Great to see everything coming together! I had been thinking that the poly tunnel looked rather short in previous shots and you'd not be able to fit many wagons in, but the shot of you pushing the wagon back after replacing the rails gave a much clearer picture. A note about the expanding fishplates - the theory is sound, but i'm not sure if you shouldn't have left a gap between the rails when you put them together. I'd expect it's quite chilly over there at the moment (it is here in sunny yorkshire!) so the rails will be in their "shorter state", when summer comes they won't have anywhere to expand out and may still cause you issues with buckling. When we've been rebuilding the local 3-5" gauge track we left a gap of a few mm (or about 1/8th of an inch) between the rails to account for next summer when things start to warm up again. Another advantage of the small gap is it means your carts will make a lovely train noise as they trundle along 😆

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

there was about a 2mm gap by the end. Sorry if I didn't show that more clearly. I've no idea how big is should be though. I will have to measure things when if gets really cold

@roseroserose588

2 жыл бұрын

​@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Ah, no worries! It's a lot easier to be critical when you're sat watching the video after the fact... I think the expansion will depend on a lot of different factors, so a trial and error approach is likely the best way to getting the gaps correct if/when you run into issues later (:

@jonathan1427

2 жыл бұрын

Mild steel expands about 10ppm/K, so over 40*C a 6m length will vary by approximately 2.4mm. you're certainly within the correct area!

Tim, I get a great satisfaction watching you doing your 'Track work' as it's such an ingenious way to build without traditional railway track and ties!

In all of the comments sections for your railway videos people keep asking about tractors or locos. What about a simple cable and pulley arrangement, you already have the power down at the engine house, I am sure you could use the belt pto as a capstan to wrap a wire rope around, I can't imagine you would need 4 or 6 mm rope. I was daydreaming about using a modified suffolk punch lawnmower roller as a pulley to pull a plough at our old allotment, tether the mower and cut the housing away from the roller, for a plough you would need a driver and an operator, but if you had stops in place at the end of the tracks and a snatch block above for the cable then you could drive from the engine shed. Or you could devise a water driven double bathtub arrangement, stay with me now.....

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I think that could work for the railway as it is now, but I'm hoping to make it much longer with many twists and turns, so it will need a different solution

@bootsowen

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Geese on a treadmill?

@haragorn88

2 жыл бұрын

@@bootsowen or the donkey

@grantofat6438

Жыл бұрын

@@bootsowen I think you need hamsters for that.

Excellent Job you two! Good entertainment for housebound folk.

Hurrah! Thank-you from Littlehampton West Sussex.

Sorry to hear you were feeling poorly but I'm glad you're both feeling better!

@Bibibosh

2 жыл бұрын

Covid kills only 0.02% and is overhyped in the news

@nathanmaxon4692

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bibibosh while it is overhyped, it still suck to get. Seasonal flu probably won’t kill you, but I’ll be damned if I wanna catch it

Nice to see you are almost at 4000 subs already. Sorry to hear you got Covid, hopefully you don't have any long term affects. Thanks for sharing.

@epapuelvalve3250

2 жыл бұрын

(I think he meant things were more difficult due to covid)

@oldskooljules

2 жыл бұрын

@@epapuelvalve3250 "It knocked us out for a few days..." Sounds like they got sick with it :/

@Kae.the.Selkie

2 жыл бұрын

@@epapuelvalve3250 they did both have covid. They mentioned it on their main channel. 😊

I hope you have both fully recovered from Covid. All the best

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Roy. We're getting there..

P.S. Here is a hope you two continue to feel better and better. I'm sorry to hear you had nasty COVID! My family in Virginia had it too. Ugh! Everyone is fine now though. And I'm glad to see you two are too! 💜

Glad Covid didn't hit much harder! as two of my favorite people, I worry for you both

Your KZread is the life I wish I could have one day, and I love trains.

I like that poly tunnel! Very sorry to hear about COVID!

@andrewreynolds4949

2 жыл бұрын

Additionally, as a suggestion, there should be some way to “feature” the other channel on this one, and KZread will add a nice link on the channel page

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I think I may have found the way to do just that! Thanks.

Sorry to hear about the COVID, I'm glad it was a mild case.

Suggestion: try to find curved pieces of iron or wood to line the entryways. This way, twigs and sticks sticking out of the carts won't catch on the plastic or the side of the entryway. The curve will help push the material back into the cart as well.

I'd go a tad wider than the bare minimum, as it's guaranteed the wagon sides will bulge more with use...

