @reddes27734 ай бұрын

    Martin Keown that used to try and bully people complaining that Saka getting fouled😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @leebannister2776
    @leebannister27764 ай бұрын

    This is the Martin keown who was almost fighting van nistelrooy after that penalty! He'd make a good politician would keown, loves the sound of his own voice and never comes out with anything worth listening too.

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