Living With An EV WITHOUT A Home Charger?
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Thinking about going electric but don't have the means to install your own charger at home? Fear not! This is the case for a huge proportion of EV owners, including our very own Jack Scarlett. In this video, we walk you through the many options available to those looking to run an EV without the luxury of their own personal driveway charger.
00:00 Can it even be done??
2:04 A lifetime sat at rapid chargers?
2:32 On-street charging explained
5:11 Case study: How Jack charges
7:35 No on-street charging near you?
11:45 What happens next?
12:16 How will we charge in the future?
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Don't forget workplace charging Jack. For some people without at-home charging options, they can just charge conveniently in their employer's car park while at work. There are lots of incentives to encourage their employer to install chargers too.
@MattOGormanSmith
Жыл бұрын
The downside there is you're using peak-rate, commercial tariff electricity, unless you're on the night shift or the factory has solar (or is a hydro dam). It's still cheaper than giving you petrol coupons of course.
@dvdglezs
Жыл бұрын
Not all companies allow charging at their sites
@ianrob4760
4 ай бұрын
my company has one a deal with Genie nd 11p kwh for 7kw charging The problem ?? well I WFH ha ha .. just got an EV so will be going in next week to charge up whilst I wait for EV charger at home to be installed
Jack, this video along with Robert's renewable energy videos should be mandatory watching for all local councils and government politicians. Keep spreading the good word!
@cocharger4630
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly it - we're hoping the link to this vid becomes a standard in discussions with councils, fleets, politicians. It's SO needed!
@JackScarlett1
Жыл бұрын
Love that! So much of this stuff seems so ridiculously obvious to those of us who own EVs that it's easy to forget how many people - including some in decision-making positions - aren't clued up on the basics
@halaltrips
Жыл бұрын
What's the renewable energy video? link pls :)
@grahamherbert3612
Жыл бұрын
They're all bust, there's no money left for vanity projects and virtue signalling.
@Brian-om2hh
Жыл бұрын
Agreed Geoff. Some Local Authorities seem completely oblivious to the fact they are eligible to access Government grants to cover much of the cost of installing public charging infrastructure. Plus there are grants available to Local Councils to fund the *complete* install of grids in pavements, to allow charge cables to pass beneath the surface of the pavement, for those who live in properties without a driveway.....
Gotta be honest, if you live in a reasonably dense city, it's not that unusual to have to walk ten minutes to where you parked your car just because parking was hard to find the previous day.
@donpatricio1927
Жыл бұрын
I bought an e-scooter for that. It's always in my trunk and if the parking is "far" away I use it.
@kennystrawnmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@donpatricio1927 Rack to hook a manual bike on also works. Whenever I have to go up to DTLA, that’s how I get around.
@artboymoy
Жыл бұрын
@@donpatricio1927 Brilliant.
@EdouardTavinor
Жыл бұрын
And if you don't have a car but use public transport, you're used to walking 10 minutes to the nearest bus stop or metro station anyway.
@NextNate03
Жыл бұрын
If you live in a rural area, charger is 45+ miles away.
That is such a practical video and clears up one of the most often quoted negatives about EV's "What if you don't have a drive?" Thanks Jack for making this so logical.
@rob5944
Ай бұрын
Really? Forgive me if I say I'm not convinced.
In the Dutch provinces of Noord-Holland, Flevoland, and Utrecht. You can request an on-street charger via MRA-e if there is none within 300 meters of your home or work. (And I'm pretty sure that's possible in other provinces too) With current energy prices, it's even cheaper than charging at home.
@tkskater1
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I can vouch for Gelderland supporting a similar construction as well.
@JackScarlett1
Жыл бұрын
Such a good policy!
We'd like to thank Jack and the Fully Charged crew for this wonderfully balanced, positive and informative video. We are very proud of whgat we've achieved with Co Charger but isn't a silver bullet - there aren't any and this vid hits the real message right on the head: don't let a lack of a home charge point put you off EVs. There are great solutions out there!
I don’t have a driveway, but I just had two 22kw chargers installed right out side my office… all I need now is an electric car 🙂
Great overview with added credibility from Jack’s personal experience. Loved the animation & Jack’s delivery. 👏👏
I live in Australia where the charging infrastructure is rubbish, but even so, not having a home charger (at least in a city) is not a problem. We just shop where we can charge, often for free, so pretty much whenever we’re shopping, we’re charging. That keeps the car topped up pretty well and for very little cost.
