Martin Keown saying Saka isn't the type of player who draws fouls but Ayew is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

Someone needs to stand him up to proper scrutiny.

keown was one of the dirtiest player during his time and he talking about player protection? 😂😂😂😂

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

He's vacuous and uninformed, what do you expect.

Martin Keown 100% has a train set

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, a vacuous, uninformed train set.

Will anyone talk about Saka diving every time inside the box?

@GuyOkafor-yl2dr

5 ай бұрын

No

@iceprince3572

5 ай бұрын

You mean like in last Liverpool game when the keeper grabbed his leg? Oh please!!

@mr.lucien2876

5 ай бұрын

They won't, as you can tell by the responses.

@scottking869

5 ай бұрын

Every player litersly dives in the box

@peggi18

5 ай бұрын

@@scottking869not every player cry’s about getting fouled tho 🤷‍♂️

Hazard was the most fouled player in the league consistently for 3 years. Never once heard him or Chelsea moaning like Arsenal now.

@theblackswordsman9951

5 ай бұрын

And look what happened to him. If you don't want players careers to fade out early they need proper protection. What a terrible analogy

@antonyallen8025

5 ай бұрын

​@theblackswordsman9951 he got a move off of it to the galaticos, costing over 100 million and a bump wage increase

@theblackswordsman9951

5 ай бұрын

@@antonyallen8025 Then his career died due to injury

@antonyallen8025

5 ай бұрын

The majority of the 18 injuries he suffered were muscle related, likely due to him playing 100s of games at the highest of levels since the age of 16

@user-cq5vj4en4x

5 ай бұрын

He showed up to madrid looking like a telly tubby and you want to blame his downfall on injuries

"he should be first on this list for fouls" (even though he isnt) tells you how biased and deluded arsenal fans are

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

For the love of football can someone please stand Martin up to proper scrutiny.

@AlexRichie

5 ай бұрын

Your comment nailed it!! Arsenal fans not worth speaking to.

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

I think it went over your head that comment. Try and engage brain and see if you can figure out why Keown thinks he should be top of the list (putting bias aside for one minute).

@yelladean2598

5 ай бұрын

@@MrKeefy1967Think it actually might of went over your head. I’ve took on your advice to engage my brain and try and figure out why Martin thinks what he thinks and guess what? It’s really doesn’t matter because factually based on statistics saka is third for fouls on that list.

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

@@yelladean2598 OK, for the hard of thinking I'll explain. Martin thinks he doesn't get awarded fouls by the refs as much as he should. If the refs gave a foul every time Martin thinks Saka's fouled, then Saka would actually be top of that list. That was what was behind Keown's statement. It's an opinion and you have a different opinion. He's biased but so are you. And it's 'might HAVE GONE over your head' and not 'might OF WENT over your head'. Happy to educate.

This clarifies not getting over the line. That soft underbelly and weak mindset remains... and under Arteta.

@codywatson770

5 ай бұрын

This is exactly it, when it gets tough the first thing Arteta and Arsenal do is look for someone or something to blame rather than looking with in which is EXACTLY how you fix things. He's a decent coach but not an elite manager and frankly don't see him winning much, he could get lucky and win a league like Klopp did and he is 50× the manager Arteta is

After Martin gave us his Tottenham and Arsenal combined xi, containing 11 Gunners... Now arguing against *FACTS* ... how on earth can he be a neutral pundit?!

@badcampa2641

5 ай бұрын

It is what it is

@jimmyfaulkner5746

5 ай бұрын

Don't think he's ever claimed to be unbiased

@BallJuiceOfZeus

5 ай бұрын

​@badcampa2641 Everything is what it is my guy 😂

@del8boy

5 ай бұрын

I see keown I turn off.

@lokischildren7862

5 ай бұрын

He's extremely Bias

If you don't like the HEAT get out of the Kitchen- Salah gets fowled and KICKED all the time- He just get on with it!

If it wasn't an Arsenal player this wouldn't be a discussion..

@codywatson770

5 ай бұрын

Yeah because Arsenal are the only team who are actively launching formal complaints and acting as if they are owed something trying to push blame for their bad form onto anyone and anything other than themselves.

@benjaminjacks1211

5 ай бұрын

Alachma boolokha folaka destitute and weak . Rassceloka Halla of people . Shitus on the shoelookala

@willtallis5275

5 ай бұрын

@@codywatson770I have to agree and it’s geting really stupid now and it’s only going to affect arteta and arsenal literally everything and everyone else apart from them selfs not scoring enough and aren’t actually as world class as everyone says they are they had there chance last season and still blew it you watch arsenal games every single arsenal player goes down for anything and saka is one of the best players isn’t that expected

@jakeansell5408

5 ай бұрын

​@@Sinbad-cd6ohneither would you be

Martin wants Saka to be protected so he can be free to injure Tsimikas etc with impunity.

