Man maths, selling an older Cayman because you need the money to buy a house, then turn around and buy a new more expensive Cayman.

@lollypop9580

2 жыл бұрын

Sell the old one to solve the credit and then Ask for a Big house credit who incluses the amount of the New cayman...

@RumblestripDotNet

2 жыл бұрын

@@lollypop9580 what is your experinece trying to get a mortgage to buy a house?

@MadelnMachines

Жыл бұрын

Yeah what the hell?

@robertlarotonda1788

Жыл бұрын

6

@lollypop9580

Жыл бұрын

@@robertlarotonda1788 This is the Real answer. 👍

When my wife realized I was serious about buying a cayman and came down to the dealership with me to look at a CPO CGTS…. She rolled her eyes at me during the test drive when she realized it was a manual. She grilled me about why a CPO ‘15 cost as much as a 718 S. She asked why I would want used vs new. She asked if I could deal with the slight paint imperfections. She even asked if I liked the paint color. Um…. Carmine red, so yeah…. She asked a bunch of other questions. In the end, she said you work hard, get what makes you happy. 4 years later and I still smile every time I hear that cold start, or 6k rpm as I sail up an on-ramp. Or when I walk back to it after we have Sunday brunch. It’s not the fastest. It’s not the icon 911. But it’s damn near perfect for me.

@herrbrahms

Жыл бұрын

And it's a manual, which is critically important.

As a MT BMW M2 Comp owner, after watching your videos on the Caymans, I had to give them at least a test drive. I found a 2016 MT Cayman GTS in my area and took it for a spin. Wow, I now understand the hype. The car was so balanced, shifted like a dream, with a beautiful exhaust note. It’s wasn’t as fast as the M2C, and lack that brutal BMW M acceleration, but the refinement was just next level. Funny enough, since I enjoy the Cayman, I took my wife to look at a Macan S and we both fell in love and purchased one. Now I’m looking at purchasing a Cayman GTS for myself and selling the M2. 👍🏼

@dBsdecibels

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I just posted a reply recounting my M2 / Cayman comparison, and I came to a very different conclusion. I've driven 981 S, 718 base and S, and I came to the same conclusion with all three.

@ronnie7061

2 жыл бұрын

I also did a back to back test drive between M2 comp and Cayman S and ended up buying a GTS. M2 does look sweet though!

@Hapkin

2 жыл бұрын

Try and find an M2CS. It's performance is between a GTS and GT4 with the same kind of attention to detail with structural carbon roof, carbon ceramics and the adaptive dampers are a game changer vs M2C. Not to mention too end performance of M2CS blows away M2C and GTS and is at GT4 level. I like Caymans but they are almost too perfect that they lose character. 911's have that rear weight bias that makes them memorable. Plus-4 seats. My family loves it.

@dBsdecibels

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hapkin Yeah, I'd love a CS, but that would be an unwise financial decision, lol. I am looking at 911s for the reasons you've suggested. Haven't had a chance to test drive one yet though. Manuals in 911 are INCREDIBLY rare, it seems like. Now that the Supra will come in manual, I'm going to give them a look as well.

@Jack-mj2bs

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. What do you work in

Your Cayman generation comparison video was what pushed me over the edge into buying my first Porsche - a 987.1 Cayman. Thanks for showing these cars some love!

@brandonsever2576

2 жыл бұрын

How do you like it? I was so close to buying one but couldn't seem to find the spec I wanted before the market went crazy :(

@drewfisher8461

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonsever2576 I love it! I've had a lot of other built /fast cars, but the cayman is pretty perfect right from the start - and it's a base model. Flew up to Seattle and drove it down the PCH and back to NM...

@brandonsever2576

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewfisher8461 if it's a manual, do you find the gearing to be too long? That's the only complaint I think I might have with those cars but I've never driven one so I don't know

@andreww5006

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonsever2576 gearing does feel a bit long but I've had to adjust my driving technique and utilizing first gear more than I have with others. My 987.1 S has sport mode and makes heel toeing easier imo so I wouldn't fret about gearing.

@drewfisher8461

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreww5006 totally agree, although I think it's more noticeable in the six speed on the S cars. The base feels like you can use all the gears, which is nice - and doesn't feel under powered at all.

981 caymans are the perfect car, on track, road trips, daily driver - they are excellent in all situations. the number of people i have had say how much they love it even with 4000 miles of road trip grime on it is unreal, so many comments about how it must be so much fun (it is). I'll drive mine till they tell me it can't be repaired or they stop selling gas.

