Magic in 1999 Was Truly Something Else | Mono Black Control vs Red Artifact Wildfire
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We invited special guest Frank Karsten back to play the 1999 World Championship decks and show us what the game was like back then! We explore mana burn, graveyard order, and this brand new thing called The Stack (That's where your damage goes)
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Frank is a very chill, knowledgeable, dude; keep inviting him!
@AgAiNsT87
11 ай бұрын
word!
@Andreas_Buhl
11 ай бұрын
Ye more Frank please
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
We filmed a whole series of these with Frank. 5 in total. And if they do well we plan to invite him back for more :)
@BIGPILGRIM420
11 ай бұрын
+1 for frank fuckin Karsten. thanks so much for making content with him.
@baloothedrummer
11 ай бұрын
He is absolutley right
It's insane how much fast mana existed and was legal back then. Nowadays you'd probably just do everything find a way to end the game either that turn or the next turn. But back then "everything" is mostly "play a big dude" or "play a big spell" and pass. Truly just a different era
@gametechchris
11 ай бұрын
Tempest/Urza block Type 2 (Standard) was SO FAST. Mercadian Masques really slammed on the brakes after all the combo nonsense took over.
@BobertJoe
11 ай бұрын
I mean, legacy Stompy decks are still a thing (and a powerful one at that). Slamming Sheoldred the Apocalypse or an Initiative card on turn 1 often wins games
@pinobluevogel6458
11 ай бұрын
The powerful effects and fast mana broke the format on several occasions, but it also resulted in some of the most original and interesting gameplay at the same time. When they slammed on the brakes in Mercadian Masques and the Urza block stuff rotated out, standard was changed, with Mercenaries and Rebels taking over as more creature based decks. I started playing more competatively at the tail end of this, during Invasion block, when drafting started to be a thing. We had these grinding 2-for-1 style effects in standard, I hope we get to see some of this in future videos.
@user-od3yc8mr6w
11 ай бұрын
To be fair the 6-drops back then were also less scary than today's 1 and 2 drops .. 😂
@gametechchris
11 ай бұрын
@@user-od3yc8mr6w yoooo so many damn ETBs
This first game was wild. "I will follow up my turn 1 5/5 with an 2 mana 1/1." Magic back than was Something else.
Love that the graphics displaying the hands are using the old card frame. Immediately aesthetically pleasing. Shoutout to whoever did that.
Uncle Frank and his 2 nephews sitting down for some story time magic.
Oh boy its a series with Frank Karsten, this is awesome.
We used to buy all these World Champ decks back in middle school and pit them against each other. Everybody always wanted to play with the Wildfire artifact deck. I wish WotC would bring these precons back. They were great for kids with no money that still wanted a taste of true power.
@Falleris
11 ай бұрын
They did that with 30th Anniversary boosters
@Chocolate83Bunny
11 ай бұрын
@@Fallerisyou mean the $1,500 proxies? Yeah nobody bought those
@jacksonlittle5993
11 ай бұрын
@@Falleris No.
@xolotltolox7626
11 ай бұрын
Would be even better if they were black border reprints
@captianbacon
11 ай бұрын
It's what they should do instead of challenger decks. Just full decks for 35$ on lgs shelfs for everyone to walk in and buy they want to revitalize standard that's how you do it.
Even though Frank lost this match, I am struck by how extremely tight his play is. He is so good!
@alejandrorivas4585
11 ай бұрын
Good fundamentals man
@lomenado
11 ай бұрын
@@alwaysplaythegame But he did do that. 3 combat damage + 1 sack damage + 1 more sack damage after Corpse Dance was the only way that single Ticking Gnomes could've gotten rid of the 5/5 Minion token Jamin made.
@names_are.uselessyt7908
10 ай бұрын
somebody tell this simp how big of a blunder frank made playing the 3rd land w/ a negator on field & his opp having mana to cast wildfire at any time.
