Leela doesn't use NNUE, used only by the classical engines, which use alpha-beta pruning, to advance their evaluation function using efficiently computed on CPU neural networks. Leela uses Monte-Carlo Tree Search with the deep neural network, which uses a GPU to perform an inference

@goodforyou9596

2 ай бұрын

Went over my head

@ujjwalprakash3170

2 ай бұрын

Smjh me ni aya kuch but accha lga

@mke344

2 ай бұрын

goo goo gaa gaa

@skorpid-tm4531

2 ай бұрын

Wow didn't know lc0 uses monte carlo search

@maloxi1472

2 ай бұрын

@@skorpid-tm4531 It's based on the AlphaZero papers

"There's always a bigger stockfish" - Qui-Gon Jinn

@JohnJohnson-fn2we

2 ай бұрын

Not really Zero is too deep for stockfish sometimes. This game remind me of a game were stockfish won against Zero with 120 movies, while Zero took only 50 movies to win with the same positions.

@benr3799

2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the least turns competition for cubing lol, forgot how they did that at google but somehow they proved it only takes like 20-23 moves to solve most Rubik’s cubes or something lol. Fascinating how much of a future these games still have even with computers who can spank us to pieces. It’s still just as fun

@jonnenne

2 ай бұрын

​You are stockfish and this joke was by Zero @@JohnJohnson-fn2we

@Galaxy-hu7ht

2 ай бұрын

​@@benr3799they found a Scramble which could have been only solved in 20 moves and then found for every other possible Scramble a solution of shorther or equal moves

@1CO1519

2 ай бұрын

@chickenwheel45 I came here to comment exactly that! 😂

After tucano took the free piece, leela said " yepp that checkmate in 79 moves" 😂😂😂😂

@woody442

2 ай бұрын

Yep, probably engines will either always draw or always win with white in not far future.

@905LilO

2 ай бұрын

@@woody442 Always the chance that when/if chess is solved that black wins, who knows

@jadonloomis

2 ай бұрын

@@905LilO Quite possibly. Or could come to opening move alone. For example 1 E4 always wins whereas 1 E3 is a draw.

@hiimfromthefuture1728

2 ай бұрын

​@@905LilOchess will never be solved, because the moves possibility are too much for even an engine to analyze completely

@nicolasjunghanns1145

2 ай бұрын

​@@905LilOchess is unsolvable, there are more possible moves than molecules in the universe

"I like it when I crush another engines ego." -probably Leela

@grantdillon3420

2 ай бұрын

Bobby Chess Zero

@davidanderson_surrey_bc

2 ай бұрын

Me: What is best in life? Leela: To crush Stockfish, see it melt down, and to hear the lamentations of its programmers.

@primeobjective5469

2 ай бұрын

@davidanderson2357 [Laughter] "Yes! That is best in life."

@praiseshishi2189

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 nice one

@null.dev.

2 ай бұрын

No. Definitely Stockfish. He runs rings around leela most of the time.

Paralysis seems to be a common theme in engine games.

@thule505

2 ай бұрын

full blockade

@ninja8flash742

2 ай бұрын

only way to win cuz the other engine sees all the "obvious" stuff xd

@janmb

2 ай бұрын

For AI engines, yes definitely. They utilize the untaught fact that a useless piece is indeed worthless. While a human derived engine will panicky hold on to material regardless of its dynamic value

@dstreetz91

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I've seen Leela put opposing pieces in lockdown multiple times now and I imagine as the engines get more advanced that will be the constant theme. Activity is the most important thing in chess in my eyes for this reason as undeveloped pieces that can't interact with enemy pieces are worthless.

@qazzaqstan

2 ай бұрын

@@ninja8flash742 They are also the interesting decisive engine games compared to the ones where it is not remotely clear why one side should be favored until a 100 move long endgame.

Please show more of these gigachad engine games. It's like watching chess from 200 years into the future or from a different galaxy. Utterly fascinating.

