I'm glad to know that should I purchase the new Inland model, I'm not stuck with the postwar adjustable sights!
@1feral17 жыл бұрын
Used your video to source a real nice take-down tool thru Fulton Armory, $100, but worth it. not those stamping ones on Amazon. Did a WWII late style rear sight upgrade today on my Springfield Armory 1995 vintage M1 carbine receiver, with the entire carbine kitted for a Korea era look. Thanks.
@jamesmolleur21968 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, this was a huge help to me. My sight was really fucking tight going in, but it's in nice and straight and it sure as shit isn't coming out. Thanks again!
@norwich93CMP11 жыл бұрын
If you don't stake the rear sight in place (adjustable type) in may move and change the location of your hits, that's if it doesn't fall out. A flip sight should be lightly chiseled into place. The receiver is heat treated but these minor modifications should be fine, just don't over due it. A black oxide finish, or rough green repark is a warning sign that the metal is brittle and beware.
@marinehotel11 жыл бұрын
Thanks and a Happy New Year!
@CACTUS484 жыл бұрын
I was in the Marines 67-70, We never staked anything, I would not do it, it is nice to know the rear sight dovetail must be tapered, left to right to remove and right to left to install...
@ndcouey709 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing.
@marinehotel11 жыл бұрын
...very helpful. I'm just getting started on M1's....seems to be very addictive. Question: if there is a need to stake a sight or pin will a punch (with reasonable force) work on the heat treated parts?
@norwich93CMP11 жыл бұрын
You need to get a staking tool (special punch) and stake it in place by hitting the receiver near the sight causing it to constrict. Hope that helps.
@davidschaadt346011 ай бұрын
I have a April of '44 Winchester carbine and I've been debating ,but I think I'm going to do it. I removed the bayonet lug and that went real well. Nice video.
@norwich93CMP
11 ай бұрын
Glad it worked for you!
@norwich93CMP11 жыл бұрын
If you don't stake the rear sight there is a chance of the sight moving during firing. You can try it but be prepared to look for your sight on the ground.
@kabsky6111 жыл бұрын
excellent video bro well done,thanks and more power....
@peternelligan86818 жыл бұрын
Well done, Thanks for this info....
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+peter nelligan Thank you Sir.
@norwich93CMP11 жыл бұрын
That spacer is a USGI and a part of the issued tool set for use only with the stamped type rear sight, not the milled type. Other improvised spacers will work like a few expired credit cards. Hoe that helps.
@norwich93CMP10 жыл бұрын
@ ftgsk See the comments I posted below. Basically you need to stake it in place, not too hard with a special tool.
@SlipperySlope4111 жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks!
@rickh930611 жыл бұрын
Hi Norwich93: Can you tell me where you got the "spacer" block from that you didn't use for this install? You showed it to us, but put it on the side. Thanks, Rick
@wilcoRGR11 жыл бұрын
Hi Norwich, I was wondering why my rear sight on my Universal M1 Moves so much. I do not think its staked into place. How do you perform this operation? Thanks
@werre27 жыл бұрын
so long story short: remove left to right, attach right to left.
@spaxspore12 жыл бұрын
ebay has them all the time
@davekell369 жыл бұрын
I have a few m1 carbines, inlands. Not sure If I would like the peep site as I get older my eyes seem to get worse! I cant even shoot over 100 yards anymore through irons with my m1a. Is there manufacture of upper hanguard rails that I could mount an optic?
@norwich93CMP
9 жыл бұрын
davekell36 Yes they make them look on GunBroker or Brownells.
@brandonkellogg95905 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on staking the sight? Perhaps do a video on that? My rear sight is very loose too
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
There is a notch cut into the adjustable rear sights . This is where you should stake the receiver dovetail into it lightly. Google the photos and you can see where and how hard to do it.
@BillBoyBaggins8 жыл бұрын
Last year, my dad gave me his WW II era M-1. I took it to the range and then returned it to its case. A couple of months later, I took it out again and, low and behold, the rear sight was missing! I thought, gee, it must have fallen out. I was able to get a new sight and install it by using a wooden block and hammer. Between that experience, and seeing this video, it is clear that the sight was stolen, and did not fall out. My only remaining question is, is there anything I need to do to make sure the sight does not move under recoil? Never mind; I read the comments, below.
@BillBoyBaggins
8 жыл бұрын
+BillBoy Baggins The range where I "lost" the sight was the DEEP range in Glastonbury.
@BillBoyBaggins
8 жыл бұрын
+BillBoy Baggins I can't find a staking tool on E-Bay. Will have to look elsewhere.
@frankcutrone89832 жыл бұрын
Have you ran into any m1 shooting to the right. Been reading about bent barrels and also moving the rear sight over to the left
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
Semi-autos, especially the M1, are very different than bolt guns. There are many different parts especially up front. If a barrel was bent that much there would be functioning issues. All the righting right should be correctable with the front sight sitting on a wide gas cylinder and the rear sight.