@bricknolty5478
8 ай бұрын
@@names_are.uselessyt7908 🤡🤡 it was lethal if Jamin had drawn anything else lol
You guys have really hit gold with this series, informative for younger players but nostalgic for us elderly.
@mfmageiwatch
10 ай бұрын
also hit gold from that viewer who gave them like 300-500 dollars worth of decks. Many of those championship decks have cards worth $10-60 EVEN in gold border.
@L1NC5
9 ай бұрын
DC
Card Market doing the Lord's work by doing these historical videos and gameplay, further cementing their status as best MTG channel on KZread.
I absolutely love this - and it is so fun seeing how much Frank clearly loves reminiscing about the old days of Magic. This was a fun match - especially with the opening turn 1's, haha!
I want more of the World Champ decks I recall my friend playing with some and they were nuts. Nostalgia like classic WoW, we’ll never get to experience the infancy of a game the way we used to.
@pinobluevogel6458
11 ай бұрын
I've always thought these goldbordered decks were a bit werid. Why wouldn't you just buy the original version and rebuild the deck that way? Now though, seeing them in this video, it makes total sense and they are relics of a time that can be treasured. I hope Wizards of the Coasts will re-release them as an (affordable) boxed series so you can collect them to play at home with a friend.
@douglasmagowan2709
11 ай бұрын
@@pinobluevogel6458 It could take months of collecting and many trips to the card store and a lot of money to build these decks from "the bottom up." Furthermore, these decks came out just as standard was rotating, and no one wants to invest in the cards that are about to rotate out.
@putrefactive1216
10 ай бұрын
WOTC and 'Affordable' Don't fit together my dude@@pinobluevogel6458
@zirilan3398
9 ай бұрын
@@pinobluevogel6458 You also gotta keep in mind that buying singles back then wasn`t as easy, most people didn`t have access to the internet and stuff like Ebay, Cardmarket etc. came way later and those goldborder precons where cheaper as well.
Living in a small city in Brazil, this exact black deck was the only contact to meta MTG that I had back in 2000. That`s when I realized those dark ritual cards that I had a bunch of were actually good. I only have a Yawgmoth`s Will today, because I traded for one back in the day after seeing it on this deck. Fun times!
@pinobluevogel6458
11 ай бұрын
I have a ton of respect for the Brazilian magic community. Card availability and pricing has been an issue for you guys for what seems like the entire magic history. Still, you produced some of the best pro-players in the world and set a standard for how well magic can be played.
Yesss!! I NEED more of this old school magic
I love Frank Carsten. I made my bacholor's thesis with his articles about probability in card games.
@Blackadder75
10 ай бұрын
That is really cool, as he also used game math and statistics in his own scientific work (He has a PhD if I am not mistaken) it's fun to see that such things can be used by others as well
god, the amount of editing work gone into this with the cards in hand having hard corners and the manaburn animation. I'm loving it!
Frank Karsten is an absolute icon to me...and I barely saw him during his pro career! His statistical analysis of the game is second to none. His articulate analytical mind comes across just as well in his play.
This became instantaneously my fav series. It's just great to have Frank giving background story and then the games were just insane! Please do more!!
Commenting for the algorithm because I love these videos. I wish I could have played Magic back then. These meta seems so much more interesting than the borderline non-games we get to see in competitive Magic today.
Thank you for this series, it's been great thus far! I look forward to seeing the next parts.
What a amazing series this is. It really is astonishing how much high quality content you guys put out. Thanks a lot!
This series of videos has been an amazing trip down memory lane. Thank you for that and most definitely keep them coming.
This serie is a tremendous add to an already stellar channel ! Keep up !
That was a lot of fun! Please keep it going! :)
I love these old world championship decks, such a cool part of the game. Excited to see more of the videos in this series.
These have been my favorite series. Been saving them for when I can watch them and it’s been something to look forward to.
@CardmarketMagic
10 ай бұрын
I'm happy you enjoy them :)
Nice! Another Flashback episode. These are always a super interesting watch.
