Can we just take a minute to realize that this man is managing to do all of this without pouring thousands of dollars into it?

@bootsowen

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, time is on Tim's side.

@samuelhulme8347

2 жыл бұрын

Instead he’s pouring loads of euros 💶 into it. Lol 😂, he’s in Ireland 🇮🇪 not the US

@venusalien5153

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that. Probably hundreds of Euro's. Quite possibly even thousands. Ballast, metal, wood, tools; all of that costs money.

@richardmineall5428

2 жыл бұрын

he just had most of this stuff already

@thetransportationguy7930

2 жыл бұрын

Should’ve named the railway, The Get It Done. Other options. Great Little Railway GLR Homemade Railway One Man Railway (reference to one man band)

The way you are doing it is exactly how we do it on the big railroads in the U.S. We dump ballast up to rail head hight and then use a tamper machine to lift the track up and level it and align it. The big ballast trains have the same problem dumping rock as well. The train engineer will slam the train backwards and forwards to get all the rock out. We all so sometimes will lay a tie across the track on the rail head just in front of the trailing wheels to spread the rock evenly as the car is pulled. The wheels push the tie and it spreads the rock nicely. This keeps the rock off the top of rail and this keeps the car from derailing as well.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, good to hear I'm not the only one with clogged up hoppers

This is so facscinating - I can always think of 10 reasons why your plan won't work, but then you go ahead and make it work anyways! Absolutely great stuff! Wish you a speedy recovery!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Michael : - )

Never clicked a link so quickly! Love how it's coming together Tim!

Yay Sandra and Tim using all that elbow grease. You did it. And the wiggle stick! What an absolutely perfect name.

It took me a good six months to get over my bout of Covid, infact the recovery was far more unpleasant than the initial infection. Physical labour quickly left me utterly exhausted so well done moving all that ballast about. Cracking little chanel. Keep well all of you.

@ecovention

2 жыл бұрын

Hope your better now.

@ddjohnson9717

2 жыл бұрын

hope you get the vax now.

For someone who is recovering from Covid you're still able to put in a good amount of manual labour. Well done you! I hope the recovery keeps on going in the right direction.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jon. It comes and goes..

Oh boy the railway looks really good with some stone under it!

Love the railway videos.

When the problem with railways is you need a railway to build railways.... love this, great job!

Could use a lever and fulcrum to lift the track up about 60-80mm. Put fulcrum between ties and lift up tie in front, or maybe next one, then block that one up and move backwards, lifting and blocking, then spread ballast underneath. Great show, great railway. Great everything. Cheers from NZ.

I like your simple approach to issues. ( you can be quite technical when needed, your CAD laser cutter for example ) The mattock lifting the track and sleepers is a great simple solution. The end result looks fine. Keep posting please.

I’m really loving the more regular uploads slightly shorter and a little more organic. The two separate channels seems to help as well, you sort of know what you’re getting. Be nice to see how Sandra is getting on preparing the vegetable gardens et cetera for winter? Thank you for your lovely videos

There is a well known result in hopper design that says that the outlet hole at the bottom of a hopper has to have a minimum dimension of at least five times the diameter of the grains you want to drop out, else they will jam. Even then it doesn't always work. As a teacher I can attest that the same rule of thumb applies to little boys exiting the assembly hall out of the double doors. Year 7s manage fine, year 10s get stuck. But then it was a Grammar school so they were maybe not very clever.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Bigger doors for older children makes perfect sense : - )

We call the work your doing on the tracks as Gandy Dancing ! I did that for 2 years while I was in high school , worst job I ever had !!!! Lol. The people making those suggestions must be mechanical Engineers and never broke a sweat or blister doing that kind of work ! It’s fun watching your mind work ! Lmao 😂 !

I could see putting the gravel down first before the rails and sleepers if you were extending the line, but once the track is already in place, it makes more sense to ballast it the way you're doing it now. For adding to the line, a flat car with 3 sides and an open end would be handy for hauling ballast to the end of the line, you can pull the ballast rock off the end of the car with a hoe and spread it, then add the new track section on top of it.

Good day and have a nice weekend. I watch the most of your videos and admire your courage to doing all these stuff.