Well said! I have a 981 cayman S and words can't explain how satisfying it is to drive to the track, beat the crap out of the car, drive back home, and then drive to work the next day. To this day I still spend a few minutes looking at the car before I head in.

981 is the best sound Porsche ever!

Paul, you did great job articulating what the car makes me feel. I do own pretty much the same car, 2015 Cayman GTS with PDK, in Carmine Red. I spec'ed it and went all the way to Zuffenhausen to pick up. It's been 9 years. I can not believe it. Still every time I drive the car, it gives me from ear to ear. I can not wait to drive it next time. When I do drive the car, I mean it. I have enjoyed a lot of autocrossing. Since 2021 I have been tracking the car. Last year I had 15 track days. I feel so good about making use of the car as Porsche meant. Though I thought of replacing it by other Porsche, I have been having a hard time. You know exactly what I am going through. Thank you for sharing your experience.

It's one pedal shy of greatness.

My GT3 is also a 2015. I have the same technological and interior quirks that you do, the cabins are very similar. I feel so much the same way as you do about your car as I do about mine. It's truly a reflection on the astounding care and attention Porsche puts into all their cars.

I just took delivery of a new 718 Cayman S(first Porsche) that I specced myself and after only driving it 1000 miles, I share the same exact sentiments as you. I think it's my forever car.

What a wonderful portrayl of not only the car but what you love about the car...the relationship, the connection. Well done, Paul!!!

Absolutely magnificent car, the 981 GTS is one of a kind, I had them (GTS)s since 2017 PDK car first then I swapped it for a manual high spec car it even got better, never thought of selling it, it is a keeper, I totally agree the 981 lines are just perfect, they don't make anything like them anymore.

I enjoy my 981 GTS very much. Mine is spec'd with 6MT, X73, PTV, nav, and GTS interior package with the 18 way sport plus seats. I've done 19 HPDE days in my 19 months of ownership, with some events as far as 800 miles from my home. The car is wonderful on track, even in the rain, and driving from my home to events is comfortable. I've ridden in Caymans with the LWB seats and my 66-year old back would not be happy in those seats. Consumable costs are reasonable - just new pads periodically (I'm on my 3rd set of race pads), oil changes after every 6 HPDE days, and I'm on my second set of 200TW tires. Shortly after buying the car I bought some used 19" HRE wheels from a friend, so the 20's stay in my garage. This car is a keeper.

Thank you Paul for putting together 3 fantastic heart felt videos on the Cayman 981 GTS. They surely helped me decide to buy mine, and 3 weeks into ownership I'm beginning to relate to your experiences each time I sit behind the wheel. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to create such valuable content 👌

Every time I park my 981 and walk away as I press the lock tab on the remote and hear the pleasant chirp of the horn, I have to turn around and look at it and this wave of complete satisfaction washes over me. They are just amazing machines.

This perfectly epitomizes why we drive.

Great recap Paul. I’ve had the same thoughts about selling my 2015 Boxster S when it’s sitting in the garage, but then I drive it and the thoughts quickly go away. Every time I get done driving I have a smile on my face.

Hey Paul, you summarised it really well...practical, relatively affordable, and BEAUTIFUL car. 👍🏻

This channel helped push me over the edge to get a 2015 981S a year ago, never think about being in anything else. Good stuff

My dream car!! Love these long term owner videos!

I love my 981 GTS for the way that it never fails to bring a smile to my face, makes me laugh out loud at how effortlessly it goes around corners, and at how beautifully it does everything that you expect a true sports car to do, and more. The sound is superb. The only complaint that I have is that I have annoying rattles in the interior at the rear which are incredibly hard to nail down. Otherwise I agree totally with your comments.

@Kiwisilverfox106

Жыл бұрын

If it doesn’t rattle at the rear, is it really a cayman? We all know what you mean 😂

Very nice video, I have a 2014 “base” 2.7 981, fun car, and once the revs are up plenty of power and that exhaust note is just glorious!

As a 981 GTS owner myself, the best part of this car is that I know it'll usually appreciate in value, and how low maintenance it is considering it's a porsche. Also, the flat 6 sound is just so good!!

@laetussanta

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. I think that the Porche 718 GTS 4.0 is a competitor for the 981 GTS..