@zivendine5 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions?? The adjustable rear sight on my Rockola receiver is loose. Any idea what I need to do to keep the sight in place??
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
Depending if you have a flip sight or an adjustable. Flips are chiseled slightly on the dovetails just to the side of sights x4 total but usually the 2 to the right side will do it. If its an adjustable the sight needs to be staked in place unsetting the receiver dovetail in the notches made in the sight.
@luke504696 ай бұрын
Im working on one that has a rear notch sight but it is loose (moves left and right). Should I just use a punch to stake it back in place?
@norwich93CMP
5 ай бұрын
I would strip the rifle down and use a blunt punch, not a pointed.
@Nick452118 жыл бұрын
do the old stake marks show or are they covered up by the spring?
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+nick eaton Depends on how many, how heavy stacked, and the location. Usually if you turn to the side they can be seen since the spring does not sit on top of the receiver.
@CACTUS484 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a Matrix Rear Sight Remove/Install tool, it appear to have a sight spacer with it... Did not see any wings/spacers on EBAY...
@johnjones1805
3 жыл бұрын
Did it work for you ?
@CACTUS48
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones1805 Hi, have not used it yet...
@iamshrekowski76593 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to remove the adjustable sight on a universal m1 so I can put a early type flip sight on it?
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know but I do know they are close. Always buy a cheap repro flip, $40ish. If you have to file anything, file the sight.
@mevsol24477 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhm I can take my rear sight out by hand with about as much pressure as pushing a bullet from a full magazine, so I'm guessing that's not normal.....
@vinceperry7133 Жыл бұрын
So I am here because I bought a redfield scope mount with a flip peep sight for M1 carbine. The rear end that should have a dovetail is flat. Dose anyone have ANY ideas ?
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I don't.
@BigAl1344 Жыл бұрын
How about Zeroing one with the flip up rear sight? How exactly is that accomplished?
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
Zeroing is done on the short range, forward position. Depending on the rifle and how many rebuilds it will take some time. With a flip it is very difficult for windage. Elevation adjustments are done with the front sight height which is always best to start out with a tall post. Corrections cna then be made by filling it down. If an adjustable rear sight windage adjustment is very easy as well as elevation.
@my3sons3864 жыл бұрын
Links to where to by a rear sight tool, and the flip sight rear sight item?
@norwich93CMP
4 жыл бұрын
I have no specific but Amazon or eBay should work. The one I use is not made any more.
@win18857 жыл бұрын
Question: It looks as if you removed the better of the 2 sights. The first sight is fully adjustable for windage and elevation.Right?
@norwich93CMP
7 жыл бұрын
Most collectors want to restore their rifle to the as issued condition. Most cabines had the flip style sights on them when they came out of the factory.
@NvilleOL7012 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that tool?
@richardmorris1582 жыл бұрын
Now, how do you remove the rear sight without having the rear sight removal tool? I can’t see paying $50-$100 for a tool that I will only use once.
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
It can be drifted out with a punch or wood form left to right but this will usually 99% of the time make marks on the finish, damage the site, or actually break the dovetail of the receiver. I recommend borrowing, renting, or buying and reselling to ensure nothing is damaged.
@BBStudioProductions10 жыл бұрын
From where did you get the tool used to remove/install the rear sight?
@norwich93CMP
10 жыл бұрын
I think it was Nick Daily in CO.
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+BBStudioProductions Cannot remember I think form a guy in Colorado. He doesn't have a website.
@joeries7252 жыл бұрын
I like your vids, but I missed something. How do you know it's CENTERED properly?
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
By eye. But centered does not equal sighted in properly. Before staking the rifle should be test fired and adjusted left or right dependent on the bullet strikes. Once on target it should be staked, or chiseled, into place then no matter the centering on the receiver. I hope that helps.
@joeries725
2 жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP O.K. Thanks for coming back so quickly.
@joeries725
2 жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP O.K. Thanks for getting back to so quickly. Also, where do get all those wonderful tools?
@jrdeckard33175 жыл бұрын
The blue plastic thing only lasted two turns.
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
Think leather works nice too.
@leesherman100 Жыл бұрын
Who makes the rear sight removal tool??
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone makes them anymore. I have see some on eBay but I cannot attest to how well they work, if at all.
@leesherman100
Жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP Matrix makes the tool. Sixty buck$$.
@ScoutSniper3124 Жыл бұрын
Left Leave - Right Return
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
?