@garrettmanuel2413

2 ай бұрын

"1858 and 3058, at the same time" if that makes sense.

@saintsaens21

2 ай бұрын

Looks more like Morphy chess to me.

@fundhund62

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't watch engine games even if someone paid me for it. Most boring stuff ever 🙄 Honestly, it's not even the same game as human chess.

@garrettmanuel2413

2 ай бұрын

So how did you even get here then??@@fundhund62

@MelHS-gr4lv

2 ай бұрын

that however he sounds rambling at times with this meandering discourse on the game it is intriguing however be careful :D

"Not just with a grain of salt, but a huge plate of salt." This is now my email signature.

@PyExcel

2 ай бұрын

Funniest shit I ever heard

@chandrasekharmukherjee2794

2 ай бұрын

But that much salt is not good for health😆

@gregorymorse8423

2 ай бұрын

That advice doesn't make sense. If something calculates better than you, you don't have any salt to throw, the only smart thing to do is accept it. But since a better engine might exist, you should take it with a grain of salt until you are sure you have the best engine. If it makes a rare mistake, not like a human would be smart enough to correct it

@MelHS-gr4lv

2 ай бұрын

rofl :D he knows what he is talking about however calls the AI a person someone playing chess hahha

Tucano: haha I won a piece Leela: haha you can't use any of your pieces

@MelHS-gr4lv

2 ай бұрын

WHAT IS WITH THIS website it bugged and did not back button correctly TO THE VIDEOS and replayed HELLO EVERYONE 3x rofl THAT IS FREAKING CRAZY :D rofl :D

@kolaas2006

Ай бұрын

He shouldve just sack a piece instead of trying to save everything. Im sure Leela calculated that too though..

IM (2400) -> GM (2500) -> Super GM (2700) -> Overlord Engine (3300) -> Supreme Overlord Engine(3600)

@camilohiche4475

2 ай бұрын

It feels like DBZ. Always a new boss overlord that raises the ante comes up making the previous one feel like child's play.

@patogordo1385

2 ай бұрын

There is no super GM

@freddymars2014

2 ай бұрын

You forgot Hans Niemann (9999)

@ForumArcade

2 ай бұрын

This sounds like something I would have written when I was 12 and cringe over today.

@sublimeade

2 ай бұрын

M??

The most insane part about watching these supreme engines is that everything they play is so aesthetically pleasing. In the past, engine moves look sloppy but they worked anyways. Everything Leela does looks beautiful.

@kenw2225

2 ай бұрын

If you like drunken Axl rose

My dream is to sacrifice a piece willy-nilly and a few moves later half of my opponent's pieces are completely useless. That would be incredibly satisfying.

