Liz Truss’s ploy to ruin the Conservative Party’s election chances
“That is the huge dagger at the heart of the Conservative Party's election chances.”
A “terrific defeat” for the Conservatives “must be in the interests of Liz Truss” and her wing of the party, who continue to make the case for the 'Truss agenda'.
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I’m pushing ninety. I have never been so disgusted with the performance of any government in all my time. The Conservatives do not have a chance.
@DavidJohnson-yg8qm
25 күн бұрын
100% agree. Virtually all MPs are a disgrace. Andrew Bridgen can provide proof of that.
@IntelligentArtefact
23 күн бұрын
Let's hope you never have to witness another Tory government in your lifetime.
@nickryder9669
19 күн бұрын
@@IntelligentArtefactand lives to 1,000 years old
@aleccap5946
2 күн бұрын
No one, absolutely no one in their right mind would disagree with that statement
I'll give her one thing, she's right in saying we have ten years to save the West but that is by ensuring the Tories are kept out of power.
@ianworley8169
Ай бұрын
Trump AND the Tories more like.
@CubicSpline7713
Ай бұрын
So you're a Conservative through and through then...😂
@John-pr2gw
28 күн бұрын
@@ianworley8169 Whatever you say, Doctor Retardo..
@Wolf-hh4rv
26 күн бұрын
@@ianworley8169a British Trump is our last hope
@linmal2242
25 күн бұрын
@@Wolf-hh4rv Well, you have exiled Farage , one man with a bit of sense proposing for Britain ! STOP importing Moslem invaders to colonise your society for Islam !!!
Slight whiff of power and she went full megalomaniac
@DavidJohnson-yg8qm
25 күн бұрын
I don't agree. She had conservative policies. That is where she went wrong, oh and also Sunak failed to get the job so as the previous chancellor everything was in place to bounce her out of the job. I didn't agree with her policies but her termination was no surprise to me.
@davidbaxter4910
23 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTEMENT.
Truss is a vital electoral asset for the Labour Party.
@Andrew-tx9jy
27 күн бұрын
Yep, if you even for a minute consider voting Tory just remember it was them that gave us Truss as PM, 'nough said...
@andyrendell7430
17 күн бұрын
@@Andrew-tx9jyNot quite enough said: Cases to take into consideration: Brexiplonker Dave, Tearful Teresa, unspeakable Boris, twister Ricci too. And that's just till Aoril 2024, some real whakos in tne wings.
@Andrew-tx9jy
17 күн бұрын
@@andyrendell7430 Sorry I thought all the other Tory nutters went without saying...
Liz should move to Florida, plenty of friends there
@ian1753
Ай бұрын
Florida is damn amazing nowadays. California on the other hand is a disaster
What a weird person she is.
@taykitrleevitt4314
Ай бұрын
Probably why she was accepted into the Tory party.🤪😂
@billkingston4402
28 күн бұрын
Very weird, only conservative members would vote her in, the general public on the other hand think Liz is nuts
@rde4017
25 күн бұрын
A text book narcissist.
@davidbaxter4910
23 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTEMENT.
@davidbaxter4910
23 күн бұрын
@@billkingston4402SHE IS NUTS.
Where's his evidence that the Tories are economically competent and 'prudent' with the nation's finances? Every time they get into power, the country's infrastructure and vital services fall to bits. Or are infrastructure and vital services not part of the economy?
@backgammonbacon
Ай бұрын
He just said that's what people think not that its true. And people do think that despite all the evidence to the contrary. Labour have grown the economy massively every time they have got into power but somehow people forget this. I don't think people actually know the stats behind the economy they just got this idea that the Conservatives are good from somewhere and it wont shift.
@taykitrleevitt4314
Ай бұрын
@@backgammonbaconThe result of Tory media outlets feeding the usual propaganda B.S.
@suburbia2050
Ай бұрын
I think it's more about a perception of reigning in "expenses". It's why the Blair government could go on a spending spree after Major. Obviously expenses mean different things to different people and as you cut ever deeper into ever aging infrastructure investment while international competition around you grows it becomes more of a dangerous tactic, Camerons austerity programme was particularly disastrous, evident by the stagnation in productivity in the UK since. I don't think Sunak is much different to Truss, re crippling HS2 and reducing investment in green industries, two areas that could actually improve productivity in the UK, specifically in the North, the Tories now are more like a one trick pony over reliant on the unicorn of the spontaneous entrepreneur that is meant to mythically appear from tax cuts where in reality tax cuts just increases our existing poor trade deficit and continues the cycle of the south east heavily to give hand outs to the rest of the country.
