Lesson 7: More! Generally Accepted Titanic Facts

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  • @TitanicUniversity
    @TitanicUniversity4 жыл бұрын

    Correction: Bruce Ismay died 17 October 1937 To hear Arthur Sullivan's Propior Deo version of NMGTT: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqaL0tqxm8-nerA.html

  • @AndyHappyGuy

    @AndyHappyGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Titanic University why do you ignore your student’s doubts?

  • @jancko995

    @jancko995

    4 жыл бұрын

    Question. About telegrams? telegraphs?... Were they like in the movie? or did 1 telegram had port and starboard commands? (so you didn't have to run to the other side,..like in the movies) Why did they turn them to stop and full astern in the movie?

  • @pedrorodriguezmartin

    @pedrorodriguezmartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Podrías poner los videos subtitulados en español ? No puedo verlos porque no esta disponible El modo OPCIONES ,

  • @TheCAFProduction

    @TheCAFProduction

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, I have a question in regards of the correct orders Murdoch's made. I do believe he ordered stop, but I found out that Boxhall wasn't the only person to have claimed the engines were in reverse. In a 1957 interview, Quartermaster George Rowe, who was standing on the poop deck at the time of the collision, said "The engines were going Full Speed Astern, and so I put the log in." I suppose he allegedly saw this on one of the telegraphs on the docking bridge. Here's the interview: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIqAy7yoZrPRkc4.html. I'm just curious about this and would like to hear your take on it.

  • @dalcon555
    @dalcon5554 жыл бұрын

    "if you don't agree with any of these, leave a comment and I'll ignore it" caught me way the heck off guard, lol

  • @cloudcraft7153

    @cloudcraft7153

    4 жыл бұрын

    David Buck I laughed so much!

  • @TheTitanic448

    @TheTitanic448

    4 жыл бұрын

    David. Buck. I. Think. I’. Agree

  • @johnbockelie3899

    @johnbockelie3899

    3 жыл бұрын

    The movie " Titanic " 1997, makes it look like Captain Smith just gave up , and went down with the ship.

  • @DarthMeteos
    @DarthMeteos4 жыл бұрын

    Tell me more about the Toyota Corolla/Titanic switch theory, please

  • @RockyRacoon5

    @RockyRacoon5

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm interested.

  • @NorthWestern1919

    @NorthWestern1919

    4 жыл бұрын

    You fools. The Titanic was switched with the canoe in my backyard.

  • @TheSportscar86

    @TheSportscar86

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its was the Corolla, it was a Sequoia.

  • @danielbishop1863

    @danielbishop1863

    4 жыл бұрын

    There may be one in kzread.info/dash/bejne/nn53tsOsqLKfcs4.html

  • @Shaggyshadric

    @Shaggyshadric

    4 жыл бұрын

    Incorrect, the Titanic was actually switched with... The Titanic. There’s no time to explain here, but a voyage across multiple dimensions was involved

  • @chuckferrel5482
    @chuckferrel54824 жыл бұрын

    10:55 the Morse code on the screen says “If you can read this comment below STOP” My grandfather was in the Air Force during the Korean War and he had to learn Morse code because he was in the communication system. He still remembers it and so he taught it to me a few years ago so we could have conversations in it.

  • @sheilahanford1309

    @sheilahanford1309

    4 жыл бұрын

    thats cool

  • @mrbadguy5040
    @mrbadguy50404 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know about you, but something about these 3 ships just speaks to me. The design of the ships are just so iconic and they look so pretty too. There is nothing anyone could do to make me dislike the ships.

  • @johnbockelie3899

    @johnbockelie3899

    3 жыл бұрын

    So, Bruce never just jump into a life boat and sneer huh?.

  • @harrietharlow9929

    @harrietharlow9929

    2 жыл бұрын

    @no no no Must politics be dragged even into this?

  • @harrietharlow9929

    @harrietharlow9929

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know how you feel. They really were beautiful with clean, classic line.

  • @TheCAFProduction
    @TheCAFProduction4 жыл бұрын

    My only critique is that this video never revealed why Sven gambled his tickets. XD

  • @mikemancini313

    @mikemancini313

    4 жыл бұрын

    And also he said J Bruce Ismay died in 1938 instead of 1937.

  • @TheSportscar86

    @TheSportscar86

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mikemancini313 Octer 17th, 1937. Maybe Matt figured it was near enough to 1938. Lol

  • @TitanicUniversity

    @TitanicUniversity

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mikemancini313 I think Matt should have done his homework.

  • @Chippermonkey33

    @Chippermonkey33

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Olaf (the fourth guy in that game) apologized to Sven for punching him out after it became apparant that him betting their tickets probably saved their life.

  • @mikemancini313

    @mikemancini313

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TitanicUniversity *Sleeping Sun intensifies*

  • @patrickgomes2213
    @patrickgomes22134 жыл бұрын

    The fun portion of me wants to insert a Titanic/Hindenberg switch joke. Very well done.

  • @mick1545

    @mick1545

    4 жыл бұрын

    That reminds me of how on another channel one guy was seriously suggesting they should have lit a bonfire onboard Titanic to alert nearby ships, and people agreed to this.

  • @ChakatBlackstar

    @ChakatBlackstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mick1545 In hindsight that would not have worked...unless they lit it before they even sent out the first distress signal. A modern day analysis shows that no ship would've been close enough to respond.

