If you don’t like the outcome, Settle it in Smash!!

@bradhedgehog12

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy here we go. But my opinion still stands. I hope Link Wins again....but on the other Hand if Cloud wins the That makes them even. There both my main fighters of Smash Bros Anyways. Cloud can be worthy to Defeat Ganon though as proof as I did as Cloud taking on OOT Ganon Adventure mode Hardest lvl there is

@standard1703

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradhedgehog12 in terms of sheer strength and speed Cloud definitely wins, but Link has tons of tools. Both are great innovators and can think on their toes. I think the only thing that Link has over Cloud is a strong willpower and confidence in himself and his capabilities, and a shield. Since these guys use in-game stats and not story canon I know for a fact Link is still gonna be buffed wayy up and Cloud is gonna get nerfed, but regardless of the winner the fight will still be entertaining. Cloud and Link are both long time favorites so I could be satisfied with either winner

@bradhedgehog12

2 жыл бұрын

@@standard1703 Agree. Both boys again are my Main Smash Bro Fighters. And I think They make a good team.

@chhaysour5241

2 жыл бұрын

Wario vs King Dedede in a nutshell.

@nooder0ni

2 жыл бұрын

@@standard1703 Link also has the experience going for him. Like, by a LOT. Remember, he's basically the same soul being forced to reincarnate over multiple generations just to thwart the plans of literal Gods and Demons(and beat the ever living crap outta them, too). He ain't no ordinary fairy, boi.

Yo Dai here, one of the animators for this Deathbattle. Wanna thank the Deathbattle team for allowing us to animate this rematch using Blender. It was one of the hardest projects I've ever worked on, but it was worth it. Hope you guys like more what the Blender team has in store.

@TheLaserLordLOL

2 жыл бұрын

You guys did amazing!

@KlyntarNage666

2 жыл бұрын

Props to you for the amazing animation

@juubi249

2 жыл бұрын

You did an absolutely fantastic job with this, thank you so much!

@onboro7707

2 жыл бұрын

Here to tell you that that fight was amazing! So intense, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, especially towards the end!

@Sean_Bird

2 жыл бұрын

You guys made a great battle!

Link pausing to break all the pots has me weak in the knees it’s too funny and too accurate

@Chromaray

7 ай бұрын

I think I heard a heart sound effect so it's like breaking all the containers in a boss room.

@thundergaming155

Ай бұрын

Or pots under the gandorf arena in ocarina of time.

The fact that Cloud cares about that garden pot more than Link makes me laugh everytime

@CloudStrife8894

6 ай бұрын

Here's the thing with the pots though, Those pots and this is true because those pots belong to a close friend of mine that was killed by the hands of sephiroth.

@worldscoolestperson7672

5 ай бұрын

@CloudStrife8894 thats rough, buddy.

@matheusdiefenthaeler5342

3 ай бұрын

Oh Link probably care about these pots more than Cloud, just not in the way Cloud expected ...

Cloud: *rides motorcycle* Link: "and I took that personally"

@Jorgito-zq5iu

2 жыл бұрын

Fr my man was chilling

@quirinkanada2111

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud took it personal when he started breaking the pots

@teddlo9669

2 жыл бұрын

*More like:* *Link:* "Hup. Hiya! HAIYA!"

@xheralt

2 жыл бұрын

How in the hell did Link end up with a 300hp "horse", and when did he learn how to drive?

@tinywomanhours

2 жыл бұрын

@Yol Riin Lask pretentious much?

I don't know about anyone else, but I am totally convinced that Link started this fight just because Cloud was going five miles over the speed limit.

@sanbi221

2 жыл бұрын

And Cloud finished it because Link broke those pots.

@cormchaos2810

2 жыл бұрын

I died laughing. Why is that so true tbh 😂

@foxshock5571

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, this is a prequel of Super Smash Bros. It show how Cloud got in Smash.

@thedarkoracle4807

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxshock5571 Does Link remember events from his past life, or is each Link effectively a new character?

@zanelebushgenie270

2 жыл бұрын

@@thedarkoracle4807 every link is a new person

Can we admit that Fierce Deity Link stomping towards Cloud was terrifying.

@matheusdiefenthaeler5342

Жыл бұрын

Not so much when Cloud look at him with a "I don't care" face and dodge a giant bounder casually... But the Fierce Deity form is very cool

@lelandholmquist2467

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342If I remember correctly it turns him into a literal god at least as close to one as possible.

@matheusdiefenthaeler5342

11 ай бұрын

​@@lelandholmquist2467 right, it does turn him into a god, but as every game, series, movies and cartoons shows to us is that gods are subjective, different in every world, and the ones in Legend of Zelda... well... you can easily picture all of them dying...

@noabsolutelynot3660

11 ай бұрын

​@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Not really. The only gods we've actually seen in Zelda are FD, Hylia and the Golden ones. The Golden ones are many times the power of the triforce, Hylia only seems weak because she had to reincarnate in Mortal form, and Fierce Deity is a planet buster at *least*

@nori87

10 ай бұрын

nah

I'd love to see this fight again now that Link has Tears of the Kingdom to draw on. Mechs aren't on par with summons but it'd still be fun to see Bahamut and ToTK mechs trading lasers, at least until the mech's batteries ran out.

@themonkeyman2910

6 ай бұрын

Cloud when Link builds a floating mass of beam emmitters and construct heads:

@TheBenchLord

4 ай бұрын

​@@themonkeyman2910Can't wait for Link vs Cloud 3 when Link pulls out a Gundam

@wickian9571

2 ай бұрын

I get that they take everything from the media of the characters at face value to try and keep things "fair", but taking the Super Nova at face value and scaling Cloud to that level of durability(capable of tanking an actual super nova and then standing back up and dusting himself off) is just absurd lol.

@dusk_phoenix07

Ай бұрын

I don't think it would make much of a difference, especially if you consider Cloud when he reaches his full potential.

Link: breaks Aerith’s pots Cloud: *peace was never an option*

@scotmmical2707

2 жыл бұрын

Aerith x cloud forever

@the300club8

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😂

@RelativelyBest

Жыл бұрын

Cloud: Wants to protect pots. Link: Breaks any pots he sees. My God. They're _natural enemies!_

@spidergoat533

Жыл бұрын

Watching link destroy pots without remorse was hilarious,

@SDSizumi26

Жыл бұрын

Idk, seems like your standard rpg game

Fitting that Link cares less about the fight and more about breaking pottery.

@oofergoofer1029

2 жыл бұрын

Had me dying

@TickedOffPriest

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud cared more about saving the pottery.

@Gameguy5289

2 жыл бұрын

That and how Cloud was less focused about destroying stuff. Shows how different their games are. Zelda's has items in pots and FF has theirs in fight drops and stores.

@dp9139

2 жыл бұрын

That was awesome! I'm so happy the show has been remade, it's beautiful. The end was no surprise though, Link is from an action game based on riddles while Cloud is from a fantasy x space opera game based on super powers.

@Tinyangel12

2 жыл бұрын

@@dp9139 now that I say that... I can see why he lost now XD

I already guessed that Cloud would have won. But honestly for Link being just a human vs a literal superhuman he put up a good fight.

@EntombedToast70

8 ай бұрын

Best part? Link probably just revived later on

@porkcracklins630

8 ай бұрын

@@EntombedToast70 Or he didn't resurrect for a thousand years. It really depends on what the 3 goddesses need him for.

@EntombedToast70

8 ай бұрын

@@porkcracklins630 true

@pipzgutz

6 ай бұрын

Isn't link an elf?

@EntombedToast70

6 ай бұрын

@@pipzgutz not really, most hylians die around 120-140, certainly long lived but not elves

That's the single most brutal Omnislash I've ever seen. Even Sephiroth wasn't cut in half

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think if they were going to go brutal with it, they should have gone all the way. Basically, have every slash cut a piece off Link (or have the cuts build up, and he just falls apart at the end.).

@sombra-fy5oi

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 Yeah, but then him splitting the freaking triforce at the end wouldn't have really hit as hard

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@sombra-fy5oi Fair point. Though, technically speaking, the whole splitting the triforce thing never should have happened in the first place, since the triforce has never been used in such a manner before. But you are correct.

@sombra-fy5oi

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 I'm no lore expert, i just see big shiny powerful thing get cleaved in half by angry guy with 50 swords

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@sombra-fy5oi Again, fair point.

Cloud: *survives a Supernova to the face* Zack: *dies from bullets*

@SenjiroAkechi

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, cloud got hurt by bullets too in advent children. Literally right after ff7.

