Making #11 Percussion Caps, Part 2
In part 2 of this series, I take the #11 caps that I punched out of a Pepsi can, and load them using Prime All. This is a corrosive primer compound, however, black powder is also corrosive so it's not a big deal to me. Eventually I will reload standard primers with this stuff too, but that's for another video. Long story short, they work just fine in my Uberti 1851 Colt Navy with SlixShot nipples.
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For what its worth, after I have mixed all the powders together I drop about 25 drops of acetone and 5 drops of new-skin onto the powder and mix it up into a slurry. Then with an eye dropper, I drop one drop of slurry into each cap. With a single batch of powder, I make about 15 caps. After dropping a drop into the 15 caps, if i have any slurry left over I repeat the process into the same caps until all of the slurry is used up. The new-skin is a binder so the powder doesn't drop out of the caps. I can put all of my finished caps into a small candy tin and shake it vigorously and the powder does not fall out. I set my newly made caps outside in the hot Arizona sun to dry for about an hour or two and they are ready for use.
@Dr.JustIsWrong
Жыл бұрын
Noice! What's new-skin?
@smartacus88
10 ай бұрын
@@Dr.JustIsWrongLiquid bandaid solution. Sold in the same aisle as bandaids, Neosporin, rubbing alcohol etc in big box stores.
@Dr.JustIsWrong
10 ай бұрын
So, basically cyanoacrylate _("super glue"),_ that still allows it to detonate? Guess I'll try it 😀
@miraxus6264
7 ай бұрын
Thats freaking awesome 👌..ik you left this comment a year ago...but still 👏
@TwoStageTrigger
6 ай бұрын
@@Dr.JustIsWrong like super glue, but not as strong or fast setting. Superglue might be too hard.
The Great Percussion Cap Shortage continues. Just ordered a no. 10 stamper and Prime-All. Thanks for the video, and thanks to other commenters for advice on sealant.
I have some very small funnels (used for pouring natural medicinal mixtures into capsules), which works perfectly for filling the caps with priming mix. Then just a drop of acetone, tamp, and when dry, a tiny drop of liquid hair mousse (which is just hair spray) to seal them. Works like a charm!
When filling my caps I made a small cone of paper to pour into the caps with, not an easy solution and it did get smushed and start to feed poorly so I had to make another one but it worked. As for once it was all dried and set I ripped some bits of tissue to stuff in the caps with a matchstick to keep the powder in place, doesn't seem to mess with the ignition at all and keeps the powder from falling out. Just enough to cover it and sit in the cap, don't want to fill it up so much that you can't get it on the nipple.
If you have a piece of aluminum about the same thickness as the caps you can drill a hole just over cap diameter, drop a cap into the hole, dump your load onto the aluminum plate and sweep it into the cap with a small brush. Caps don’t flip over or jump around the bench and you don’t need to fight with aiming the scoop over the cap and hope to get the contents in. Your reload time will triple.
I’m into cowboy mounted shooting where you ride a horse and shoot balloons at close range with blanks. Normally I use colt single actions with blank shells but the supply’s to reload those shells have been scarce. I’m using my 1858 cap and ball revolvers now and I make the caps out of aluminum cans but I use 2 roll caps and a pinch of fine powder instead.
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that works too
I'm jealous of your 1851s wood grips. I have the composite grips, it saved me like $20, should've just spent the $20 in all honesty.
Thanks for posting, I bought this and tried it and it worked great, The second time i tried there improved Prime-all 2.0 and it didn't work at all, guess I will go back to the original Prime-all. Tried calling and emailing sharp shooter several times over issue, They wont return my call
They need to add a one third measure with this kit
I cut a straw to a point to use as a scoop to fill the caps. Much easier. Trying to pour from the scoop into the cap is too hard, and I waste too much. I also hold the caps with a pair of tweezers. My fingers are too big to fumble with them.
@Wayne72LEVRAI
Жыл бұрын
Pour the powder on a paper sheet folded in the center, this is the easiest way to fill up the caps.
@poncholefty471
Жыл бұрын
@@Wayne72LEVRAI i tried that at first, but the pointed straw works best for me. It’s like a super tiny little shovel. A lot faster, less tapping, fiddling, and overfilling. Easier to get a consistent fill when doing hundreds of caps at one time. Static could potentially be an issue, but I haven’t blown my fingers off yet.
@user-ex5tw5bp1y
Жыл бұрын
May I know the ingredients used?
@poncholefty471
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ex5tw5bp1y I believe it is finely ground charcoal. finely ground potassium perchlorate. finely ground sulfur, and some kind of binder that turns the whole thing solid when acetone is introduced. I’m not 100% positive, but this is my best educated guess. Please don’t blow your hand off. (Make it at your own risk)
@user-ex5tw5bp1y
Жыл бұрын
@@poncholefty471 Thank you very much..Are you interested in hunting with bow and arrow and also with old weapons??