  • @jadethornton7975

    @jadethornton7975

    4 жыл бұрын

    dont do it. i left a comment saying that the titanic was switched with a ww1 battle cruiser and that passengers were reported to be sleeping in gun Turrents. People thought i was being serious. just dont do it. If you do you could very well be watching a documentary in the future of the Titanic/Hindenberg switch with attempted evdence of the similarities between them.

  • @AndyHappyGuy

    @AndyHappyGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jade Thornton whoosh em, all of em.

  • @jadethornton7975

    @jadethornton7975

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AndyHappyGuy lol i dare ya

  • @Cheez-It92
    @Cheez-It924 жыл бұрын

    "Feel free to leave a comment, and I'll ignore it." Bwahaha! Though thank you! It is such a breath of fresh air to hear someone defend Ismay. I always felt like he was treated far too harshly. I never knew about the enemy he made in the press, that was good information I hadn't heard. I mean if a ship was sinking and there was room, why not get in the boat? It isn't like he kept anyone else from getting in. I like to think one of the officers told him to get in. That poor man, going down in history as a cruel coward just for not dying.

  • @trydar
    @trydar4 жыл бұрын

    don’t forget about the byzanium in the cargo hold! 😆

  • @ericmorang3903

    @ericmorang3903

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank God for Southby!

  • @ChakatBlackstar

    @ChakatBlackstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many people get that reference without googling it. Or read the actual book.

  • @joefera8947

    @joefera8947

    4 жыл бұрын

    That movie is what got my into Titanic. RIP Cussler.

  • @AndyHappyGuy

    @AndyHappyGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    For those who don’t know: In the film, _Raise the Titanic_ , there was supposedly a rare material stored in the cargo hold of Titanic called _byzanium_ . The U.S. navy wanted to recover the _byzanium_ as they think that it would help them compete with the Soviet Union, so they raised the Titanic.

  • @galoon

    @galoon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joefera8947 Almost exactly the same for me--I read the novel around 1979, which is what got me into Titanic. I was 9 years old at the time. Loved Clive Cussler's books. RIP :-(

  • @mixalism1318
    @mixalism13184 жыл бұрын

    I practically jumped for joy when you pointed out recycled H&W interiors. Not only that, H&W recycled entire ship designs and sold them to others occasionally...

  • @harrietharlow9929

    @harrietharlow9929

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, stay with what works

  • @imagine4414
    @imagine44144 жыл бұрын

    13:55 Thomas Andrews was last seen with Captain Smith on the bridge. That's something we didn't know.

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking3 жыл бұрын

    I was under the impression that prior to the Titanic, most people assumed that pretty much any modern vessel was "practically unsinkable". Captain Smith's famous comments about not being able to imagine a condition under which a modern ship would founder were regarding the Adriatic, when he took her over on her maiden voyage a few years prior to the Titanic.

  • @Daniel_Huffman

    @Daniel_Huffman

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is correct. During Smith’s command of the _Adriatic,_ Dr. Williams, a friend of his, asked what would happen if _Adriatic_ struck a concealed ice reef and was damaged badly. Smith replied, “Some of us would go to the bottom with the ship,” hinting that he would go down with his command if confronted with disaster. Part of me wonders if Smith’s statement about modern shipbuilding was just something to increase the public’s trust in the White Star Line, and not a view he actually had.

  • @tweetypie1978
    @tweetypie19782 жыл бұрын

    I've read both the US and British enquiry transcripts. Took ages but it was so interesting.

  • @DerpyPossum

    @DerpyPossum

    2 жыл бұрын

    i’m kinda jealous

  • @AndyHappyGuy
    @AndyHappyGuy4 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to diss the V-Break theory.

  • @quillmaurer6563

    @quillmaurer6563

    3 жыл бұрын

    The manner in which the ship broke apart is such a big topic he'll probably do an entire video on it sooner or later.

  • @connorpusey5912
    @connorpusey59124 жыл бұрын

    Yes they were called unsinkable, but a lot of it wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Everyone knew that if you put a good enough hole in the thing it would sink. And the claim of “God himself cannot sink Titanic” is very questionable. People today think that the entire public of 1912 was fascinated by the unsinkability of Titanic and were defying God to sink her. That’s not true at all, and it’s a shame that so many today think that. Also, Lusitania and Mauretania were called unsinkable too, as well as many other (at the time) modern ocean liners.

  • @Moakmeister
    @Moakmeister4 жыл бұрын

    I feel so bad for Ismay. The guy literally did nothing wrong and saved a ton of lives that night but we still think he’s a scumbag

  • @HappyRoach1

    @HappyRoach1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel the same for Stanley Lord of the Californian. He did his job by the book, and gets blamed for not coming to Titanic's rescue. We know now that there was cold water mirage which made Titanic look smaller to the crew of the Californian. The Californian wireless operator did warn Titanic's wireless operators about icebergs and was insulted. Since Californian's operator worked for Marconi and his shift was done, it was his right to go to sleep. They tried Morse Lamping and missed each other signals. History showed that Lord was right about Titanic's coordinates (17 miles apart), and even though the Californian was in the area, they were still too far in an environment filled with ice to come to Titanic's rescue. People like to say that Californian could have saved everyone on Titanic, but forget that Californian is a smaller and slower ship filled with cargo. Most nautical experts say had Californian attempted a rescue, they would have arrived the same time as Carpathia (even Carpathia had a hard time finding the survivors because they were given the wrong coordinates). Unfortunately Titanic just wasn't lucky that night.