@ronnie7061

Жыл бұрын

@@laetussanta your reply makes no sense to my comment

@laetussanta

Жыл бұрын

@@ronnie7061 you wrote that this car will appreciate in value. I don't think so, because as time goes, more 718gts 4.0 wil be in the market (at lower prices than NOW), and so the price on 981 gts will be lower

@joshuaabdelshaid

Жыл бұрын

981 GTS will appreciate. It’s the last raw cayman aside from the gt4rs or gt4

@joshuaabdelshaid

Жыл бұрын

I am a 981 GTS owner as well

I absolutely love long term updates. This one was solid. Great video.

I am driving the 981 Boxster GTS for 5 years. Such a great car, I am loving it since day one and every day I am driving it (my 2nd car) it's falling in love again and again🤩😎

Probably one of the best Porsches made, great blend of HP/torque, sound, feel and comfort. With PTV its super sharp as well. Outside of the GT division cars, modern 911s (991.2/992) feel large, torquey and just like many more expensive twin turbo cars comfortable, fast but lacking an emotional connection. The advantage of the 981 GTS, especially with PTV, is you can wring its neck and have loads of fun without the stupid factor of much higher HP/torque cars.

Sapphire blue metallic never gets old 👌

I raced a red 981 Cayman GTS at Speedvegas and it blew my mind. Still to this day the best car I have ever driven.

Future classic. Underappreciated sound - much better than any of the pre-RS 718 trims - and more performance potential than people realize. A skilled driver can bother GT3s on track, autocross, etc. :). Glad you've kept yours so long, I've still got mine and short of that GT3 or a GT4 RS, I don't see myself ever letting it go.

I love my cayman 981 GTS there is nothing like it for making you feel alive

Wonderful! I love your presentations, Paul. I feel like you’re speaking to me directly. Maybe that’s the car I need to get, too.

The 981 GTS is an ABSOLUTE blast to drive!! I bought mine in 2015 with 4K+ miles and I just hit 66K and its one of a few cars I have and not a daily driver. I also drive it like I stole it. I went looking for a used 2015 Carrera S and when I got to the dealership the car had been sold. Feeling it wasnt meant to be I told my wife it was ok I would just wait a few years as our boys were about to head out to college. We've had so much fun with this car I feel it has to remain in the family. I am glad to hear you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. Absolutely fantastic car in every aspect. Thanks for your videos!!

I also have a 2015 gts. Not getting rid of it anytime soon. Great content. Thank you.

Paul, I bought my 981 Boxster GTS brand new in 2015 (my wife and I ordered it to our spec). We still own it, and my experience is much the same as yours. 7 years later, and there are other cars that tempt me. I have a feeling a C8 Z06 will finally get me out of this car, but failing this, this thing is brilliant.

@rembo183

2 жыл бұрын

The pricing now is insane. I’d keep one that was purchased earlier especially a 981. New GTS models are selling well over $100k with just several options. Dealers are adding on high market adjustments! (Sometimes $30-40k)

Awesome. Thank you Paul. The 20in wheels balance the design out so well. The 911 is my cul de sac car but you’re making me want a Cayman!

i watched your first video on the 981 gts cayman & fell in love with the colour! so much so I waited & waited until I found THE one!, many thanks for pointing me to the best car/colour combination - I've owned a 987s & 981 base {colbart blue & sapphire blue} this is the best car I have ever owned. thank you for converting me

I’ve owned my 981 GTS for 9 months now and echo your sentiments. Especially the hard driving aspect, cornering and the noise. I keep toying with so many other Porsches given the click is ticking on combustion and everything says I need to own a 964, 993, 997.1 gt3 etc, but then I drive the 981 again and it just keeps saying it’s the only car I’ll ever need.

I feel the same way about my Honda S2000. The driving experience is like nothing else.

@ForgetfulFoot

2 жыл бұрын

Its a shame a low mileage 987 or 987.2 Cayman with a manual is the same price as the S2K now. I just cant justify buying one now.

@jklok

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 981 Cayman S and just had a chance to drive an AP2 S2000 and boy was that a fun car to drive. I can rev the snot out of that thing in 1st to 2nd gear and I’m barely broken the speed limit. Such a fun car

I laughed hard when Paul said: "after listening to that sound I need a cigarette" Great video! The car lines are definately beautiful from any view. My 1995 Porsche 911 (993) cabriolet doesn't have a usb port, nav, backup camera, etc., but it is 100% fun and that's why I love my analog 993. Cheers! 😀

One of the nicest examples of a Cayman I’ve ever seen. Now I know which model year to look for.