@TheTrueHolyDarkness

2 жыл бұрын

Also Cloud: *gets stabbed by sephiroth.* Sephiroth: *gets counter-stabbed by cloud and thrown meters into the lifestream, but is perfectly fine later. So is cloud.* Dyne: *successfully commits suicide by jumping off a cliff after that whole barret episode.* Tifa: *gets slashed by sephiroth and falls down at least two stories worth of stairs. nah she's fine.* Aerith: *gets stabbed by sephiroth yet no amount of healing magic works all of a sudden(?).* Zack: *gets sniped and just plain drops dead.* Cloud: *sniped by a bullet that **_CLEARLY runs him through_** at the end of advent children. anti-climatically gets up two seconds later, no damage to his sweater (wut?).* Durability feats are HELLUVA inconsistent in FF7. It's just plain poor writing on FF7's part, and my greatest pet peeve with it's storytelling. I don't mean to bash everything about FF7's writing, but there's little to no tension in their fights precisely because there's no telling what's meant to be a "lethal wound" in their world. Too much anime-logic in how injuries work in their world if you ask me. It's one of the things I really appreciate about the FFXV: Kingslayer movie. Square's writers finally learned to treat a character getting injured as actually _getting injured._ If I told you that I work for Square-Enix, and that in the next big FVII update we're going to mix things up by having Yuffie, Vincent, and/or Cid getting sniped and/or stabbed with a piece of rhubarb (during a cutscene), as a fan, you'd have no idea as to whether or not you should be concerned with how we're "changing things." Wouldn't you?

@TheTrueHolyDarkness

2 жыл бұрын

EDIT: One last observation... Cloud: *can survive supernova, so naturally this makes him too durable for Link to handle* The rest of the Avalanche Cast: *can also survive supernova* By this logic, any member of AVALANCE is just plain too tanky to be stopped by the likes of say, Samus Aran's plasma beams, let alone Link, right? Fire Lord Ozai? More like Fire Loser Osai as far as Barrett's immune black ass is concerned. Not even the Phoenix Force could ever hope to put a dent into Yuffie Kisaragi! She's too stronk against flame! Superman's heat vision against the MIGHTY CAITH SITH?! Hardy har har. Such tactics are nothing before the almighty supernova durability feat. CAITH MOTHERFUCKIN SITH eats thousands of years worth of the Sun's energy output for breakfast! *Also according to Deathbattle.* Tifa Lockhart loses to Yang Xiao Long, a martial artist character whose signature super-power is called "Burn."

@x0uzumakinaruto0x

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTrueHolyDarkness I am in no way saying you're wrong, but I am giving what I think could be somewhat reasonable explanations. I'm not saying "actually it works like this," just how I think. Sephiroth could have missed vital organs. It's not impossible that Cloud would survive. After all, we know Sephiroth likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. The lifestream is insane and Sephiroth is essentially a clone of Jenova. Not surprised he survived. Dyne was a regular human. He fell and bashed his head probably who knows how many times, and didn't even struggle. Tifa could have gotten a shallow wound, doing more surface damage than real damage. Again, Sephi likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. As for the stairs, as long as she didn't break her neck, she'd come out with a few nasty bruises, but overall, okay. I still don't know about Aerith, but my idea is that dying and being K.O.'d is very different. Given how cheap materia and healing items can be, I feel that they cannot actually bring someone back to life. They can only resuscitate an unconscious person. That said, when Aerith got stabbed, I imagine is was right through the heart.

@kirara2516

2 жыл бұрын

@@SenjiroAkechi what you should be asking is, after Cloud gets hit by Yazoo, he then actually 'dies' by an explosion of Yazoo and Loz overloading their materia. Apparently exploding materia at point blank range is stronger than an exploding sun? I suppose we should be thankful Aerith and Zack decided to send him back from the lifestream.

Don’t worry guys, if Link dies we can always clap and bring him back to life.

@Cam-jl9kh

2 жыл бұрын

"He's not a fairy!"

@juubi249

2 жыл бұрын

That just sent me back 9 years

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not a fairy! He’s a lost boy from Neverland.

@Wolfo277

2 жыл бұрын

I'll be sad if he does tho 😥

@minatosealofdeath1342

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silent_Fool Peter pan

0:41 Intro 1:06 Link 6:06 Cloud 12:04 Fight

@At-sign

4 ай бұрын

You are a true hero for some Completely useless to others

I like how when it starts to rain you can hear link playing the ocarina. That was a nice detail that i noticed

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

I mean, considering that it was Link playing the ocarina that caused it to rain, it makes sense.

@valor1omega

11 ай бұрын

And it gave link's position away.

@jacobh3426

8 ай бұрын

He played the song of storms

Link stopping to break pots/vases mid-fight is such a hilarious break in his character. The look in his eyes as he dashes towards the first pot makes me lose it every time.

@nathanielbass771

Жыл бұрын

it's actually not a break in his character. Just about every boss fight he encounters has them and even if not, his most useful items come from them

@zacharie2334

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielbass771 And we hear a sound when he breaks them (probably the sound of gaining an item)

@TheSuperSmashBros01

Жыл бұрын

A great attention to detail honestly

Either way, the moment Link took off the cape and raised his sword for lightning was DOPE

@Fenrix9

Жыл бұрын

14:35

@TheSuperSmashBros01

Жыл бұрын

That was a badass moment

@marioandfriends_official

Жыл бұрын

The fact that he set it up with the song of storms makes it a great detail too

@kaelli2892

Жыл бұрын

Cloud VS Raiden | Final Fantasy vs Metal Gear Rising | DEATH BATTLE

I love that Cloud cares about property while Link is just vandalizing everything in sight lol 😅

So I just want to point out a few things that seem to have been left out of Link's armory: The Mirror Shield, capable of reflecting energy including all magic; the Pegasus boots and seeds which each significantly increase his speed; the Bunny Hood, also capable of increasing his speed; bomb arrows, not a significant threat to Cloud but still too effective for him to ignore; Cryonis pillars in the rain can even emerge out of mud and make excellent cover; Daruk's protection is an impenetrable barrier, as is Nayru's Love (I can see why those weren't included); and then there was no inclusion of the Hidden Skills like the shield attack that could've put Cloud off-balance every time he struck the shield. You know Link is good with that technique when he uses it to reflect lasers without the Mirror Shield

@seanpazdera6407

Жыл бұрын

Most of those don't matter for anything at all.

@stephen92

Жыл бұрын

@@seanpazdera6407 I think they matter a lot. The Mirror Shield makes Link effectively immune to magic and dangerous to even cast a spell on. I may be wrong, but I think the summon attacks are also magical which means these would also be reflected. Link is also able to exploit even a small opening with the flurry rush and a sucessful shield parry does exactly that. The movement speed buffs mean he'd be able to dodge more attacks rather than parry which means even more flurry rushes

@seanpazdera6407

Жыл бұрын

@@stephen92 A great deal of spells in Final Fantasy aren't like Twinrova. Some are even explosions that appear around you or cause your blood to congeal and stuff. SummonING is magical, but summonS aren't inherently. It would be better to just have Link use his own summons. You can't Flurry Rush straight out of a Shield Bash. Movement speed buffs don't affect reactions.

@stephen92

Жыл бұрын

@@seanpazdera6407 I know you can't flurry rush after a shield parry and that's not the point. The point is that it creates an opening for attacks. The movement speed buffs don't affect his ability to recognize a threat and decide to move, but they do affect the speed at which he can move once the threat is identified. His body can keep up a little better with his mind. What you say about ff magic, completely fair. I don't know the magic from that series nearly as well as others. However, it would certainly affect the fire, Ice, lightning and wind magic as well as likely poison magic. Like casting an attack spell on something with reflect, but it doesn't wear off

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@stephen92 Most of those magics you mentioned aren't projectiles. Lightning is a projectile, but it originates from above, which would not only be unnatural for Link to actually block, but even if he did, that would leave a massive opening for Cloud to take advantage of.

I like how Cloud sees Link on the motorcycle after him and he’s like “him again”

@gregbethscheider5912

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing that you said when I started watching the fight

@nahor88

2 жыл бұрын

Link already beat Cloud once; they weren't gonna have Link win again. Still safe to say Link wins a popularity contest.

@hernandeznestor7685

2 жыл бұрын

@@nahor88 well Super Man rektd Goku twice. If they do a 3rd round It would be just to please weebs AND neckbeards

@nahor88

2 жыл бұрын

@@hernandeznestor7685 I've never played a single Final Fantasy game, but I do know Link was able to block Omnislash the 1st round as regular Link using z-targeting... what happened to that?

@hernandeznestor7685

2 жыл бұрын

@@nahor88 you mean the figth were cloud didnt cast any spells while link used all His arsenals?

I can’t get over the fact that Link stopped fighting just to smash some pots, my man

@beipiaosaurus

2 жыл бұрын

The sound effects do indicate he found a rupy.

@pigifi

2 жыл бұрын

wouldn't be link if he doesn't smash pottery.

@jujuxybobo2616

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud was a gentle man and saved a very innocent pot

@Hyperneosonic97

2 жыл бұрын

@@jujuxybobo2616 Also stopping Link from vandalizing the late Aerith's favourite place.

@JaelinBezel

2 жыл бұрын

Especially because that's what he does during boss fights too (to look for hearts) and, as evidenced by The Fierce Diety's Mask, this WAS a boss fight.

Man Link has some serious hammer space, even compared to an FF character. Also Cloud catching the pot like a tennis ball on his sword was pretty great lol

@Beegrene

8 ай бұрын

I believe Nintendo Power said that he simply has really deep pockets. Or that may have been James Bond. I don't remember exactly.