@katsu-graphics56343 жыл бұрын
There is no real reason to stake an adjustable windage device that moves anyways. . .it was staked as "proof" it was set "on center" . . . Staking is more important on something like a Luger Pistol Front sight , which is "shop" verified as centered, then marked as factory installed, checked and graded as finished. . . It's not making it any more immoveable., if you see a misaligned stake mark, it's telling a machinist the part is no longer at the factory suggested battery position. . .if a home installed rear sight with windage adjustment is a few thousands off center, the windage adjustment will compensate.
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
Staking, or upsetting, the dove tail is necessary for sights not to back out during firing. Many times replacing sights causes a gap issue necessitating the staking.
@imafriend13363 жыл бұрын
Now you’ve lost your ability to adjust for windage
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell those people in Kentucky. At the factor they were set up for windage, never heard of issue with it.
Пікірлер: 73
I'm glad to know that should I purchase the new Inland model, I'm not stuck with the postwar adjustable sights!
Used your video to source a real nice take-down tool thru Fulton Armory, $100, but worth it. not those stamping ones on Amazon. Did a WWII late style rear sight upgrade today on my Springfield Armory 1995 vintage M1 carbine receiver, with the entire carbine kitted for a Korea era look. Thanks.
Thanks man, this was a huge help to me. My sight was really fucking tight going in, but it's in nice and straight and it sure as shit isn't coming out. Thanks again!
If you don't stake the rear sight in place (adjustable type) in may move and change the location of your hits, that's if it doesn't fall out. A flip sight should be lightly chiseled into place. The receiver is heat treated but these minor modifications should be fine, just don't over due it. A black oxide finish, or rough green repark is a warning sign that the metal is brittle and beware.
Thanks and a Happy New Year!
I was in the Marines 67-70, We never staked anything, I would not do it, it is nice to know the rear sight dovetail must be tapered, left to right to remove and right to left to install...
Great video, thanks for sharing.
...very helpful. I'm just getting started on M1's....seems to be very addictive. Question: if there is a need to stake a sight or pin will a punch (with reasonable force) work on the heat treated parts?
You need to get a staking tool (special punch) and stake it in place by hitting the receiver near the sight causing it to constrict. Hope that helps.
I have a April of '44 Winchester carbine and I've been debating ,but I think I'm going to do it. I removed the bayonet lug and that went real well. Nice video.
@norwich93CMP
11 ай бұрын
Glad it worked for you!
If you don't stake the rear sight there is a chance of the sight moving during firing. You can try it but be prepared to look for your sight on the ground.
excellent video bro well done,thanks and more power....
Well done, Thanks for this info....
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+peter nelligan Thank you Sir.
That spacer is a USGI and a part of the issued tool set for use only with the stamped type rear sight, not the milled type. Other improvised spacers will work like a few expired credit cards. Hoe that helps.
@ ftgsk See the comments I posted below. Basically you need to stake it in place, not too hard with a special tool.
Good info. Thanks!
Hi Norwich93: Can you tell me where you got the "spacer" block from that you didn't use for this install? You showed it to us, but put it on the side. Thanks, Rick
Hi Norwich, I was wondering why my rear sight on my Universal M1 Moves so much. I do not think its staked into place. How do you perform this operation? Thanks
so long story short: remove left to right, attach right to left.
ebay has them all the time
I have a few m1 carbines, inlands. Not sure If I would like the peep site as I get older my eyes seem to get worse! I cant even shoot over 100 yards anymore through irons with my m1a. Is there manufacture of upper hanguard rails that I could mount an optic?
@norwich93CMP
9 жыл бұрын
davekell36 Yes they make them look on GunBroker or Brownells.
Can you elaborate on staking the sight? Perhaps do a video on that? My rear sight is very loose too
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
There is a notch cut into the adjustable rear sights . This is where you should stake the receiver dovetail into it lightly. Google the photos and you can see where and how hard to do it.
Last year, my dad gave me his WW II era M-1. I took it to the range and then returned it to its case. A couple of months later, I took it out again and, low and behold, the rear sight was missing! I thought, gee, it must have fallen out. I was able to get a new sight and install it by using a wooden block and hammer. Between that experience, and seeing this video, it is clear that the sight was stolen, and did not fall out. My only remaining question is, is there anything I need to do to make sure the sight does not move under recoil? Never mind; I read the comments, below.
@BillBoyBaggins
8 жыл бұрын
+BillBoy Baggins The range where I "lost" the sight was the DEEP range in Glastonbury.
@BillBoyBaggins
8 жыл бұрын
+BillBoy Baggins I can't find a staking tool on E-Bay. Will have to look elsewhere.
Have you ran into any m1 shooting to the right. Been reading about bent barrels and also moving the rear sight over to the left
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
Semi-autos, especially the M1, are very different than bolt guns. There are many different parts especially up front. If a barrel was bent that much there would be functioning issues. All the righting right should be correctable with the front sight sitting on a wide gas cylinder and the rear sight.
Any suggestions?? The adjustable rear sight on my Rockola receiver is loose. Any idea what I need to do to keep the sight in place??