Excellent work, FYi, on the big railroads they dump ballast on top of the rails and sleepers and tamp it in just like your setup, it's the only way, otherwise they would need lots of trucks to haul it in.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that : - )

@SarykMoBa

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Albeit in germany, the 'big' one have quite the sophisticated machinery for doing that wiggle job kzread.info/dash/bejne/loN8sKiQj9DJetI.html - they dumb the stones using hopper-wagons, then force feed them under the sleepers and brush off the excess.

I have to take my hat off to the both of you - not many people would even attempt to do anything like this :)

Oh, how lucky you are with your woman! She helps you and seems to enjoy the hard work :)

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, yes!

You guys are brilliant. I love the way that you work together so well. Keep up the great work. I love the little railway.

The 2 wheel idea, a rotavator would be good, I saw them being used in SE Asia and if you used wagons with normal tyres you could tow stuff round the farm away from the railway tracks.

Problem solving is very much your skill and asset. Brilliant.

It's taking shape!

Another fabulous achievement well done tim and Sandra

Your solution is far more charming and suits your overall design in that regard. I wanted to mention that I have a few manual dump trailers for use around the homestead. Besides the problem of making a trailer that can be easily dumped by human power, I often came up against jamming issues like this. It did not matter how smooth I made the bin, things always found a way to stick to the wood. Anyhow, there is not much point covering all of the trial and error, but the fix in the end was very simple fast and inexpensive. Delrin, or UHMW, whichever you prefer. These are virtually non-newtonian in the lack of friction. I often use a pair for moving very heavy machinery. It seems like the heavier the item you put on it, the more definitively UHMW traps air between the two layers. I have been able to move 5 ton machines just by pushing on a pair of these mats. They worked for me just as well in the trailer. I just got a sheet of quarter inch thick and lined the trailer with drywall screws. I did not even bother to caulk the seams or countersink the screws. Everything slides out now. Even mud that has that odd suction quality to it, it just slides right out. It's also extremely resistant to scratching and denting. I think a half sheet of this would solve your hopper feed issues

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - I'm impressed!

Good job Tim! It's starting to look like a proper railway :) Just don't offer to show your wiggle-stick to any ladies, or the police may come around ;)

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@crazyfvck

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 :)

The ballast will also make walking on the track bed much easier, with no mud, if you can get the drainage right!

The rail you designed I think would be a good budget friendly solution for a very small scale mine.

Recently found the channel, and I love it!! For a locomotive I found another video on YT from someone who made one of an old riding mower. I think that is a really handy and cheap solution for a starting point!

I would also suggest lifting the track and then pouring the gravel. I guess people recommending that don't mean _removing_ the tracks, but rather propping up the sleepers with some temporary shims, pouring the gravel, then removing the shims. Lifting the track post-gravel-pouring seems cumbersome, although I'm not sure the suggested procedure requires less effort in the end. Yet another idea, as the rails are somewhat light: have a flatbed wagon with an enormous lever mounted on top, like a seesaw, where the business end features two chains with hooks to lift the track. Surely, the lever would have to be very long as one couldn't lift the track thats directly below the wagon.

I actually think I know what that commenter meant you mentioned: What full sized railroads started doing was using hydraulics to lift the track up, but the actual track laying machine has both tank tracks and rail wheels behind them (Germany invented this it seems). The machine is an all in 1 track layer doing everything in 1 pass, it folds together the track which is quite a site to see. All the track is laid in long bands that are continuously casted directly from a furnace. This makes it possible for the track layer to just drive along at a slow pace folding the rail that has been placed aside of where it will go, then under it the machine places the ties (ballast has already been put in place by trucks or some other machine), tamps the ballast around them and spikes down the track. Reading back in the comments, someone else commented on how we do it in the USA, but that is with existing track, not new track, where we just lift up the track to grade height and then tamp under it. Now that aside, in your situation it would be best to have some sort of cheap tool or mechanism to pry up the track to push the stones under a bit easier. Like you even said, the ballast hopper is to make laying the ballast under the existing track easier, your not laying the ballast before hand. A large shovel, maybe modified one, might be best and cheapest for gently prying up the track while under the ties.