@andrewreynolds4949

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a strap around the middle will be needed

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I think a simple piece of wire across the middle will work, but obviously put in before they're filled

@GARDENER42

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Aye, maybe with a turnbuckle?

@kameljoe21

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Instead of wire, Just a strap of metal with a slot cut in both ends should work wonders. You have all of the off cuts from the plasma cutter and may have something in that.

If you ever re-think your locomotive, consider that older 2-stroke petrol engines (as from weed whackers, chainsaws, older lawn-mowers) can be fairly-easily converted into compressed air or steam service and can probably deliver somewhat more power. You can often get them for free from a small-engine repair service, the scrap-yard, etc.

So it looks like you can get 6 carts in there. That is awesome. The more you have the better! Now off to watch the other videos!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

In fact it's eight wagons big!

@kameljoe21

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 That is even better!

Glad you are on the mend. That railway continues to look better and better with every video- it looks so proper with all those wagons lined up in the poly tunnel. I suppose you had better make more wood chips to fill them up with!

I love the Irish version of Yankee ingenuity. Well done indeed. 👍

@leslieaustin151

2 жыл бұрын

Ingenuity is International, but in increasingly short supply! Les in UK

Hi Tim Thanks for the uploads, hope your feeling better now after COVID, love the simplicity of design and construction - this allows not only yourself but others to use the system without too many issues👍

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, SL. Still wobbly but not getting any worse

looks like a grand station :-)

Those two 'carriages' going along the tracks actually sounded train-ish. :D

Hi Tim, FYI I am not subscribed to your second channel, but YT is showing me all your new second channel vids on my home page. Having a very eclectic channel like yourselves, I tried the second channel thing for my own DIY vids and it hurt rather than helped. Hope you and Sandra are recovering from the COVID, 😀 Eric.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Eric. Yes, it's difficult to know what's the best way forward and I couldn't find any official advice. So far this second channel seems to be working ok though

@gardenfork

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 good to hear Tim! The only reliable info I have found on how YT works is from their official KZread Creators channel. I’ve stopped watching any of the ‘YT experts’ vids. BTW, YT now shows me tons of antique stationary single piston engine vids thx to you 😂 Eric.

Thanks for making these great videos I have really enjoyed watching this project

A locomotive seems to be a popular topic. I was thinking that one of the simplest ways to design it would be a flat car with 2 bogies, and shaft and gear driven from one side. In North America, these locomotoves were known as Shays. No need to power it by steam, though you could if you wanted to. Shays were very slow, but the power-to-weight ratio worked out very well.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I like the look of them too, Peter, but I'm not sure you can describe them as simple : - )

@leslieaustin151

2 жыл бұрын

I would have thought a carriage frame - or a steel tube frame if required - with a lawnmower (or similar) engine, with chain drive to an axle with fixed wheels, and possibly chain drive to the other axle, would have it simply sorted. Les in UK

Suggestion: You'll want to build bumpers on the corner of the carts to prevent the carts from slamming into each other as you're trying to couple/decouple them. In the full sized railroads, coupling cars was a very dangerous activity that either amputated and/or killed the person trying to connect the cars. Better to be safe.

I'm sorry to break it to you Tim. But no more railroading without a conductors cap. Sorry, I don't make the rules. Plus, they are so cute! Sandra will not be able to keep her hands off of you in that cap! 😂

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Maybe, if I ever make the loco : - )

Excellent progress! Hope your Covid symptoms are mild, we live your updates.

Imagine a locomotive that runs on fuel made in the drying tunnel, that would be cool.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Been loving your process in building your railway. If you ever plan on building a locomotive, I’d suggest something like what people do to make a chainsaw go kart . Take the engine from a small gas-powered too you’re no longer using, and connect it to the axle using a belt or chain system. For slow,” running, I’d also heavily suggest using a step reduction system like in your drill press. Don’t wanna go too fast on that thing.

Minor suggestion, for the shitch/turnout if you lengthen the point(s) you can make the bends less sharp/clunky.

@andrewreynolds4949

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he already did that once in a previous video

@ronbach6453

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewreynolds4949 In that video, the angle of the frog changed. I'm suggesting adding about a meter to the length of the point being moved from side to side; whch will allow for a smoother transition where the diverging begins.