"You mean unaffected by summoning sickness." lol fun watch. These old decks and era of mtg is something special
This is really cool. I'm a big fan of Frank as a guest. Love this type of video and would love to see more decks from MTG's past!
Love this new series you guys are doing. I hope you will continue to the 2004 Championship decks.
21:30 Frank really felt like a kid again after that, that was such a genuine reaction
Near the end, when activating Masticore to kill the rats before having to sacrifice it, Jamin used the dinamo to add 3 mana and used 2 on the Masticore's ability, so he should of taken one mana burn damage, right? Didn't mattered at the end but it's fun to imagine how these wild mecanics used to work in the ancient times XD Really nice games, really fun to watch and probably to play too
Awesome video idea. I'd watch a few more matches with other decks in the collection for sure
As someone who usually just watches Arena gameplay this was an amazing change of pace! It was great seeing you play Worlds' decks and Frank Karster contextualizes and explains everything so well, it's a pleasure to watch him pilot a deck, hope to keep seeing him! And please do keep making these old school deck showcases!!
I'm digging the hell out of this historic stuff, especially the gameplay! Thank you!
It's always great to see Frank Karsten! Those games were sweet!! If it's possible I'd love to see videos like this being best of 5, it's so fun to watch these old decks!
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we cannot make these best of five. These videos already take half a week to make, making them longer would mean we would have to post less videos in general
This was awesome to watch! Love the look and feel of 90s Magic!
What a fun video! I love revisiting old decks like this. I would love to see more of these. Wildfire in particular is a favorite deck of mine. I've tried to make it work in a number of formats. My favorite was a modern version using that 7 mana wildfire, some other mild land destruction, and planeswalkers. Another way to dodge mana burn is with Grim Monolith - each tap-untap cycle drains one mana!
When I just got into Magic we still played with damage on the stack. It made my beloved sacrifice/dredge decks absolutely bananas, it was awesome. Keep up the great work, this video was fantastic 🥳
This series + Best deck series are both chef's kiss, incredible work cardmarket team!
Super interesting game with all stories and explanations of old rules from Frank. Great video guys!
Love to see Frank again, always a joy to watch him play and talk about magic. Also, shoutout to cardmarket for making sure we understand manaburn and damage on the stack😊
This is my favorite content, please do more of these!!!
wow, what a nostalgic game to watch. brought me back to my first games in magic and the mastering os the stack rules with combat damage! i was playing with my pile cards with my friends of childhood! sooooo many good feelings throughtout the video! thank you, guys!
Love watching these old decks from when i first started playing. Keep up the great videos
That was a lot of fun! Thanks for explaining about the old rules, too!
Gameplay and game history are great to watch here. Gotta watch it again to soak it up. 👍
That start is why I loved old school artifact decks
Love the frequency of Cardmarket videos lately ❤️
Frank is awesome. Its very cool to see these older games, still explosive but in very different ways.
That Wildfire opener showing why old artifacts were so crazy. My Jhoira cedh deck still loves Monolith (Grim or Basalt) + Key (Voltaic or Manifold) to this day.
Oh man, the memories. This was around the time when I was playing Magic the most as a kid. Between 1998-2004/5 or so. Middle school through high school. Seeing Yawgmoth's Will there was nostalgic.
Yessss. Please give us more of what my friends and i use to describe as the era of 'silly magic'. I am _all_ for it. And frank is a pretty chill dude :D
I love your uploads, they keep such company!
Nice video! It filled my evening with chill atmosphere and some positive retro vibe, so I felt that I’d like to play MTG with my family again)
Recently I've been watching a lot of Magic videos. This was the one I enjoyed the most.
Thanks for the edited and explained game play. :-)
Temporal Aperture is one of my all time favourite cards. It's always an auto include in my commander decks.
i had the time of my life watching those matches!!! thank you for the flashback
I am loving this historic deck series! Keep it up!
Great episode! Really entertaining. 👍
I love Frank Kirsten and this channel is quickly becoming my top favorite mtg channel! Awesome, please keep it up!
