Man I am realllllly deep in the KZread rabbit hole tonight.. I started off looking at wood glue and here I am..😁

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Keith, happens to the best of us!

@tennetuckypreparedness1713

4 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 I am about to start publishing videos. My first series will be birth of a cartridge....from building the brick rocket stove to melt the lead to firing them. I'll be using a Lee conical mold since that's what I have. Is it ok to put a link to Eras Gone in my videos?

I appreciate the way you preserve history by making those. The paper cartridge packs were near extinct. I think for those looking to make the most of their black powder fire arms, this is the way to go.

Thank you for the extra length of this video. I enjoyed every second.

.44 J&D molds ordered. Thank you for offering these reproductions. I look forward to trying them out.

Thank you for a great video! The little details of history really amaze me.

Thanks for another great video. Great products.

Excellent video sir. I have been shooting black powder revolvers for many years and have never used the paper cartridges. I have ordered a mold from you for the Johnston and Dow .44. I may even do up a couple of bundles with the labels just for conversation pieces. As always a very informative video. Thank you

Great job Mark. Thanks

Great info. I hate dealing with a flask and measure at the range. This seems like the way to go and it is more period correct.

A most informative and enjoyable video, as always. With my glue sticks, so they don't roll away, especially on unlevel surfaces, I use a short bowl to hang on to the stick for me. On level surfaces, I invert the glue stick cap open end up and I place my stick, loosely, back into the cap during my work session to keep the glue from drying out & fresh when I am not applying its contents. Again, many thanks for the video, well-done, sir.

Ridiculously neat. Now, we need you to demo the little pasteboard WWII German 16 round 9mm packets which are stick shaped! I would love to recreate these for my hunting trips.

How have I missed this guy? Well u got another sub great videos I’m sure to check them all out. Happy holidays

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Mark, thanks for the kind words

Xmas presents I was already on that before you said something,lol. I liked it, very neat history.

Great video! I should have known it’d be an easy solution for these, but I was over thinking it as usual! I wanted a fun way to carry reloads for my revolvers, and this is gong to be perfect! Thank you!

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken, Glad it was of help to you.

I use a self centering doweling jig on my boxes I have made. Just had to make sure my drill bit was marked so I didn't blow thru the bottom. I also added a thin piece of card stock on top of the box to cover the cartridges. Once the sides are glued I use clear shellac to "water proof" it. Here is also an idea for printing on the brown paper (after jamming up my printer): Design the label with cutting marks, paste the end to a piece of thin card stock outside the cutting mark (let it dry) then run it thru your printer. Make sure your printer is set to the heavier paper.

Great video, thanks for all your work.

I had a few custom rubber stamps made for the various cartridges I make a use; I had a couple made that were "generic," so I could label my "experimental" cartridges. Plus, I found that oiling the paper produces a good color and adds some water-resistance to the whole package.

@leedaily2766

2 жыл бұрын

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I don't have a problem with how you wrapped those. Somebody should apologise for how you wrap. And feel blessed you wrapped them. Thank you for the info on packaging.

Good video Mark, thanks!

How about having a rubber stamp made of the label. Then you can just stamp each pack after wrapping.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

That might work, if the stamp does not cost too much to have made. But, most of the originals had printed labels.

Awesome video!

Thanks for great video!

Nice! Thank you, Sir.

To make my cartridge bundles I cheat. What I do is cut a block of wood the size of the needed bundle, but twice as long. I then wrap and glue the paper around this former, but leave the paper open on the long side. Once the glue has set, I withdraw the paper from around the former. This makes a minature paper bag, in which I put the cartridges in. I then fold over the excess paper and tie it up.

Great video, thank you

I am quite interested in how you made your labels. I want to make some for my own use and to pay a bit of homage to the Confederate powder works in Augusta,Ga.. Their wrappers were quite simple for the rifle cartridges, but none seem to have survived for belt revolvers, so I was goning to make my own. Thanks for any help that you can send my way,

I would like to see how to use different Paper Cartridge in them old guns. You showed us how to make them?

I've got your Johnston & Dow bullet mold. What size of trapezoidal paper would be used for musket style cartridges? What paper do you use, thickness etc?

Were the papers ever waxed to keep the powder dry. .ah you answered that

Wonder if there is a mint tin that can hold 6 cartridges.

Mark, thanks for the great information! BTW, your links to the Sage Contract and Johnson & Dow labels both lead to the same photo. Unfortunately, the link for the J&D labels leads to the Sage Contract labels! Just wanted you to know, as I have your J&D mold, and although I haven't had a chance to use it yet, I intend to make some of these blocks and would love to be able to label them as well!