@billkingston4402
28 күн бұрын
But they get very rich 🤑
@daraorourke5798
28 күн бұрын
Its just a comfort blanket they grasp at.
I'm not sure she could lower the Conservative Party’s election chances if she tried. They are already out of the gutter and well down the drain on their way to the river outfall.
@jimbob-robob
Ай бұрын
They'll have to get past the Tory sewage in the river outfall first...
@papamurrth1
Ай бұрын
If anyone could, Liz could
@robertmaslin3844
Ай бұрын
Don't you mean sewerage outfall?
@bluegold21
28 күн бұрын
TR seems to be implying Truss is the conservative party's problem. That is a blatant distraction from how far right the tory's have gone.
@Iazzaboyce
28 күн бұрын
It's still early days and believing polls is a 'fool's paradise'. Firstly, many Tory voters have a long tradition of deserting the party mid-term to apply pressure on policy. So, there will be many right-wing people not voting in local or by-elections and telling lies to pollsters. These people always vote in general elections and never want Labour. Then there's the matter of Reform leeching crucial votes from Tory candidates. In theory, this appears great for Labour - in practice Reform takes votes from Labour too (May discovered this in 2017 when she wrongly assumed post referendum all 2015 UKIP votes would go Tory). Also it's looking probable the Tory Party will shift to the right and make an election pact with Reform to leave the ECHR and stop the boats. This would mean Reform and Tories not contesting the same seat and making the general election all about 'the boats'. As Harold Wilson famously once said: _"A week is a long time in politics."_
It won’t be the men in grey suits who give her advice, it will be the men in white coats who take her away!
@daraorourke5798
28 күн бұрын
They all thinks she's bonkers. But the Tory members would take her back in a heartbeat 😂
@davidbaxter4910
23 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTEMENT.
Having Liv Struss doing that audiobook would almost make worth listening to. Not that I will anyway because I have to pay a lot more money on my mortgage now
Journalists should NEVER go for dinner or drinks with ANY politician, good or bad. Your job is to hold them to account .
So fascist for a lettuce!
@normasarsby1350
Ай бұрын
Lettuce are allowed to be fascist.
I listened to the lettuce speaking this afternoon in the House Of Commons when they were debating the proposed smoking ban. I have read that 2/3rds of the population support the ban. Over 70% of Conservative voters support the smoking ban. She had the bare brass neck to claim that large chunks of her party are not listening to the public. I don't know what Lizzie Lettuce has been smoking but I don't think it's Dunhill Luxury Length.
@michaelbrian219
Ай бұрын
Have they ever listened to the public?
@marthas.4456
28 күн бұрын
I'm just surprised the Conservatives still have some support amongst the population.
She should be in prison for all the misery she caused.
@JohnSmall314
Ай бұрын
Not the only one. A lot of minsters and ex-ministers in recent Tory governments should be prosecuted for misconduct in public office.
@shaunjp2211
29 күн бұрын
If you put all the conservatives in prison for the criminal behaviour that they cursed this country harm, then we'd need to build more prisons. Admittedly Truss belongs in a padded cell wearing a fashionable straight jacket. She's bonkers!!
She was part of their imminent catastrophe, and will be remembered for being the shortest serving PM and the most inept! flushed!
Liz Tuss - You want Crazy you get Crazy.
Truss isn't a Conservative. Economic prudence is an alien concept to her. She is also totally lacking in self-awareness.
@billpugh58
29 күн бұрын
Hey, we have seen what prudence a conservative government exercises the last 14 years😂
@markmorris1105
29 күн бұрын
It's a Good job she was Removed from being the PM , just another Trump supporter 😢😢
@pontimin4173
29 күн бұрын
Truss is an idiot. if she tried to make the Tories do badly, it'd probably make them do better.
@intervention.07
29 күн бұрын
Conservative party are traitors. They have destroyed my country. The UK is finished. Shame on you
@mikekelly5869
26 күн бұрын
Which of the current crop would you call a true conservative. I'm not being ironic, I'd be interested to know.
She obviously hasn’t thought things out by publishing her book, she has single handedly uncovered the Conservatives agenda. Congratulations Liz Thank you for showing the Conservatives true colours.
Liz Truss is merely twisting the dagger which is already in the heart of the Conservative Party.
@rogerphelps9939
Ай бұрын
Good.
@growlerthe2nd712
Ай бұрын
She is the dagger 🗡️ 😮
@TheLucanicLord
29 күн бұрын
TIL it has one. I've known it had no brain for 14 years.
Tory party watching the far right making nuts decisions
I would liked to have seen her more distraught over what her policies had done to people but this doesn't seem to be the case.
You'd think this failure of a woman would disappear and hide from the public stage forever. What a waste of space.