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

Was that even given as a foul? No, it was shoulder to shoulder and a fair challenge, just bad luck that he got injured.

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

Martin is vacuous and uninformed and it shows.

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

@@hfwwf He's an ex-pro who played at the highest level for many years. That makes him more informed than you, me and for sure that windbag Simon Jordan. Silly comment.

@hfwwf

5 ай бұрын

@@MrKeefy1967 Regardless, someone needs to stand him up to PROPER scrutiny.

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

@@hfwwf Of course, that's what Jordan's there for, and he does a good job of it. And, of course, Keown does have a certain amount of bias towards Arsenal - it would be weird and very hard for him not to. Jordan's more articulate and smarter but to postulate that he's better informed than Keown, or any ex-pro of his experience, is nonsense. Football's all about opinions at the end of the day, some well-informed, other's not so much.

"He goes over like an old lady on ice skates"... hahaha.

Saka the BIGGEST DIVER in the league man, Keown needs to shut tf up, embarrassing 🤐🤐

@LukasMatejka-du5hb

5 ай бұрын

yes, you're the one to talk after that Jota "penalty" against Newcastle LOL

@lolorodriguez6863

5 ай бұрын

​@@LukasMatejka-du5hbit was an open net, he would have scored if he stayed on his feet, Saka dives when the angle is tight or he's lost control of the ball

@Ad-wu8te

5 ай бұрын

The only Liverpool attacker who does not dive is Diaz lol, and you want to talk

@emmanueladedeji3335

5 ай бұрын

No he isn’t, you weapon.

@amajeet

5 ай бұрын

Biggest diver if you mean he does it everytime, muppet! 😂

What about Saka tackle on Tsimkas few weeks ago that broken Tsimkas collarbone now is rule out for months now.

@LuE87

5 ай бұрын

You mean Klopp flopping on top of him? Ironic, if Klopp was in his technical area he would have managed to jump out the way......... oh wait that is only Arteta........

@AlexRichie

5 ай бұрын

@@LuE87ignorant/poor comment. Ultimately saka made a bad tackle on Tsimkas hence why he fell down in the very first place.

That first caller didn't understand the question he was being asked did he 😂

@SDCLFC1

5 ай бұрын

Thought that too - but it came out a bit second time around - was saying this is just an excuse for not addressing their football that has become obvious and that needs to change rather than Sakha being given more protection

Every player will now think Saka is a wimp and they’ll go out to kick him and take him out his game. Salah gets doubled up on and fouled all the time. Often doesn’t get blatant fouls. But he cracks on and becomes one of the world’s best players.

Saka needs to toughen up, and he ain't the only one. I remember the days when Maradona literally had people trying to break his legs, legally, and my dad told me all about what Georgie Best suffered.

@Rayunicorn1

5 ай бұрын

And you thought what happened to Maradona and Best was alright?

@solidsnake3446

5 ай бұрын

​@Rayunicorn1 stop crying in all these comments, it's embarrassing but typical for arsenal fans

@Rayunicorn1

5 ай бұрын

@@solidsnake3446 What do you have against crying?

@amajeet

5 ай бұрын

But you cry if your players are fouled over and over? 😂

Imagine keown going on about saka needing protection when he used to poleaxe players 😂 . Hypocrisy of the highest order , shut up Martin 🤡

@Rayunicorn1

5 ай бұрын

So you should speak but he shouldn’t?

Keown is making himself look silly here, Simon loves it! 😆

@thelegendthatischels

5 ай бұрын

Nothing new

Now everyone knows Saka is soft.

Arsenal are just embarrassing themselves at this point. How about focusing on putting the bloody ball in the back of the net

Goes over like an old lady on ice skates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Simon

Emerson didn’t need to foul Saka to insert him firmly into his pocket…

I am a newcastle fan its a contact sport bruno has be fouled more you don't see him spitting his dummy out saka needs to grow a pair

@LuE87

5 ай бұрын

Bruno he just cowardly elbows people from behind like a big boy. Big pair he has got. I think they must shrink the further north you go, must be the cold air.

Fact: Saka goes down easy.