  • @mr.balloffur

    @mr.balloffur

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HappyRoach1 Ignoring the rockets and not turning on your wireless is unforgivable.

  • @mr.balloffur

    @mr.balloffur

    4 жыл бұрын

    He probably should have told Smith he didn't need that wireless message or return it to the bridge himself.

  • @shawnarmstrong9623

    @shawnarmstrong9623

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I feel bad for looking at Ismay the way I have in the past. Part of me will never accept the fact that he left the titanic in a life boat, but he did try his best for survivors afterwards. It was said in the video people aren’t two dimensional, part of does not know what I would do in a similar situation. It’s hard to say with water coming up the deck what you would do.

  • @xMilkManDanx

    @xMilkManDanx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol. Ismay may have helped passengers into lifeboats but it was HIS COMPANY that short changed the sea trials. It was HIS COMPANY that threw together a scratch crew that barely knew the ship. It was HIS COMPANY that skipped the second lifeboat drill. It was HIS COMPANY that drove the ship full speed into KNOWN ICE DANGER. And if you say “well every ship was doing that”, the Californian stopped for the night. Ismay didn’t ram the berg, but as the chairman of the line, he was on the hook for a whole hell of a lot of the circumstances that led to that event. Then he has the audacity to escape WHEN OTHER FIRST CLASS MEN WERE DENIED A PLACE (Astor).

  • @JJMHigner
    @JJMHigner3 жыл бұрын

    People often forget that the WSL was a huge fleet at the time. It took WW I, age and the Great Depression between them to slowly finish it off.

  • @starwave8228
    @starwave82284 жыл бұрын

    No no i disagree , the last song the band played was Highway to the Dangerzone by Kenny Loggins :P

  • @unspeakableexperiments7699

    @unspeakableexperiments7699

    4 жыл бұрын

    "They learned it. What a bunch of pros!" -- Stewie Griffin

  • @ChakatBlackstar

    @ChakatBlackstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Archer approves of this version of history.

  • @AlexandruCarjan

    @AlexandruCarjan

    4 жыл бұрын

    You meant to say Highway to Hell :P

  • @octolinghackerrules316

    @octolinghackerrules316

    4 жыл бұрын

    Near Ed my God t thee

  • @thestonedabbot9551
    @thestonedabbot95514 жыл бұрын

    I'll have you all know that the band's last song was actually I Will Survive. I heard that from my great-grandfather who died in the sinking

  • @goldencannon5822
    @goldencannon58224 жыл бұрын

    This is my type of school

  • @glenjones9109
    @glenjones91094 жыл бұрын

    Matt I enjoy these TU videos so much I literally look forward to the notification of when it is posted. Great idea starting TU. The narration is fantastic, engaging and has a cool touch of humor. Keep up the great work

  • @NPC_-mf4dw
    @NPC_-mf4dw4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic as always, you have great narration skills and a very pleasant voice with just the right amount of humor mixed into these topics, let alone you always make sure to get the facts right and point out if something just isn't 100% known. This is very responsible and respectful... and the opposite of what 99% of actual documentaries out there do. Spread the word people, share this channel. not even 9k subs is a travesty!

  • @thecunarder7297
    @thecunarder72974 жыл бұрын

    This channel is absolutely amazing, keep up your fantastic work Matt!

  • @himanshu9418
    @himanshu94184 жыл бұрын

    "The truth is found when men are free to pursue it" - Matt DeWinkeleer

  • @Joshua_Knowles_

    @Joshua_Knowles_

    4 жыл бұрын

    the truth is out there

  • @Mamenber
    @Mamenber4 жыл бұрын

    I think the reason so many people want to blame incompetence or greed as a defense mechanism. Because it's terrifying to think that something so horrible just randomly happened, no one specific was to blame, we didn't learn much from the incident, and there would be near identical results should it happen again.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Railfan 765 how about the British Board of Trade? Is it not fair to say that their lack of appropriate regulations on radio operations and lifeboat apportionment doomed over a thousand innocent people out of complacency?

  • @eccentricgamer4111
    @eccentricgamer41114 жыл бұрын

    3:14 I'd love to see more pics of these earlier versions of the Grand Staircase on older ships.

  • @rich_edwards79

    @rich_edwards79

    4 жыл бұрын

    The SS Paris had one, but she was laid down the year after Titanic. Hers was Art Nouveau and absolutely gorgeous, but was destroyed in a fire.

  • @TheSportscar86
    @TheSportscar864 жыл бұрын

    Great job Matt! Keep up the outstanding work!!!

  • @endeavourist5287
    @endeavourist52874 жыл бұрын

    I love the format of this lesson. Could be the best one yet!

  • @LtScarecrow87
    @LtScarecrow874 жыл бұрын

    “Iceberg graze by” ‘About to comment’ (Little angel on my shoulder) “No no, he’s got a point”

  • @Soundwave3591
    @Soundwave35914 жыл бұрын

    14:03 the story of Violet Jessop IS an odd one, given that she survived accidents/incidents on all three of the Olympic class.