As an update to my attempts with this kit, if you are using pyrodex at least, you have to really put quite a bit of the priming powder into the caps, and, they really lose power with age so, either make as much as you want right before going out, or your caps lose their power overtime. At least that is what I found. Real Black powder would probably be easier to work with but I have not tried it in my revolvers, just something I picked up from shooting a flintlock. Black powder ignites way easier
Will this process work for mgc cap guns if the caps are pre made and then using the following process and finger nail polish to harden the mixture. Because the mgc caps are very expensive even if they can be found.
That's Awesome!
I bought the cap maker and the prime all mix. Took a month to get it. One thing.....well more than one thing, I found that sometimes the cap would split or have a small Crack in it after I punched it out. These are worthless and should be discarded before you apply your compound. I didn't do this on my first attempt and found only 2 of five caps would ignite. Also the compound itself would easily fall out of the homemade cap if the cap were dropped! There is a learning curve to this process. There must be someway to get the compound to stay in the cap. Some of the caps would ignite the charge in the cylinder and some of them would pop but wouldn't ignite the charge and some of them wouldn't pop at all! I made up about 75 caps from the cap maker but after my first attempt and failure of detonation, I went through those caps and discarded the cracked ones. Some of the caps form unevenly. One side higher than the other. I use slixshot nipples also. I found that sometimes the cap is very difficult to put it on the nipples. I also was a little light in pressing the mixture into the cap. I was a little concerned that the pressure might set the cap off since I am using acetone and it evaporates very quickly! 5 minutes and the compound appears very dry! This is another thing I feel needs to be addressed. Anyway, I have plenty of compound and no shortage of aluminum cans and nothing but time. I'm sure I'll figure it out and once I get a good success rate, I'll post a video and let others know how. Great video! Thanks!
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
A couple things that I'm tweaking (or will since I just moved and don't have my reloading bench set back up yet) is that I purchased 0.1mm x 200mm x 1000mm H62 Brass Metal Thin Sheet Foil Plate Roll from Amazon to use in place of aluminum. As far as the compound sticking inside once dried, another commenter pointed out that he mixes shellac in with denatured alcohol to act as a binder. I will try that as well. I will update with a new video if I have success with my tweaks. Good luck with yours, and thanks for the comment!
@dpensfan511
3 жыл бұрын
@@RooftopKY Try the hair spray with the pump bottle. It has been working well for me and I haven't noticed any drawbacks yet.
@eagleviewhd
Жыл бұрын
I used aluminum trays that my wife had saved. I made about fifty caps and all but about five came out really nice. When forming the caps, make sure you keep strip of aluminum pressed into punch body, and gently tap around the top of the punch with a light hammer until it cuts out the piece of aluminum. Do not try to make the cap with just one hard hit!
My first batch I used acetone but it never hardened. The mix ended up mostly in the container. I noticed you used alcohol, does it work better? Or do I just be more careful with the primers I make? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks Man.
I used the same system that you're using the all primer and the cats from their dies I find it works better if you soak the powder after you put in the caps when I use just one drop and it dried the powder would fall out
It’s a lot easier if you just mix all the powders and alcohol together in a dropper bottle or an essential oil type bottle with a dropper in it and use that to dispense the solution into the caps and just let it dry that way
Hi... would it have been better to use copper strips, instead of aluminum?
FYI food for thought not sure how worried/paranoid/ or cautious? I should be as not sure what everything is at this point, but I will not use a Plastic Insulator for my mixing, most likely SS for electrostatic discharge as I am familiar with this in haz locations with chemicals and electronics, plastic in the wrong conditions can be problematic? I use this for all my bench reloading with a wood bench, parts of my bench are grounded metal clad or topped and some wood tools also Looks like decent ignition energy! My modern #10 caps are just not getting it done reliably lately.
Nice to know this stuff works. Could you mix the blended powder with acetone and then inject that into the cups? I would think it would be easier. Being lazy by nature, I tend to look for whatever short cut I can find.
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
Possibly. This was my first crack at it. I'll try different techniques to find one that's the most efficient.
@abcdeabcde9992
2 жыл бұрын
@@RooftopKY Let Me Know What Work's Best For You...I Am Very Interested In What You Find Out As The Best Way While At The Same Saving Time In A Good Process. Thank's Matthew I Will Await Your Response.
I have to hold each cap in tweesers and scoop the compound out of the mixing container. Then hold each down with tha back of a plastic knife to renve the tweesers from it.
Suggestion: hole the punched caps with a small board that has shallows hold drilled in it. Then use a small brass (won't spark) spoon, they make tiny ones, to apply the powder. Or a pointed plastic spatula. Or perhaps a better idea...!
I believe aluminum cans have a plastic coating inside. I wonder if they wouldn't burn cleaner if you stamped them inside out? 🤔
9:47 LOL I thought you were going to point out at the gas can
Anyone know if they'll feed in an in line capper?
Easy and you can get them... I just ordered my kit.....
I put magic marker on the l and s then wipe the rest of with rubbing alcohol so the letter stay black much easyer to see 👍
A folded card works good to fill your caps.