@firstnamelastname-jk4qe

5 ай бұрын

No the fact is that is your opinion

Last season at Stamford Bridge, after winning a penalty for Arsenal, (and scoring) Saka said after the game..."I FELT a touch on my back so i HAD TO GO DOWN"... Saka ISN'T being fouled (all the time) hes BUYING fouls (most the time)

@lewisrichards5494

5 ай бұрын

Firstly that was 2 seasons ago, secondly he said he was "dragging my shirt so I had to go down" which Azpilicueta was you can even check back stop twisting words to force a point

@Law-n-Lyrics

5 ай бұрын

@@lewisrichards5494 nope. YOU go listen to the interview again. He wasn't grabbing any shirt. He touched him. Face facts... Saka isn't no victim. He gets fouled and WINS fouls like most prem players.

@lewisrichards5494

5 ай бұрын

@@Law-n-Lyrics go check that highlights again he was being dragged I remember it clear as day

"I was only paid a tenner a game" What has Saka's wages got to do with anything?

He's been tackled 80 times by the rules. Saka should go and play in womon football

Excuse after excuse for Saka. In reality he is massively overrated by Arsenal Fans and The Media. His stats show this. To put this into context - Riyad Mahrez 284 games, 82 goal, 61 assists - G/A every 1.98 games. Bukayo Saka 154 games, 37 goals, 32 assists - G/A every 2.23 games. Thats not even comparing Saka to the best wingers, Mane, Salah etc…

@FelixGallardo1946

5 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 Really helped them win the league didn’t he… Didn’t turn up in the majority of big games. Top players do it regularly in big games. Saka doesn’t. Nowhere near, Salah, Son, Mane, Mahrez in the recent prem era.

@theblackswordsman9951

5 ай бұрын

@@FelixGallardo1946 They are all much older than Saka. He isn't in his prime yet

@saurabhahlawat425

5 ай бұрын

I've never seen opposition teams doubling/tripling up on Mahrez which makes your analysis extremely shallow.

@seemymobot4987

5 ай бұрын

Lol Saka's 22

@redswastedtalents4671

5 ай бұрын

So Saka has played (roughly) half the games as Mahrez and got (roughly) half the goals and assists. Let's see Saka's stats after 284 games, then we can talk about if he is overrated

Arteta should have been punished earlier. The saying of "take an inch and they take a mile" Arteta, thinking he can get away with it, is asking for more again. Just ask Arsenal Football Club to STFU. Every clubs' best players are always targeted.

if Saka is 'fouled' the 3rd most... THAT MEANS HE IS BEING PROTECTED He gets the 3rd most free kicks - surely the being not being protected are the likes of Salah who gets booted and DOESN'T get the free kicks

@eversonpukayi9654

5 ай бұрын

You also don't get the point, Saka is fouled more times than those above him, but the refree doesn't give the fouls meaning it will not be recorded as a foul.

@TG-it8zt

5 ай бұрын

No, you clearly dont get it - the statistic is 'Saka is fouled the 3rd most in the league' That means he gets the 3rd most free kicks... Typical Arsenal moaning about absolutely everything... pressure of a title race got to them last year and it has already this year, you lot just cant handle it @@eversonpukayi9654

@moustaphamoussabouh9985

5 ай бұрын

​@@eversonpukayi9654 The numbers don't show he is fouled more than them😂

@Jonse70

5 ай бұрын

​@eversonpukayi9654 those stats are for foules GIVEN! The new Sterling.. so annoying to watch. He belongs on a diving team, end of story 😂

I wonder if Keown believes Ruud VN should have had more protection when he smacked him round the back of the head? If Saka was a UTD forward playing against martin back in the day, he'd have kicked lumps out of him. Embarrassing pundit, at least attempt to give a subject opinion ....

Keown's headed too many balls in his life

Martin Keown is so biased about anything to do with Arsenal, he makes me sick, Saka is probably in the top few divers ( cheats), Simon is 100% right

@phildemetriou440

5 ай бұрын

And.....at number 1 we have.....Harry Kane !

@abrahamola-osoko3414

5 ай бұрын

Keown is a Clown. Saka is a part timer Diver part time soccer player.

How do you protect him, tell the opposition they can't tackle him?

Wonder how Saka feels?? Because lets face it! If you are a MAN, and get paid millions of pounds for playing football...surely, you would find this embarrassing?? Or maybe not in this day and age!!

Martin Keown has to be the most blinkered, biased 'pundit' talk sport have! And that's saying something! Simon Jordan has him on toast here!

It's getting to the stage where any tackle is a foul

By highlighting concerns over Saka, Arsenal have achieved what they set out to do and are already in the heads of Referees. It will be interesting to see how much 'protection' he is afforded in the games ahead. It could of course always backfire on the Club.