These are so great! I love learning about old magic stuff
I love these videos of old school magic, mostly because it’s the magic I remember (but definitely didn’t understand) from my elementary school days!
Love this series and seeing what older magic was like, please keep it up!
It’s really cool to see old cards on card market, keep up the good work!
Really like l enjoyed this video. It's really interesting getting to watch the type of match that would've taken place before a time i played magic
There's something really special about a meta where the best cards come with downsides! You're not just playing against your opponent. You're playing around your own deck.
I absolutely loved both videos where you played older decks, and would love to see more of it.
this video is great, everything is explained so very well that even a beginner MTG player can understand it. wish there were more videos like this.
Such a fun series, and incredible production values!
Great production and I was surprised by the many interesting interactions that happened, that MBC has quite a few tricks ;) good job as always!
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
Amazing “back in the days” serie, thanks for this!
Keep doing these. These are so much fun!
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
The plan is to hopefully do one of these for every year :)
Love these videos of classic decks!
Amazing work, history, gameplay, awesome guests, got it all
I think the concept of mana burn was the idea of a planeswalker over committing. You are drawing on to much power. If you had a card that didn't empty mana between phases, you wouldn't take mana burn, but that was relatively rare.
@alejandrorivas4585
11 ай бұрын
It makes a lot of narrative sense as well given how insanely powerful oldwalkers were as well pre mending
Decklists: bit.ly/3QDw3GZ
@guillaumegladieux9839
11 ай бұрын
Is the link broken ? Leads me to a 404 page.
@-homerow-
11 ай бұрын
Same 404
@zigor2545
11 ай бұрын
Please put the correct link. This one is not working
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
The link has now been updated :)
i just wanted to say how much i love the midgame interviews, they're always so interesting. the fact they're done midgame is wild to me
Greatly enjoy this series. I loved the World Champ decks from back in the day. It's sad they don't still do them.
Great video! I’d love to see one more play even if the best of three was decided, gotta give the black deck one more chance of winning!
Frank's insights into these relics of the past is wonderful :3 It really helps explain why certain rule differences make a large impact, especially if the current decks might not get to show something off (although that was no issue in these matches).
Great music choice, thanks for the video!
I've been playing for 28 years, and it's amazing how interactive the game has been throughout all this time.
thank you! awesome video!
Just showing the matches would've be great "classic mMagic" gameplay footage. But you went over the top again by explaining the old rules and context via the interviews. And you invited Frank Karsten for this, who may be the single best conversationalist when it comes to talk about playing Magic. As we say in Germany, this video is a "absoluter Hammer!" Can't wait to see the rest of the series. Thank you so much!
These are two of my all-time favorite decks. Great seeing them in action again. It makes me feel like I'm in high school haha! Magic just feels more one-dimensional now than it did then.
I love all of your videos, they are just so entertaining!
@CardmarketMagic
11 ай бұрын
I'm happy you enjoy them :) we put a lot of effort into them
I love this so much thank you ❤
Great video, brings me back, with that said, go further back!
@CardmarketMagic
10 ай бұрын
We plan to do one of these for every year :)
Must have been laundry day for Jamin. Love the content!
Please continue the series! It´s a very interesting and entertaining content :)
@CardmarketMagic
10 ай бұрын
We filmed 5 of these with Frank, and if they do well, we plan on doing one omfor every year :)
Urza's block was SO good. Awesome memories. Please do more of these. Bring back damage on the stack! Never forget Mogg Fanatic!
Awesome games! So entertaining and so informative.
so awesome to see Frank in action! Miss you buddy!
This channel is so good. Love all the content
Man, I could watch Frank reminisce about the olden days for hours. The gameplay was also great this match. I love your "history of magic" videos like this one.
@pinobluevogel6458
11 ай бұрын
Something like a podcast would work, I hope he considers it.
Love the stuff with Frank!
i love this, i love the history, i forgot about graveyard order. you guys should do all the top 4 matches of each year vs each other.
That first game was SO incredibly fun to watch! The comeback potential on these decks is insane!!!