the remove the track and then put the gravel down and then put the track back only works if you have aome really specialized equipment, just look at the real railways, probably a good idea to look at the types of wagons used on some of the welsh narrow gauge railways to see how they do it

@TheDiner50

2 жыл бұрын

Common. The solution is simple. You do the work with a wheel barrel before laying down the track in the first place. Or you use the single track thing he showed us before. Get the stone on the ground and then put the final track down. In both cases the 2 railed track should be put down after the stone is put down first. But hey if messing about getting stones under the sleepers are a option the ok. Not like your not going to have to mess about with the sleepers anyways, getting the rocks and overall groundwork set up right require some work to be done with the track put down. I wish there was some real insensitive to make my own railroad. But I can not see a good reason to do it :c Just not practical or useful. Even if it is cool I can not get away from the ide that having a small tractor is just much better use of ones time. Bit more expensive in building trailers. And without a working engine there is no hope in moving it by hand. And mud might be a problem in some places in the world. But there is no reason for me to build a railway. Sadly. The rail cost is so much higher then just having a old tractor on wheels.

just a suggestion , on the floor inside the wagon , the area between the ends of the two sliding gates that let the stones out , place a V shape piece of steel across the bottom on the narrow width so that it has an angel directing the stones out the hopper doors. it may make the stones run better. It only has to be about 6 inches high.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that might make things worse? Everything trying to get through the hole at the same time, but I'm not sure.

I hope you are happy with your railway. I don't know many people that could come up with such a plan, and less that would actually build it. I think your rock wagon is pure genius !!!

In some trucks here. Have device that shakes to get all the sticky fill out. All it is a offset weight that spins in a box attached to the bin. I wonder if you built one but use a cordless drill. Turn on the drill and then open the gates.🤔 Good luck on your project. From across the pond.

Lift the track, put some wood underneath the edges of the sleepers even long strips to stop it sinking in the mud, drop the stones in the middle and pack them under the sleepers and than remove the wood for the next section and place the stones on the side, great job in thinking and creating it right from the start, cant wait for the next video

"wiggle stick" technical stuff here lads!!!

That's a beautiful wiggle stick you made there.

Your on the right track with your train 🚆 of thought Tim on how to move and lay the stones on the rail system. Simple solutions. Brilliant keep the railway vids coming there great!!!

Getting product to flow out of a hopper car is an old problem. In the state of Colorado, USA where I live, our local power plant uses "car shakers" to loosen coal that can be frozen in the 100 ton open top hoppers. The shaker consists of a large steel frame with a pair of electric motors on it. The frame is lowered on top of the car and the motors rotate counterweights which shakes the car (wagon) on its truck (bogie) springs. This allows the coal to flow out of the bottom discharge doors easily.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Interesting to hear.

Its starting to look like a proper railway. 🚂

You both make me smile. x

You're doing a grand job, keep up the good work.

Amazing project… greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Nice job Sandra & Tim

Most modern railways have a machine that has several hydraulic jack stands that lift up the rails & sleepers while pouring the stones under the sleepers. that same machine also travels along the rails. Such a thing is huge & expensive which is too much for you to cheaply emulate.

@clDTutube

2 жыл бұрын

Huge & expensive & devilishly noisy. I used to live next to a railway and they refurbished the line one night to avoid disrupting the trains. I woke from the most horrific nightmare ever as it slowly approached down the track in the early hours. But impressive once you are awake.

The track look much better with the stones and in real it is certainly for the stabilizing the track. You make great stuff.

I'll bet the stones will work themselves under the wood the more you use the railway.

Don’t forget railroads grease the rails. You could probably get away with a little beeswax or graphite paint. Love the show thanks

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I had forgotten that - thanks!

Im planning a potential rail that runs along the outer edge of my 2 acre scrapyard. A solar powered engine is doable by my math. My little engine will basically be a 1500w solar array on wheels that I can also use as a portable power source.

Hurrah! Thank-you!

Having spent a couple summers on a light rail track at a mining museum, your method of lifting the rail tie/cross member and then tamping the bed media underneath brings back many memories. While the track at the museum was a good bit heavier than your track, the principles are the same. The bed is meant to give and take, while transferring the live load of the cart/train in a manner that does the least amount of damage to the bed, the rails, and the load (cart/train), all while keeping the whole system in place and safe for the users. As such, the more time you spend on the bed, the better the overall system is going to be as it is the foundation of the rail system, its weaknesses are magnified throughout the rest of the system. Beds are like plants and need different levels of maintenance at different times, in different frequencies, and therefore must be monitored regularly. Great job and can't wait to see more videos.