1:37 Anyone thought it was gonna be KSI for a second? 😂

saka wouldn't last 5 minutes in the 80s and 90s he need to grow a pair just as well he aint playing rugby a man's sport not a pansy game

You guys are missing the MAJOR POINT, the issue is not that Saka is most fouled player but He needs protection like the first and second guys and others in the list, Ref. blows and issued cards more on other fouled players than on Saka's incidents..... be wise and guided STOP HATING ✋️

You can’t even touch a player without it being a foul, normal tackles are yellows. Saka dives no question about that. All players dive these days

Instead of seeing how often Saka is fouled, the refs will be forced now to see how often he dives and gets away with it…

why is martin always writing a novel.

saka is a diver, he has been for years, noone seems to mention it

@heredeemedme7013

5 ай бұрын

You’re a highlight merchant

@stevesalkas9128

5 ай бұрын

You.need new glasses fast 😅

What about Grealish ? , was fouled so many times last season and Man City never came out with statements like this 😅

@michaelelah8106

5 ай бұрын

Bottlers will always complain 😂

@AlexRichie

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelelah8106hhaaa well said

Simon was 100% spot on I think everyone can agree

saka needs some diving googles

Fully agree with Simon that Saka is a terrible diver, and also with the Liverpool fan in that Keown is always ridiculously subjective for any Arsenal matters.

TBH Saka was going down easier than Katie Price`s knickers against West Ham. Was looking to buy free kicks and a penalty all game

@DigitalNomad.1

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it was frustrating to watch they started playing for a pen when they went behind. They are cheaters and now they want special treatment from the refs. Antonio gets roughed up far worse but the refs never give him the fouls because he's a unit, so he doesn't appear high up on the fouls list.

@MJ-85

5 ай бұрын

@@DigitalNomad.1 spot on mate

Surely it also needs some context of minutes played per player, touches, possession of the team etc.

Why Saka gets more media attention?? He hasn’t won any major trophy and nowhere near he is elite player.

“P p p p p p please can you look after our boy a little bit better” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Keown has got the blinkers on!

If Keown really cared about this he'd advocate for Mo Salah who gets kicked and manhandled way more than that featherweight Saka. He's just a hopeless Arsenal homer.

I’m sorry Hazard has had an earlier retirement partially because of the way he used to get kicked; Saka doesn’t get kicked anywhere near Hazard used to.

@tevildo45

5 ай бұрын

He had to retire cos he wasn’t In shape and didn’t look after himself. He was known as a terrible trainer

@asapcharles_3555

5 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 you’ve missed the word partially; you are right that caught up with him but he had a 10+ year career and still performed in the “best league” with the constant kicks

@chamartinpl

5 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 You don't have any idea what you are talking about. During his first season at Madrid he had a terrible injury. He was kicked by Meunier. He had a metal plate in his ankle that broke into pieces, damaging surrounding bones. It was followed by at least two surgeries (maybe more). He lost his pace, agility, acceleration and he had to play with pain. Next time inform yourself and don't spread this anti-Hazard propaganda. Yeah, he didn't train well but that wasn't the reason why he had to retire.

We need data on Saka's fouls. How many of them were bought ie. He dived.

@timdurgan

5 ай бұрын

True but there have also been some crunchers that have gone unpunished. I think both extremes are true and valid arguments

Quite funny Keown talking about someone being fouled to much 😂

Legendary Martin Keon wins this argument 👏 as a professional footballer

Maybe Saka should start playing tennis

Poor old Martin. He’s a sensitive soul

Saka, like a lot of Arsenal players, dive.I agree with Simon.

All these players needing protection??? What’s all that about

Arteta denied speaking to PGMOL about saka 😅

It seems no one read the actual article. It was not a letter to but part of a regular discussion.

Arsenal are only complaining because they know they’re running him into the ground, the kid never gets a break just plays every game and has done from a young age. They just need to rest him and stop relying on him

If saka would stop diving, maybe people would have a little sympathy. Bruno gets fouled more but us toon fans are not crying. Saka, Sterling and Jota are dirty cheats

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

You toon fans are ALWAYS crying about something!

@LuE87

5 ай бұрын

LMAO you really do not get it do you? Its not about the number of fouls given, Brunos flops to get out of dangerous defensive postitions are very easy to get called, just like when he attacks a player from behind with a downward smash with his elbow to the head (big non-cowardly men attack from the rear as you Newcastle fans know) We know you are full of BS as you did not mention Isaaks beauty of penalty winning in your list.