@Royboy50
26 күн бұрын
They are all collectively shameless
@IntelligentArtefact
23 күн бұрын
I'd still give her One. But that's a score out of Ten.
‘Magical thinker’ that is very generous. She’s a wolly brain.
Think Liz Truss. Think cheese. Think lettuce. Think crazy. 😂😂
@CountScarlioni
Ай бұрын
I wonder if the Chinese pork markets still think of Liz Truss? 😅
If it sounds like a child and it looks like a child then it is a child, in the world of politics.
The Liz Truss libertarian agenda isn’t really about appealing to a significant bloc of the voting public. It’s about appealing to American billionaires who might write you a big cheque.
An ego run riot, but whats really disturbing they took her seriously
@davidbaxter4910
23 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTEMENT.
Truss ..........a fruit and nut case .
truss can it get more cringe ?
just flogging the book, and as for the tory party, flogging a dead horse.
I really thought that was Nerine Skinner doing one of her excellent Liv Struss spoofs. Is that really printed in Liz Truss' book?
@tonyb9735
28 күн бұрын
Yes, Nerine Skinner reading genuine excerpts from the book.
I rarely agree with his views but think Mandelson is spot on about the values of the Red Wall differing from the libertarian right
Zero seats!
That ship has sailed ... LONG AGO.
Liz Truss is “not really a deep thinker”? That is the greatest understatement I have heard all year.
How did Norfolk select her ?
@pgtipz7468
Ай бұрын
Have you ever met people from Norfolk?
@CountScarlioni
Ай бұрын
Yeah, well that's a question that surely answers itself. How is because it's Norfolk!
@michaelbrian219
Ай бұрын
They must have been paid.
@g.pmoore4293
Ай бұрын
Interbreeding
@Tsunamiash80
28 күн бұрын
Norfolk is a Tory Stonghold. They would vote for a pig with a blue rosette. If only that were the option instead of Truss.
Not even Tice would have her. 😄
her voice.. urg
I thought she decomposed already
@sarcasticstartrek7719
Ай бұрын
No that was a vegeta... oh, wait.
@eoghangreene5728
Ай бұрын
No, people laughed when Lizzy was sacked after a few weeks but in the end, the lettuce is gone and Lizzy lives on. Lettuce pray for britain.
If she opens her package again , its like Pandora's box!.
Liz Truss. A triumph of ambition over competence.
A classic example of the "Dunning Kruger effect ", a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.
Wow! I never knew that Liz was a comedy writer
The problem with Truss is that there are a few nuggets of truth in the midst of her complete hallucinations
@andybrice2711
26 күн бұрын
I'm no fan of Truss and her terrible regressive policies. But the mainstream narrative that she "crashed the economy" just doesn't add up. The stock market dipped around the time that interest rates went up. That's normal. And the stock market doesn't even represent the economy particularly well. Yet every single news outlet jumped on the opportunity to blame her for everything, without any skepticism.
Truss is mad,the only good thing is she adds to the Tories woes!! Tories are finished!!!
The bit about Nick Clegg refusing to authorise larger childcare ratios is not a "win" to brag about. It genuinely could have transformed affordability and supply of childcare over the last 10 years. The result of no reform is poorer families. Good job, Nick!
Goodbye tories, 30 years of obscurity awaits!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
@user-tc7qb7st2d
29 күн бұрын
Don't be so sure - the English are a masochistic lot.
Its already a joke in America...
Shes still an MP? Yet another one not doing her job at home while swanning around the nutters speech circuit.
I love watching conservatives complain about how incompetent their own politicians but fail to see the irony.
I'm glad Liz is still exposing herself on the national stage - let's get Boris, May and the whole motley of fools together as a reminder of the "best" that this party can offer
Nerine Skinner needs to do the whole book. It's Partridge-grade material. But with the very scary aspect that that was a former Prime Minister 😮
Truss is the icing on a rotten cake called The Tory Party!!!!
Once upon a time a lettuce went to live in number 10 and thought she was extremely clever, more so than everyone else at least. But the big bad crash proved she was wrong and everyone paid for her mistakes. Then she wrote comedic book about her adventures.
She really does come across as unhinged. And has the personality of a lettuce. Whatever you thought about Mrs Thatcher she had charisma and was clearly very intelligent. Liz Truss has gone from a Cameroon Tory supporting Remain to hanging around with Steve Bannon talking about the "deep state". I cannot imagine what her family think. It's quite a difference.
@jeremymanson1781
Ай бұрын
Her parents were Labour supporters.