@nicbentulan

2 ай бұрын

What's your opinion of Armageddon w/ auction, even in classical and especially in 9LX? --- Part0of3 - Intro in CSQPod: A - 2:22 in B2Gi-6EgcfY ( clip for csqpod & MVL ) and B - rc-GquDy3PU ( CSQPod & hikaru ) To break up ties in classical 1v1 matches or knockouts ( as opposed to breaking up ties in round robins or swiss ) - MVL & Fabi don't want super long armageddon's to break up ties - Yet Hikaru & Fabi don't want rapid/blitz to break ties. Compromise: If you're going to do 25+10i rapid tiebreaks, then why not 25+35i classical armageddon tiebreaks? --- Part1of3 - If the point of classical 9LX is that, as said by the top player in - classical-time classical-variant chess Magnus, Carlsen, 9LX isn't suited to rapid/blitz - classical 9LX Wesley So, players don't play so consistently in rapid/blitz 9LX Then classical 9LX should have classical tiebreaks. Generally I'm known to have a huge bias against Magnus Carlsen the chess player (for being a hypocritical cheater), but Magnus Carlsen the 9LX player isn't so evil: Magnus is setting up classical as in 120min+ WITHOUT consecutively repeating starting positions (as FIDE had hypocritically insisted on doing in 2019 & 2022 WFRCC). --- Part2of3 - An armageddon with 120min+ for white might be too long, but there IS precedence of a 60min+ armageddon won by Gata Kamsky in an old USCC in 2010 and even sorta in 2013, I think. You can also do like 25+35i or even 10+50i instead of 50+10i or 60+0i, all of w/c all equivalent under FIDE's conversion. Rapid games are sometimes 25+10i, so just increase the increment by 25 seconds. --- Part3of3 - And I believe Bobby Fischer would like armageddon too (at least in 9LX if not chess). Bobby was preaching about pre-arrangement, but I don't think increments & 9LX are enough to solve this. In xiangqi, their armageddon has auctions and was invented by a Ronghua Hu known as - surprise surprise - the Bobby Fischer of Chinese chess! - pKdQYb Armageddon w/ auction makes every game fair & decisive. I believe this'd mean - A - no more draws but in a good way not in a no stalemate way. And a fortiori no pre-arranged draws - B - no more rapid tiebreaks. You can play chess w/o Armageddon and then settle classical matches w/ classical tiebreaks - C - Can have best-of-1 knockouts - D - All single round robins & single swiss are fair. - E - There's no more issue of drawing a best-of-4 by compensating for a white loss with a white win & 2 black draws like in 2016 & 2023 classical wcc's where Sergey & Nepo had more black wins than Magnus & Liren. Plus, at least in rapid, bids for black in 9LX go like 12min/15min while in chess they're like 9min/15min since 9LX doesn't have as many draws or as much white advantage. I expect classical armageddon bids will also be lower in chess than in 9LX. I notice these 3 improvements of Bobby - 9LX - Increment - Armageddon (w/ auction) Are used more in rapid than classical but they should be used more in classical! They also eliminate the top 3 worst things about classical-time classical-variant chess: 1 - theory 2 - dirty flag 3 - draws

@edinbhop

2 ай бұрын

​@@nicbentulanwtf

@sublimeade

2 ай бұрын

Tal checks his watch. Time to sacrifice another piece!

@____-ei4gq

2 ай бұрын

Imagine the commentators of such a game: 'They play THAT move?!!! What are they thinking? That surely must be losing. So what does the Eval bar say?...... O.O'

@thebcwonder4850

2 ай бұрын

@@nicbentulan dawg this is an engine game

Leela is playing an endgame during the middlegame. Kh3 Kh4 with the idea of Kh5 to capture on h6. This is beyond comprehension!🤯

@davidanderson_surrey_bc

2 ай бұрын

Great observation!

@michaeledwards2251

2 ай бұрын

Some of the Alpha Zero games against Stockfish show it can achieve a zugzwang with Queens still on the board : something considered impossible for humans. (It is recommended the Queens are exchanged prior to going for a zugzwang in human play. )

@greense65

2 ай бұрын

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc Yeah, just pushing the king up into that pocket to do some work like any other piece, while the opponents queen and rooks are still on the board.

@ThePe5e

Ай бұрын

Even preparing the possible trade of bishops on h4 with Kh3 is incredible before Kh4 is even played. The confidence is incredible.

@markrobertson3054

15 күн бұрын

@@michaeledwards2251stockfish > leela

It's an astonishing game. Sacrificing a piece to gain a kind of unstoppable momentum is a pure, computerish idea.

@goonerboy93

2 ай бұрын

There will never be a human who could play like this

@pandalover900

2 ай бұрын

Sacking a knight to paralyze both bishops, a rook , and the queen is the kind of trade in the spirit of the old masters but executed in the future. simply beautiful

@kenw2225

2 ай бұрын

I doubt that. Someone will eventually be able to play 3300 . Knowing the other side best moves will eventually happen from a human. But it will take about 30 years for someone to spend their entire life to chess to achieve. Beating Leela, I agree. But a human cam memorize alot. There's no limitation on the memorization ability of a human so meeting that can happen. Won't ever surpass. It's the challenge the humans will rise to. Time and time again it's happened

@ronaldmayle1823

2 ай бұрын

@@kenw2225 Leela will look like a club player in 5 years.