Nice to see things like this getting addressed
Jack, I found this to be one of your best vids as a presenter. Sometimes LESS is MORE, you're extremely likable here, and the knowledge you're sharing feels accurate/trustworthy. I hope to see much more of this side of you.
@danielhenderson7050
Жыл бұрын
I liked it too, and I think he has been getting better and better in general. Btw, why doesn't Rob present much anymore? Also i just realized he was in Red Dwarf! 😲
Market chargers are great. 50 kW DC is plenty to recharge an EV during your weekly shopping errands!
I’ve been an EV owner for 3.5 years. We have street lamp based chargers in Portsmouth and Southsea where I live and I have 4 near my home. One of them opposite my home. My EV is my personal car as well as my driving school car. My business relies on it getting charged. Charging on street has been reliable. In a city where off street parking is rare it can be easier getting a charge than parking an ICE car.
@richardnedbalek1968
Жыл бұрын
I wish we had lamp pole chargers in the US. So practical and low-tech, provided you have your own cable.
@dougbamford
Жыл бұрын
@@richardnedbalek1968 Why is that? Is it because of the different voltage in the USA?
@richardnedbalek1968
Жыл бұрын
@@dougbamford No, I charge all the time off my home 120V, 15A outlet. We just haven’t adopted this technique.
@dougbamford
Жыл бұрын
@@richardnedbalek1968 they aren't that common in the UK yet. But hopefully will be soon, since people can request them and they are (relatively) easy to install. I don't suppose there are many areas in the USA that need it since the country is so suburban. But seems necessary for the old cities (NY, Boston, Philly, San Fran).
Thanks for a very helpful video. This is also helpful for those who are holding back from installing a charge point at home until they have actually bought an electric car and need something to tide them over while they wait for theirs to be installed. One thing you could add when do an update video on this is spend a couple of minutes talking about what people who live in blocks of flats with off-street parking can do and what they can suggest to their management company to install. In some cases parking on-street to charge a car could be expensive just for the parking alone - particularly if you have your own off-street parking space which is free (or already paid for).
I Charge out my Kitchen window to a street pole where I attached a stainless steel zip tie and I run my cord through that zip tie and down the pole and across the roof of my car and down into the charge port. When I am all done, all cables get pulled back into my kitchen.
Jack, thanks for sharing your positive experience of owning an all-electric car and charging it regularly without the ability to do so at home.
❤ Awesome 👏🏽 video! I’m from India 🇮🇳 and though our charging network is not yet developed it’s amazing to know this is so easily possible. Most cities here have a parking space problem and this certainly shows how things can work out. I’m sharing this with EVSE OEMs, & CPOs. Thank you! 🙏🏽
This is something that I have been concerned about as someone without a driveway who uses their car for work. As such, I do a lot of miles (around 70 - 100 miles per day). My main concern is that with all the charging networks in the UK being in private hands I would expect the cost of charging to be significantly higher than charging at home. Unfortunately I am going to have to pour some cold water on this guide as road side charging points are very hard to find outside of London. In fact, I have never even seen one.
@0-Will-0
Жыл бұрын
Very true. I live in one of the largest cities in the UK and my nearest street charging is not walking distance from my house. Without a drive I would have to sit around on a fast charger a couple of times a week. Can't complain too much though as currently EVs get free parking in the city center and there's fast chargers there.
@MUFC1933
8 ай бұрын
Must have changed now guys? Heck they’re even in lampposts round out way😮❤
My wife has a Renault Zoe 40, she's had it for two years, we don't have a home charger, we can't even get closer than 20 m from our house, she has covered well over 12,000 miles, roughly costing about £30 max (extra conservative) but she charges at work for using the free public chargers, Easily doable, and she only charges once or maybe twice a week. I'm saving for an MG 5 because I want an estate.
This was a great video for newbies. Love the easy, comical nature of delivery. 👍
9 months and 15000 km in, I can confirm: Yes you can lead a busy EV family life without a socket where we park at home.
@nielsvandenkieboom5034
Жыл бұрын
13 months, 35000 km and a trip through Croatia and Italy included I can confirm the same. Never had range anxiety.
@JackScarlett1
Жыл бұрын
Amen!