  • @Truecrimeresearcher224

    @Truecrimeresearcher224

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would say she was the curse of the white star line

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Truecrimeresearcher224 was her grandfather on SS _Atlantic?_

  • @Astronist
    @Astronist4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Matthew. Here's another little fact that might be interesting: according to Milton Watson in his book “Flagships of the Line” (page 98), the term “practically unsinkable” was applied to the Augusta Victoria of 1889. HAPAG, the owner, printed this term (presumably in German) in a brochure where they stressed the safety features, such as the double bottom and the redundancy built into the engines, of this ship. The Augusta Victoria was the first of a new class of luxury express Atlantic liners, conceived by HAPAG director Albert Ballin. This very much suggests that the claim “practically unsinkable” might well have been a common advertising ploy intended to reassure prospective passengers already two decades before the Titanic, and that when “The Shipbuilder” later described the new Olympic class in the same terms, that journal was merely borrowing an old cliché. Incidentally, not only the Augusta Victoria but also her three sisters - Columbia, Normannia (later L’Aquitaine) and Fürst Bismarck - enjoyed successful fifteen-year careers on the North Atlantic, and ended their days peacefully at the scrapyard.

  • @aroger2486
    @aroger24864 жыл бұрын

    These make alot more sence then alot of the other titanic facts that I've read or seen videos on.

  • @samanthajudd63
    @samanthajudd634 жыл бұрын

    Oh the passive aggressive shade is on point lol. Keep these coming, Matthew, you’re a riot 😂

  • @YourOldUncleNoongah
    @YourOldUncleNoongah3 жыл бұрын

    Thank You Matthew. Ive subscribed because of this video!

  • @stevekerp1
    @stevekerp13 жыл бұрын

    Very nice work, Matthew!

  • @TheSonic1685
    @TheSonic16854 жыл бұрын

    Another myth is that titanic would still be around today and be one of the most famous ocean liners of all time if she never sunk. Uh-huh so famous her identical sister must be huge today. But whenever I mention the Olympic to anyone they tilt their heads in confusion "the what?". Also titanic would've been scrapped anyway.

  • @nathangottschalk1049
    @nathangottschalk10494 жыл бұрын

    @ 10:48 if the actor looks familiar he is. For fans of NCIS it is David McCallum or Dr. Donald “Ducky” Mallard.

  • @TitanicHorseRacingLover
    @TitanicHorseRacingLover4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Great job.

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca4 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Matt. Sadly, most "Titanic Enthusiasts" are only interested in what they see in a movie rather than fact. Really enjoyed this video.

  • @jackrabbit5047
    @jackrabbit50473 жыл бұрын

    Just discovered your channel. Lots of fun!

  • @paddy279
    @paddy2794 жыл бұрын

    About 15 years ago, as a primaryschool child, I had a little obsession with Titanic and now in 2020 yt suggests me this channel and I found a PowerMetal concept-album about the Titanic. Maybe the internet wants to tell me something?? 😅

  • @johnbockelie3899

    @johnbockelie3899

    3 жыл бұрын

    " Not even God could sink The Titanic!!". God : " Hold my Ale."

  • @Titanic19127
    @Titanic19127 Жыл бұрын

    It was a luxurious ship for sure.

  • @silvertbird1
    @silvertbird1 Жыл бұрын

    Generally speaking, I imagine every ship ever constructed from the beginning of shipbuilding was designed to be unsinkable. Excepting perhaps submarines…and the rowboat with the Flex Seal screen door for a bottom.

  • @RJ_Productions316
    @RJ_Productions3163 жыл бұрын

    If there was ever a historical figure I HATED more than life itself. It's William Randolph Hurst.

  • @brianbommarito3376
    @brianbommarito33764 жыл бұрын

    (This is meant as a joke, btw). In a geriatric home in Louisiana in 2005, a patient in his 90’s suffering from Alzheimer’s says: “My name is Frank ‘Lucky’ Towers, and I survived the Titanic disaster, the Empress of Island sinking, the Lusitania torpedoing, the Hindenburg explosion, the Andrea Doria capsizing, 9/11, and served in both world wars. I might also have survived Noah’s Flood and the Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but I can’t remember.” Then Hurricane Katrina hits. “Oh, no, here we go again!”

  • @madmanmapper
    @madmanmapper4 жыл бұрын

    14:50 Here's the real conspiracy theory: why is this photo backwards, and why did the photographer erase a man from it?

  • @dougross51
    @dougross514 жыл бұрын

    I asked Don Lynch that question about Captain Smith being proactive yesterday and he seems to think that Captain Smith wasn't as proactive as he could have been. Of course he also said he had lots of arguments with people about it over the years.

  • @TitanicUniversity

    @TitanicUniversity

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could he have done more? Perhaps. I think that is subjective too. It's hindsight.

  • @dougross51

    @dougross51

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TitanicUniversity Well, it may be hindsight, but Don Lynch to me is like the godfather of Titanic historians with over 40 years of studying Titanic history, so I think I am going to side with him on this one sorry.

  • @dougross51

    @dougross51

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh the Captain Smith of Titanic historians!

  • @PedanticGaming
    @PedanticGaming4 жыл бұрын

    What I find quite interesting is that most of these facts were portrayed with quite a degree of accuracy in A Night To Remember, discounting the break and Andrew's last moments, I find that film remarkable in how even handed it portrays everyone from Captain Smith to Bruce Ismay... with the possible exception that they overstated Lightollers importance. I do enjoy the fact that, in the scene where the last collapsible is being lowered off the officer's quarters, the actors playing Murdoch and Moody are actually there when the wave comes up. They were trying to follow where these men were reported as best they could... though why Wilde and Pitman are ignored I dont know. What a great film that is.

  • @thomasfuller5932
    @thomasfuller59323 жыл бұрын

    “Time travelers” (shows Jack) Film Theory: Its just a theory!