8:50. Fantastic point, it’s been a while since I’ve watched a video on this channel. This episode has reminded me why I remained subscribed. Sublime content, my friends. I and my 21 Camaro SS M6 agree wholeheartedly.

@EverydayDriver

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, John. Your support is greatly appreciated. Paul

For some reason I thought you had sold this car. Really glad you kept it and looking forward to watching this video.

Paul, you hit it on the head. Porsche nailed it with the 981 GTS. The OEM PSE is out of this world as is the styling. A semi-exotic but in Carmine Red I see all the exotic guys take a look when I drive by. That Sapphire Blue is a head turner as well.

I've driven the 987 Boxster S, the 981 Cayman S and a base 718 Cayman. They're all so much fun, but I loved the 718 the most. Just everything about it, even the flat 4 turbo. Always make your own experiences. I hope I'll find a used 718 when prices get back to normal. Awesome cars 👌

I've always been a Cayman fan. This one looks great and like a lot of fun! That's crazy how it eats through those Pilot Sports on Track days.

Excellent insight on ownership experience of your GTS.

Man watched you 10 years ago. Glad I re found you

@EverydayDriver

Жыл бұрын

We’ve been here and elsewhere consistently since 2007. Thrilled you found us again. Thanks for watching!

Hi Paul, love the content you all consistently produce, well done to the team. I've always desired a cayman, but they have always been out of reach. However, 2007/8 987 2.7litre models (approx 60k miles) have come down in price in Australia to be just a little dearer than a new 2022 GR86. This poses quite a dilemma as they have similar power/weight and both good handling cars. Now that you own a GR86, perhaps you could do a comparison. 15 year old cayman vs new GR86 as a weekend car with occasional track use from one perspective and daily as another. Appreciate any comments you have on the subject. Cheers.

Nice to see a long termer video, please keep it and put 200, 000 miles on the clock and document the journey. If I can ever afford one, I’m going to drive put as many miles on it as possible, and film it.

Such a cool thing to still be enamored with your car after six years and so many other driving experiences.

I am so glad I've gotten time in this car. I love it.

Great video as always. You can make a video driving a Prius and it would be entertaining. I’m looking into the 981GTS and the Boxster 981 GTS.

I have a PDK 981 S that's someone spec'd with every option but PASM (I miss it. I had it on my old 987.1 MT) and the PSE (but at least I have Sport Chrono) and i feel the same way you do.... I've tracked it, road tripped it and dailied it up to 125k miles. Zero issues. Brakes, tires, oil changes, and plugs.... That's it.

The 981 GTS is a future classic and a great driving car. I have other P cars but the 981 GTS gets me everytime. The PSE on the GTS is tuned differently from future PSE BTW. Even the 718 GTS 4.0 with PSE does not sound the same as the 981 GTS. I have friends with GT3s and GT3 RS and they are surprised by my exhaust sound on road trips.

I have a 981 S in Guards Red (common color I know), but it just looks so amazing. You are right. This car looks great from every angle. I don't doubt the steering is slightly better in the previous generation, but I think the 981 is the first truly great looking Cayman. I had to go outside of Utah to find one with PASM, PSE, Sports Plus, and with a manual. It's incredibly hard to find one with all four of those options that isn't on the other side of the country. I guess I'm getting old and prefer a manual. Straight line speed just isn't as important to me these days as it was drag racing my Mustang GT in high school. I know it isn't as fast as a PDK, but it's still quick, sounds incredible, handles as well as anything out there, and is one of the best all-around sports cars you can drive. I added Fabspeed headers and an FVD Brombacher tune, and the car is nearly perfect. The gearing is a little tall as everyone knows, but it's such an engaging drive to row those gears. I have to admit I've come to love the rev matching. It's cheating a little bit I know, but you are still rowing the gears. Who cares? It works great, and you get a perfect downshift everytime. The best things (as you mentioned) are its reliability and low maintenance. I had a Maserati coupe which was equally as beautiful and had a thunderous Ferrari V8 in it, but it was a maintenance nightmare! The headlights went out while I was on a date, and I had to hold the high beams on the whole time while driving the car. She just looked at me like what a POS car this is. Why didn't we just take my Focus? I kept having to go into the trunk and manually pull the cable to open the fuel hatch. I kept thinking this is ridiculous to be having problems like this. I sold it and bought this Cayman and never looked back. I'm a biased Porsche fan no doubt about it, and I do love the current 911. If we are being honest though, the 911 now (other than a couple trim levels) is a GT car. That's fine, but the Cayman is small and tossable like the 911 used to be. It's the true sports car in the lineup, and has the characteristics that made the 911 famous in the first place. I will say that if you do golf, the 911's extra room is definitely advantageous lol, because getting a regular sized golf bag in a Cayman is a struggle.