@aaronpeters774

2 ай бұрын

@@kenw2225 10^180 possible chess positions, a massive amount more than atoms in the universe by a factor of 10^100 (ten followed by 100 zeroes). Totally impossible to memorize, absolutely ridiculous suggestion from you. Perhaps humans will eventually surpass 3000 elo, but it would never be through brute force.

Putting opponent's pieces in jail - signature Leela style 👽

@ulyssesvercosa6196

2 ай бұрын

HJahaha well observed my friend.

"This is only the beginning of black's suffering." I for one, am glad engines can suffer. I did not know this. But it brighten's my day.

I really love how this Leela plays. Suffocating your opponent, in stead of fighting him...

I love so much these videos of engines playing. I would love to see you showing more and more of them! Thanks, agad.

It feels like DBZ. Always a new boss overlord that raises the ante comes up making the previous one feel like child's play.

@chrishauser5505

2 ай бұрын

Or like Cell evolving as he defeats opponents!

@kenw2225

2 ай бұрын

Power level 9000!!!!!

we want more of Leela and IA neural networks games ... they are exciting and include many new ideas unexplored by humans

The white march in this game is one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen

That was one of the most mind blowing games of Chess I've seen in years.

Would be really interesting to see the evaluation curves from each engine throughout the game: at what point did Tucano realise it had lost? By how much did Leela think it was winning at the point if sacrificed the knight?

The two knight sacrifices in this game reminded me of Averbakh, Yuri vs. Spassky, Boris USSR Championship Leningrad 1956 Round: 3 ECO: E74 when Spassky played 16. ... Nc6!! to get a tiny bit of counterplay after botching the opening.

@jeremywilliams5107

2 ай бұрын

Those were the days...

Note that while Lc0 uses neural networks, it uses a deep neural network rather than NNUE that Stockfish and Tucano use

Leela's full name is beautiful!!

@camilohiche4475

2 ай бұрын

She's hot af

I missed these engine battles. I've beem waiting

More engine game please :) This is pure perfection and poetry :)

Best KZread chess Channel on the planet

@camilohiche4475

2 ай бұрын

By a fucking country mile

@cfirmdotpy

2 ай бұрын

No 24/7 Magnus Carlsen hype LOL

@falcon_224

23 күн бұрын

Gothamchess is for kids

Oh how I have missed these engine vs engine games

Leela sacrificed a piece in the opening for a big lead in development and to gain space. Ng5 traded black’s only active piece. At 6:23 black struggles to untangle and develop any queenside piece. The queenside pieces are also bad pieces because other pieces and pawns are blocking their activity. At 10:17 black gave the piece back since the queen being the only active piece is not enough. The bishop is tied down blockading the e6 pawn so Leela is still better.

That was incredibly beautiful and terrifying for humans to comprehend all at the same time. Absolutely mind-blowing.

The scariest part about engines is how they operate logically beyond even numbers calculation. It sacrifices a peace to render multiple pieces of the opponents useless and effective unplayable. Makes you think if AI ever went rogue it would render humanity helpless before you have seen it coming just like tucano engine was.

@alang.2054

2 ай бұрын

Not all engines are "ai", for example stockfish is just regular algorithm. Furthermore something like "ai" doesn't really exist. Those engines are just neural networks which are in essence fed by large amounts of data. They don't make any logical connections, nor play chess like humans, they just choose the move that makes the most sense based on data they had before. 2000 years ago people like you were scared of eclipse, because they didn't understand it, now people like you are scared of ai for the same reason.

I've been following Leela since she was young and only a few blocks tall (😂) and I still am amazed by her games and will never get tired of them.

Brings to mind Alpha Zero's Immortal Zugzwang game.

I've been in the Leela discord for a while now, and I'm pretty excited for BT4, as initial testing shows that BT4 and BT3 have beaten the development version of Stockfish. Hopefully, we will get back the TCEC crown once more!