That was ... EPIC! Thank you so much for producing this!

Imagine both of them eating a meal prepared by Link Cloud: What is this delicacy ? link: EH, HIYEW, DAAAH Cloud: sounds exotic

@esteban8471

2 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine Cloud's friends saying that instead but they would tell Cloud to thank Link and compliment the food. At least, that's the vibe the FF7 remake gave me.

@minatosealofdeath1342

2 жыл бұрын

@@esteban8471 yeah

@goukisama007

2 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment I've read on death battle 😂. Bravo!

@hanburgundy4317

2 жыл бұрын

Tifa: "Geez, Cloud; the least you could do is say thank you." Aeris: "Come on, Cloud. Tell Link thank you for the delicious meal he prepared." Cloud: "Hmm... thanks, it's... yummy."

@hahamadeyouread214

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanburgundy4317 link: HAH, ZEEAAAHH, AWOOO

This really hit on the fact that Link is a mischievous fairy child who just shows up, starts a fight, breaks pots, can just somehow duplicate himself. He's embodying Fae energy through this whole fight and I love it. even the transformation into Fierce Deity was like him taking the mask off and revealing his "true form" as some terrifying Fairy warrior. (despite that he puts a mask on to do this)

@seanpazdera6407

Жыл бұрын

He's mischievous, but not evil. In Adult Link this manifests as little more than just lighthearted jokes every once in a while. Only Child Link shows anything immature. In either form he's meant to be something only the wicked fear anyway.

@gamerstheater1187

Жыл бұрын

he's not a fairy he's a human

@QTA777

Жыл бұрын

LINK CANT DIE!!!!!! CLOUD IS A LOSER GUYS HES NOT SPOSTA WIN

@stephenautopsy6246

Жыл бұрын

Fae means goblin like creature not fairy the fairy you are thinking of is just a kind of fae

@lolrus5555

Жыл бұрын

@@QTA777 please shut up -_-

Cloud: Good game Link: Good game *They handshaked*

This was epic, my two favourite protagonists and I'm happy with the analysis, great video.

Is it wierd that the part where Link cannot stop himself from smashing the pots even though he is in the middle of a fight and Cloud going out of his way to save one of them is among my favorite parts of this episode?

@nealenthenerd399

2 жыл бұрын

I love he tries to care for Aerith’s church even in battle.

@blueotter5954

2 жыл бұрын

Elegant is it not

@TrueZero2

2 жыл бұрын

I was honestly expecting that last pot to come in clutch for Link at one point. Maybe it had a fairy in it.

@RhizometricReality

2 жыл бұрын

The animators did fantastic

@astaku8374

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrueZero2 I think I heard a recovery effect. He probably did find a fairy

I feel like speed scaling in death battle often doesn't reflect how fast the characters really are, like in that world are the laser beams and lightning attacks really as fast as ours? or with Cloud if he can scale to a creature who can move across the solar system in like 10 seconds then couldn't he have instantly travelled across the continent in his search of sephiroth if he is anyway scalable to that. I don't really have a solution, but I just feel these kind of speed scaling often gives a result which makes a character seem way faster than what they are otherwise represented as being in the game.

@christophermonteith2774

2 жыл бұрын

not the best, but kingdom hearts scaling would indicate FTL at least, so its not impossible

@pandaeyez

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. He doesn't need to be able to hurdle through the cosmos like Bahamut, simply reacting and moving fast enough to keep up with it is a feat in itself. Link doesn't zap across the skies like a lightning bolt either, but he can react fast enough to dodge it. Both Zack and Cloud being first class soldiers (or just being beyond the level of one in Cloud's case) meant they had superhuman reflexes and speed, but it's that reactive speed and their own speed that allows them to keep up with Bahamut and Sephiroth and Weapons, etc. If you can anticipate, react and move just fast enough, then a fast opponent means nothing.

@turnttaco7661

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's still a great fear for sure but death battle has always had trouble differentiating between travel speed and combat speed

@DenderFriend

2 жыл бұрын

You don't always move at your top speed or punch your strongest hit, but Death Battle judges characters based on their best.

@XUIW

2 жыл бұрын

I just don’t like how they use most of game logic/mechanics to justify a feat.

Not a fan of how Mipha’s Grace was the only Champion ability that Link could use in this battle, Daruk’s Protection easily could’ve Link the edge of used sparingly, also Link’s Bullet Time ability was completely ignored, which is very weird considering the first time he shoots and arrow at Cloud is when he’s in the air, if Bullet Time was considered then Link could end the battle quickly

@jaxsonevans7796

11 ай бұрын

That's if Cloud doesn't even use his abilities or powers at all. Like did you even consider Cloud would even let all this happen?

@ikeillue8385

11 ай бұрын

The issue is, though said abilities were not included in the fight, they were taken into consideration. Its just that they didn't have the time or budget to include everything from both characters. The fact of the matter is, none of Link's arsenal makes any real difference. Daruk's protection isn't going to do much. Being able to block 3 attacks isn't going to change anything, when his opponent is massively stronger and faster than Link. Not to mention, Cloud literally has the ability to turn off barrier, like Daruk's, on a whim (Turning off magical effects like that is literally the purpose of the magic, dispel.). As far as bullet time, when you consider how much faster Cloud is than Link, even when Link has bullet time active, Cloud would still be moving faster than Link could comprehend. Ignoring that point, it still wouldn't have ended the fight for 2 major reasons. Reason 1, in BOTW, Ancient arrows don't do the instant death effect on more powerful enemies, such as bosses, and Cloud EASILY outpowers every boss in LOZ combined. Reason 2, even if we ignore reason 1, and assume the instant death would work on Cloud, it still doesn't matter, because Cloud literally has immunity to instant death effects. Point being, best case scenario for Link, Ancient arrows would only do damage to Cloud, and considering the power difference between the two, that damage would be negligible.

@TheBigTopaz

11 ай бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 the Ancient Arrows confine all goes into oblivion in lore, in game is a different story and since they are using in story details and not in game details, Ancient Arrows always confine the Target into oblivion

@ikeillue8385

11 ай бұрын

@@TheBigTopaz Why didn't he just use the arrows on Ganon then? Would it not have been much easier to "confine him into oblivion" than fighting him as he did? In lore, there are limitations to it, otherwise the story would be trivialized. Also, it makes little difference. Cloud could still just use exit materia (which is dimensional hopping materia) to escape "oblivion" whatever that may mean.

@johnpett1955

8 ай бұрын

Imagine bullet time+ silver arrows. That would be crazy.

This death battle is so strange. There are several times where we have Link use his powers in the least effective way possible just so the fight continues. Ie: uses ancient arrows but shoots the bike instead of Cloud, uses stasis but just stands there instead of actually doing something during the time freeze, and then he uses the invisibility cloak to do nothing? These are the kinds of things I expect to see from the death battle combatant that ends up winning, to show how many powers they have over their opponent and how many ways they could win, but he lost in the end?

@ICTON123

10 ай бұрын

The animation is just for entertainment, it's not a simulation. If it was trying to be accurate, then Cloud would realistically just end Link in an instant. Anyway, no, Link was actually using them as best he could. He baited Cloud using Magnesis to draw him near the bike and then used it on the bike to ensure that Cloud couldn't see or dodge the arrow (we see that Cloud is incredibly near the bike and gets hit by the Ancient Arrow's explosion), but Cloud toughed it out. He very clearly did not just stand there during Stasis, Cloud used his own time stop on Link. And he uses the invisibility cloak to escape Cloud's attack and get as far as he can, but as they already showed, he wouldn't be able to attack like that cause he's intangible, and he can't stay cloaked cause the cloak drains mana.

@superspell1

5 ай бұрын

@@ICTON123 In the games link actually can attack while under that cloak, and he should have 3 days of limitless magic thanks to the power of milk.

Seeing Link die in this isn't as bad or impactful to me considering all the torture and deaths I've put him throughout the 4 years of Breath of the Wild.

@DOOGIE_PLAYZZZZ

2 жыл бұрын

You had me in the first half not gonna lie

@canyouhelpmegetto69kwithno22

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve literally jumped off cliffs on purpose in botw on purpose cause I was bored

@niasayamuongbo6498

2 жыл бұрын

Zelda

@Ethan-yd4gn

2 жыл бұрын

Like when you're essentially on the standing on the bay of a pond, but still drown. Sad times

@Twilight17Petkoton

2 жыл бұрын

Even know Link lose to Cloud. But Cloud lost in Video games in E3 Nintendo got a S rank and Square Enix a D rank. Showing great game on Nintendo on up and down moments on E3. Square Enix not so much a little on worsted moments. So Link wins on video games.

I knew link was losing once he grew. Usually whoever uses the big move first loses in death battle

@mistersippi2945

2 жыл бұрын

Huh, you’re right. Didn’t notice that.

@TheBronf

2 жыл бұрын

not all the time. allmight and might guy is a example. as well as kakashi and obi wan.