@chilliwilli4971

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. I have the same thing in Racing Yellow. Sport Techno 2's from Carrera

What a great piece Paul. I am certain I will always own a Porsche. These cars just offer such phenomenal driver engagement and balance. I've had a 987 boxster S for years, and after installing cayman R suspension it truly became the best sports car as far as driver engagement. However I drove a GT4 and wanted something more serious. Thankfully a manual cayman GTS came into my life, and now sits next to the boxster. What the cayman lacks in steering feel it makes up for with a more motorsport feel and a colorful engine. The front end pales in comparison to the 987, but the rear end of the 981 is better as the PTV shoves your around the corners. Plus the interior feels far more modern and premium. So the best answer to your cayman shoot out is buy as many as you can!

Classic North Scottsdale moment from that owner. PNS has been nothing but pleasant to my and my automotive photography friends.

This a good one here been waiting on it

Brilliant video, exactly why I've done exactly the same. Keeper 👌

My favorite place to drive is the Smoky Mountains. Don't miss the manual transmission at all. PDK is giddy fun in the twisties. Paddle pull = instant power. Makes me laugh it's so fun!

Props on the sneaker-to-paint color matching going on, Paul :)

I'm about to pick up my first Porsche and it's my first sports car and the car of my dreams, I'm so friggin HYPED!!!

Sounded really great, but amazed that the GTS came with base seats.

I got my 981S used from the dealership and the previous owner was like yours. He got a manual and every sport option possible and then added sports exhaust after taking delivery at twice the price as factory. I adore the mid engine layout and have the 4L GTS on order. Two year wait!

@billschlafly4107

2 жыл бұрын

I saw a post in a forum today about a person picking up a new 2022 Lava Orange GTS that was sitting on the show room floor. Don't limit yourself to a single dealership.

I’ve owned a nicely specced PDK 981S for 2 years alongside my 8 year owned 996tt. Wow, what a car it has been.

I owned a VW Golf R with the DSG, the VW version of PDK, and it's an excellent gearbox. I always owned manuals before that and I didn't want to go back to them after owning the DSG.

Well done!!!! Sincerely, you should work in the marketing apartment for Porsche! Well done in explaining the passion of driving and finding an excellent, superb, sports car! Thanks!

Hard car to find even harder to find with out the high sticker now. Had to put this one on the back burner. One of my favorite sweethearts.

@rembo183

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with rarity and general unaffordable nature due to current pricing with crazy dealer markups. Impossible to buy new at MSRP. Used ones are rare and priced like new! Need to wait for better times.

Great car. Sold my 981 Cayman S for a Alfa 4C, and I do miss the manual from time to time (minus the tall gearing), but since I now have a different daily I don't think I'd go back. Driving the Alfa just feels much more of an event than the Cayman did, but for cross country or daily purposes, doesn't compare. Hang on to that beauty until something brings you more joy.

@retrograde11

2 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, what daily do you drive?

@ErxEestlane

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrograde11 A Jeep Gladiator. It covers my housework, dog carrier, and light tow vehicle needs, while providing a fun open air experience with some decent off-road chops. I wish it had a different powertrain, but can't win them all. They really should bring the 392 to the Gladiator.

@retrograde11

2 жыл бұрын

@@ErxEestlane thanks!

I'd have to drive one to be convinced that it's worth getting rid of my 987.1 base 5spd which is so much fun and the steering is perfect!

Nice. Really nice. Underneath I think Paul really wants a Kia Soulroad. 😄. Great video guys. I enjoyed it. Need more engine sound clips. Just sayin.

great video as always :)

Thanks Paul

Porsche. There is no substitute.👌🏽🔥🔥

GTS , but Boxster, same wheels, a bit higher spec but when it comes to the drive hey, they are all the same - just amazing cars and amazing values! Look at the cost for any newer equivalent car... GTS 4.0 prices almost would ask for doubling your initial payment! Double the car? I think not...

This video makes me happy.