@systemofapown
Ай бұрын
Her Dad is professor of maths at University of Leeds. So he's probably intelligent enough to be horrified. Truss said herself in an interview yesterday that her parents still argue with her about her politics.
She is comedy gold.
Has any normal people brought her book? Or is it just political journalists. That's the only people I hear talking about her.
Not listening to anything anout liz the lettuce for 40 minutes.
Claiming "All Libertarians want a police state" is insane, takes zero understanding of political ideologies to make such a claim
@drummingtildeath
Ай бұрын
What about the guy that claimed everyone was happy when Johnson got brexit done, and that his personality is popular? There was quite a lot of nonsense being spouted.
@JohnSmall314
Ай бұрын
'Claiming "All Libertarians want a police state" is insane," Well maybe not all, but most of them. If you read the small print on libertarianism it only ever means liberty for rich white people and everyone else should know their place and take orders from their superiors. If you want to know a person's real motives you should never listen to what they say but watch what they do when faced with difficult choices. So what did the self-styled 'libertarians' of the Tory party do when faced with public sector workers demanding more liberty in the form of living wages? They passed laws restricting their liberty to go on strike. That shows their real motives. All the liberties people have wrung from powerful people at the top have come through left wing agitation, not right wing 'libertarians'. You'll never see a self-styled 'libertarian' on the picket lines with workers striking for more liberty in their lives. You'll never see a self-styled 'libertarian' on the Channel beaches welcoming destitute refugees from authoritarian regimes seeking liberty on our shores. That's because self-styled 'libertarians' do not care for liberty for the masses, it's only ever liberty for the very rich, and a police state for everyone else. Putin is the finest example of 'libertarian' around. He has the liberty to do whatever he wants and every one else in Russia lives in a police state.
@YouTubemessedupmyhandle
29 күн бұрын
But they’re not true libertarians, they’re ultra conservatives who abuse the term.
@astratan2238
29 күн бұрын
Libertarianism as an ideology might technically advocate against such a policy. In practice, though, every libertarian elected to high office slashes everything except the security services - then uses those to maintain the status quo while the rest burns.
@Hession0Drasha
29 күн бұрын
They need the police state though, as the oligarchy created, makes the masses rebel. There hasn't been a libertarian state, where the majority of people have happilly participated, or had their living standards increase. In the best possible outcome, you get a one off burst of meritocracy, where the winners and their decendants become lords, and the decendants of the losers, stay poor serfs, irregardless of merit.
I don’t think anyone can further damage their election prospects except perhaps Sunak.
She was a bad apple for sure. 🙀
Imagine being able to want to support truss
Peter Mandelson strikes me as the personification of everything that is wrong in the Labour Party today: a focus on politics rather than people. I'd go so far as to suggest that he sees people as a block to politician's lofty ambitions. Thank you Matt for answering Mandy's 'rhetorical' question about Corbyn's response to the Iran/Israel conflict as wanting "peace"- best part of the podcast!
Urgh this woman is awful.
@mjc8281
Ай бұрын
I do agree with you, now I'm not a Tory, but think of how awful she is from their perspective, they have the local elections coming next month, many councillors up and down the country, who themselves might be working hard locally are having to compete with Liz Truss for space in the minds of the voters! It just goes to show how truly dreadful she is, not just as a PM but as a human being and proves that she totally lacks any level of self-awareness.
@johnwhyte7834
Ай бұрын
She is mentally ill I think.
impossible to do the tories are dust luz truss very important to the labour party lol
GET A GRIP THEY LOST 2 YRS AGO
People are sleeping on the streets can't afford to pay their bills and we're wasting our lives talking about this waste of space
Well, 49 days as Tory prime minister will cement her place in British political history as an incompetent failure
Thoughts and prayers for her father. Kids can be so f... annoying.
A sad woman. Sadder still that she became leader of the country on the whim of Conservative Party members, and not a vote of the country. Just goes to show how out-of-touch party members are.
@matthewgubbins8515
26 күн бұрын
No offence that's how our constitution works.
@CM73878
7 күн бұрын
@@matthewgubbins8515 the constitution, such as we have in the UK, does not govern how party members vote for their leader. Therefore to cite a constitutional argument is erroneous.
If she really wanted to deliver, deliver, deliver, why didn't she get a job at a pizzeria, a meal home delivery serive or a logistics company?
She is just doing a farage inspired grift to grab as much cash as she can from telling pretty unpleasant people what they want to hear and should be ignored.
We liked Liz in Russia. She's funny😁
The Conservative party need to expel her, she is in need of mental health help!
You assume Truss is clever……
She would be best being auditioned for a part in Star Trek The Unseen Generation 😂😂😂
These politicians are about to find out the true meaning of job insecurity, and how hard it is to get a new job when you’re over forty, especially when your experience and skills have been gained in a narrow sphere. We’re living in interesting times.