I do exactly the same, I have a point A, B & C within 10 minute strolls from my home. And since I do drive a ton of kilometers I use fast chargers quite often. Luckily on my way to work (which can be wherever in the Netherlands) I always cross a lot of fast chargers and if I have a few minutes left before I need to go to work I just pop by a fast charger and give it some extra juice. Btw. In the Netherlands, if you don’t have your own driveway and no public charger within 300 meters of your home the municipality will arrange a public charger for you. So in a couple of months I will have a new (closer) option to charge. Driving an EV does make you plan all your trips a bit more but I really don’t mind doing so. If I can do it (I drive on average 1000 km a week) than everybody can do it. Thanks for the great video once again!
Brilliant video! Answered every question I had and more
Good advice for Londoners! Most of the rest of us are stuck without realistic solutions still.
When I got my EV ~4 years ago, there was minimal charging infrastructure around, and I don't have a garage. So, I was having to either slow charge from a standard power point in my parking lot or walk 10 minutes to a L2 charger (2-3 locations to choose from). TBH, managing it all was a fun game I had to play in my head, but I had the freedom and ability to do it. Since then, local charging infrastructure has come quite a ways, and I now have an L2 charging station in my building. But I can see how this approach could be quite inconvenient and impractical for someone else.
I think the difference is that charging may have to be a more deliberate and planned event instead of what we’ve become accustomed to with ICE and being able to spontaneously fill up.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
I'd say the opposite. Charging will be comparable to parking in a city and paying for parking (or for the old gits, "feeding a meter"). You will just plug in and graze charge when you stop, whenever you stop, without thinking. You will always have to make "a deliberate journey" to fill an ICE.
@colinwiseman
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 exactly. If lots of cars have the contactless charging or even the Sono Sion drip charge via solar, we'll have fleets of cars rarely hitting the forecourts.
@ALMX5DP
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 hopefully in the future it turns out to be that commonplace. But I think right now there is a distinct difference in how one has to go about filling up their vehicle.
@rp9674
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes more convenient sometimes less convenient, always worth it
@DokterRoetker
Жыл бұрын
Depends on location. When on holiday in Italy or France, I really needed an app to search for a charger. But at home in the Netherlands, almost every street has some chargers, my street even has 8 of them for just 2 small blocks. So yeah, charging is more convenient then making a detour to a gas pump.
Thank you Jack. A great summary of the field.
Super cool, thank you for the overview!
Great video, now 4 years no home charging and been fine so far with up to 300 miles a week it’s all possible as long as you want to do it
@cocharger4630
Жыл бұрын
Give Co Charger a go!
I am lucky enough to have a driveway with a charge but currently only have a PHEV (limited options for a 7seater) but I am so excited to find out the Fully Charge Live will be only 5 mins away from me in my home town of Harrogate! Really looking forward to it as I hope to get an EV very soon!
So many new options covered in this clip👏. Well done👍
Thank you Jack. This is super impactful. We need to implement these solutions in USA.
I installed one at my office. It makes a huge difference and other people then bought EV’s
@cocharger4630
Жыл бұрын
That's the way to go! If the office is near a residential area you can also make it a Community Charger out of hours via Co Charger.
The first year I had my Model X, I didn't have my own charger. I just went to a supercharger about once a week. It wasn't a problem at all.
@wolvoman1
Ай бұрын
It would have been when your battery suffers from constant super charging
No driveway here. Sod it, installing Pod Point in porch, will trail cable over pavement and stick a protector over it and charge it later in the evening. Pavement is only 2ft wide anyway. Fortunately no-one else ever parks in front of my house.
Bought my EV 2 weeks ago, don't have my own charger nor can I run a cable for the granny charger, but there's plenty of chargers nearby to me or I'm happy to sit in the car for a while. One of the places I use is a 15 minute walk from my partners flat. It's encouraging me to walk more and I'm enjoying it tbh.
Picking random on street charging points with no allocated space is going to cause rage from residents who hate people parking outside their house or in that spot they regularly use. I can see a lot of vandalism of cables while your car is out of sight streets away.
@sahhull
Жыл бұрын
In areas that have EV's They are cutting and stealing charge cables from cars that are actively charging. Where my buddy lives theres 50 houses, no driveways and 3 street lamps. They often have to park a few streets away.