@wolfwarrior1176

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBronf i still find it awesome that all might could go square off against 7 gates might guy

@archibaldc.1833

2 жыл бұрын

I think they started getting tired of the comments always making fun if that trope so they decide to invert it from time to time.

@archibaldc.1833

2 жыл бұрын

@@vginsprdsobepr9698 Cloid

Ftr, remember that masks like Fierce Diety and The Giant can only be used under very specific conditions. Highly unlikely they would occur during this fight. Also remember, Majora referred to Fierce Deity as a supposed villain. He only gave Link that mask because he was lonely and wanted to play "Good Guy, Bad Guy."

@juubi249

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Cloud is more than strong enough to be considered a 'boss', and thus would fulfill the condition for the FD mask

@blastvortex

Жыл бұрын

@@juubi249 If that were all requirements entailed, then if Link were so lucky to keep hold of the FD mask during his journeys, he theoretically may be able to use it during his bouts with Odolwa, Goht, Gyorg and Twinmold. Sadly, we do not know. As such, it is also not a given.

@rusher444

Жыл бұрын

@@blastvortex you can use it against all the bosses in majoras mask.

@juubi249

Жыл бұрын

@blastvortex he...he can though. When you go through the game after getting the FD mask, you can use it against all the bosses

@blastvortex

Жыл бұрын

@@rusher444 Must be only the 3D version. (No, I never bothered checking after that.) Regardless, along with the host of Grezzo's refuting or rather retconning changes, may or may not canonically agree. Are they all canon then? Perhaps just a bonus for the faithful, since you couldn't save the mask in the original. Better than a golden turd. That's about it. (And no. I didn't bother with the fishing either. Shameful, useless add in doesn't apply anything to the story, and robbed of easy, quick resources for the 5K heart piece too. Don't understand why Grezzo couldn't give MM the same care they gave OOT. Jerks.)

Y’all kinda forgot links armour stats, like the barbarian armour greatly increases links strength, or the thunder helm which makes him completely invulnerable to lighting, and how the champions tunic has insane durability

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

Dude, Cloud is swinging hard enough to deal lethal damage to a being that casually tanked a supernova. Its not that they forgot Link's armor stats, its that they just don't matter in the least.

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

They forget a lot of things here, link has resisted explosions, slashes, from powerful beings that make cloud strife look like some wannabe anime character. Y'all don't see the potential link has because you stick with sheer power over skill . Link would still win .

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 there are God's and powerful strikes in Zelda that could wreck cloud in seconds . Link has faced far worse than cloud, he's taken damage from a literal God more specifically demise . he's also taken damage from a moon is that super nova enough for you ?

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@ronandread5141 Except there is nothing in Legend of Zelda that comes even remotely close to Cloud's level of power. The thing is, in a semi close fight, where the difference is only moderate, skill, planning and strategy absolutely make a difference. However, it doesn't matter how much an ant plans, it will never be able to take down a tank. Furthermore, you are completely ignoring the fact that Cloud is also a massively skilled swordsman, literally going toe to toe with the guy who makes the best swordsmen in the world look like amateurs. You can't actually quantify skill, but there is no reasonable argument that puts Link's level of skill any significant amount greater than Cloud's (its actually easier to argue that Cloud is the more skilled swordsman). I legit don't understand how you think Link can win, when Cloud quite literally can will Link to die, and he would die. Materia does that, and Link has no defense against it. Again, nothing in LOZ could stand of to Cloud. Like, you mentioned gods. So what? "god" is a title, it doesn't actually mean anything, and the "gods" in LOZ, have never performed any attack potency feats that would even register on Cloud's radar. This includes Demis, who's greatest feat is calling lighting (which would heal Cloud), and his greatest statement/implied feat, is being a threat to the world. I can't help but feel like you don't know what a supernova is, otherwise you wouldn't have said something as ridiculous as "he's also taken damage from a moon is that super nova enough for you?" A supernova is more powerful than a moon busting attack, by multiple magnitudes. The difference between high end moon level, and minimum solar system level, is a difference of 1 quadrillion times.

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 no dude link would still win , it's not even about power if anything link is like the Batman for Nintendo he doesn't overpower his opponents he figures out their weaknesses. I feel like you're just crazy about final fantasy because of its stupidly overpowered characters.

Plot twist: They are fighting because they argued who crossdressed better

@epsyblue7714

2 жыл бұрын

Gee thanks. Now I want to see them fighting in drag.

@davidashton3671

2 жыл бұрын

Personally Link in drag looks much better.

@TheTrueHolyDarkness

2 жыл бұрын

This.

@darkfox1861

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidashton3671 yep

@KayLDay

2 жыл бұрын

Omg yes

Best part was link stopping to destroy the pottery, and Cloud catching pottery to save it.

@trythelight8319

2 жыл бұрын

It was just *so* in character and had me laughing! The battle was also quite tense when it needed to be, second guessing my expectations each moment!

@mattjohnson8585

2 жыл бұрын

It even looked like Link kept trying for it and would have just ignored Cloud XD

@justarandomguy54

2 жыл бұрын

That was hilarious.

@JD4Christ

29 күн бұрын

You don't break Aerith flower pots while Clouds around lol

A year later and while I still think Cloud could beat normal Link, there is NO SHOT he beats the Fierce Deity. You can scale Fierce Deity far above Majora, the same Majora who can be scaled to Dimensional/Universal (as Termina is a separate dimension from Hyrule, think of it like a pocket dimension, similar to the one Sephiroth creates for his Supernova attack). This Majora is also able to move in-between dimensions (the "inside" of the moon) that have no time (time does not progress "inside" the moon) ergo he should also have immeasurable speed to be able to move without time, or at the very least, can't be frozen by time stop (also in the Majoras Mask manga, it is specifically described as a "world" within Majora, so no it is not actually the moon). This Majora obliterates the Hero of Time if he is not stopped, there is 0 chance for Link to survive the destruction of this dimension besides rewinding time. This is the same Link who possesses 1/3rd of the Triforce, an artifact capable of creating a Universe, so it's not too much of a stretch that Link could have the attack potency of 1/3rd universal (or multi galaxy. I'm not saying he can destroy multiple galaxies, only that he has the strength to harm those that could) and this is also a Link post OoT, so he should scale above any feats performed in that game including defeating Ganon fully powered by the well, Triforce of power which just like Courage is another third of the triforce, the object that created the universe. Even if you don't believe that scaling, the triforce of power *alone* was enough to create Hyrule/Earth and was able to save Ganon from what would've been a fatal blow. Tl;dr OoT Link alone scales above Ganon, who scales to planetary at lowball and 1/3rd universal (multi galaxy) at highest. Said Majora is able to one-shot this Link if his plan is not stopped. In the games, The Fierce Deity takes very little damage from any of Majora's full strength (in the manga, he doesn't take *any* damage, able to completely tank a direct energy blast), this is again the same Majora who is able to create and/or manipulate entire Dimensions as well as destroy said Dimension at full power. Fierce Deity *bullies* Majora. In conclusion, while I'm not saying TFD would one-shot Cloud or anything, I highly doubt Cloud could defeat TFD, especially if we go by Deathbattle rules and use a comp-link, who should have all his other items, equipment, feats etc. So, in theory, you could say give TFD the Sheikha Slate, the Goron Bracelets, Mipha's grace etc. At that point, Cloud has no shot.

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

You are wanking LOZ power scaling a lot here. You have to be EXTREMELY generous to scale Majora to even planet level. More accurately he is powerful enough to pull a mountain sized moon out of orbit. Moving in-between dimensions is a hack, not any kind of attack potency scale. And, unless he is moving while he is frozen in time, your "immeasurable speed" thing is inaccurate, as they are still functioning within their own time. The Triforce is not capable of creating a universe. It is what remained in the place that the goddesses left Hyrule from. Furthermore, even if that wasn't the case, creation is not the same as attack potency. The Triforce's attack potency is really not all that impressive. The best its ever been shown was dropping a building on an enemy, and even that could be argued that it was just happenstance that it actually killed the enemy in question, since it was just returning the building to its original location. OOT Link is no where near planet level. At the end of OOT, Link and Zelda have to flee Hyrule castle before it collapses on them, otherwise they die. They aren't even large building level. Again, the Triforce "feats" aren't actually attack potency feats. Fierce Deity absolutely is able to bully Majora. But Majora is not nearly as powerful as you are making him out to be. Again, creation and destruction are not the same, so him being able to create a dimension is completely irrelevant. But lets pretend they are for a second that it is the same. Then the weakest summons in Final Fantasy 7 are also casual universal, as they all canonically create their own separate dimensions to pull enemies into, to avoid collateral damage. I don't think I need to explain how much higher than Chocobo Mog Cloud scales. Not only would Cloud have a shot, he would pretty casually overpower FD. FD's best attack potency feat, which isn't even canon btw, is cutting a tiny moon in half. Cloud is dealing lethal damage to a being who shrugs off a supernova with out flinching. Even if you include a composite Link, giving him all of his equipment from all games, most is irrelevant compared to Cloud's shear power, and the rest Cloud has straight up counters for. So, Link needs a composite build to even start being in the discussion, but still gets beaten down by Cloud 99 out of 100 times.