Great Jackie weaver reference
What a bizarre take on Liz Trusses intentions lololol
Some conservative she is. Cutting taxes and increasing borrowing and expecting the invisible hand of the market to do it's work.
Just remember the members selected her to be the PM. It should never be allowed to happen again.
When will the Tories get that not everyone that was alive in during the Thatcher regime are nostalgic about it. What actually did Thatcher achieve for working class, income and NI paying Britons, without an accountant? What did May, Johnsone, Truss or Sunak achieve for the same group?
Don’t you mean her second ploy? Her first one was in 2022.
Honestly, how can someone be so thick and not understand that they're thick after seeing the result of their getting their own way.
A lot of people would still give her One. But that's a score out of Ten.
Nice to hear some grown-ups for a change, and to hear even Tories pleading for realism.
If anyone believes that Truss is looking for a position in a Think Tank, they are mistaken. She is more suited to a Thick Tank.
She delivered alright for the banks the book should have been called how to get 120,000 a year pension for destroying a country
I am getting beyond despair because everything political looks so dismal. And cannot see anyone or anything that can stop this country’s deterioration. I don’t think it’s depression because when I’m out in nature etc. I feel so good about life. Maybe going off grid is a better alternative lifestyle
Lizzy is a Trumpite grifter
Good grief, they don't need Truss' help for that.
My Geordie friend, Michael, who works in a BP garage, fancies getting into marketing for a publishing company so I set him the challenge of trying to sell the new Liz Truss book to me, with me playing the role of a sceptical potential buyer. "Would you like this booook?" he said, (Yes, I know it's often hard to understand the Geordie people). "Who’s it by?" I responded. Michael said: "It's by this woman what used to be Prime Minister, but, she wasn't very good, so now she’s not. She went right doon right, and hit rock bottom man, and now she’s on her way back up right, but I mean she’ll never get back to where she was, cos them days is over like, but she’s coming back a bit." At this point I had to inform Michael that I wouldn't want to read a book like that, because it sounded depressing. I added that his sales technique was awful. And that he was low on Bodyline Brushable Joint Sealer.
They have sunk their chances all by themselves, don't need any more help from Lizzy
Did Tony Benn wish defeat on the Labour Party?
@CyclingSteve
Ай бұрын
No, I think they meant it as sticking to their principles, the hosts disapproving of principles, good or bad.
At infant school, I remember them torturing one of the girls thus: "Blondie, you're barmy you awta join the army".
Can we stop taking about it?
Around 17'00" Mandelson is not sure who is likely to support Truss. Just look who her friends are: Trump, Bannon, Wilders, Orbán. She (not the exploded Johnson) is now the QAnon representative in England.
Interesting analysis on Corbyn here. I did support Corbyn’s Labour at the leadership elections and both general elections but agree that he learnt the wrong lessons and put forward a 2019 manifesto that was too radical for swing voters. Where I disagree with the panel is that the 2017 manifesto’s anti austerity measures were actually quite popular with the public and if Starmer ran on a similar platform today, he would probably win a landslide. Tory chaos has only increased in the intervening years and the media are less hostile to Starmer than to Corbyn. I also believe that Corbyn’s attitude towards Israel is far more rational than that of many ‘mainstream’ politicians and resonates outside the Westminster bubble.
Sunak . Please no more of this WEF plant. GTF
RISHI SUNAK: We have a plan, and the plan is working.' LIZ TRUSS: 'We will deliver, deliver, deliver...' RISHI SUNAK: 'I will work day in and day out to DELIVER for you. This government will have integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level.' PENNY MORDAUNT: 'We fight, and fight, and fight some more..!' LIZ TRUSS: 'At the moment, we do not export cheese to Japan. This is a DISGACE..!' SUELLA BRAVERMAN: 'I blame the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati...' BORIS JOHNSON: 'We will build 40 new hospitals...' BORIS JOHNSON: 'There will be £350 Million every week for the NHS after Brexit.' LEE ANDERSON: 'You can feed a family for 30p per day...' JACOB REES MOGG: 'Food Banks are heart-warming...' LIZ TRUSS: 'I'm ready hit the ground running from day one...' STEPHEN BARCLAY: 'We're investing in our workforce, in our NHS estate, in the latest technology. That is how we build a sustainable NHS for the future.' BORIS JOHNSON: 'Let the bodies pile high...' The words of Tory Ministers speak for themselves. It's just a pity that the reality is somewhat different from their rhetoric. Except for the bodies piling high, which sadly DID come to pass...