  • @benthye8608
    @benthye86083 жыл бұрын

    I rarely post comments... but you do such an outstanding job on these! Your voice is great, the humor is great ("post and I will ignore it". Lol!) the music is perfect and... You actually have real facts. Not "alternative facts" either! Bravo! KZread is mostly a wasteland bereft of knowledge. But.... You are working on it! :-)

  • @adrianghandtchi1562
    @adrianghandtchi15624 жыл бұрын

    15:05-15:25 finally a close up of the domes light. Before you guys, I didn’t know that there was a light up there, now I can see it was cut class not beaded either.

  • @bart7309

    @bart7309

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the dome (like the stained glass windows in the dining room) was back lit with a circle of light bulbs above it.

  • @seanpruitt6801
    @seanpruitt68014 жыл бұрын

    This is great

  • @sheilahanford1309
    @sheilahanford13094 жыл бұрын

    you always make great titanic videos,could you make a britannic video about the changes from her early sisters

  • @mattperiolat
    @mattperiolat4 жыл бұрын

    The Astor one surprises me! I’d always thought he was crushed by the fall of the first funnel, but I only know that story through Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy. Enlighten, please!

  • @Iconoclasher
    @Iconoclasher4 жыл бұрын

    It's simple. Oswald sank the Titanic. He flew to earth from Nibiru in his flying saucer. He did a practice "fly-by" and zapped the Titanic with his laser cannon. Then he hung around the Bermuda triangle a few years til his saucer crashed in Roswell. He survived and later assassinated JFK. It's so obvious, ain't it?? 😂 👍 Thanks for a great video!

  • @SkyKing58318

    @SkyKing58318

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait, WHAT? You mean...oh hell, I have to show this to my wife...she accuses me of...oh...is she gonna get it, now I got PROOF! Thanks James, I've FINALLY been vindicated. SUSAN! SUSAN, WE GOTTA TALK...

  • @Iconoclasher

    @Iconoclasher

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SkyKing58318 🤣

  • @GG-hu9dn
    @GG-hu9dn4 жыл бұрын

    Generally accepted fact about Titanic : it sank!

  • @Daniel_Huffman
    @Daniel_Huffman4 жыл бұрын

    The closest connection I have to the _Titanic_ is my address: 401. Also, why were the collapsibles lettered A-D instead of being numbered 17-20?

  • @cat-a-tonic150

    @cat-a-tonic150

    4 жыл бұрын

    My address also has those numbers but not in the same order. Hmmm, maybe they were ...

  • @JagerLange

    @JagerLange

    4 жыл бұрын

    I believe it's because they are in theory moveable/portable, and constitute a different lettering - so that A/B/C/D can be across the ship, without 17/18/19/20 implying they're located in any sort of order. I could be wrong about this though.

  • @danielbishop1863

    @danielbishop1863

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it would suck if someone gets told to go to "Boat 17", and they look for it in vain aft of 13 and 15, not realizing they should have gone forwards by Boats 1 and 3. In an emergency situation, you've got to keep things as un-confusing as possible.

  • @arciks11
    @arciks114 жыл бұрын

    "Humans usually are not flat and one dimensional." *Shows footage of Cameron's Titanic*

  • @hawkerhellfire9152
    @hawkerhellfire91524 жыл бұрын

    One correction, I believe Ismay retired to Galway, which isn't in England. :P

  • @JasonFlattTiller16401

    @JasonFlattTiller16401

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. It should also be noted that his resignation from White Star had nothing to do with the Titanic disaster. In fact Ismay's departure from the company was put in place, two months prior.

  • @pourquoicamarchepas
    @pourquoicamarchepas4 жыл бұрын

    do you know who is the removed guy at 14:50 ? what reason would motivate them to erase the presence of a worker on a simple picture ?

  • @generalgrievous2202

    @generalgrievous2202

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was probably doing something considered unsightly. Like picking his nose, or wiping his hands on his clothes.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean the guy who looks blurry and translucent? That's not an attempted airbrushing-he was just moving during the exposure. Remember, that photo would have been on an emulsion plate, which required at least a few seconds to properly expose. Remember, this was before the age of rolling shutters and lossless digital image codecs.

  • @omegazerotg17
    @omegazerotg174 жыл бұрын

    Will there be an Olympic and or Britannic themed Titanic University video? I'd love to learn more about Titanic's sisters, especially my favorite one Britannic!

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude69063 жыл бұрын

    10:41 a very young Agent Steel from Sapphire and Steel (Played by David McCallum).

  • @NorthernHandle
    @NorthernHandle4 жыл бұрын

    2:10 It definitely was luxurious but not the only one. It looks absolutely fabulous.

  • @anormalcommentor9452
    @anormalcommentor94524 жыл бұрын

    Hi Titanic University. Could you do a What If Britannic Never Sank? I would be interested to see how much time her private baths would by her until it's an unprofitable mess. Please consider it. Love your videos!

  • @Gamer-ln4yx

    @Gamer-ln4yx

    4 жыл бұрын

    a normal commentor if she never sank. She would be in passenger service However she will still be scrapped in the same year as Olympic

  • @carlosiiideespana3712

    @carlosiiideespana3712

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gamer101 Not necessarily, due to her abundance of private bathrooms she may have survived longer and would be scrapped in 1950 along with Aquitania.