@aliensconfirmed3498

2 ай бұрын

Where to get the discord link

@drmrboss

2 ай бұрын

Not ture. SF is still better than Leela in TCEC hardwares ratio. Only if she improved +20 +30 in 2 months , Leela will win.

@nabildanial00

2 ай бұрын

what is BT

@CallOn84

2 ай бұрын

@@nabildanial00 I believe it standards for batch transformer, but I could be wrong. It's a transformer-based neural network, and it's what GPT3 uses for it's large language model. So, you can take the idea of how GPT3 generates text based on the context of the content that a user writes and you can apply it to BT3 and BT4. Only, in this case, it generates a move.

@CallOn84

2 ай бұрын

@@drmrboss testing has shown that BT4 is 35 Elo points higher than the latest stockfish development version, so it looks promising.

Its good to see these engines play another every now and then to see what the grandmaster train against.)

This reminds me of when Leela first burst onto the scene and destroyed Stockfish. When you look into the games highlighted in the Gamechanger book, a constant theme was that Leela would be down material but would practically immobilize Stockfish. Having 3-4 pieces bunged up, and typically on the queenside, was an absolute hallmark. Sometimes I wonder why Tucan didn't sac the knight sooner (for example after e4, play Nc6. It forces the exchange and restores parity, plus gives you some room to breathe. Leela has sacked a whole piece for the position. It's obviously objectively wrong (Tucan is 1K points higher than me!!), but for an intermediate human that feels like the right approach to give back the material, what else is better?

this was so entertaining! more engine games please!

Thank you for your take on engines. I find it strange that so many people believe that "stockfish says" is not only objective fact but actual knowledge that they themselves posess. The description of innacuracies, mistakes and blunders are taken as some kind of gospel. Some so called inaccuracies put your openent in a position where they have to play five or more precise and difficult to find moves, that is most often far more likely to end in a win than the suggested move that can put you in that position. They are no doubt very usefull tools but the plate of salt is a great description.

@cptnoremac

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the engines evaluate the position as though they're playing against another engine that never makes a mistake. So if it's in a losing position and it can either A) Make a move that simplifies to an endgame that your uncle could win but postpones checkmate for 20 moves, or B) Make a move that will result in getting checkmated in 7 moves but only if the opponent makes 7 extremely precise moves and otherwise is actually a draw, it'll play A every time.

@thebcwonder4850

2 ай бұрын

But is hoping for your opponent to make a mistake good chess?

@cptnoremac

2 ай бұрын

@@thebcwonder4850 That's what chess is. From the start of the game, it's a draw until someone makes a mistake. Your goal is to complicate things enough that they make a mistake and you can win.

@spindoctor6385

2 ай бұрын

@@thebcwonder4850 Putting them in a position where they are likely to make a mistake is 50% of the game, the other half is not making any yourself. I would say that if you win, then you didn't make any "mistakes"

Great video. Thank you

I love when games speak to you.. This tells me that even with the best tools we've ever built, we have not even scratched the surface of what can be known, even outside of the world of chess. The "correct" decision will never make sense from our limited radius of human knowledge.

That piece sacrifice in the opening was something else.

It sees two wildly counter intuitive moves demolish the show ... then it rolls the plan out like a glacier..... then it just plays 'H1'. Beautiful. Not human, but beautiful.

The most efficient way of generating "brilliant games" is by using two engines with a 300-point rating difference. The weaker engine simply does not see the traps of the stronger engine, and yet, from a human POV, it is not committing any blunder

I started watching chess contents with Alphazero games from agadmator in 2018

I like when you do extremely precise chess engine videos. Brings me back to the Alpha zero series which were my favorite.

At 1:49 finally learned how to correctly pronounce Agadmator! Antonio spoke his nickname!

I really enjoy the logic of programs.

Reminds of AlpaZero with the blocking of the undeveloped pieces

I love your videos for 5 years now Agad!