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'll see if I can fix that problem.

What about making a wood block to print the label on the paper?

A 12mm or 15/32” Forster bit is readily available.

Could you maybe make a video on making bundles for the 1851 navy with cartridges using the Colt's Cartridge Works .36 bullet?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

That is on my video "to do" list. I've not made any of the blocks yet. Keep in mind it the process would be essentially the same as for .44 except scaled down by about 20% :)

Where do I find a print showing the .54 bullet like the .45 that you have shown Thank you

Also could you maybe do a video on metallic foil, revolver cartridges?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Chip, I have not experimented with foil revolver cartridges. That would be a worthy subject for a video. Colt used true tin foil for his early cartridges which is difficult to find these days. I don't know if aluminum foil would react the same way as tin under heat and pressure.

May I suggest you have made a rubber ink stamp instead of printing labels.

@MadBeausuff

Жыл бұрын

CapandBall has these for sale

@omnivore2220

Жыл бұрын

Yes; ink jet ink is extremely sensitive to moisture, producing bizarre colored spots in normal handling in the field. Other ink types are not so bad.

@deletdis6173

Жыл бұрын

@@MadBeausuff I love CapandBall

Could you do a video on non combustible cartridge for the 1851 Navy? I’ve made up some for my navy, but I was wondering if they existed back then, since the Navy is still an early colt revolver

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Chip, or should I call you Cheddar? :) Check out my video on making Early Colt Walker cartridges. That same style round ball cartridge was also made in .36 for the Model 1851 Navy.

@cheddarchip1013

4 жыл бұрын

Sir it’s fine either way, but thanks for awnsering my question, I was mainly asking because all I see with paper cartridges are combustible ones, except for the Walker

@cheddarchip1013

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Hubbs is there anywhere to find the dimensions / specifications of these early .36 cal cartridges? I checked the 1862 ordinance manual but could only find specs for 145 grain conicals.

what’s the brand that sells 10 per pack ?

How about a custom wooden cartridge box that has seven holes bored into it, six for cartridges and the seventh one for the percussion caps? No, it would not be authentic, but it would be convenient at the range. D'oh!!! Just saw the end of the video. Never mind....................but.

.475 inch = 12mm What about the caps?

Mark, is there a source for nitrated paper to make there cartridges?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

The only pre-nitrates source that I know of is magician's flash paper. Most folks either nitrate it themselves or just use a self consuming paper such as cigarette paper or curling paper.

@ThePrader

4 жыл бұрын

You can make combustible cartridge paper. Most "stump killer" products are 99% potassium nitrate. Make a liquid solution of "stump killer" powder mixed with water in a plastic tub, ( tupperware etc). Soak the paper, either cigarette paper, or plan coffee filters ,in the solution. Hang the paper to dry. Cut to size. You have combustible paper for BP cartridges.

@Ambaryerno

3 жыл бұрын

Buffalo Arms sells sheets of nitrated paper. Unfortunately they're on back order right now and they can't tell me when they'll have more in stock.

@Merlinemryys

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrader Only Spetracide brand is KNO3-other brands are some other oxidizer.

I got a .44 cal colt

The labels say "with percussion caps"... how were the percussion caps packaged in the bundle? I doubt they were simply left rolling around inside, unless they were haha

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

3 жыл бұрын

Listen again at about 6:25 minutes in.

@ILikeToLaughAtYou

3 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 Whoops. You are entirely correct. Posted this comment and heard that in the video, but forgot to remove my comment haha. Many apologies! Love your work, brother! Thank you for being such a great provider and pillar of the Black Powder community, historical reenacting and preservation, and firearms at large!

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

3 жыл бұрын

@@ILikeToLaughAtYou Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.

What type of paper was used for the label and wrapping?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

Gary, as I mentioned in the video, this is simple lightweight masking paper. I bought a roll of it at Home Depot. I cut it to a standard letter size so I could run it through my printer.

@garyanderson2720

6 жыл бұрын

I missed that part. When I went back, I found that the video had started at the halfway point.

A 15/32" bit is 0.4687" and they come in Forster type.

@leha_piteskiy

Жыл бұрын

Метрическое сверло 12мм может подойти

How did they keep them dry? One heavy rain or high river to cross and you’re screwed

@calvingreene90

Жыл бұрын

The cartridge box (bag) is water resistant. And lift it over your head if necessary to keep it out of the water.

@larrys-qr6zr

Жыл бұрын

Shellac

@DLB1858

2 ай бұрын

Zip lock baggies, qt size preferably

Have you ever considered selling the Sage contract style of block?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

That is something I have no considered. After I retire this year, I may consider making a few for sale.