  • @anormalcommentor9452

    @anormalcommentor9452

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@carlosiiideespana3712 I wonder how she would act beyond 1935 is what I'm really interested because of the baths you mentioned I wonder if it would be saved when the book A Night To Remember came out if scrapping was slow or delayed

  • @mattmcfarland9154
    @mattmcfarland91543 жыл бұрын

    Reversing the engines is the last thing you would want to do because you would be drawing water to the rudder and when that water becomes stationary around the rudder and then you dont have any control with th steerage and the ships going to go in the direction it pleases.

  • @user-mv9tt4st9k
    @user-mv9tt4st9k4 жыл бұрын

    Hearst was a menace. 🙄

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a reason Orson Welles and Bruce Feirstein thought he would make a great film villain.

  • @randomrazr
    @randomrazr4 жыл бұрын

    if i remmber correctly, the time to go full steam stern would have taken a WHILE to do. so the engines never actualyl revsered?

  • @mick1545

    @mick1545

    4 жыл бұрын

    That´s what they say nowadays apparently. However until quite recently it was accepted commonplace that the engines DID reverse, not sure if it was only Officer Boxhall´s statement that this assumption was based on. Is Fireman Barrett the only source stating the opposite to qualify the new assumption, or is there perhaps more evidence (witnesses)for this? I mean apart from the reasoning, that reversing would have not made any sense and that Officer Murdoch would have known this, and acted accordingly.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Current forensics suggest the engines wouldn't have even completely stopped until about forty seconds _after_ the collision.

  • @colton10
    @colton103 жыл бұрын

    Do another one of these

  • @JJMHigner
    @JJMHigner3 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Can you do a video on the proposed 'Homeric' concept-- or, the fourth sistership or, alternately, the world's first 1,000 foot long ship in the planning stage just before and during WW I?

  • @thesinkingplane7466
    @thesinkingplane74664 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. When Titanic was departing Queenstown, in the photograph there was a banner-looking thing on the open promenade. Do you know what that is?

  • @BNStudios1

    @BNStudios1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can see it in Fr. Browne's last photograph of the ship - there appears to be something blocking the upper portion of the forward section of the A-deck open promenade - I seem to remember reading something about it a while ago but cannot seem to find anything about it now!

  • @mick1545

    @mick1545

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have been wondering the same! Thanks for bringing this up! Only a little detail, but made me curious.....what is this? ;)

  • @mick1545

    @mick1545

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BNStudios1 It´s also visible in Ken Marshall´s painting of the same situation in Queenstown. I guess the painting was of course based on the photograph taken.

  • @BNStudios1

    @BNStudios1

    4 жыл бұрын

    It can be seen most clearly in this image i.pinimg.com/originals/30/8e/5d/308e5d0a98ae1fc6583ca4b9522b4e1b.jpg

  • @mick1545

    @mick1545

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BNStudios1 That was the picture/painting I was having in mind. It looks like some sort of windshield they could roll down, perhaps.

  • @xMilkManDanx
    @xMilkManDanx4 жыл бұрын

    14:31 According to Wyn Craig Wade’s book, Astor was crushed by the funnel. When was that disproven?

  • @joefera8947

    @joefera8947

    4 жыл бұрын

    When his body was found, it had no evidence of being crushed.

  • @Daniel_Huffman

    @Daniel_Huffman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joefera8947 Not only that, but besides the natural decomposition from floating in the ocean for about a month, his body was in remarkably good condition. _If_ he was crushed, the crew of the _Mackay-Bennett_ would probably have been unable to recognize him. And, yes, he was identified by effects on him, but in this scenario, I’d imagine that they’d be in bad shape too. In fact, I’d say that if Astor was crushed, his body would have been buried at sea, much like the body of, for example, Chief Purser McElroy. Despite what the press may tell you that first-class were prioritized, the crew’s decisions on which bodies to bury at sea were based on their condition, not class. There were plenty of first and second-class bodies that they buried at sea, and many third-class bodies that were kept aboard and taken to Halifax.

  • @thebunkerparodie6368
    @thebunkerparodie63684 жыл бұрын

    Can you talk more about olympic class design evolution?

  • @ijnfleetadmiral
    @ijnfleetadmiral4 жыл бұрын

    No idea if this can be confirmed or not, but was Captain Smith going to retire after Titanic's return maiden voyage, or would he have remained in command until Britannic was ready, then taken her on her maiden voyage as well? I once heard that Smith would've remained in command of Titanic "until a larger, grander ship was ready". Is there any way to know if there's any truth to that?

  • @angelhelp6819
    @angelhelp68194 жыл бұрын

    When the Titanic sank you didn't know that the stunts the Titanic split in two of the inspection joint plus the water the watertight doors and the Buckhead if they had water pumps with pump out the water out not the newest ships have

  • @angelocorradino8720
    @angelocorradino87202 жыл бұрын

    Actually, Titanic was rammed by a special U boat made entirely out of ice as a clever disguise. It was also 100 percent unmanned thanks to the new innovations in ice technology at the time.

  • @Michael-hz2pl
    @Michael-hz2pl4 жыл бұрын

    I was watching a documentary on a DVD of A Night to Remember that I have where one of the people being interviewed said that Eva Hart “swore” that it was 1958 film’s version when it came to being asked about the version. That’s the only source I have though. It came on a DVD of A Night to Remember that I bought back in 2006. I’m going along with what Titanic Honor and Glory’s team says, because I do believe them to be the most accurate, but I am curious, did Eva Hart actually say anything about the version of the hymn?

