How Do You Cut Finger Joints On A CNC Router? Easily! (Also called box joints..)

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  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight3 ай бұрын

    I like shelves that fit plastic bins for a lot of my odd parts and items. That's helped me to organize a lot better than I used to. The key is very detailed and large print labeling of what's in each bin, or else I'm very likely to forget what I have. I've been meaning to also make a digital list of all the stuff I have so I can quickly search through it before deciding I need to buy something.

  • @schwuzi

    @schwuzi

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you again Ben for sharing this channel years ago in one of you community posts. I think it was at the beginning of the railway project. I've watched every video since then, yours too of course. It's really nice to see your comments pop up here.

  • @Convolutedtubules

    @Convolutedtubules

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you kindly for sharing.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm holding out for a pack of elves - to help find all the things I know I have somewhere but just can't find.. : - )

  • @IrelandLover

    @IrelandLover

    2 ай бұрын

    Great to see you here.

  • @VanderlyndenJengold
    @VanderlyndenJengold3 ай бұрын

    Lovely stuff. Anyone else wishing they could vacuum all that sawdust up?

  • @graemewhite5029

    @graemewhite5029

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup, always worry when I see him grinding or welding with the straw/sawdust/cobwebs around that would soon catch light from a random spark.

  • @patchvonbraun
    @patchvonbraun3 ай бұрын

    Over this side of the pond, that material is called OSB -- "Oriented Strand Board". It is also available cheaply here and is often used for sheathing on both walls and roofs over here.

  • @cooperised

    @cooperised

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep it's called OSB here in the UK too. I think we're being treated to a local Irish name!

  • @MakingWithMihir
    @MakingWithMihir3 ай бұрын

    Tim, you have the most marvelously simple solutions to some really quite annoying challenges. I so eagerly look forward to your video uploads 😊 I'm studying to be an engineer right now and I hope one day I can solve problems like you do!

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your kind words, Mihir - I think you could already teach me a lot of things!

  • @CNCmachiningisfun
    @CNCmachiningisfunАй бұрын

    Very nice indeed. I will need to make similar drawer sets for my new machine shop. A couple of ideas come to mind about the curved fit between the finger joints, where the CNC machine can do all the work, on the stock, as it lies flat. Being lazy, I like to let the machines do all the work ;) .

  • @roycarter6235
    @roycarter62353 ай бұрын

    You never cease to amaze me with your ingenuity and can do attitude.

  • @ShredPile
    @ShredPile3 ай бұрын

    The way you created three sizes of drawer out of one cut file or part pleases me to no end. It ensures that you can just build racks and drawers that fit anywhere until you run out of room to mount them and things to fill them with. The only thing better would be a drawer box that just used one size piece to create the square drawer by butting and lapping itself in a square circle so to speak. Excellent video!

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    over to you with that one Jake!

  • @everett86
    @everett863 ай бұрын

    The solution in the plywood furniture industry is to just add a little semicircular cut inside the corner so that the other board can make a square fit. This has the disadvantage of making a slight gap in the corners though. In furniture its all covered up however. I really like your solution here, Ill have to keep it in my box clever ideas Ive stolen from others!

  • @teabagmcpick889
    @teabagmcpick8893 ай бұрын

    Top job. that man! I think this counts as thinking both inside and outside of the box at the same time.

  • @michaelkolano8686
    @michaelkolano86863 ай бұрын

    the only thing i think is worth adding is a coat of paint for the drawers themselves! different colors for the sizes or uses would help finding things at a glance, or you could just paint labels on it too.

  • @springwoodcottage4248
    @springwoodcottage42483 ай бұрын

    Even more messy & saw dust contaminated than my set up which puts you gold medal level for doing but not cleaning. Would have been easier to make dog bone joints as mentioned in another comment or a simple manual router table, although I find osb board tends to edge splinter on manual router tables with out backing boards, but you got what you wanted. I have used pallet wood, but it needs extra steps to dimension although lower cost, but each to their own. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jamescoxall322
    @jamescoxall3223 ай бұрын

    Wonderful. Iv made lots of stuff with OSB a coffee table and a small chair for my daughter

  • @dfishpool7052
    @dfishpool70523 ай бұрын

    Thank you Tim for the presentation - very informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work.

  • @davidquerry8869
    @davidquerry88693 ай бұрын

    To late to mention now, but. There is a "dog bone" joint option of machining on the CNC, to work around not having square corners for finger jointing.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, but they are much slower to cut aren't they?