@Alpha-db4jo

11 ай бұрын

This isn’t even bringing Manga Link into this. Whom Solos the entire FF Cast with FD Link.

@OnboardWithChuck

10 ай бұрын

@@Alpha-db4jo Well the Manga's are little more than Nintendo Endorsed fan fictiction

@Alpha-db4jo

10 ай бұрын

@@OnboardWithChuck It’s considered Canon though. Nintendo confirmed it to be.

@chickenquesadilla8139

8 ай бұрын

@@Alpha-db4jo well, I mean, if someone wrote my game's character to completely annihilate another game franchise's characters I'd happily call it canon too lol. If Square confirmed it as well it'd be canon.

Years late but... quote from Advent Children "I said I'd live both our lives"

@malibutaa

7 ай бұрын

Easy to make that promise…

Link: *Becomes Fierce Deity* Cloud: WAIT A MINUTE?! •Long Sword •White Hair •Taller than me Cloud: You’ve gotta be shitting me. ??? next to Cloud’s ear: HELLO THERE!

@ikeillue8385

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Fierce Deity's sword needs another foot or two added to it to be mistaken for Masamune. Also, Fierce Deity is missing those gorgeous locks, that are almost as long as the sword itself.

Such a little but neat detail is when the song of storms was not just part of the score, but altered the weather in order for Link to draw power from lightning. Love that.

@juubi249

2 жыл бұрын

I also love the slowed down, almost sort of mysterious feel the song of storms had in the score, it was so good

@deathnights-bane3301

2 жыл бұрын

I mean yes, but better songs could have been played to change the tide of battle

Adore the idea of bringing a Link that just has everything every Link has ever had, would love to see him in more matches but using more he's abilities rather than skipping to Fierce diety mask which i also think it's too big here, it's just adult Link with a blade that shoots beams

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

Its not actually. In majora's mask, you can glitch fierce Deity out of boss rooms, and compare it directly to other Hylians, and it is in fact a giant

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

He also has the powers of the other masks including the bomb mask which would allow him to create explosions

@jthecryptid

6 ай бұрын

Fierce Deity is gigantic in MM. He's taller than every non-boss character model and even towers over the smaller houses. Easily in the 10-14 ft range Those sword beams were concentrated and strong enough to shred apart the moon. Don't short-sell Fierce Deity

Wait a minute, why were Cloud and Link driving through a tunnel that just spits people off a cliff?

@troodontalon5990

11 ай бұрын

It apparently led toward the temple where Cloud met Aerith, so Cloud may have been going to check up on it, pay respects, etc. As for why Link saw fit to follow him... eh, that's a little harder to explain. Maybe he got a side quest from Shinra without realizing what he was getting into or who he was working for.

@rodrickgoldberg2324

11 ай бұрын

@@troodontalon5990 That still doesn’t explain why Cloud chose that route specifically. Wasn’t there a better way to get to his destination?

@troodontalon5990

11 ай бұрын

@@rodrickgoldberg2324 That all depends on where he was coming from. If he was on his way back from a mission on Midgar, probably not. Cloud has never been *that* great at discretion (it's a little hard to blend into a crowd with such a big sword on your back) and Shinra troops would be more hesitant to follow him into an unfinished tunnel (most of them wouldn't survive the kind of falls that Cloud can shrug off).

We all know why link lost. He forgot to grab the mid-dungeon item that can defeat cloud.

@reaganhernandez6041

2 жыл бұрын

He Already Did In His First Battle

@mafrodisiak2673

2 жыл бұрын

@@reaganhernandez6041 first battle!?

@shanesmith2050

2 жыл бұрын

@@mafrodisiak2673 this is the rematch

@mrboerger1620

2 жыл бұрын

Duh

@emerylsg

2 жыл бұрын

this was a very clever joke

The track is called "Final Breath" that's a solid name

@sdmffuentebella9002

2 жыл бұрын

It is indeed.

@sdmffuentebella9002

2 жыл бұрын

All I need to know is when is it coming out

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdmffuentebella9002 wait for Brandon Yates. Hopefully it comes out before this episode.

@TheShadow1347

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@charsonic1771

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

With tears of the kingdom now out I can’t help but imagine cloud trying his best to keep up with the raw power of JEREMY

14:48 Link releases a beam from his sword like in smash ultimate due to not taking any damage yet is an amazing detail

@zauztheblacksmith

7 ай бұрын

I think that's meant to be a Lightning Strike from Skyward Sword, since an F-Smash beam in Smash Bros isn't anywhere near that powerful.

@sabin97

7 ай бұрын

he has had that ability since the legend of zelda. decades ago. do you remember a console called the "nintendo entertainment system"(also known as the famicom)? since those days he's had that skill.

@RealCFZ

Ай бұрын

Technically, he has that ability back in the first NES Zelda game (even without the Master Sword). Link to the Past is the first game where Master Sword that debut.

Character descriptions. Link: Here are all the spells, tools, and abilities his many different incarnations have had over the years. Cloud: Here are all the reasons he needs therapy.

@minatosealofdeath1342

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

Sephiroth: Hello there! I want a barbeque. A chocobo barbeque.

@NoFocksGiven_

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud: as my therapist says. Stay where you belong. In my head.

@theadmirableadmiral7408

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoFocksGiven_ I… will never stay in your head.

@classicsagat

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silent_Fool Or Midgar Zolom BBQ? I mean he made it ready for shishkabobs lolol

Link/Cloud: *clash swords against each other* Ganondorf/Sephiroth: *starts laughing at them*

@JustAPrinnyDood

2 жыл бұрын

Ganondorf: "I see this as an absolute win!"

@regretgaming2446

2 жыл бұрын

Sephiroth ' aw man means I'm gonna have to deal with him now' Ganon 'sucks to be you.... mind if I take the triforce of courage?' Sephiroth *pulls sword* 'over my dead body' Boomstick 'its time for a dathbattlllllllllllllllle'

@Jason-he1mr

2 жыл бұрын

Ganondorf vs Sephiroth

@andrewpenny4676

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jason-he1mr Sorry he gonna have to take on dracula first.

@davidgumazon

2 жыл бұрын

Steve: Man, this Smash matchup is so good! **eats bread** Death Battle not Smash xD

The only reason why Link lost is because they didn't include his speedrunner form

@mysterykiddo2167

Ай бұрын

LOL

@AwesomeMooseSmile

22 күн бұрын

I still really want a death battle between speedrunner Link or Mario from the N64 games versus a KZread poop character like Carlton Banks or Spingebill

Man link would be even more broken in this fight with his new arm having a couple new abilities like moving objects in general and fusing them together, fusing objects to his weapons including other weapons, ascend letting him go through vertical objects and appearing on top, and letting him be able to rewind objects

@ikeillue8385

11 ай бұрын

So... what is Link being able to move objects around and fuse them together going to do against someone who is, you know.... supernova levels of power on a low ball? Nothing. The answer is absolutely nothing.

@rogue_2k374

10 ай бұрын

Well to be fair, at most it would fusing things with the Master Sword of the Ancient Dagger to try and one shot Cloud, which as pointed out, Link just doesn’t have enough speed to be able to reliably kill Cloud. I love Link, and am still a little salty at how the fight turned out, but even I agree with the end result.

@Beegrene

8 ай бұрын

@@rogue_2k374 Ancient Dagger doesn't one-shot bosses. I think Cloud would qualify as a boss fight for Link.

@tumultuousv

8 ай бұрын

​@@ikeillue8385cloud isn't that OP bruh

@tumultuousv

8 ай бұрын

​@@Beegrene lore wise it does

Fun fact: Cloud has the most player-controlled appearances of any character in the Final Fantasy series, and the second most appearances altogether, behind Gilgamesh.

@smellyuncle

2 жыл бұрын

At least Cloud is first protagonist to have the most player controlled appearances.

@lynxfresh5214

2 жыл бұрын

Gilgamesh is such a hilarious yet likeable character, I hope he appears in FFXVI.

@SuperSwordman1

2 жыл бұрын

Which makes me super depressed that Square keeps pushing this punk.

@banditbro25

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Gilgamesh in FF universe is a reality bender so him apparently being in every universe makes sense

@smellyuncle

2 жыл бұрын

@@banditbro25 That’s fair I guess.

"Cloud and Zack die from bullets" Ok but Link dies to chickens...

@CosmicGoku529

2 жыл бұрын

Hold up there. Those chicken are way more deadly than a bullet. They are immortal bringers of death.

@richardlabrie515

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicGoku529 Those chickens can even defeat Ganon!

@floatingf8783

2 жыл бұрын

As of Breath of the Wild, Cucoos are terrifying monsters when provoked in-universe, they're not ordinary chickens.

@goldenboy2740

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry though, each of those bullets are probably stronger then the supernova that hit Cloud (Deathbattle logic)

@Average_Elf

2 жыл бұрын

It's seems you not play the game huh That's chicken is frkin immortal and can beat ganon! Even guy like Cloud is no match for Mighty Chicken CUCCO!