@ninjashrimpgaming2657

5 ай бұрын

@@LuE87 blah blah, excuses FC 🤣

@ninjashrimpgaming2657

5 ай бұрын

@@MrKeefy1967 you must not watch much football lol

@MrKeefy1967

5 ай бұрын

@@ninjashrimpgaming2657 All I said is that you toon fans are ALWAYS crying and here you are crying over Saka diving! You've proved my point - thanks. For the record, I do think both our wingers spend far too much time on the floor.

Saka buys fouls and falls all the time it’s a part of his game. Our style of play is awful team has so little fight or tenacity

So Saka is creative and unfairly fouled but every other player isnt creative and looks for fouls. Give yiur head a wobble Martin😅

Many clubs probably complain the same about their star players but it happens quietly lol, not just a one club thing

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

Arsenal want him to be fouled more! The argument is HE ISNT GETTING ENOUGH FOULS!!!! Can't believe pundits haven't picked this up. The only reason the club give this a narrative is so refs see more fouls. Therefore give more free kicks. Therefore gain set pieces. Then get more goals! Noting to do with protection! The team aren't scoring. They want more set pieces so there tall centre halves get more chances. Takes pressure of their failing strikers end of.

In terms of making complaint to PGMOL it was a pointless exercise. What was the expectation or outcome sought?

Arsenal (its always someone else’s fault) FC

The real context for me here is how much booking opponents get from fouling him compared to those other offensive players in the same most fouled bracket

😂Look at how many times Hazard was fouled, was so much better than Saka could wish to be. Arsenal are a sad club

@eversonpukayi9654

5 ай бұрын

Chelsea complained about it but they did not write to the premire league board.

If Saka is buying fouls, what is Grealish doing then. You can't even look at him and he will go down straight away. If Saka started doing that everyone would start calling him a diver, so you can't win no matter what.

Noone who knows football can seriously claim that Saka goes down easily...... Case in point vs Liverpool when he SHOULD have gone over under the challenge from Alisson but didnt. Exception was vs Fulham the other day when he did dive but generally speaking he does not go down easily- foolish to suggest he does compared to others

Ayew, at this stage of his career, originates all of his attacking actions via initiating contact. I'm shocked that he is #1. A lot of refereeing decisions involving him are very suspect. Equally shocked that Guimaraes is #2 considering I only ever see him being the aggressor in challenges. The problem for Saka is that every player on the opposition team is given 4 or 5 swipes at him before anyone gets booked. The left backs in particular go in VERY strongly on Saka, who himself is very strong (recent examples: Cucurella, Emerson Palmieri, Tsimikas, Doughty). If any of these left back got booked in the 20th minute like they should have been, then we wouldn't see this discourse.

So what the heck does that have to do with Saka them playing the same thing over and over? 😮

First caller is also 0% Mo playing another character 😅

Its simply excuses for not winning - its the old Klopp excuse machine - its not our fault we didnt win its because ............................... Saka goes down easy a lot more than he gets fouled - maybe defenders should be protected more from Saka diving??

Coming from the dirtiest defender

Protect him how? No players allowed within 5 yards of him? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Keown is so biased its unreal. Saka is the biggest diver in the league and if keown csnt see that he draws fouls then he is deluded. You watch saka get every decision from now on. Pathetic.

Yet Saka injures players.... whilst being the first to put on the cry baby face and hold his leg. I'm certain Grealish has put up with worse.

So they want to be allowed to dribble like basketball players and get special ref protection as well? Hasn't Saka injured a few players this season? 🙄

Ayew usually shield the ball to draw in fouls… He is so good at that.

The guy who dives? really now Martin? He was lucky he didn't get a 2nd yellow for it in his last match

Everybody disagrees over things and can be right and wrong on occasions we all have our opinions but I genuinely believe Mr Keown is the biggest plonker who has ever sat in that Talksport studio the rubbish he comes out with is remarkable he is constantly proved wrong about most things but still goes away believing he was right 😁

Why does martin always look like he's filling an application form in?? What's he writing down??

Keown shouldnt be allowed to talk about arsenal, he talks biased nonsense

A winger who tries loads of take ons gets fouled more than the premier league average!! I’m shocked just shocked

Hang on, not fouled, free kicks awarded to, there’s a massive difference

Managers trying to strongarm officials like Fergie used to do and like Klopp does as a matter of course now. Arteta is trying but he's not on their level

P,p,p, please😂😂😂

Why do you think he gets fouled? All his cheeky goal celebrations of opponents. He invites the tackles.

I’ve noticed ex Arsenal players need help. Wenger has a lot to answer

@stud105

5 ай бұрын

Lol. 👍👆

The number of fouls actually called isn’t the point here….