  • @Wolfric_Rogers
    @Wolfric_Rogers4 жыл бұрын

    14:18, the Titanic could not have broken in two like that, here is why: If the ship had broken from the top-down, the bow section wouldn't have hung off the stern section by the keel because it wasn't that strong. If that had happened, the keel would have snapped almost instantly but the bow section would still start swinging downwards and dislodging the boilers, but ALL of the bow section's boilers are still on their beds. If the ship had broken from the top-down, the stern section would've caused a huge splash, but a few survivor accounts comment on the fact that there wasn't one. Most people don't take the Titanic's expansion joints into account, they were made to allow the ship to bend. Here are some other interesting things about the breakup: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZupl6-omZWtdbA.html

  • @flametitan100
    @flametitan1004 жыл бұрын

    I've seen one hypothesis (besides that he was simply wrong, which is still probably the most likely) about why Boxhall reported engines Astern that's based on a variation of rudder cycling (a way of stopping the ship before _eventually_ putting it into reverse,) but with the current evidence we have, we probably can never confirm that's what happened, and it's safer to say it was just engines stopped.

  • @NorthernHandle
    @NorthernHandle4 жыл бұрын

    The J.J Astor fact was a surprise to me. I always thought he died in the Staircase before I found out that he was crushed by the first funnel...

  • @samighidini7070

    @samighidini7070

    4 жыл бұрын

    he just said that Astor WASN'T crushed by the funnel though

  • @NorthernHandle

    @NorthernHandle

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sami Ghidini no the staircase was the place I thought he originally died but I was told otherwise a while back.

  • @Chippermonkey33
    @Chippermonkey334 жыл бұрын

    Sure. There was someone at the WTC on 9/11 that was old enough to be a survivor of something that happened almost 90 years earlier. There is also no record a passenger named Frank Tower on the Titanic, Empress of Ireland, and Lusitania, let alone someone that survived all three.

  • @loganrossignol
    @loganrossignol4 жыл бұрын

    Matt, you and the team have gone on QM2 before, right? I really want to do at least one crossing in the next few years, but I have such a hard time doing it because I'm pretty sure 90% of the passengers are above the age of 50 and I'm not sure what would keep me occupied beyond trying to tour the ship and see the cool areas like the bridge and stuff if they'd let me.

  • @itsrockyiv8209
    @itsrockyiv82094 жыл бұрын

    Titanic is just chilling at the bottom rn

  • @declansheehan1768
    @declansheehan17684 жыл бұрын

    My bad if hypotheticals are too much of a rabbit hole to dive into but what do folks have to say about the claim that the disaster could've been avoided hadbthe iceberg been spotted just 30 seconds earlier. Also apparently there's a claim she could've stayed afloat had the ship rammed the iceberg head on, but some iirc had argued "Who would want to go down in history as the person who rammed head first into an iceberg?"

  • @ChakatBlackstar

    @ChakatBlackstar

    4 жыл бұрын

    That last one is true. Porting around an object to avoid collision was standard practice. Deviating from it would be quite disastrous for that person's career, even if it had saved the ship.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChakatBlackstar it wouldn't have saved the ship either. It would have warped her frame so badly the bulkhead doors may not have been able to close, not to mention knocking out all power completely. It would have been like the situation in _Futility_ if not worse. As for avoiding the collision by just another thirty seconds' warning? In all likelihood, yes, it would have worked. With how light the impact was, it's reasonable to say that the turn necessary to avoid the collision was almost complete. Another half minute would have been plenty of time to clear it. Just another tragic near-success that could have saved so many that night.

  • @vanguard6498
    @vanguard64984 жыл бұрын

    14:57 CMON THUNDERRRCHILLLDD!

  • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial

    @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial

    4 жыл бұрын

    oh look a mosley supporter

  • @pierrickb58
    @pierrickb583 жыл бұрын

    I keep wondering where do you get those high resolution pictures of both Olympic and Titanic. I've been searching for some to print ant frame but they're quite expensive. Would gladly accept any indications where to find some.

  • @nathangottschalk1049
    @nathangottschalk10494 жыл бұрын

    I have a question for @Titanic University. So we see many photos of titanic stern bridge what would of operations been like using the bridge. So I know it would of been used for docking and such. What would those operation be like on titanic how many officers would have been their and just other types of things that would of gone on while it was in use

  • @secretsmysteries8338
    @secretsmysteries83384 жыл бұрын

    What of the notebook in which the lifeboats both planned and actual for the class were altered with literal stokes of the pen? Source: castles of the sea part 2 on my other channel Justin Higner.

  • @mark_chirnside

    @mark_chirnside

    4 жыл бұрын

    There isn't one. See: www.markchirnside.co.uk/pdfs/Titanic_Lifeboat_FalseClaims.pdf

  • @adisiowy
    @adisiowy4 жыл бұрын

    I love Titanic University! Thank you for your work! ❤️ This ship has been my obsession since I was 6. I agree with 100% of these facts. However, as my profession and degree is acting, I need to point only one thing - sometimes, and only sometimes, it’s a little little difficult to understand you. But only sometimes. Consider of improving your diction just a little bit. I’m sorry, it’s not hate, just a small suggestion from your faithful student. ❤️

  • @thunderjet4294
    @thunderjet42944 жыл бұрын

    I hate to do it Matthew but I have to say your like my childhood hero but real... Fox Mulder the truth is out there... Keep up the good work.. and p.s. you guys could make a killing selling operational light fixtures that are replicas of the Titanic I know a lot of people that would but them

  • @yipthemechanicalfox7822
    @yipthemechanicalfox78224 жыл бұрын

    Hey there, I was wondering what your opinion of the Titanic Museum in Pigeon Forge, TN is!