Currently driving an i3 (company car) and charging it solely at work, kinda helps that my job is designing EV chargers so we have a lot of them at the office to plug into but still... companies with on site parking should all have as many of their parking spaces have EVSEs as possible, will take a huge chunk out of the number of cars that will even need on street parking which'll help the people who cant charge at work as their nearest on street chargers will be more likely free day to day.
This was fab! Thanks mate!
The first two years I had my Model 3 I didn't have home charging, there was a place 2 miles away with a great coffee shop, a gym, and even an aviation museum, I'd hang out at the coffee shop or workout while the car charged, it could be a bit of a hassle, but not terrible.
I’m here a little off topic… we’re trying to build a better world here and that goes for more than just the clean energy transition. Another big step will be Jack and Robert no longer using self deprecating humor ❤️ you’re not idiots, you’re great and you’re doing amazing work!
You may have mentioned this, so if you did sorry I missed it, but the other thing that is becoming more common is provision of chargers at workplaces, so if you can't charge overnight at home, you can charge whilst you are at work during the day.
@JackScarlett1
Жыл бұрын
100%. We need a LOT more of this.
Congrats for your Polestar 2 - I have one, too, and I‘m in the lucky situation to charge at home, with a PV solar roof.
Thanks for your well balanced overview on this topic. I deliberately got into owning an EV without the option of charging at home because I can do it at work and with that it‘s abolutely no problem. The only problems are charging-companies not caring much about maintaining their chargers. When you are on a trip, having a charching stop planned and the chargers aren‘t working, that‘s annoying. Second problem is the hummer boy of my city. Hummer boy and co love to park at charging spots, even if they are EV only. City doesn‘t care much and I‘ve often been in the situation where I just could not charge anywhere near my home because chargers were all blocked by hummer boys. These were the only times I seriously thought about getting rid of my EV, if there is no change of my city looking after this problem. Cheers!
Jack is total eye candy ❤ I don’t own an electric car here in NZ but it’s always good to watch is presentation skills 😊
Nice one Jack. I can't charge at home but did my research on ZapMap and decided to go for it with an ev a few weeks ago. Started off using sip charging at Tesco but we shop so quickly it wasn't really worth the hassle. Then we spent a pleasant Sunday lunchtime in our local Premier Inn with a ginger beer whilst it charged to 80%on their rapid BP Pulse charger. Found that to be very good value once the bp card arrived and discovered we could save money shopping at the Aldi on the same site so it did us a favour in more ways than one. I got so engrossed finding my way round the shop the first time that the car was at 100% by the time I got back. Pleased to report that our Ioniq 38kWh suggested we would get 216 miles on the full charge after four or five weeks driving so we must be doing something right. I'm working on our Green councillors to get a slow charger fitted near to us in the village but they're not having much luck persuading their colleagues as yet. I'm sure it'll happen eventually. Research and persuasive powers are what you need to get charged it seems!
@cocharger4630
Жыл бұрын
Do give Co Charger a look. Even if there's no Host in walking distance from your home (the chances are pretty good that there is) you can set up a free account in a couple of minutes and get notified when a Host sets up nearby.
@judebrown4103
Жыл бұрын
@@cocharger4630 thanks, I will. At one stage I did have the app on my old phone but as I hadn't got an ev at that point and my phone was needing space I had to uninstall it. 👍
Good video but you missed the portable home charger that can give you a quick charge
Great, personal insight in to charging without home access, Jack - that was really good of you to allow the FC audience a small peek in to your world. 😇 Interestingly, whilst I wasn't exactly enamoured to hear, recently, of my local Council's permission for a 70-house estate to be built a few 100 yards from my doorstep, in reading their planning agreement with the developer, I was at least pleased to see that all 70 homes are to have "one dedicated 3.5kW charger per dwelling". They don't get a lot 'right', our lot, but hats off to them for that...! 😉
One major problem with on street charging, is that some of the kids where I live think it's a great laugh to unplug cars which are charging during the night, so you would wake up to a car that hadn't been charged. Is there a standardised way to lock the charge cable onto the charge sockets so you can only remove it if you have a key? If not, it could be a good idea for a standard lock to be designed.
@ramblerandy2397
Жыл бұрын
When a car is charging the plug [plugs for untethered chargers] is locked into the socket. New EV owners probably have more issues getting the plug out of the socket than any other problem until they find out the correct procedure. Read the manual or watch an appropriate KZread video.