Have I been using a hammer wrong all these years? I of course defer to Tim in all things like this

@VanderlyndenJengold

2 жыл бұрын

Who is this Douglas guy and does he realise his Fir is missing? Wood is expensive now in the UK - that is the reason I've been putting off building jobs, I'm waiting for the price to come down. I wonder how things are elsewhere?

@frederickmoller

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanderlyndenJengold It's the same across the Pond in North America, but from what I am hearing that the prices of wood is coming down.

@DrMunns

2 жыл бұрын

I can see why wood is so expensive these days, it's not like it grows on trees

Very glad to hear you're both on the mend. I love these rail road vids

Really fascinating to watch. By the looks of things, you'll be able to store 6 wagon loads of wood at once!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

By my calculations (which could be wrong), eight should fit in easily

@yma9197

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 when are you building the loco?

@yma9197

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 when are you building the loco?

Beautifully done beautifully done!

Excited to see all your progress! Loving both channels

@zane1os

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the other channel?

@kameljoe21

2 жыл бұрын

@@zane1os kzread.info WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim

Just a logical viewpoint! When it comes time for you to start moving those wagons around, might be keen to make their coupling bars longer. Their long bodies and short wheelbases will cause some issues, especially along the points. It appears to all be coming together well! Can't wait to see what more you have in store!

Enjoyed this video bro, yes not good you both getting the virus but good you are both on the mend. Safe travels

I can't wait to see both lines installed with the ballast.

on the topic of ways to pull the wagons- perhaps some kind of cable and winch system.

05:07 Yeah, but you cut it perfect haha, nice! Nice channel you have there, just watched 5-6 videos and subscribed.

now that you have two rails in the tunnel maybe its time to extend the poly tunnel and add two tracks to the extension would give you a lot of extra room. keep up the good work on the tracks.

You could put a wire tie across the cage to mitigate bulge. It would likely not interfere with filling/emptying.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. But I should have thought of that before I filled the first one.

@dewexdewex

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I'm terrible, I know. I think your Kleinbahn is fantastic, btw.

Are you thinking of building a locomotive for the railway? If so that would be very very interesting to see!

I was thinking about your wood drying storage and your rolling stock assets. I wondered instead of (the rolling stock) spending a season trapped in the poly tunnel. - have you considered a system where the cages could be independent of the wagon chassis and (somehow) transfer over to roller platform doohickeys (the sort they use in warehouses). This would release the rolling stock for well - rolling.😉Absolutely loving your videos.😀👍

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Norman. Yes that would work, but I'd need some sort of crane on wheels to lift them on and off, wouldn't I?

@normanboyes4983

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 A bit difficult for me to explain in words because I am not a great wordsmith. So my concept would involve the warehouse rolling platform set at a height to just clear the top of the basic rolling stock height (on the rails and at that location. The rolling platform would be say 2/3 of the width of wood chip cage and the aim is during the docking process is that the rolling platform would enter ‘a gap’ between the wood chip cage and the rolling stock platform that once docked would enable the cage to be lowered onto the rolling platform. Still with me? So the rolling stock and or cage would need significant modification, with supports along the long edges but that will clear the platform. When empty the cage would be mounted on the rails in their ‘high’ position - but the rails are able to move from high to low by the use of cams operated by removable levers. So it would be in the high position when loading and once over the dock the cams would lower the cage onto the platform which supports the cage and allows the rolling stock to withdraw. Just sort of thinking out loud..🤣

Much love to y'all

Such a nice feldbahn, I'll always watch these videos cause they're really interesting and nice to me, also wholesome, great work.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much : -- )

Get the wagons wearing corsets to stop them bulging! I feel you could benefit from horse drawing the wagons, but there may not be enough space in the rails & sleepers for a horse to plant its feet. Early railways had rails placed on buried stone blocks, completely solid & usually breaking because there was no room for expansion. I feel that if you were to provide towpaths, a couple of horses could pull the wagons from either side of the track?

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

You're right - not much space for a path down the side, and not enough room for their feet in between. That's why I'm considering a loco

Thank you all as always for another great project! Now I want one lol!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Well, why not!

Keep up the good work 😊

Thank you for the video

Wow, great work guys.

Thank you for sharing.

Waiting for the tiny Mower-sized locomotive. ;-) Great progress.

Glad you recovered from Covid! Railway is looking great

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

👍 It will be interesting to see the locomotive.

Love this channel

Once you get a locomotive you'll have 20' long double bogie log wagons rolling around.

one of the most beutiful foices i have ever heard

La semplicità va sempre premiata!

A train! Looking really good.