This fight really highlights the main difference between Link and Cloud as characters. Link is a mostly-regular human (Hylian) from a medieval fantasy setting, whereas Cloud is a supersoldier from a science fiction setting. They're evenly matched in a lot of ways, but Cloud just outstats him.

@bellattery

7 ай бұрын

Bottem line Link loses because he's outmatched in literal power, i take back my comment years ago..

@fnhatic6694

7 ай бұрын

The funny thing is if you dive into the comments, even fans of Final Fantasy are basically saying Death Battle got a lot of their info completely wrong, misattributed stuff to Cloud (he didn't fight Baphomet), and something like the Supernova attack literally cannot kill anyone since it does fractional damage and nothing else. And also it's canon in Final Fantasy that just basic bullets will kill any one of them because it's how half the cast gets killed.

@bellattery

7 ай бұрын

@@fnhatic6694 yeah see, i made that comment years ago about the game itself shows and states Super Nova is literally a fraction damage attack with (status infliction) in the NA version it cannot kill anyone yet in JP it's an instant kill not even auto ress works through it it's instant game over which means Super Nova is nothing short of an illusion. yes LMAO bullets kills the cast every time plus Cloud himself proves being impaled by weapons, falling from heights and being damaged by Shinra military weapons can easily kill him.

@malibutaa

7 ай бұрын

@@bellatterySuper nova is not an illusion, though I do not make the claim that the party can survive it. Supernova is stated as Sephiroth’s ultimate move, capable of causing destruction in a separate dimension.

@pandaeyez

7 ай бұрын

@@fnhatic6694 Cloud did fight Bahamat though and slayed it, in Advent Children.

Reality: Navi's constant *hey listen* causes cloud to unalive himself Link overcome with guilt does the same... The winner? Navi by annoyance

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Cloud casts silence on Navi, and becomes Link's hero.

I kinda wish you guys would stop equating dodging lasers as feats of speed. That's more of an anticipation in most cases. Or, automatically assuming a defeated enemy that can go super fast somehow means the fighter can too.

@sircatfaceesq578

2 жыл бұрын

I see it as their best attempt to pull something from nothing. I still hate it, but can understand why they do it

@midashitegamer5264

2 жыл бұрын

@@sircatfaceesq578 well actually no it's because these are video games, we can't have inputs that fast or no one would get past the first area, these are superhuman characters, for instance we know through cutscenes that cloud can block and dodge bullets, we've also been him dodge much fast things, and have immense feats of strength, in the remake we get to be cloud in pvp combat as a player character and not just a party member showing it is actually happening real time just the mechanics of the game prevent it from being played in such a way, and that's because it's a turn based rpg, that's it's genre, so likelihood is the interpretation you were meant to each is that cloud beat the dragon in real time combat and therefore had to keep up

@midashitegamer5264

2 жыл бұрын

@@sircatfaceesq578 also we know from multiple ff games that dragons have extreme speed strata and have an affinity for wht magic that boosts said speed stats, it's unreasonable to think they are slow just because the mechanics are that of a turn based rpg

@midashitegamer5264

2 жыл бұрын

@@sircatfaceesq578 link has lifted thousands of tons but he hasn't survived a supernova, link is fast but light has achieved faster travel and reaction speeds on foot, it's undeniable if you've played both games

@ivoryraven3487

2 жыл бұрын

Yup its pretty dumb, or scaling people to other people through a common foe, or a "anime quarrel"

A nit-pick I have is how the fight starts. Link doesn't go around hunting people down. I think a better start would be a person in Midgar asking Cloud to stop the "Jar smashing menace."

@firemasterluke

2 жыл бұрын

@@bellattery lol thanks

@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley

2 жыл бұрын

Ohh, I like that much better!

@synchrofanatic510

2 жыл бұрын

There’s alot of weird choices for set pieces in this fight. Link hunting him down, the amount of time they focus on Cloud falling down the cliff and Cloud finding the Fusion Sword in the church when its supposed to be stored in his bike. I love that idea for an intro though.

@freetoplayking7362

2 жыл бұрын

Person: I drove Link away. My god, he was a hero. Link truly was an asset to this world. He was... [Link starts smashing Aerith's pottery] Cloud: ... a criminal! That's who he is! A vandal! He broke her pots! I want that man dead!

@firemasterluke

2 жыл бұрын

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 😁

0:40 Start 0:45 Intro 1:09 Link 6:07 Cloud 12:05 Death Battle

I gotta point out Link is a DIFFERENT Link in almost each game, which means Cloud won against not just one Link, but ALL versions of Link in this battle

@norrecvizharan1177

5 ай бұрын

Something which he arguably shouldn't have been able to do, considering his stated speed feat just simply flying through space and not combat related, whereas Link can stop time on a whim.

@user-ky4li6rz7m

4 ай бұрын

honestly fight shouldn't have gone that way, they left A LOT of stuff out of Link's arsenal which is fair, its hard to remember everything, but nonetheless it was a very cool fight.

Cloud: Cruising on his Motorcycle Link: ...And I took that personally

@SirMonty_

2 жыл бұрын

I mean they both should've ridden motorcycles and have riding duel

@nav3346

2 жыл бұрын

And then Yusei shows up and sets 1 card face down

@SirMonty_

2 жыл бұрын

@@nav3346 yeah also bruno aka ANTINOMY

@tquatMassEffect

2 жыл бұрын

He probably just thought they were in a Mario cart level

@creamncheese7761

2 жыл бұрын

I actually wonder if that was the inspiration

When Link dodges the laser it's a predictive roll, not a reflexive roll. Big difference.

@mikeperez8

2 жыл бұрын

This ^

@MercerSin

2 жыл бұрын

True, but speaking of the dodge mechanic, why didn’t link get the flurry effect? That’s (I like to think) his power in BOTW, all champs had one.

@matthewcox69

2 жыл бұрын

Same in the Naruto fight.

@midashitegamer5264

2 жыл бұрын

Bug difference? Reaction time and movement speed is the same, while it's not reflexive it's still the same speed, if you can predict light and dodge it, you're still moving faster than light in order to move out of it's way

@midashitegamer5264

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewcox69 no, reflexive dodging and predictive dodging takes the same speed, based on time and distance it will always be the same speed, if you could predict and dodge light, you're doing it the same as a reflex, because you are still able to dodge it which requires you to be faster than it, only if time is increased or distance is increased can a predictive dodge be slower than a reflexive dodge, but we are talking the same exact time and distance here

One of the main issues about Link vs Cloud/other Final Fantasy protagonists is the walls of resistances they both have.

Lets all put aside our differences and enjoy the carnage and the absolutely beautiful animation and graphics of this fight

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

Link would still win

@blitz4779

Жыл бұрын

@@ronandread5141 nah. If it was just base characters, cloud one shots. Link owes alot to his arsenal

@Theeight8b

Жыл бұрын

It's one of the best and very thought out animation on this channel, thats for sure.

@ZH1413

Жыл бұрын

@@blitz4779 don’t listen these they said link would win in this one they don’t know what they are talking about. Death battle makes animated videos opinions not facts just saying.

@matheusdiefenthaeler5342

Жыл бұрын

What part of "Lets all put aside our differences" did you morons failed to understand? xD

Cloud: "Finally...I beat the guy who beat me." Mario: "Not bad kid."

@JugularJohn

2 жыл бұрын

Mario: So who’d you beat? Cloud: Link Mario: ….. damnit he was a good friend..

@shanewalters2565

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I get it, because Mario had a rematch with Sonic for the 100th episode, and now we got a rematch between Link and Cloud, all we need now is a rematch between Luigi and Tails

@bruhm0ment6000

2 жыл бұрын

You know the end is coming for the antagonist of FF7 since cloud won. Unless it's a superman situation where he wins twice but that's like 0 percent chance of happening.

@red5158077

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanewalters2565 No

@theonewhodrums_

2 жыл бұрын

Why have a rematch between these two? I find it odd

Everyone keeps saying Link was breaking Aerith's" pots but if you take a closer look, those pots have the Gerudo symbol on them.

@OidBuddy

2 жыл бұрын

Even if they do have the Gerudo symbol. The pots were probably meant to be Aerith"s. She probably bought them on amaxon or ebay.

@geminuri

2 жыл бұрын

she traded flowers for them. duh.

@negr0mancer

2 жыл бұрын

maybe aerith was a loz fan

@jamesmerkel1932

2 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps tifa, being the thoughtful one, bought them afterward to grow flowers in Aeriths memory. If they weren't tied to aerith in some way Cloud wouldn't have cared to keep link from breaking them lol

@hyperuser5473

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud is a tifa fan

I kinda find hard to believe that Cloud can defeat the Fierce Deity, but in the other hand we don't know much besides Link becoming a Deity and being more powerful than Majora to the point that the fight becomes unfair

@ikeillue8385

8 ай бұрын

Why is that hard to believe? Fierce Deity was capable of trivializing an entity who's best feat was moving a tiny moon (and even then, that is arguably not even a relevant feat. Using that would be akin to using Meteor as part of Sephiroth's arsenal/scaling.). On the other hand, Cloud literally survives a supernova, and is capable of dealing lethal damage to an entity who tanks a supernova with out even flinching.