@MrJozza65
Жыл бұрын
@@ramblerandy2397 True, although if there isn't a key involved, kids round here will have learnt how to do it.
@sahhull
Жыл бұрын
@@MrJozza65 Theres also the folks who cut and steal the live cable as the car is charging.
As always Jack - enjoyable and informative. I live in a city in Canada (Toronto) and our public network is an omnishambles. 1 DC fast charger exists within 5 km of my home. And maybe 10 level 2 chargers - but you have to hunt them. BUT even with this paltry situation I can find the electricity I need (and retain the electric smug).
@Kvickification
Жыл бұрын
Same in Gothenburg Sweden.
@quixomega
Жыл бұрын
I also live in Toronto, the situation here is so bad I decided it wasn't feasible to buy an EV since I cannot charge at home so I bought a hybrid for now.
@bm8641
Жыл бұрын
Toronto Hydro is subordinated to the City Hall .... You have what you vote
@AdamPearce
Жыл бұрын
@@quixomega I'm not sure it is so bad that one has to default to a hybrid but i understand the temptation. Looking at the map you can see how the chargers are almost exclusively pooled in the downtown core. In some ways this makes sense for commuters coming from out of the city - but if you live in a condo in outside the core, or you street park - this could be a very frustrating situation. Without a doubt we need to do better with the charging infrastructure.
@AdamPearce
Жыл бұрын
@@bm8641 unclear what you mean here. Why would hydro object to chargers? Why would city hall (especially if linked to the existing infrastructure)?
Good one, love all that info. 👍
You live in London and have a Polestar 2? Seen that video where Robert describes driving around London in a barge/supertanker sized car even if it is an EV, as something not good! I also like how a lot of these solutions are London centric, maybe go up North to some of the poor communities? Or try here in Wrexham, where many of the public chargers are knackered most days or way too expensive, so everyone goes to Tesco and sometimes it's rammed! Loving that idea with the groove for the cable!
I was ok like jack until the explosion in numbers of company car EVs last year with massive batteries and then it became near impossible to find a charger and I went back to a diesel after 1.5 years of EV ownership - depends where you live but it was completely unmanageable for me
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
As a "company car driver" (mobile technician) most mileage is not near what would be classed as "EV exclusive" parking. It's from/ to the customer, on motorway or trunk roads, then parking on customer premises. Those of us who do work in a city either use public transport or won't need to charge due to the reduced mileage. I would suggest the "McCharge" type infrastructure is where most business loading would occur (other fast food charging will be available....) . EDIT Just to say... "The cars with massive batteries" won't need to charge.
Brilliant and really helpful in trying to bring co-workers into the EV world. Thanks!
Great info. I've been driving electric for over 5 years with no home chargers.
Great video and yes, it can be done...We live in the south of France, and don't have a way to charge in in our parking area. There are three public chargers fairly close to our home: 1) at the train station, a ten min walk. 2) at the grocery store (LeClerc) which is about 20 min walk. 3) at grocery store (LIDL) which is 20 min walk. LIDL charges per kWh. LeClerc gives the first 15 minutes free at their charger, then you pay by kWh. The train station charges per minute (which is bad, as it takes twice as long if another car is plugged in). Needless to say, we choose LeClerc and we do most of our weekly shopping there. We don't often have to sit and wait, the charge while shopping is sufficient for our general driving pattern. It's good marketing on their part. We've had our EV for over a year and this has worked out fine for us.
Yep, I charge without my own home charger using the public network. Charging cost outside my house on a Ubitricity charger when I ordered my Tesla in March was 0.22p kWh. I finally got the Tesla delivered last month, and yesterday the price to charge increased to 0.55p kWh. Its a 5kW charger as well, so it's pretty slow but now the price difference between a 250kW and 5kW charger isn't that different.
@NealeUpstone
Жыл бұрын
FYI. kWh is the total energy delivered. kW is the power - the rate the energy is delivered. So it's 0.22p/kWh (energy) and your battery has a capacity of e.g. 55kWh or 80kWh. The chargers have a rate: 250kW or 5kW. Hope that helps. You could think if it as: kWh is like gallons. kW is like gallons per minute, and also like horsepower.
@t3chnno
Жыл бұрын
Ubitricity charges are a ridiculous since the start of October.