I would recommend coming up also with a loading guage. If the track guage is for the wheels, then the loading guage is the maximum dimensions of any rolling stock.

Loving the new channel Tim & Sandra

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Russell : - )

Those Railway cars look really nice and cool man. Looks like they role really well and you are making a set of wheels in your car it would be hard to make a set of locomotive Wheels with a gear in a chain. I've got a couple locomotives in my collection chain power

Can you not get hold of an old motorised garden implement and place the top on one of your magnificent wagon frames, you have to be the right person to do this and fit the mechanics, take care.

A small lawn tractor with the rubber removed from the wheels may make a nice engine

@Kineth1

2 жыл бұрын

Don't even need to take the rubber off the wheels. If the wheelbase is wide enough, you can just drive it outside the rails, just add a guide to the steering linkage to keep the front wheels pointed along the track.

Great video

I love it!!!! I hope that everything works out the way that you plan. I was wondering why you cut the wood so small. Here in the USA we have at least 18 inch logs. I love that you use even small branches but not here. It is good to see you.😀😀😀

@tonygrimes13

2 жыл бұрын

Input *way out west chipper* into KZread search to find their videos.

well done tim!

Oh no, hope you don’t have any major issues with the virus, sounds like you’re doing ok though

I would love to work with you people I love railway.😅

Next you should build a rerailing crane

Love the videos as always!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I started building a small steam engine out of old parts I have around, to run on rails inspired by your videos

Awesome

Good to see you are back and healthy! Fully vaccinated , did you ?

Be well soon.

I really like that locomotive, what class is it?

This bring me memory about romusha

Excellent :)

can you make a crossover on the tracks so you ride land vehicles over it

Maybe a human powered locomotive built from cycle parts or similar?

RR Tim, has come a long way!

i love it :)

Ok, after going back and watching previous videos, I have concluded something I am sure you have already considered and that is the weight of future rolling stock and your future engine being supported on your current role configuration. Any thoughts about other options or even commercial manufactured rails?

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't possibly afford anything else but the cheapest flat-bar. But I'm hoping that using more sleepers will give them enough support..

Wow you have Dwalt tools over there!

Widening the door may not have been necessary - if you don't need 2 wagons to go through the doorway at the same time. Leave the doorway as a 'pinch point' bringing the pair of tracks down to THREE rails and widening again soon after passing through the doorway. As long as the first wagon in was in far enough to leave enough width for the 2nd wagon, say 2 feet into the polytunnel, you'd get away with it !

I think you should use some finer mesh, so the sticks don't fall through.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Much more expensive..

@excellentcat3878

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe cable ties or something like that would be cheap and effective to subdivide the squares? This is what I used to do a similar job.

Get you a good electric motor that's 12 volt or 20 and angle iron a pulley weld on the backside of a wheel and weld you a frame fix you a chair on it and get some deep cycle battery

Ima bit late but I hope you get better 🤞

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks - still recovering, but getting there..

6:37 - whats going on with that hammer!? im sure thats not the official way to use a hammer 😃

A temporary solution is a bike driven wagon Along term gas alternative is a mother from a mower or a Tank Steam engine

do you make charcoal pellets to be used on a charcoal grill? they would be a money maker

Rather than widening the door, couldn't you have had the tracks a bit closer, then gone out the extra 2 inches once through the doorway? It would mean only one wagon moving in or out at a time, but that's unlikely to be too much of a problem?

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Now he tells me! : - )

@IIVQ

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. But that would indeed cost the space of one cart unless you wiggled some. Watching the current tunnel, I think you could even fit 3 tracks inside, but maybe it would cost less material to just exstend the tunnel.

Is there a risk of the metal parts rusting, maybe also when different metals are touching, eg point of contact wheel/rail? Would strategically placed pieces of sacrificial metal help?

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I think it will all rust eventually. I'll paint some parts with old engine oil

Hello Douglas

Do you have space for a "Dutch barn" to see if having all 4 sides open and a roof with a generous over-hang is more efficient for drying wood? (With your climate I'm not so sure, but empirical data can be surprising; and a barn with just a roof could avoid using plastic.)

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

We would have the space - but not the money! I'm sure a Dutch barn would cost at least 20 times more to cover the same area..

😃

get a second hand ride on lawn mower and just add a fixed axle on the front and then some rail wheels for the drivers , its a cheap and nasty loco but l have see it used as shunters at some minature railways

Tim casually forgets the other meaning to “my own bulge” I think the cooking part made it better though