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
Depending if you have a flip sight or an adjustable. Flips are chiseled slightly on the dovetails just to the side of sights x4 total but usually the 2 to the right side will do it. If its an adjustable the sight needs to be staked in place unsetting the receiver dovetail in the notches made in the sight.
Im working on one that has a rear notch sight but it is loose (moves left and right). Should I just use a punch to stake it back in place?
@norwich93CMP
5 ай бұрын
I would strip the rifle down and use a blunt punch, not a pointed.
do the old stake marks show or are they covered up by the spring?
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+nick eaton Depends on how many, how heavy stacked, and the location. Usually if you turn to the side they can be seen since the spring does not sit on top of the receiver.
I just ordered a Matrix Rear Sight Remove/Install tool, it appear to have a sight spacer with it... Did not see any wings/spacers on EBAY...
@johnjones1805
3 жыл бұрын
Did it work for you ?
@CACTUS48
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones1805 Hi, have not used it yet...
Is it possible to remove the adjustable sight on a universal m1 so I can put a early type flip sight on it?
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know but I do know they are close. Always buy a cheap repro flip, $40ish. If you have to file anything, file the sight.
Uhhhhm I can take my rear sight out by hand with about as much pressure as pushing a bullet from a full magazine, so I'm guessing that's not normal.....
So I am here because I bought a redfield scope mount with a flip peep sight for M1 carbine. The rear end that should have a dovetail is flat. Dose anyone have ANY ideas ?
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I don't.
How about Zeroing one with the flip up rear sight? How exactly is that accomplished?
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
Zeroing is done on the short range, forward position. Depending on the rifle and how many rebuilds it will take some time. With a flip it is very difficult for windage. Elevation adjustments are done with the front sight height which is always best to start out with a tall post. Corrections cna then be made by filling it down. If an adjustable rear sight windage adjustment is very easy as well as elevation.
Links to where to by a rear sight tool, and the flip sight rear sight item?
@norwich93CMP
4 жыл бұрын
I have no specific but Amazon or eBay should work. The one I use is not made any more.
Question: It looks as if you removed the better of the 2 sights. The first sight is fully adjustable for windage and elevation.Right?
@norwich93CMP
7 жыл бұрын
Most collectors want to restore their rifle to the as issued condition. Most cabines had the flip style sights on them when they came out of the factory.
Where can I get that tool?
Now, how do you remove the rear sight without having the rear sight removal tool? I can’t see paying $50-$100 for a tool that I will only use once.
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
It can be drifted out with a punch or wood form left to right but this will usually 99% of the time make marks on the finish, damage the site, or actually break the dovetail of the receiver. I recommend borrowing, renting, or buying and reselling to ensure nothing is damaged.
From where did you get the tool used to remove/install the rear sight?
@norwich93CMP
10 жыл бұрын
I think it was Nick Daily in CO.
@norwich93CMP
8 жыл бұрын
+BBStudioProductions Cannot remember I think form a guy in Colorado. He doesn't have a website.
I like your vids, but I missed something. How do you know it's CENTERED properly?
@norwich93CMP
2 жыл бұрын
By eye. But centered does not equal sighted in properly. Before staking the rifle should be test fired and adjusted left or right dependent on the bullet strikes. Once on target it should be staked, or chiseled, into place then no matter the centering on the receiver. I hope that helps.
@joeries725
2 жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP O.K. Thanks for coming back so quickly.
@joeries725
2 жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP O.K. Thanks for getting back to so quickly. Also, where do get all those wonderful tools?
The blue plastic thing only lasted two turns.
@norwich93CMP
5 жыл бұрын
Think leather works nice too.
Who makes the rear sight removal tool??
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone makes them anymore. I have see some on eBay but I cannot attest to how well they work, if at all.
@leesherman100
Жыл бұрын
@@norwich93CMP Matrix makes the tool. Sixty buck$$.
Left Leave - Right Return
@norwich93CMP
Жыл бұрын
?
There is no real reason to stake an adjustable windage device that moves anyways. . .it was staked as "proof" it was set "on center" . . . Staking is more important on something like a Luger Pistol Front sight , which is "shop" verified as centered, then marked as factory installed, checked and graded as finished. . . It's not making it any more immoveable., if you see a misaligned stake mark, it's telling a machinist the part is no longer at the factory suggested battery position. . .if a home installed rear sight with windage adjustment is a few thousands off center, the windage adjustment will compensate.
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
Staking, or upsetting, the dove tail is necessary for sights not to back out during firing. Many times replacing sights causes a gap issue necessitating the staking.
Now you’ve lost your ability to adjust for windage
@norwich93CMP
3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell those people in Kentucky. At the factor they were set up for windage, never heard of issue with it.
Nick Dailey at: folcmote(at sign)aol.com