  • @eathan323
    @eathan3233 жыл бұрын

    I have long been thinking if the titanic hit the iceburg head on would that have helped the ship with either not sinking or have had lasted longer afloat to have saved all the passengers and crew

  • @DerpyPossum

    @DerpyPossum

    3 жыл бұрын

    if Titanic hit the berg head-on, the bow would’ve crumpled like an accordion, crushing and killing anyone inside, and (possibly) would’ve sunk even faster.

  • @Bluegoose-df7if
    @Bluegoose-df7if3 жыл бұрын

    5:30 let me fix that Olympic of the white star line was the unsinkable ship

  • @thomasmckinney9425
    @thomasmckinney94254 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious as to where the nursery was aboard Titanic or if it even existed. I can't find any references other than passengers stating it existed, and a single reference from one of my books saying it replaced the starboard side verandah and palm court. However, I believe there was a photo that father Brown took showing the starboard vpc and it was a distant shot that still showed dining tables. Does anybody have a source? Thanks!!!

  • @runawaysmudger7181
    @runawaysmudger71814 жыл бұрын

    Could use some info about whether Ismay really took part in changing the outdated lifeboat regulations after the sinking or not. that oughtta help putting his record straight

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    He didn't, but _Olympic's_ designer, Alexander Carlisle, did his damnedest-he even quit H&W to go work for a davit manufacturing firm designing bigger and better systems for launching more boats.

  • @IntrepidMilo
    @IntrepidMilo4 жыл бұрын

    All things that happen on a ship are the sole responsibility of the captain. Where or not you think it is fair or right or even agree with this, Captain Smith is responsible for the Titanic disaster.

  • @dougross51

    @dougross51

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think if he had lived his career would have definitely been over there's just no way he would have been able to continue with the White Star line given the amount of deaths The public's perception of a disaster and the newspapers relentless coverage. He would have definitely lost his master license if he had lived.

  • @IntrepidMilo

    @IntrepidMilo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or worse he would have been charged with manslaughter and sent to prison.

  • @starwave8228
    @starwave82284 жыл бұрын

    Question. When Titanic was sinking i have seen different depictions of her power outages, some showing the power fluctuating wildly and some depictions showing a more consistent flow of power ? - i don't know why this question was deleted so i'll write it again.

  • @DarthMeteos

    @DarthMeteos

    4 жыл бұрын

    The power likely did fluctuate. There was a general trend of the lights dimming more and more as the power level dropped. Late in the sinking, there's testimony of the lights flickering, and earlier on people saw lights on under the water.

  • @starwave8228

    @starwave8228

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've seen different fluctuations, some depictions show the occasional outage that lasts up to a minute or two with no power, while others show a less aggressive fluctuation. In Saving the Titanic docu drama theres no power for a good few minutes shown.

  • @DarthMeteos

    @DarthMeteos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@starwave8228 Saving the Titanic is a drama first and an accurate depiction second. It's very exciting, but it has a lot of inaccuracies. Any moment to moment fluctuation is really guesswork. We just don't know.

  • @starwave8228

    @starwave8228

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah theres a bit where the Electricians have to divert power and the stokers are willing the Lamps to come back on after being off for a moment, its quite a tense scene. i enjoyed Saving the Titanic for its perspective of the crew below deck.

  • @JoeLikesTrains
    @JoeLikesTrains3 жыл бұрын

    Question: when i search up "The iceberg that sank titanic" i see tons of pictures of pointy shaped bergs, and then i see another article, claiming that a man saw an iceberg a few miles away from the site where titanic sank, but he didnt know at the time that titanic had sunk, and he allegedly saw red paint on the iceberg, indicating that a ship collided with it. So, Red paint, ship collision, few miles from Titanic sinking area... Seems legit right? what do you think? What baffles me is the fact that this was apparently 6 hours after titanic sank and this man didnt see any bodies laying around in the water.

  • @dannybaseball5549
    @dannybaseball55493 жыл бұрын

    I have a question about NMGTT song . Was Wallace Hartley the only one playing the song or was the rest of the band playing and if the band was playing would they have to play the version of NMGTT they all knew?

  • @tyler.carhartt
    @tyler.carhartt4 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy i really just spent 10 minutes decoding that morse code

  • @randomrazr
    @randomrazr4 жыл бұрын

    if titanic didnt stop engine would it turn faster? since the center properllor wouldnt handy cap the rudder if it stopped

  • @evanb244

    @evanb244

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is correct: the easiest way to get a high rate of turn in a ship is to put the rudder over with the engine operating ahead. However, flat plate rudders (like the Titanic's), are incredibly inefficient; modern rudders are foils that produce a sideways 'lift' when turned. This is more or less a moot point, however, as a ship at sea speed takes a LOT of effort to turn, and in this case likely only would have shifted the point of impact further aft (ships turn from the stern), unless the maneuver was started much sooner. In addition, even with a rudder hard over, it is counter-intuitive to add MORE throttle when you are pointing at danger, unless it was planned. Source: I am a licensed ship's officer

  • @jeanscuissiato135

    @jeanscuissiato135

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@evanb244 What you said is incorrect by the simple fact that the engines didn't stopped immediately.

  • @DistractedGlobeGuy

    @DistractedGlobeGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeanscuissiato135 and also that the turbine didn't run _except_ at low speeds. It was meant for performing tight manoeuvres in harbours, not longhaul drives at sea.