  • @davidquerry8869

    @davidquerry8869

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 They take a little more time to machine, but. You can drop a sheet into the CNC, let it run, do something else, and the parts come out finished. Now your cutting the parts on the table saw, and flipping those parts around how many times in the CNC. Unable to do something else.

  • @robotskirts

    @robotskirts

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 seems unlikely. You made multiple multiple passes to fully clear between the fingers, but if the board was laying flat cutting the dogbone the bit would only be tracing the interior walls of the finger. The bit would jog maybe an extra 4mm on each interior corner. I think dogbones are usually avoided because they scream cnc furniture and there are only a few ways to strategically hide the gaps they create. But that might not be a concern in shop furniture.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I would still need to take multiple passes whether it was flat or upright - because I have a small router.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I'll race you! I bet I could cut four in the time it takes you to cut one..

  • @gfr2023
    @gfr20233 ай бұрын

    very cool !!! I ever wonder if I could cut fingers joints on the edge of a CNC !! definitely I will use your R&D. thanks

  • @davidquirk8097
    @davidquirk80973 ай бұрын

    I made some wall mounting racks for my screwdrivers, Torx keys and Allen Wrenches last weekend. A 15° bevel on the back edge means that the drivers, etc., are easy to pull out and replace and means that they are all to hand above the bench. I don't know why it's taken me so long to do it, it's a real improvement to the workspace. I've been thinking about either making or buying some boxes to replace the flimsy plastic ones that sit on the shelving unit in the workshop and your design, and it's simplicity, are leading me towards the make option.

  • @TheZitherish
    @TheZitherish3 ай бұрын

    You could draw pictures of the contents to stick on the drawer fronts.

  • @djhscorp
    @djhscorp3 ай бұрын

    Another first class presentation. How I wish I had room for a cms table.😁

  • @pete3897
    @pete38973 ай бұрын

    Ooo you made me laugh when you said "some half height" then cut straight to the table saw shot :) Brilliant idea Tim! Thanks for sharing

  • @bobthevirus
    @bobthevirus3 ай бұрын

    Ive been thinking for a while about making a mini cnc router just for doing fancy joinery. Glad to see someone test this concept for me, this shows me it'd be feasible!

  • @rayrous8229
    @rayrous82293 ай бұрын

    I've been brainstorming how to do this kind of thing with insulation foam board. Your technique looks like it solves my problem.

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch3 ай бұрын

    Love the finger joint solution, interchangeable, nice! 👍💪✌

  • @ron.v
    @ron.v3 ай бұрын

    Your videos are always so interesting.

  • @Del350K4
    @Del350K43 ай бұрын

    I didn't know that Sterling board had a shiny new name.

  • @balateera
    @balateera3 ай бұрын

    ...ah - I first thought that you would have cut your finger joint withyour fav machine... such a relief that you haven't ; )

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessrogesАй бұрын

    If you didn't mention Matthias Wandel then I would have. It is still useful to see other options.

  • @NicoSmets
    @NicoSmets3 ай бұрын

    I love it. That is an absolutely great way of organizing your workshop. I too keep most of my tools in drawers (about 70). You can pack them full, yet your stuff stays organised and accessible.

  • @mungmungie
    @mungmungie3 ай бұрын

    Not having the wonderful tools that you have, nor the space, and definitely not the skills, my solution looks very much like yours, but I had to cobble it together with IKEA components. A lot more expensive and difficult to customize to fit particular spaces. I have no idea what other people are seeing, but it's great that the ads being attached to your videos are getting more appropriate lately. Today, it was Lee Valley Tools, a Canadian company that specializes in hardware, fine woodworking tools and everything that would make it a candy shop. Maybe the algorithms are getting smarter, at least in my corner of the world.

  • @simoncoker3180
    @simoncoker31803 ай бұрын

    Love it! Thinking outside the box.

  • @TheMrWoodsman
    @TheMrWoodsman3 ай бұрын

    You should sell these as a flat pack, I would buy 3 of them.

  • @jamescoxall322

    @jamescoxall322

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes I'd buy some too

  • @recklessroges

    @recklessroges

    Ай бұрын

    Probably better to sell the plans and have them made locally unless shipping is avoided by already being in Ireland.

  • @mischef18
    @mischef183 ай бұрын

    Like what you have done there bro and looks good too. Safe travels. Ken.

  • @bendordoy4815
    @bendordoy48153 ай бұрын

    Those drawers look amazing and are a great way to keep everything organised and easy to find

  • @Shreckinsect_Extra
    @Shreckinsect_Extra3 ай бұрын

    Great video!!