@Techtonicuk
Жыл бұрын
@@t3chnno Might as well just charge at Shell Recharge locations or at a Tesla supercharger. Ubitricity is just going up and up, I think it went up to 49p last month, and now to 55p so quickly.
@Techtonicuk
Жыл бұрын
@@NealeUpstone thanks for the explanation.
@Tresla
Жыл бұрын
That's still eye-wateringly high. You're paying about the same as you would if you owned a petrol car.
I live in Denmark. First 1.5 years of owning an EV I didnt have my own charger. I needed to charge 1-2 times a week. Had several options: charging at work, rapid charging at a local supermarket, or using a couple of slow chargers 1 km away. Not once did I need juice for my car in that period. That being said I love having my own charger now 😆
@phiiz3r
Жыл бұрын
Yeah for those that drive to work or somewhere they will be for a while, that opens up another area to look for places to slow charge.
@cangaroojack
Жыл бұрын
This maybe a very sumb question, but let's say i park my car near a charging pole and let it charge overnight, is there some mechanism to prevent someone from unplugging the car?
Great video! Really important to spreading credible info that solves problems.
Thanks for making it simple
Thanks for this - I've an EV on order and no driveway; I still have moments when I think I'm crazy but I'll work it out. PS what did you do with Robert - stealing his office and all (and yes I know it's a green screen)?
@rp9674
Жыл бұрын
I would do it. Crazy like a fox, hungry like the wolf.
@emu3545
Ай бұрын
How did it go? Was it doable?
I charge my car on a 50 kW unit while i walk my dog
@pjeaton58
2 ай бұрын
Get your dog to tow the car while on re-gen, charges car and exercises dog all for the cost of a can of dog food ! PS you will need a 50 Kw dog !
Brilliant as always, Jack!
A very nice guide 👍😀
Welcome to the new normal, its not like i.c.e owners have gas stations in their garage
@6chhelipilot
Жыл бұрын
No, but they are always within range and are more plentiful. Electric charging in the UK is woeful.
@bellshooter
Жыл бұрын
@@6chhelipilot I disagree, it's not great but go to Spain for woeful! I have multiple Rapid and standard chargers within a couple of miles, at 3 or 4 supermarkets I often use, at a pub/restaurant , and at a local car park near many amenities...
@kennystrawnmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@bellshooter Same here in California. There are 10+ rapid charging stations within 5 miles of me, including a multi-stall EA station at the Target in Rancho Santa Margarita and a Tesla Supercharger at the Shops at Mission Viejo. About half as many as there are gas stations and 3 times as many as there are hydrogen stations (which I currently use).
@RupertReynolds1962
Жыл бұрын
@@6chhelipilot Woeful some in places, perhaps. Around Kendal there are chargers at several supermarkets, and even one by the register office. At Sainsburglary there are two Podpoint 7kW chargers, and all the rest are faster. I don't often see all the chargers in use at any one spot.
@RPRosen-ki2fk
Жыл бұрын
@@kennystrawnmusic Whatever possessed you to go hydrogen?
Is workplace charging not common enough?
@bellshooter
Жыл бұрын
Not for us Pensioners! 🤣
@laloajuria4678
Жыл бұрын
nonexistent.
@kennystrawnmusic
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work for those of us whose office IS their car. Food delivery drivers for services like DoorDash and Uber Eats (case in point: yours truly) are of course cases in point on that front.
@rjmunro
Жыл бұрын
It certainly exists. My brother mostly charges his car at his work car park. He works at an Amazon warehouse, and they have something like 100 chargers in their car park, with the electric connections to add more as more employees need them,
@TimMoore1
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Some workplaces are threatening staff just for charging their phones in the office! 😄
We‘ve been using public on the street charging in Cologne, Germany since mid December 2021. Works fine as does the Ionity network when traveling.
Warwickshire County Council has started a six month trial for kerbside home charging. We joined the trial yesterday and have already done our first charge. We usually need to charge once or twice weekly so we should be able to ensure that our car is in front of the house when needed. Oh, we do not have a charger as such but we have a 16 amp charger with a 10 metre lead and an appropriate socket on the front of the house. Using cheap overnight electricity will work for us.