This stuff works works best with nickle plated primers with brass primers it works if you only hit the dimple no mor then one time 2 makes it hard and it gives the fireing pin light strikes
@freedom-vc9wi
2 жыл бұрын
I keep my mixed prime all in a glass jar for safe keeping
@freedom-vc9wi
2 жыл бұрын
Another thing i use a punch on my primers i compress the dry powder down by hand then i add the anvil then a very small amount of rubbing alcohol let them dry you can use the same on precusion caps skip the rest but use the punch to compress the prime all wear eye pro and latex gloves
Use about an ounce of acetone with 4 drops of clear fingernail polish to bind and lock the compound into the cap. You'll be happier with the results.
@bob10099
3 жыл бұрын
Hair spray works much better as a powder sealers after the acetone. The nailpolish can have ignition issues.
@topmenace
3 жыл бұрын
@@bob10099 opinions, belly buttons and ford mustangs....the nail polish works fantastic for me as described. I have a container full of about 200 homemade primers. No compound is breaking loose while walking with container in my pocket and I am having no failures to fire.
Good intentions, how long to prime 100. Must be a better way.
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
It takes a while for sure. However, if it's this or nothing... I'll use these.
Where can i buy it?
May I know the ingredients used?
9:47 bro you scared me for a moment man
Its current year. Why isnt electric ignition still not a commercially available option for blackpowder firearms? I have 2F powder, I have lead. In a perfect world that should be all I need to go shooting.
@reubenjohnson3865
Жыл бұрын
Go for it! Let us know.
@dustinh4175
Жыл бұрын
Make a shot gun with a spark plug then
So it's basically black powder with ground glass?
@TheIntermont
Жыл бұрын
No, the white stuff is chlorate and the black stuff is antimony sulfide. Don’t mix a lot at once as it’s a very powerful & sensitive primary explosive.
@Dr.JustIsWrong
Жыл бұрын
@@TheIntermont Okay, thx!
Is this a 209 size?🤔
@overlyobsolete2797
2 жыл бұрын
These are percussion caps. Not primers.
I think you may have missed the step where it says packet down with a wouldn't stick..
Where did you get the syringe?
@RooftopKY
2 жыл бұрын
Any medical or veterinary supply store should have them.
Active and rate please
They are that..dirty little but beats $13 on a 100 caps $23 on 1500 I gotta work for and I gotta clean it up afterwards anyway far as I know winwin
I don’t blame anybody for trying to beat the system and what I’m about to write is not intended to put down anyone. the ammo that I crank out is for self-defense and I consider my range ammo as self-defense ammo. as much as I hated to do it God forgive me I shelled out $230 for a break of large pistol primers. Yeah, I felt dizzy and nauseous after I did it! but I can’t mess around and I’m still ahead of the game. but keep going guys you might just develop something that’s simple and near perfect! And to all of you out there taking advantage of this crisis......there is a God, but if you want to call him karma go right ahead but one thing is for sure it’s going to be a real bitch!
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
I'm using these specifically for my black powder cap and ball revolvers. I can see the possibility of reloading primers for center fire modern cartridges, but I'm pretty set on primers for the time being.
This is so ridiculous. It’s 2024, not 1854. How in the world can we have a shortage of black powder percussion caps?? 🤦🏼♂️
Approximately 1 primer per minute, 60 primers per hour, 10 cents per primer at current market price yields you an equivalent value for your time at $6 per hour. Not great. Buy factory primers and stack them deep.
These are unreliable. Getting an equal amount in each cap is impossible. The aluminum burns. Have ordered brass foil. How do I get an even amount in each cap? Why can't we buy these caps?
@RooftopKY
3 жыл бұрын
Brass foil sounds like it might be a better way to make them. As far as an even amount of fill, maybe wet the compound with acetone and use a syringe? I don't know, but I intend to play around with it. As far as why we can't just buy them? Can't get primers either. The manufacturers will start making primers before they make caps. I'm afraid it's going to be a while before we see them on the shelves again.
@LarryaproudU.S.citizen
3 жыл бұрын
@@RooftopKY This is frustrating, I had to order the brass from China thru Amazon, and it has taken a month for it to be shipped. I have been working at learning to manufacture everything I need and now working on making my own lawn fertilizer, ammonia nitrate the Lord's lawn food.
@loboheeler
3 жыл бұрын
Metal foil should not be too hard to get. Aluminum may not be the best material, just easy to find. Copper should form well, or brass if not too hard. A good craft store might have metal foil. www.quickshipmetals.com/foils/crafting-scrapbooking-foil-coil.html
@bigislander72
3 жыл бұрын
I too was frustrated with measuring the powder as directed...but I developed a system. First I fashioned a tiny powder paddle/spoon with the end of a coffee stir straw or wd40 extension straw and a lighter. Then I used the inside cap of a Gatorade bottle and filled it up so it's mostly covered in caps sitting next to each other. Then I pretty much eyeballed the amount of powder in each cap, halfway to even full almost. After dripping the acetone the level drops a bit so didn't seem to matter. Whatever powder missed the caps and falls into the Gatorade cap can just be scraped up and reused, even if the acetone got it wet and it dried to crust. Seemed to hold in their pretty good, but I'm gonna try the hairspray trick.
@tomcurran1538
2 жыл бұрын
Soros bought them all up! Lol