  • @britishtechguru
    @britishtechguru3 ай бұрын

    I built a shelf to hold fishing tackle boxes to hold my electronic components. Works well.

  • @HYUKLDER1
    @HYUKLDER13 ай бұрын

    Super neat job! 😀👍

  • @YIKES615
    @YIKES6153 ай бұрын

    Nice work

  • @drosselvonflugel4886
    @drosselvonflugel48863 ай бұрын

    Tim keeping things simple

  • @williambowman7589
    @williambowman75893 ай бұрын

    Brilliant video

  • @graemezimmer604
    @graemezimmer6043 ай бұрын

    Wonderful!

  • @perr1don
    @perr1don2 ай бұрын

    Love this, top draw!!!!

  • @joethompson11
    @joethompson113 ай бұрын

    Lovely stuff Tim! Such a handy table to own

  • @nicholaskemp2246
    @nicholaskemp22463 ай бұрын

    Love that router mill you've got there. If I may make a suggestion? Put the big drawers at the bottom so it's easier to pull them out, and you won't risk pulling a heavy drawer full of gubbins onto your head.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I tried that way round, but I couldn't see into any of them then - this way I can see into the bottom four : - )

  • @nicholaskemp2246

    @nicholaskemp2246

    3 ай бұрын

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Makes sense! It's still a cracking little project all the same.

  • @TechOne7671
    @TechOne76713 ай бұрын

    Nice one Tim.

  • @Santafefrank
    @Santafefrank3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Tim 😊

  • @johntraynor8777
    @johntraynor87773 ай бұрын

    Nice Tim very nice

  • @fleurdelune5240
    @fleurdelune52403 ай бұрын

    Super cool ❤

  • @ronaldmartin7892
    @ronaldmartin78923 ай бұрын

    Ingenious. 😀

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave75103 ай бұрын

    Nice thanks

  • @thewunder-lusters9644
    @thewunder-lusters96443 ай бұрын

    Genuis! 👍 😊

  • @andy_rb
    @andy_rb3 ай бұрын

    Great result! I opted for a different solution to the same problem. By rotating the router 90° so that it is parallel to the x axis you can mill the ends of boards or planks that are lying flat on the bed. You just need to raise them up a bit, on some blocks. You need to tweak the g-code of course, to swap the x and z axes but there's a couple of ways to do that. Easiest is with a couple of changes to the post processor that converts the toolpath to g-code. This approach means you can cut the end of long boards as you are no longer limited by the distance to the floor.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    That sounds very interesting, Andy. What do you need that extra length for?

  • @cooperised

    @cooperised

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I'd thought about doing something similar (though never got around to it!) and for me the answer to your question would be things like tenons on the side panels of bookcases. Round-cornered tenons to fit into routed mortices in other panels.

  • @BrendaEM
    @BrendaEM3 ай бұрын

    Having moved my CNC, I've been thinking of doing nearly that. The permanent vise is a great idea! Looking at your video, I had an idea: put a strip of wood below, which is perpendicular to the top, so you just need to put the boards in--and slide them against the edgeboard, and you know that they are square. Perhaps you could make a gauge for the height, too. Thanks!

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I just slide the planks up against one of the timbers underneath and they're set square and upright. The only thing to adjust is the height and I use a block on the top for that. Good luck with yours!

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifiori3 ай бұрын

    There is a very easy fixture one can make with modifications to a miter fixture on a table saw. You'd need a dado cutter/ which i think are banned in EU. You will be pleased with the results once you return from the surgery.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I think you're right - no idea why we're not allowed dado blades here though

  • @craigpalmer9196
    @craigpalmer91963 ай бұрын

    outstanding

  • @johnwildwest1
    @johnwildwest13 ай бұрын

    Hang all Ur tools up on the wall Tim french cleats 😉 class project we will all want to see 🤤

  • @Oli_Guy
    @Oli_Guy3 ай бұрын

    nice one!

  • @DianeD862
    @DianeD8623 ай бұрын

    My husband is going to enjoy watching you Tim he looks for ideas from you he loves anything like this.Your a genius at what you do .Hope Sandra is doing well we’ve had nothing but rain ☔️ just needs to have some sunshine now till next time.🌈🌈🌈🌈💟💟💟💟🍀🍀🍀🍀🐥🐥🐥🐥🌈🌈🌈

  • @Austriantrainguy
    @Austriantrainguy3 ай бұрын

    Oh jes, that´s what I had to do by hand in engineering school. Was a real pain in the butt.