I live in London with pretty much the same option and the difference in cost of the different options is huge. The cheapest overnight rate if I can charge from a home charger is less than 10p per kWh, ubitricity from the lamppost is 50p and the big source London chargers are 59p if you pay the monthly membership -
conveniently, in New Zealand, nearly all chargers are located at supermarkets, restaurants and shopping malls, so just charge on your weekly shopping :)
I have had an EV for 18 months .If you dont dont further than range its easy but if you do it is a nightmare unless you get a car with 250 miles real range and DC fast charging. dont forget if its too hot,too cold,raining,windy or uphill you range will be reduced. i have a ZE40 with a real range of approx 150 miles and i recently went to edinburgh-it was a living hell. 1.charge to full before we set off - usual charger in use so wasted time going to plan b 2.charged half way on M6 (couldnt be arsed to come off the motorway) that was over an hour due to my partner panicing that we wouldnt get on another charger. 3.charged in scotland (10 miles to go with onlly 25 showing and panic set in again) 4.charged in scotland. i must say their infrastructure is miles better than UK. mostly free or 0.30p pkw. 22AC chargers everywhere 5.charged on m6 coming home - over an hour once again 6.charged on lidl pod point at home town- low battery and needed shopping took over 6 hours so 2 extra hour each way If you have a home charger you set off full and only need enough charge to get home.instanly removing 2/3 charges.If you got £50k+ to get an ev with decent range and more imprtantly DC charging then cool if not wait i would wait a few years. i move house in a month and cant wait i bought a charger 2 months ago....
Very helpful and interesting video. Some great innovative ideas out there too. One thing that worries me though is increasing cable theft. I don't leave my car when charging anywhere that other people have access too, public stations or overnight. Good work.
My work buddy lives in a development behind the Nissan dealership where he and his wife bought their Leaf. He walks 2 miles over the course of the work day, she has a sitting job so she likes to take a walk before and after dinner. She'll drive a block or so to the dealer, plug the car in on their charger (free for customers) and walk home, reverse and repeat after dinner.
Short and sweet (not Jack obvs, who could never be accused of being short!), and full of useful thought-provoking information. Fabby McFab.
I think a big omission was to not state the obvious (to EV owners) that you don't need to charge every night, which many think is the case. This makes running an EV without off street parking even easier. You do mention it in passing that you rarely use the car's full charge in a day, but this point is lost on those new to EV. I do like the premise of it being easy to live with, so well done for highlighting it and backing it up with personal experience.
Great idea for a video - this should provide people living in cities with the reassurance they need that electric car ownership is viable. My only comment was that Jack used the acronym OEM at one point and few people will know what that means.
Great vid. It's a no-brainer that connectivity of power will become huge in the next 20 years. Everything will be electric, which means everything and everyone can trade and sell power (if you make it, you can sell it - but taxes will always apply). Your families, your neighbour, your local shop, your school, your business, your council, the grid will see a constant flow of power in and out. Every country will need more electricians and even more programmers!
Great video. I have no home charge for my EV but i get along fine. One anecdote, i found several ubitricity lamposts vandalised, i presume to stop people charging all day/night in their favoured parking spot. Nimby's are alive and kicking.
When we first got a Leaf, we lived in Atlanta. Never really paid to charge, as all of our apartments either had level 2 chargers in the garage (paid monthly fee to park anyway), or eventually we just would trickle charge from a regular outlet in the parking garage. On top of that, nearly everywhere we regularly went had free level 2 chargers; the mall, the food court, the museum, Whole Foods... all for free. When we moved to Colorado, we noticed a sharp fall-off in free public chargers. There is one in the park two minutes walk from here, but we've never used it because we installed one in our garage. It's been interesting to talk about charger availability with locals, since they maybe assume there aren't any. In reality, everyone has a garage, and our utility company will pay half the cost of a charger installed (up to $1,000). It's two sides of a specific coin, and not representative of major first world cities (ATL doesn't count LOL), so hopefully more of the street-light chargers pop up. It is fascinating to see the situation unfold over the years.
This is such an important video.
There's even more possibilities as well, like for example charging at your work or plugging in to fastcharger when eating lunch
Thanks. Jim Bell (Australia)
Some really cool services I haven't heard of until now. I hope they catch on and spread!
Loved the Kryton head / molds 👍🏻
Great video and very useful ideas and advice. I did a Belgium-France trip this year. Initially I planned stops at high speed chargers at service stations but then I realized I could find public chargers on streets and in city center car parks and charge overnight whilst sleeping in the local hotel a lower cost. I was always was able to find a charger in small northern France and Belgium towns (though sometimes there would be one out of order!).