I notice that the best engine games often focus on position and gaining SPACE in a way that humans do not.

that castle by white after Bxc3 is beyond my wildest dreams

absolutely incredible

100 games is a lot and thy definitely did not play that many. Leela won 3-1 and advanced to the next round of the cup. This was part the 1st round of cup13. Only 2 game pairs (2 openings, engines get to play both sids of each opening once) was played by default unless a decisive lead is reached before that (at least 2.5-0.5). If tied after 2 pairs, extra pairs will be played until a decisive pair is found. As time control is 30m + 3s, there's not really resources to be playing 100 game matches in a elimination tournament with 32 participating engines. 100 game matches are reserved to the most important events like the superfinal as it would take 4 days with this moderate time control.

How to say? Leela plays chess kind of like a Go master . It didn't matter that Leela went down a piece early in the action because 3 of black's pieces remained undeveloped and out of the game for way too long and even black's queen was boxed in and isolated for a while. Such superior control of space on the board is so Go like.

@za5528

2 ай бұрын

Leela is based on AlphaZero which used the technique first used by AlphaGo in playing Go

You've made a very good point about the engines not knowing the best moves either.(at least in the early midgame) It's so jarring to hear commentators treating the engine moves as if chess were solved & those were the best possible moves in existence.

Hey @Agadmator. you mentioned such a good point on 5:50 . A really nice point about the new AI Models, is that they are trying to Let the computer build the knowledge about chess themselves. they instead of letting the machine crunch the depth the choose another method. A new research paper has found a really beautiful idea, demonstrating for the first time that it is possible to train a neural network to play chess at a grandmaster level without relying on explicit search techniques. This finding challenges the long-held belief that sophisticated search algorithms are indispensable for mastering complex games like chess. so imagine somedays with Quantum computers there will be a new Era of chess. maybe transforming the game completly.

So, engines, how do *you* improve your game? Leela: Creative thinking. Stockfish: More RAM!

Even this guy had no real idea of what he was going through

13:51 And it was in this position that Tucano did not resign, rather it allowed Leela to completely demolish it with a checkmate...

Always amazing to see Chess at this level.

i dont know if i would call it an IMMORTAL, as there wasn't a full-out material sacrifice that rendered white with a few pieces used to checkmate the black king - but it was one of the most amazing games i've seen in years. Thank you!

Wow! Insane! Thanks!

Fischer said you have to give squares to get squares. Leela said, you can give a piece to get a lasting dominance. That was one of the key ideas the neural net engines have shown since Alpha Zero. When people can do this from more than a couple openings, that will be impressive.

“Pawn to b4… as it often is the strongest move…”. 😆👏👏

Agad shittalking my uncle again 😂

I cant even imagine how many moves ahead LEELA saw before sacrificing that piece. Probably the whole game tbh lol

You did a good job with variations. Thank you!

@nicbentulan

2 ай бұрын

What do you think of nDWpjxXYLZ4 ?

Wow. I was laughing the whole video. Those moves are insane. And to think that they were played against an engine that would obliterate any human is mind blowing. Thanks for sharing.

I imagine since we humans are programmed to see patterns, if thousands of these games become available to GMs they would start seeing the chess differently as well, this game is pure activity evaluation, and basically proves the dominance of activity and freedom of moves!

@spindoctor6385

2 ай бұрын

There are already thousands of these games available. Since computers have become better than humans there is almost no difference in the ELO of the best players. The difference seems to be that there is a lot more players gathered just below the very top. There is a limit to the human brain, no mattee what kind of training it is given.

@lukaskinder6983

2 ай бұрын

What really impresses me about engines is that they are not just better than humans in seen patterns of a position. They are also better because they search through millions of positions per second. So basically, an engine does a move because it belives that it will lead to a position 15 moves ahead in which it saw patterns that it liked.