@TheOriginalFreak

2 жыл бұрын

NOTE: the track at the museum used 4 foot long 6 inch x 8 inch oak ties soaked in kerosote and lasted about 10 years +/-, requiring annual replacement of dozens along the 1/4 mile route. You haven't worked hard until you carry one of those on your shoulder 50 foot at noon in July, and then have to set it in.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a lot of work - but satisfying too? I might have to consider concrete ones..

@ianpidgley9720

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 several railways have started experimenting with sleepers made from recycled plastic, they last basically forever as they don't rot, and are much lighter than the concrete ones

Great show!

I am glad that you found a system that works for you. I love the corner brackets.

I need more railway video!!! Hello from Texas. I want to make my own railway.

I think you are doing an outstanding job on your railroad. I heard sometime again that just about anything can be done simply with "brute force and ignorance" meaning if you don't know you can't do something you can do it anyway if you put your mind to it. I can see many uses for a railroad like this on my farm.

Great sharing 👍

It’s just perfect and will save so much back pain and Sandra you are a strong German lady for sure! Love to you both. Paul in the Isle of Man.

Thank you for explaining how you get the stones under the sleepers. I've been wracking my brain over it since the last video trying to figure out how it would work lol

Well done!

For lifting the track I think you can use some kind of car jack. These can handle the weight of the track and the wagon and are pretty low.

Brilliant as usual Tim..

It's amazing what you two do with Tim and his inventions we think he's a genius.And Sandra with the animals your so lovely.We will watch on later.We love your channel .You both work so hard.With love best wishes.🎅🎅🎅🎶🎶🎶🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🎶🎶🤶🤶

Surely you could add a piece of linkage to each end of the wiggle stick and attach it to the wagon wheel slightly off center. Then, theoretically, the motion of the wagon would provide constant wiggling

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I know - I had it all drawn out with cams on the axles, but went for the simpler option instead

Wonderful job. It looks to be working well now! Your solutions always seem to be simpler than what I can think of. Hope your recovery continues!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - me too!

That worked out well bro, good to see the 2 locomotives working together pushing the ballast wagon along the track too. Made for great viewing. All the best

Well done to you

In the realm of network rail, you put ballast down first, sleepers and rail, bit more ballast then tamp it. Fully aware you're not doing it to that spec, but the ballast under the sleeper helps with transferring the load and stops the sleeper sinking into the ground (as well as drainage). Just highlighting so you can build your track to be as little maintenance hassle as possible.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but how do you lay the ballast down first? On wet ground, without machinery?

@benbentley26

2 жыл бұрын

​@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Lay some terram down where the ballast is going, to help with the stone not penetrating the soil and not losing it in the wet ground, then you'll have to manually place the ballast using a wheelbarrow and rake. I don't know how long your steel sections are, but say if they are 5m long, ballast up a 5m section, lay your sleepers and rails then do the next 5m. I wonder if you made a tipper truck, you could move your stockpile along to the end of the rails where you want to extend, and drag the stone from there. I hope this helps.

@doct0rnic

2 жыл бұрын

Railroads build track first then ballast, it's the only way for the ballast train to dump it in the first place

Looking good 👍

You should put a wheelchair motor on the ballast wagon so you can move it.

It's looking a bit like your next rail project vehicle will be the lawn mower / veg trimmer ! #overgrown.

looks like it's time to build a Loco, with how heavy the ballast bin is. Perhaps you could cannibalize a garden tractor or some other small engine machine and use either pully or chain to drive the axel.

I recommend that a coupler needs to be added to that ballast wagon. And also, I hope that their can be some locomotive’s running on the railway. Some small locomotive’s pulling small trains, and extend the railway to neighboring farms and help them out.

You're doing a great job keep it up. The video's are great and very inspiring.

You guys are VERY impressive with what you have been able to acomplish

Kudos. Great job.