  • @meirionevans5137
    @meirionevans51373 ай бұрын

    I find your adaptions inspiring. Now make your own glue?

  • @Falney
    @Falney3 ай бұрын

    It may be a good idea to put the double height ones lower down in future for the sake of a lower centre of gravity in case it somehow detaches from the wall

  • @GoneBattyBats
    @GoneBattyBats3 ай бұрын

    Nice solution, would love to see some with nice wood, maybe for you wife in the kitchen?

  • @WobblycogsUk
    @WobblycogsUk3 ай бұрын

    I'm most surprised you don't call that stuff OSB, I thought everyone did. Sanded and (heavily) varnished I think it looks good although I know I'm in the minority there. I built the kids a huge play table out of a sheet of it a few years ago.

  • @Dengezik100
    @Dengezik1003 ай бұрын

    Amazing example of "engineery thinking."

  • @pauljones2633
    @pauljones26333 ай бұрын

    You could sell those as a kit of parts!

  • @wideyxyz2271
    @wideyxyz22713 ай бұрын

    ❤💥

  • @johnfreiler6017
    @johnfreiler60173 ай бұрын

    The simple nailed bottoms into the edges don't look like they're going to stay tight for long: you're really depending on the glue to keep the bottoms on. Fine for light duty stuff but those double height drawers or anything heavy, I think you're going to see quite a few failures of the drawer bottoms. Lots of drawers use a slot in the sides and the bottom goes into that, but maybe you didn't want to do that much work for a utility drawer.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    Of course the most important thing is how they're supported - side support or base support. There's no weight on the sides of these because the whole base sits of a floor..

  • @johnfreiler6017

    @johnfreiler6017

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 And I suppose you won't carry it anywhere by the sides as you haven't' put hand holes there. Good points. I would tend to pull each drawer out and move it where I needed it and then use it like a milk crate and carry-all box and then it's worry about the bottom: so long as you're not doing that or supporting the bottom as you go, it should be good to go. Thanks!

  • @eckosters
    @eckosters3 ай бұрын

    I learned a lot of new words. Most of which I’ll have forgotten tomorrow….. But you mention that MDF would have been very dusty, but this particle board seems extremely dusty as well! And that machine is supposed to vacuum it all up but it doesn’t look like it does that?

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    You're right - it could do a better job if I change the position, but I'm way too busy to do that : - )

  • @pieter5132
    @pieter51323 ай бұрын

    How do you join finger cuts?

  • @Sherri-Parks
    @Sherri-Parks3 ай бұрын

    I tried cutting finger joints on a CNC router once, but I ended up with a box full of fingers! Maybe I'll leave it to the experts at Xtreme Plasma instead 🤖🔪

  • @PiercesPerfectPieces
    @PiercesPerfectPieces3 күн бұрын

    This the the exact problem I’m having when trying to machine these "finger joints/box joints" to make a box, but I’m not going to be able to modify my machine table like this! Basically I have to be able to take the radius out & want to do this without having to sand/file them down forever!! Any other suggestions for anyone??

  • @MichaelMantion
    @MichaelMantion3 ай бұрын

    If you added epoxy the algo would have rewarded you. Epoxy is still hot.

  • @sinisterhipp0
    @sinisterhipp03 ай бұрын

    You know your 1 hot wax dipper away from building and selling beehives.

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    Too wet for bees here these days : - (

  • @lawrencejneuser8801
    @lawrencejneuser88012 ай бұрын

    use a table saw

  • @collie147
    @collie1473 ай бұрын

    more than one way to skin a cat as they say. Interesting what of doing it.

  • @bcubed72
    @bcubed723 ай бұрын

    Couldn't he have just used a dado blade on the table saw?

  • @davidanstice
    @davidanstice3 ай бұрын

    Why not make both pieces rounded, then they’ll fit together

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    I can see how you could easily round one - but not the correct face of the other - can you send photos?

  • @davidanstice

    @davidanstice

    3 ай бұрын

    I had a moment of dimwhittedness, I was thinking of them laying flat in the same plane. I wonder what the joint would look like if you rounded both and left the rounded nubs sticking out. Maybe sand those off? Then you’d have gaps in the corner, and the joint wouldn’t be as strong. Your way is brilliant!

  • @IloveMK
    @IloveMK3 ай бұрын

    All over the world they are called "Dovetail Joints" So why do you call them "Finger Joints" (or knuckles lol)

  • @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    @wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

    3 ай бұрын

    Dovetail joints are quite different - look them up?

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