This was to be the start of a project on thermal and smoke, however I soon discovered a lot of it is G-2 so I cannot finish working on it. Element Training Complex in Holt, Florida is going to be my go to spot for a lot of future projects and tests. Check them out.

@tipnoel

2 жыл бұрын

Potato here, what does G-2 mean ?

@dlistmemer591

2 жыл бұрын

@@tipnoel he sunk your battleship

@Oxide_does_his_best

2 жыл бұрын

@@tipnoel Some kinda government military secret crap

@TheChiily

2 жыл бұрын

Odd question but were you wearing an IHPS helmet or an ACH / ECH?

@claythomas3353

2 жыл бұрын

Sweet brahhhh, good work!

Another interesting thing is that fog is easily penetrated by night vision with IR whereas with a white light it poses much more of a photonic barrier. Found this out while hog hunting one humid night while there was a thick fog. Pretty much could not see at all through the fog with the white light but the night vision with ir was easily able to spot and shoot hogs through.

@Oxide_does_his_best

2 жыл бұрын

Thermals are nice because these days they’re generally sensitive enough to see through fog

@kimbellbush1857

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oxide_does_his_best oh yeah I was just saying in addition to thermal. Would be nice to have both or some kind of overlay setup.

@kimbellbush1857

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oxide_does_his_best oh yeah of course*

@aidenkirkaldy5394

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimbellbush1857 ecoti for pvs 14 go brrr

@LabiaLicker

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidenkirkaldy5394 or breach

This one is really interesting, we want more of stuff like this.

@Geezer2006

2 жыл бұрын

We nigga you talking french

@soldatzes6787

2 жыл бұрын

@@Geezer2006 Nigga we speaking English

@fiskersproductions

2 жыл бұрын

Give him money.

@BlackRifleBear

2 жыл бұрын

We the plebs have spoken!

he's just standing there menacingly

Really good stuff Ox, excited for more of this. Game designers and movie makers take note.

A little strange to me that there's a g-2 restriction since their is alot of videos showing to to easily exploit thermal optics but what ever. Still great to see some more recent testing

@AdamsS12345

2 жыл бұрын

What u mean by exploiting?

@TR_P

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdamsS12345 exploit is to make usable intelligence out of material. you can have an image of something, to create an annotated graphic is to exploit it, creating a product.

@cxsey8587

2 жыл бұрын

What’s g-2?

@moonasha

2 жыл бұрын

@@cxsey8587 I think it's dicey because he's in the military, and recording how our military's smoke works on IR would basically be revealing intel to our enemies

always kind of expected this since smoke doesnt burn your skin off standing in it. but good to actually see this

@ArcturusOTE

2 жыл бұрын

Now I wonder what WP smoke will do to IRs, glow bright perhaps?

@josedorsaith5261

2 жыл бұрын

Spicy smoke

Anecdote time: There was a time long ago when pot was illegal in Oregon. The cops in their infinite wisdom came to a realization that if they utilized IR optics on suspected structures that housed the facilities to grow marijuana plants they'd glow thermally. This set off an arms race including people covering every interior surface with aluminum foil and eventually space blankets which work very effectively at countering IR.

@Kalashnigoon

2 жыл бұрын

The foils for reflecting light to get more light coverage on your leaves to maximize energy production during light hours

@josedorsaith5261

2 жыл бұрын

Moves grow op to basement. Problem solved!

@ghostbirdlary

2 жыл бұрын

didnt that get ruled unconstitutional? i dont remember if it did or didnt but it got ruled on im pretty sure

@zackzittel7683

8 ай бұрын

@@Kalashnigoon foil is terrible at reflecting light. Mylar does the dual role of an insulator and a reflector.

Neato. It's almost like the smoke isn't even there on the IR. Unfortunate that you won't be able to finish working on the project, but it happens. Excited for your future content!

Man joining the Army just made your videos better 🤣 Also something to note, WP can be used in support of friendlies as a screen. However, toxic gas and all that. So gotta throw it closer to the expected line of sight of enemy OPs.

@VeteranOfSojuWars

2 жыл бұрын

WP for obscuring enemy positions and OPs. Or ON enemy OPs. As long as you're targeting the observation equipment and not the personnel, lol.

@Oxide_does_his_best

2 жыл бұрын

WP isn’t very effective against thermals

@VeteranOfSojuWars

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oxide_does_his_best True, the doctrine being to obscure in the visual spectrum with a quickly expanding cloud, damage or destroy any observation equipment close enough to it, and force the withdrawal of the observers. It's been quite a while since I observed WP under thermals (with an LLDR), but the effect was similar to the M18 in this demonstration (hot near the shell, but as the cloud expanded and thinned, it became transparent). That said, I would not envy the observer on an OP on the receiving end of a WP mission. (Per 3.09-30 Ch. 6-87, "threat observers" being listed as a target to be used against).

Really good stuff, short sweet and to the point.

very informative, short and sweet. Just like you

@n1663r

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine being five foot two.......

Glad to see the superior Black-Hot being used here lol. Interesting video.

I'm sorry but I've gotta do it, Ya boi at 0:28 has that Gondala body

One thing to note is that different kinds of IR scopes will see smoke different. LWIR and SWIR are not equals when it comes to this.