Try asking the question that I did at work - "Can we have a charger installed here?" 4 months later there were two Zappi Type 2 chargers [sorry "EVSE" equipment for the proper name] installed. It cost the company nothing, via govt grant, and charging is free. Btw, I'm not an executive, nor on the board. Just an ordinary employee. I don't have a driveway. So try asking. If they refuse you're no worse off than if you hadn't asked. I have been emailing my Southampton city council for the best part of 5 years, to try to get residential EVSEs. We have residential car parks where I live. One or two per car park, linked to one's electricity account, would entirely solve the problem. Will they do it or something like it? Not a chance in hell. I'm told to drive into the city centre 5 miles away and charge there. Good eh? Thank goodness for the company I work for.
Great video, thanks! I'm renting in Australia and have a driveway so I just use an extension cord to charge my Tesla at home in off-peak times.
Quite a few supermarkets in the UK have EV charging. Charge whilst you shop.
Have you ever wondered about this scenario where, right now Governments all over the world get tax revenues out of the fuel sales to the general public, and that amount is huge in some countries, and when more and more people switch to EV gradually the revenue from fuel sales would decrease and then would come to a point where the Govt starts to increase the electricity cost to balance the revenue loss from fuel. And maybe in my worst nightmare, it may become like charging an EV would cost similar to having an ICE vehicle and filling it with fuel. However if we use Solar panels at Home some of the cost can be managed, but we will still end up using outside chargers often though !!
I've had an EV for three years and live in a flat. Within 4 minute walk there is a carpark with 3x50Kw, 2x22Kw and 3x7Kw chargers all free (ChargePlaceScotland). Within a 2 minute walk there is a Tesco with 4x7Kw Pod Point chargers all free, but only 3 hours parking. I live in a small town 9000 population and I've no issue without a home charger, not only that, I've never spent a single penny to charge!
One thing you didn’t cover is cost. Charging at home overnight is 7.5p an hour. The public chargers in Hackney are 8x the cost. It’s an insane disparity that makes or breaks ev ownership.
don't know if anyone is doing this yet but I think the tech for it is around the corner. It would work similar to Charge Fairy but it would be a drone that could self drive to your location and park in front of your vehicle, slide a wireless charger under your car, charge it and go to the next stop or back to it's base to recharge. I imagine each could serve a specific neighborhood or small town. Neither the car owner or a tech would need to be present for the charge. You would order a charge through an app. If the drone was tall and slim it could just park in the same parking spot and if it could maneuver sideways the drone may even be able to fit between cars parked closely on the street.
One word of caution for the "charge near home" idea. If you live in an area where parking is expensive, you will likely have to pay for parking to access the charger - even if the charger itself is cheap or free - and the parking fees can make charging considerably more expensive than gas/diesel if you're not careful. This is especially true if you are already paying a monthly parking fee for home parking without charging, and the sole value to you of the $5/hour parking garage is access to the charger. In many cases, the best place for a city dweller to charge is actually in the suburbs (but by attaching charging to a trip you're making anyway, not making a special trip, just to charge). Rapid charging may seem more expensive than level 2 charging, but if you're not paying for the parking space, it can be quite often considerably cheaper.
Great video. I wish some of this was happening in Australia.
@cocharger4630
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Co Charger is aiming to launch in other countries quickly, so watch this space!
Here in Vienna, we are lucky to have a very high density of public 11 kW on-street chargers. I have three chargers with two dedicated spaces each within five minutes walking distance. I have been quite happy with that for the last 18 months or so, no need for a charger of my own at all.
That curbo idea is amazing. Thats the perfect solution for someone who's house is close to the pavement.
Here, a supermarket has free 2kw outlets for electrical cars, for while you are shopping, you will not fill up, but you will get back the energy you lost by driving there to shop and come out to a warm car in the winter. There is also fastchargers there, but they are not free.
I had a couple chargers in front of my home in Amsterdam, and now I have a couple more in front of my new house in The Hague. Also, there's a bunch of chargers at work as well. So yeah, I don't need my own charger, just like I never needed my own gas station at home
This is my first time hearing light post charger, this makes EV charging much more accessible. This option should get more publication.
solar kit for your ev roof?