@IceBerg1620

4 ай бұрын

​@@ikeillue8385 Tifa and Yuffie also survive the Supernova. Do they all have Cloud's uber power level toughness?

@ikeillue8385

4 ай бұрын

@@IceBerg1620 Depends on what you mean by that. Are they as tough as Cloud? Probably not quite. Are they tough enough to survive a supernova? Absolutely, since that is literally something we can literally watch them do.

@matthewhyatt5740

2 ай бұрын

I've played both FF7 and nearly all the Zelda games, and I have to say they left out a lot of things on Link that could have easily changed the way of the fight, or how they measure the speed of Cloud made no sense. But in the end DB is just a show to watch for fun.

@ikeillue8385

2 ай бұрын

@@matthewhyatt5740 I'm willing to bet that you are either underestimating Cloud, or overestimating the things Link gets. Cloud is stronger, faster, at least comparably skilled, and has an arsenal that directly counters everything Link has that could have been a problem otherwise, while simultaneously giving him multiple options that Link has no defense against. Why does it not make sense how they measured Cloud's speed? Bahamut Fury was directly shown to be capable of traveling at those speeds (at least those speeds), so unless you are going to make the argument that Bahamut is one of the only creatures ever, both in the real world and in fiction, that is capable of moving faster than its able to perceive, there is nothing wrong with that scaling.

To those who didn’t notice. Link is a manlet, 4’10. He is a small boi that will stab you

@sketchydude8431

7 ай бұрын

Finally, I'm taller than a videogame character lol

The bit with link breaking pots and cloud trying to save them is priceless

@TheDisplacerBeast

2 жыл бұрын

Much like the pots were. Thats why cloud tried to protect them.

@sirrealgaming6913

2 жыл бұрын

much like the pots themselves

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

Cloud got some Wallace Wisdom.

@ikonyk4370

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Jackie chan

@reaganhernandez6041

2 жыл бұрын

13:05 Cloud Strife: "Excuse Me?!"

Link: Rolls like normal person. DB: He is moving 1/10 light speed!

@lightningandodinify

2 жыл бұрын

The speed reasoning in death battles are generally abysmal and ridiculous. The same goes for their inferences on physical strength from feats that seem extreme but are clearly overthought compared to what the creators intended.

@Vexiratus

2 жыл бұрын

@@lightningandodinify Yep. If a character gets hit by a trillion ton asteroid accelerting super slowly, they'll say he's hit with 1000 quadrillon tons of tnt

@ItachiYGO

2 жыл бұрын

generally in most VS communities creator intent isn't really taken into account. you just analyze the feats in a void if creator intent was taken into account, characters like Saitama would be literally invincible. since the whole point of the character is to never lose.

@mexicandruglord

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItachiYGO I wish some people would considered the creator intent, when it comes to VS debates, but that's just me.

@YAYCONFORMITY

2 жыл бұрын

His roll also probably has the force of 9 gagillion tons of tnt.

thanks for doing a second one

Love the remix of Song of storms when Link reveals himself and summons the lightning.

"as you can see Link can dodge this laser at the moment its fired" >Link begins dodging the laser a full 12 youtube frames and nearly a full second before it begins firing

@sauce987654321

2 жыл бұрын

That's what power wank looks like.

@Gnostic88

2 жыл бұрын

@@sauce987654321 For real. I remember their original fight with Link and Cloud. It was BS. glad this one made more sense.

@ransac16

2 жыл бұрын

If they wanted a better visual for reacting to/evading lasers they should have just used Link fighting Guardians.

@WwZa7

2 жыл бұрын

I think they just wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, push his abilities to the limit, because honestly, he was uncomparable to Cloud, that can survive a dimension breaking supernova.

@SD-uw7zu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gnostic88 exactly. Cloud got downplayed last time. And this is the first death battle rematch that wasn’t bad or controversial

Link: *slowly rolls about 5 feet in 1 second* Death Battle: HE CAN MOVE AT 1/10TH THE SPEED OF LIGHT! Cloud: *swings a sword at a dragon* Death Battle: HE'S MOVING AT 1200X THE SPEED OF LIGHT!!! I wonder how fast these guys think Epona and the Hardy-Daytona are...

@jasondarmasaputra7307

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that statement is stupid, link should be considered predicting where the laser would hit, and dodged, and cloud is fighting a dragon who is probably slowing it self down in order to fight back, i mean we can see that the dragon stood still while he demolished that beast

@DJCreepero

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 this man already smarter than most researchers in death battle but sadly these researchers take it literally and use average also it felt unfair on how cloud can survive a supernova while link could barely handle it oh wait cloud almost died by a sword does that mean that sword can kill 5 solar systems no they just use average so Cloud wins

@GuyWithAnAmazingHat

2 жыл бұрын

On top of that the reaction speed needed isn't that much because Link dodging the "laser" is literally performed by any average player of the game.

@theovernight1915

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 I'll provide a little pushback here. I definitely had a similar reaction at first, but consider what's also happening here: game designers cannot make games that require a player be able to function at 1/10th the speed of light - never mind 1200x's the speed of light! The game mechanics are designed to let us experience a simulation of being super-human but if you put the gameplay in a realistic setting, you could easily argue that for Link or Cloud to avoid laser beams (which probably would not politely draw lines in the dirt to give you a chance to avoid them) or dragon gods (who probably wouldn't politely wait for you to take your turn before ripping you to bits at ultra lightspeed) - they'd have to actually possess attributes sufficient to overcome those real-world threats!

@caesarroe1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasondarmasaputra7307 Nah it was Ultra Instinc dragon 😉😉

Question: How does Cloud destroy the tri force of courage? I Cloud could dodge it or possibly tanking the hit, but destroying the power of a goddess?

@ICTON123

4 ай бұрын

It *has* actually been destroyed before in WindWaker and A Link Between Worlds. And considering Cloud potentially netting power beyond even what the full TriForce has shown (Knights of the Round's summon attack is described as destroying the dimension they're in with King Arthur's sword swing in databooks, SuperNova destroys dimensional space in Dissidia, and potential scaling to Multiversal feats from characters such as NeoExdeath via FF: Tactics and Dissidia), he should be powerful enough to shatter the goddesses' gift. But aside from that, the animation is mainly just for entertainment, that was just there cause it would be cool. The TriForce of Courage hasn't really ever been shown to be capable of defending or harming things for Link. In fact, it rarely does... anything really, it mostly just sits there until a very specific event happens.

Well if this episode came out after Tears of the Kingdom I guarantee that Link… … … … … …Would have lasted a little longer but Cloud still wins.

I would like to point out that in the lore, BotW Link didn't just get timed abilities from the Champions' spirits, he got their abilities themselves transferred to him. For example he should be able to heal whoever he wants, create air as he pleases, and spam Daruk's Protection like the people who were born with those powers.

@Bleeperblopper497

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that matters much when the summon, Knights of the Round, ignores defenses along with Cloud having Protective Boots that make him Immune to Slow and Stop, therefore Cloud flat out wins in the Time Stopping department and people that say Link somehow resists Time Stopping are reaching too much. The Q&A Blogspot posted by the Research Team and Ultraguy, after this fight came out, went into FULL detail on why Cloud definitely wins, not to mention compositing Link in general is BS and Non-Canon, has never been shown having all of his weapons and abilities at once in the games and the fact that the Hero of Time was clearly a separate being from Twilight Princess Link and had to actually teach the other person their techniques instead of remembering their past lives where even if you do composite, it only seems fair to let Cloud have all of his Materia which can actually counter all of Links Gear along with Clouds Ribbon, Boots, Summons and Spells, its just that most people think that Links gear is more memorable and don't pay much attention to all the stuff Cloud has and you can even make a good argument that Cloud actually CAN use any Materia as explained in the Q&A. They even debunked Universal Link in that one, too. I was even able to change Smash Brackets mind on the Verdict too by pointing them towards that Q&A when they were sure Link had this with the Chateau Romani and Magic Cape, but again, Knights of the Round and a few other counters Cloud had that could make him attack intangible beings.

@Tristendo64

Жыл бұрын

@@Ren31802 It is okay-watch the first version of this Death Battle.

@Tristendo64

Жыл бұрын

@@Ren31802 true. The way they worded the ending (and the fact that they each have won against each other) proves to me that the fight can go either way.

@Tristendo64

Жыл бұрын

@@Ren31802 I don't base the actual details of the fight as things that matter-it's more of the outcome. The fight is really just there to entertain us and the logistics of every detail doesn't matter as much. I actually agree with you and think that shouldn't be possible but that wasn't the point of the fight.

@chadikhr7258

Жыл бұрын

@@Ren31802 lmfao bruh bro really watched this vid and said ''i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that'' link simps lmao as for cloud simps they surley are eating good tonight

You forgot Link’s greatest move: When he’s crouching, you can make him do the Duck Walk. Cool, huh?