G-2, can't have those kids or aid workers evade the drones. - Alphabets, probably

Wow, this was a eyeopener for sure, it's like its not even there.

Damn, TIL Arma thermals = more broken than I thought

@barrycabbageM34

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure arma thermals are just the game without textures and some things are given a "glow" to them.

I'd like to see if someone could use a ground flare to disrupt the nvg or thermal scope. Or use say a 40mm flare launched toward a night vision device to conceal movement.

I don't understand why this works but it's still cool

This was my favorite move in rainbow six vegas 2. Throw a smoke, stand in it, thermals on, bang bang, "Aim for their leader!"

So MW2 It was right, thermal scope can see through the smoke.

*I see them all* ~ Tank gunner with a third-generation thermal scope

What was the song you used in your Not Quite Balkans video?

What do you think about the magazine ban in Washington?

This is the kind of niche shit NCO’s and PL’s should know. I had no idea it couldn’t obscure the thermal image.

Nice

first first seconds of this gave me boogaloo boy vibes

We’re can you get the M18 smoke?

Firefighters use thermals for search and rescue inside burning buildings for this reason. Great video.

This may be an odd question but was Oxide wearing an IHPS helmet or an ACH / ECH?

@samuelcouvin7206

2 жыл бұрын

it wasn't oxide but i think the guy wears a team wendy exfil ballistic

@TheChiily

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelcouvin7206 Ah, that would explain it. Was wondering since the NVG mount looked like the one found on IHPS helmets.

We used to get m18s and see how long we could hold on to them

Didn’t know this

Next try glitter!

G-2 = Intel so going to be stuff that has export restrictions etc.

@cxsey8587

2 жыл бұрын

What’s g-2?

Cool

Kinda disappointed nobody has mentioned how Glaz just got the real life nerf😂

The video shows once again that those air soft smoke grenades are trash compared to a m18. I have always wondered if smoke would do a better job against thermal if the ambient temperature was only a few degrees off from 98 degrees.

FlatRangeOperator already made a video showing this.

@FlatRangeOperator

2 жыл бұрын

Lol it's ok Ben said he was going to copy my idea via phone call ..granted

G-2?

Those smokes really don‘t look much more advanced/efficient than the KNO3+Sugar stuff i made in my teen years. Is the composition of those(M18) known to public?

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

If the grenades can be purchased privately then yes most likely.

@generalbakedpotato6150

2 жыл бұрын

Sorta, it's a laundry list of pyrotechnic compounds depending on the smoke color. They use ether sulphur and potassium chlorite as fuel or sugar instead depending on how old the munition is. So your kinda right funny enough. Alot of the smoke is still made from the dye which also contributes to their toxicity.

@VeteranOfSojuWars

2 жыл бұрын

M18s have been around since WW2, so it's not like they're new tech.

@saddlepiggy

2 жыл бұрын

No source for this but iirc some newer smokes use white phosphorous.

Should have posted side by side footage

UTM or UTM X?

RAMIREZ! Get to the burgertown and use that M14 with thermal to see the russians through the smoke!

Helmet test against m111?

I already know what egs look like under thermals tho.

So BF3 had it right pre-patch

Oxide you should show a gear setup that a Wagner group pmc would have

Big if true

Nice vid What thermal device

@lukabogdanovic4658

2 жыл бұрын

Cum

@preserveourpbfs7128

2 жыл бұрын

BAE UTM I believe

Bbwarz atropia edition when?

This goes hard.

What thermal imager did you use for this test?

@MasonFPS

2 жыл бұрын

BAE UTM (it's in the title)

Those are so tiny. I guess more meant for signaling or use indoors. Need M83.

ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR IRAR

@Benny---

2 жыл бұрын

Only dorks obey ITAR.

Smoke out

How about a completely jet black smoke screen?

@TheMaxi3234

2 жыл бұрын

Like Thicc black smoke screen

The more you know

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇵🇭

Hey I'd love an empty smoke granade to put on a shelf

@ChevTecGroup

2 жыл бұрын

They are cheap on gunbroker

@joshuataft5541

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChevTecGroup thanx for the info....I gotta start going online.idno why but I always shred away from online stuff

@joshuataft5541

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChevTecGroup are they used cans or do they have smoke in em.. I'd like a new one but even a spent one would look cool on the man cave

@ChevTecGroup

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuataft5541 live one's shot up in price in the last few years but can still be found. Spent ones are much cheaper.

@joshuataft5541

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChevTecGroup I'd like a few of each..I've taken gas station smoke bombs and made em bigger but nothing like the real deal..thanx for the info...now I can dream of some lol..

hold on, so videogames are right?

hello

what about the smoke that tanks use. I would imagine those are somehow modified with additives to block thermals because that is crucial to survival as we have seen in Ukraine.

@robertkalinic335

Жыл бұрын

Some do, some dont. Depends on how new or modernized they are.

Pov: -300 $

S c i e n c e + 1 0 0

I’ ll never forgive all the people who complained that games that were realistic about smoke+ thermal were “broken” even when flares were a direct and effective counter to thermals. So you know scince you’re doing smoke + thermals why not smoke vs flares for the next one.

Man's looking like a 2015 SyFy sci-fi show pilot episode protagonist lmao

Casually makes a video with a $9000 thermal monocular

LOL the dude looks like an operator except he is thin as a stick