I think you could use this system to unload the firewood wagons and they could be lower, not needing the gates to go down. Also, you could choose to pull the bottom from the side or from the front or back. :)

I think it's time for that locomotive!

Think you could look at using old engine oil to run heat things. To clean, use a centrifuge and wash with antifreeze . Gives you soap I think as well. Also when making charcoal use the gas given off also to run engines and heat. Use the heat to grow or heat the barn.

Nice work.

Ok, I'm gonna be a new subscriber here. The project seems really interesting to me, seeing idea's being worked out and made into a reality, all done with the voice over which has that accent of a Yorkshire man who wants to tell 'er tale abou' day in mine. Or however you type a Yorkshire accent lol. Definitely entertaining to watch and listen to, so yeah, I look forward to seeing the old videos and being around for the new ones!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Those rails could easily support a loco.... Go on Tim, build a loco! Please!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to, Liam, but really there are more important things on the list first

@liamholcroft7212

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I know, I'm just too eager for a loco on the channel haha.

@hayttom

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299Silly list. Loco next!

Looking good now the stone is in. When I saw the wiggle stick an alternative would be to have a shaft through the box of stone with tines on and a handle on the outside the pusher could reach and rock every so often. Might give move control on the distribution as you can push and wiggle at the same time? But then we're all getting flustered over ballast and I bet your already on the next adventure!

I love this series!

Great stuff, thanks!

I wondered if perhaps the “anti jam bar” at the bottom could be improved if it passed all the way through the skip from left to right and had a handle on it to turn it like cranking a stationary engine over , the anti jam bar would obviously need some kind of lugs added to agitate the ballast as it turned

Sandra is pushing 500 kilogramms !!! She's a really strong woman, don't mess things up with her, Tim. 🤪

Yep definitely the right way to do that.

Really cool. I'm hoping when I move out and maybe have a wife that I can do something like this. Looks very fun. Also tip to you is trying to make a gas powered engine for the railway. (Gas tank, gas engine, chains to wheels. Just so you won't break your spine or legs.

Good thing Sandra is strong

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

Very impressive

you need to lift 2-3 sleepers at a time before dumping the stones. Look at videos of track laying cars. They usually lift the track dump stones and then slide the sleeper into place. I think a wooden wedge at a right angle on the tip of a stick will let you hold it in place and hammer it under the sleeper from both sides with a sledge hammer so you don't need to bend down. Make 6 of them so you can lift 3 sleepers. As long as the wedge is only 3-4 inches thick it should still allow you to push a cart over the track. Then as you fill it you work your way along the track. If you decide to build another one make it dump to the front by raising it up a foot and turning the hopper. That would allow you to dump roughly a foot ahead of the wheels and only lift 1 sleeper at a time. A brake to keep it from rolling away will make it easier.

@motomotomotomot

2 жыл бұрын

I can't say your idea is bad, but his system works and it's amazing x)

Laying the track bed ballast first then the track followed by top ballast is the normal way to lay a railway line. On a track like yours if the bed ballast is good enough you may not need to tamp. Hand tamping is hard work.

@kameljoe21

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I doubt he will have to tamp. Once he gets this all laid he can lift and adjust when or if it sinks in areas.

@cyrildhy8993

2 жыл бұрын

@@kameljoe21 That is tamping

"Rails are Wrong >:( " Well to all of those, the sleepers are sturdy, the rails are secure, the pipes are working great as tie downs and this is for a farm, not a business. If you are not going to do much over a couple thousand pounds that rail will do you just fine.

Very nice. I hope you will be building a locomotive (maybe electric) to pull/push the wagons.

How about something like a two bar riddle with a lever on the side of the cart? Or even better, gear it to the wheels and have it self-riddling!

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

2 жыл бұрын

I like it!

@ralpha679

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I realise on reading back it might not be easy to picture what I'm trying to describe, but imagine the riddle grate on multi-fuel or coal stoves.

You need a locomotive and you should use Janney couplers(safety and efficiency), especially if you have locomotives running

Now that you don’t have holes between the sleepers you can maybe try using a horse or donkey to pull the wagons. Would be quite entertaining.

@tonygrimes13

2 жыл бұрын

Not enough space beside the rails!!!!!

Very cool!