@calebwarren8168

5 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 If you ever decide that's something you'd like to do, I'd be interested in purchasing several.

@Ambaryerno

3 жыл бұрын

@@calebwarren8168 As would I. All of the other pre-drilled packet blocks I've seen out there have much thicker walls, resulting in a much larger block which doesn't fit into the cartridge pouch very well.

Can you share dimensions for the wooden block that holds the 6 rounds?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan, links to the schematics and labels are in the video description. Here is the one you need img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/threepdr/Cartridge%20Block.jpg

great work !!! would like to share some label reproduction I have made

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks sir, you can reach through the email address provided on my website at: erasgonebullets.webstarts.com

@LarryTalbot_1313

4 жыл бұрын

Send me a link, I'd love to see them too!!!

Have you tried a 12mm Forstner bit (0.44245 in.)?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Henry, the largest bullet diameter is .460 so the 12mm would be a bit too small.

Is there anyone that sells predrilled blocks of this size? I've seen a few kits out there with the blocks, but they have much thicker walls between each hole, and as a result the blocks are too large to fit my cartridge pouch properly.

@cetate93

3 жыл бұрын

You could attempt to make your own, Harbor Freight sells a relatively inexpensive drill press and sets of wood drilling bits. I would use a thicker block and then shave it down after drilling the holes.

@ValcoBayrunner

3 жыл бұрын

Cap and ball does on his ebay site, kind of pricey, but beats buying a bunch of tools to never use again.

@Ambaryerno

3 жыл бұрын

@@ValcoBayrunner The ones from Cap And Ball (the ones with the hinged lids) are much too large. They're too long to properly fit the cartridge pouch (the flap won't close).

@oldeays5085

2 жыл бұрын

@@ValcoBayrunner What man wouldn't use the tools again? Who don't need an accuse to buy more tools.

@oldeays5085

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ambaryerno 1"1/2 ×3" is what is accurate for the ones made at the beginning of the war. And that size you can fit three packs in a cartridge ammo belt pouch. And that is how many they are supposed to fit.

will a stamp company make that label for you?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure any stamp company could make one. It might cost $30-$40. I'd have to need to do a lot of stamping to make that worthwhile

So sorry to be such a pest, but there is no description for the video on my PC, so may I be so bold as to ask you for the links to the labels?

@markhubbs1964

6 жыл бұрын

Gary, if you hit the "show more" below the video box and the window will expand to see any notes associated with the video. Here are the links for you: How to make Colt Dragoon Cartridges Video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejTLB ... Original Sage Cartridge Block Drawing img.photobucket.com/albums/v32 ... Schematic for reproduction Sage cartridge block img.photobucket.com/albums/v32 .. Watervliet Arsenal Labels img.photobucket.com/albums/v32 ... Sage Contract Labels img.photobucket.com/albums/v32 ... Johnston & Dow Labels img.photobucket.com/albums/v32...

Anyone make the labels for sale.

@ValcoBayrunner

3 жыл бұрын

His links in video has printable documents. Buy some brown paper and take to kinkos if you dont have a home printer.

...I'm on the market for a Confederate glue stick... y'all ...

@jamesgrumpylucier2705

3 жыл бұрын

Normal school glue stick. It's a starch glue which is time period product.

Mark, I don't know if you will read this or not, but I tried to view the picture links in the comments and all of them on Photobucket are blurred out. I tried loading them from Firefox and Chrome just to be sure and I got the same thing. I think they may have expired or something, or maybe they switched to a pay to view system (which would stink!) Please fix this so I can see them...and quite possibly many other people who wanted to see them!!!

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Larry, thanks for the heads up. I seems that photo bucket is now requiring either me or you to have some special access to see the photos. I'll try to find another photo hosting website to upload these too. Bear with me. I might take a few days.

@djay6651

4 жыл бұрын

Photobucket went to a pay to link model a couple of years ago.

@LarryTalbot_1313

4 жыл бұрын

@ DavidSixSixFive Wouldn't that just figure? We can't even have a bit of fun with history any more without being soaked for it. Let Photobucket keep their service. When they realize the average man can't afford any more bills and they 3 rich people they have subscribed can't pay their bills and they start to go belly up, it will be their own fault!!! Time for Mark to move his photos to a different service!

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

@@LarryTalbot_1313 Do you know of any free photo hosting sites besides Photobucket. I'm looking for a new one.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Larry, I've moved the photos to Shutterfly. See if you can open and down load the photos now.

I think the best blocks would be 3D printed.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

Жыл бұрын

Most functional, for sure. Least authentic, however :)