I just took delivery of a ‘24 GTS 4.0 - one of the last ICE cars??? And I selected the 911 Turbo wheels that you have. They really enhance the overall look of high performance, that look of fast-even-when-standing-still. :)

any 12v cigarette light type outlet can be converted into a usb port for less than ten dollars.

Congrats. That’s the one I want too. ❤

Glad you are holding onto it!! I remember I bought my 997 a few years ago and after my mechanic gave it a clean bill of health he said great 977 but you should have bought a 981 cayman s or Gts! 🤦‍♂️

I bought my 2015 Cayman 981 GTS with 10k miles as a CPO back in December of 2016. It has been a dream to own and drive. For the last couple of years I thought of a few other cars that I would like to drive and considered selling the GTS but I just can't seem to pull the trigger. There are faster cars for sure but also more expensive. I have this feeling in my gut that if I do sell the GTS I will end up regretting it at some point down the road. So here I am, still driving this beautiful Black Cayman GTS and still smiling every time I get behind the wheel. Life is good! I case you want to know what other cars I have considered here they are and they are mostly other Porsches: the 911 GT3 or Turbo S, a Panamera GTS or Turbo, and the Cayenne GTS or Turbo. An Audi R8 V10. A Mercedes AMG GTR. Oh and of course the Cayman GT4 RS but I can't pay the markups they are asking. All great cars for sure. To bad my $ is capped under 150K right now.

That Is One Sick Carr!

Great video. I dream of driving a Porsche some day. Someday sooner than later I hope.

Amazing engine note

Exterior color is good. Said color on interior accents makes it look so O’Reilleys

I own a base 2022 Cayman. It's only got a 2.0L engine but it's the fastest car I've ever owned. It's also the finest built car that I've ever owned. I hope it holds up for 10-15 years because that's how long I plan to keep it.

Love your video. I own a 981GTS. ABOLUTELY LOVE IT. and I could easily buy a 911.

Love my 981 GT Silver GTS Manual🏁

That ending tho 🔥

Had a '15 Boxster GTS, sold it when I got a '16 Spyder. My comment when asked about it is: "It makes me feel like a better driver than I am." I've always liked Sapphire Blue and love the wheels (I kept them for my Spyder). Mine has the painted louvers too and I literally laughed out loud when I saw the option pricing. 😆

How does this car compare to your GR 86? Is it a comparison you would consider?

Nice video Paul. Hope Todd is okay - this is two in a row without Todd (he wasn't there for the GR Corolla ride along either.)

I love the blue trim, and I permanent (unlike tires)!

Does this car have the X73 factory sport suspension suspension? It makes a big difference.

Definitely a great looking car and I love that color

Excellent ownership summary! These are truly remarkable cars. For those who can't afford it or are not willing to commit so much into a sports car, I wonder how much of the same formula BRZ/GR86 or mx5 offer at fraction of the price?

@graysonfox4159

2 жыл бұрын

I found this the other day because I am in that exact situation. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHetwdZ9aNGTeKw.html

@retrograde11

2 жыл бұрын

@@graysonfox4159 that's a great comparison. I've watched it before and he knows what he's talking about. Like him, going new gr86 vs 12 year old Cayman, I would go new gr86. I understand that these caymans have perception to be very reliable, but it is a 12 year old car, and there would be nuances that would be coming up or that would have to be addressed.

@graysonfox4159

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrograde11 The funny thing is I feel like I still want the Cayman just because it was a better car. When I drove it, it just felt visceral. I'll enjoy the 86 for sure l, especially the reliability and back seats but I think that H6 will always haunt me.

@retrograde11

2 жыл бұрын

@@graysonfox4159 yeah, I hear what you're saying. I think as car enthusiasts, we're always looking for the holly grail, the next best thing and try rationalize our choices. Chances are if you'd have Cayman, and had to fix something, you'd probably be asking why didn't I get a new car. It's kind of like the grass is greener on the other side concept. That's why I just try to focus on which car is going to put bigger smile on my face, meets my lifestyle and forget all else. 🤗

my 2014 Cayman S has USB in the glove box. PCM with BOSE. Love everything about the car except the steering vs my old 987. I love the 360hp of the Softronic Tune, the car is a rocket, no power dips like stock. I have X73 which is low and stiff!

Exactly! You perfectly described my feelings about my PDK 987.2 S!! How do I ever move on?!? 🤣

Oddly your thought here relate to my BRZ in some ways. I think about whether it makes sense, whether something else is more "practical", etc. But when I drive or autocross it all of those thoughts go away.