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

2 жыл бұрын

*I bet that's worth a kiss, huh?*

@-.DIO.-

2 жыл бұрын

They forgot the Lamp Oil, Rope, and Bombs he had which all cost rupees

@warlordofvideogameglitches

2 жыл бұрын

@@-.DIO.- including the armor that is powered by rupees

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

2 жыл бұрын

@@-.DIO.- he didn't have enough rupees and Morshu can't give credit, so he had to come back when he was a little *mmm* richer. That's why he was breaking pots during the fight.

@Sly_Maverick_19

2 жыл бұрын

CD-I Mario: No?

So cloud and tifa can survive supernovas (if you have her in your party) butya won't give that scaling to her vs the yang fight.

@ikeillue8385

11 ай бұрын

Thats because the Tifa vs Yang fight was an advertisement for RWBY, not an actual death battle. I mean, even using the blatantly inflated feats for Yang, and the blatantly low balled feats for Tifa that they gave in that video (literally only using the numbers they themselves gave), Tifa's final heaven still should have hit Yang for almost 20x her best durability calc.

@troodontalon5990

11 ай бұрын

Adding to Ike's comment: it's also important to note that Yang vs Tifa came out six years before this episode did. Ben Singer, one of the show's main creators, has described that time period of the show as "before we knew what we were doing" and even admitted outright in the Q&A for this episode that Yang vs Tifa's result was incorrect.

14:29 makes link genuinely intimidating and i love it!

@valor1omega

11 ай бұрын

He was not intimidating at all.

@samthefaustmain4068

11 ай бұрын

Emerald weapon is scarier

They forgot the most important rune of all: the camera rune.

@gmtwj-fye7898

2 жыл бұрын

explain?

@bluefirefox5343

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmtwj-fye7898 selfies

@faceache3466

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think that was supposed to be a joke

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

In Age of Calamity, it’s stupidly powerful.

@RevilloPhoenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think it's a reference to the original Link vs Cloud death battle where Link just blocks the onislash v5 simply by Z targeting lock on to keep turning at cloud with his shield. Using a meta game mechanic instead of a character feat as the match winning move.

Real reason Link lost was because he was fighting with his right hand

@pol024524

2 жыл бұрын

:O

@brownie8029

2 жыл бұрын

Now I see why he won the first fight.

@oonkymppa5923

2 жыл бұрын

He was going easy because Cloud needed to have a chance

@Fine793meadow

2 жыл бұрын

@@oonkymppa5923 No he did not,if he uses the dark god mask than it proves he is going all out

@oonkymppa5923

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fine793meadow ever tried using your non-dominant hand? 100x less effective

Coming back to this after a while makes me enjoy this I remember I first saw that link lost and was pissed but now I like the fight it was cool and enjoyable

to be fair with the laser dodging feat, the beamos does take a moment to start actually firing the laser, then adjusts its aim. The beam might be light speed, but the aiming eye is far from it.

Totally inaccurate. Cloud never asked for his money.

@plusultra12001

2 жыл бұрын

Completely inaccurate. But your reasons is questionable

@Rebel_Friend

2 жыл бұрын

We never did see what kind of loot Link dropped, so maybe he dropped some rupees. The real challenge would be to exchange said rupees for gil.

Jeez, people weren’t kidding about the part where Cloud falls on the rocks.

@OidBuddy

2 жыл бұрын

Ah I thought I would go ahead and spoil myself and see who would win. But you actually made me think link actually won.

Ancient arrows: deletes anything Link: shoots only one at Clouds bike

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

To be fair, that was only because they actually wanted to show the arrow doing something, since hitting Cloud with it wouldn't actually do anything. Using both LOZ logic (ancient arrow doesn't get its instant kill effect on more powerful enemies, such as bosses and Guardians), and FFVII logic (Cloud literally has immunity to instant death effects, and if you want to argue the semantics of "banishing to another dimension", which is the kiddy version of saying "it kills them", Cloud still has battle field removal materia that sends enemies, or more importantly in this case himself, through dimensions.), ancient arrows are only damaging Cloud at absolute best.

@marinohector9106

10 ай бұрын

You already posted that comment and made a complete fool of yourself in the ensuing debate.

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

@@marinohector9106 I'm guessing you are one of the people I discussed with, who decided that I was "making a fool of myself" because you couldn't handle the fact that I didn't accept your head canon as fact? I don't know why you would consider it "making a fool of myself" otherwise, since I only bring up canon material to make my points.

@cantthinkofausername5848

10 ай бұрын

​@@ikeillue8385 I'm pretty sure that guy was replying to the original comment. At least it makes more sense that way.

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

@@cantthinkofausername5848 You know, now that you mention it, that is entirely possible. I've just had a number of people who get bent out of shape toward me, because they don't like my stance. But if thats the case, then I owe him an apology. :)

Wait, how does Link know how to ride a motorcycle if he's from a different universe with no vehicles such as cars or trucks?

@sabin97

7 ай бұрын

the same way clouds sword could somehow slice through the triforce......and the many links didnt use their hook shots. the writers wanted it that way. and thus it happened.

Pots: *exist* Link: “and I took it personally”

@PlasticChairVergil

2 жыл бұрын

Link: *Breaks pots* Cloud: And I took that personally

Ah, having this premiere a day before Nintendo’s E3, how oddly poetic.

@TheShadow1347

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@Silent_Fool

2 жыл бұрын

This episode also came out after Intergrade.

@maibignutt6434

2 жыл бұрын

they probably did that on purpose since we'll potentially get some botw 2 news during e3 lol

@madias1884

2 жыл бұрын

It would be funny if link loses then in e3 Nintendo makes link op

@madias1884

2 жыл бұрын

Like links glowing hand could destroy stars or something it would be funny if Nintendo makes link obsurdly op once botw 2 comes out

The fact that we can actually have party vs party fights in Legend of Zelda vs Final Fantasy now makes me happy.

@ronandread5141

Жыл бұрын

There was no outside help still, link used the four swords ability which allows him to extend different clones of himself .

@seanpazdera6407

Жыл бұрын

@@ronandread5141 What are you talking about? I meant the Hyrule Warriors game squads and Cadence of Hyrule.

Amazing battle

I just love how when Link was smashing pots, he used one as a weapon. At that point, I didn’t care who won I just loved the accuracy of that

"Looks great in a dress" Cloud: Nailed it, I know. Thank you. Moving on.

@justarandomguy54

2 жыл бұрын

That was a great line.

@thespicyelixr6021

2 жыл бұрын

@@justarandomguy54 Nailed it, I know moving on.

@jonathanflanagan1504

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot the thank you. EDIT: Nice.

@thespicyelixr6021

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanflanagan1504 Like I give a crap

@LEAF265

2 жыл бұрын

I get the reference!!!

a lot of things just happened right now that i cant comprehend

finally, my man cloud gets justice from the last time

i love how link just straight up stopped fighting so he could break pottery

@novacorponline

2 жыл бұрын

If you pay attention, you'll notice that the "collecting a heart" sound plays during that part too; the pots aren't just decoration he arbitrarily hates, they are functioning as item drops for him.

@neverknown2054

2 жыл бұрын

Admittedly, i didn’t notice the sound. I just wanted to go with the meme that he hates ceramics

@eliazararevalo6924

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta get them rupe rupe’s

@jerrysdump4723

Жыл бұрын

That boy sure is a pothead.

I didn’t even care who would win, this battle was lit! Especially when Fierce Deity Link rose up from the rubble! Hearing the power in those footsteps and his approach was just Godly!! Awesome job animators!

@JaelinBezel

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the bit of Link using the Song of Storms to fling lightning.

So what changed between this version and the 2012 version? I know Final Fantasy VII Remake was released, was it stuff from that that changed things? It looks like a lot of the stuff they were referencing for Cloud were in the older versions too. Have they just heard more convincing arguments in Cloud's favour since then. It would be great to have this change in position addressed by them directly.

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

The thing that changed was their research standards. Cloud was their first RPG character in Death Battle, and that means there is a lot of player choice in what powers and what not they have. Because of this, in the original, they chose to create an "iconic" version of Cloud. Basically, its the character that most people think of, when they think of Cloud. The problems with that is, they used that as their standard, instead of looking at his actual feats and arsenal. Essentially, it turned Cloud from a solar system level, multi thousand times light speed moving expert warrior with a hugely versatile arsenal, into a guy with a big sword. Link has dealt with guys with big swords before, so the "iconic" version of Cloud they used lost.

At least Link had a fighting chance with all of his new abilities despite his Flurry Rush not being shown

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

You would be surprised how little of a chance Link stands, regardless of what abilities are included.

@georgemercer402

10 ай бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 Maybe, but it DOES pay to be versatile

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

@@georgemercer402 You would also be surprised at how massively outclassed Link is in versatility too. People often look at Link as the versatile character between these two, but the fact is, materia is so absurdly versatile, that it makes Link look like a one trick pony by comparison.

@georgemercer402

10 ай бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 Unfortunately I failed to think that through

@ikeillue8385

10 ай бұрын

@@georgemercer402 Most people do. The thing is, Link is known for being versatile, while Cloud isn't. However, when you actually break it down, Cloud is insanely versatile, despite not being known for it.