@Yusuf_K7

2 ай бұрын

That has already happened with the AlphaZero match against Stockfish a few years back. What the top players noticed was AlphaZero’s propensity for pushing the h pawn. This was then introduced into the play of many top players.

@kimgysen10

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think so. Humans will likely hold on to material in the majority of times because the number of combinations is too much to process for the human brain to avoid mistakes. Intuition could help but you’d still end up with an inconsistent human player. Imo.

the crazy thing tucano held for 79 moves.

I love that throughout the years you've kept making Evans jokes when someone (or something!) plays b4 lol

Awesome to watch.

I've actually for some time hoped to find a good video about how the cutting edge chess engines actually work and how they differ. The absolute best thing would be to hear about that from you!

Wow Leela is some powerful engine!! Stifled the other engine and it couldn’t breathe🙆🏽‍♂️

Thank you,Agat.... Please, continue these series of engines.Any

i love leela's games, it just sacrifices pieces to suffocate the opponent by putting pieces into a form of jail... Very interesting playstyle.

I love these Leela games ☺

Please always keep that picture of Cortana for Leela. It provides such a great atmosphere of mystery and intrigue!

That was absolutely savage. Poor tucano paralysed the whole match. It was hard to believe it's against 3300 engine.

Just Imagine Hans niemann playing against Leela.. "Chess will Never speak for Hans for a million years to come"....😂😂

At 3:47 My uncle 👁️👄👁️

That's signature Zero-engine play. Sacking a pice to lock the rest away.

Worked with Leela, and was like "Leela NEVER allows the NiD to be played against her. As soon as she realizes that it's a possibility, she switches from Nc3 to Nf3, so it's totally absent in her training games." Then I remembered that these are pre-set moves. Which makes it cooler, because from move 4 on, Leela is playing position types that she's not used to.

Always great when we see 3600+ chess from Agad! Cheers everyone! :)

That is a super dedicated father-in-law!

interesting at 9:34 if black takes on a4 instead of pinning the bishop there is going to be a slaughter starting with h4 i guess

The crammed black position reminded me of Game 6 of the first BigBlue-Kasparov match in 1996. Kasparov didn't sacrifice a piece at the time , but slowly and methodologically improved his position and worsened BigBlue's, and finally won the game - probably the last game of any importance that a human has won against a strong engine.

Yeah, I've thought about that too. The years that I looked at the engine to see what the absolute best move was predate Alpha Zero by over a decade. I was willing to swear by the word of what would be considered a weak engine. Although at the time, the limits of calculuation were obvious in certain positions: I had trouble in Spanish middle-games, and using an engine to better understand them DID NOT WORK: they would just advocate either making non-moves, or they would suggest a move that I now recognize would objectively weaken my position, like the wrong pawn in front of the king going up one square. But still I thought that if Rybka says it, it must be true.

Love this image for Leela. What a game.

I love a few engine games a week. Would like to see more!

Mathhew sadler has a great KZread channel called silicon roas focussed on engine chess

16:25 We all knew it wasnt because of beauty, but because of winning b4 move LOL

That is why moves recommended by engines are not objectively best, only an oracle can answer the question what is the best move in a given position.

@hey8174

2 ай бұрын

Maybe in 10,000 years, the engines will just move horses back and forth, and stall the game in a bloodthirsty race to a draw.

@paulomartins1008

2 ай бұрын

@@hey8174 if they do that it will be because they know every possible combination of the game, and they know the game to be a draw, so they draw it as fast as they can.

Wonderful game! Please show more games from Alpha Zero or Leila or other engines. Those are awesome 👌 ❤ Thanks

2nd: What's it like in a parallel universe where 9LX is standard chess, and Garry really is Garry chess? 1 - People are praising Wesley So, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Bobby Fischer & Anatoly Karpov. Agadmator & Levy are talking about Wesley & Nepo all day long. 2 - Garry really is Garry chess here. Switch Bobby & Garry dates of birth. (Bobby's last name here is probably Nemenyi.) Meanwhile Garry Kasparov invented something strange called 'chess1' aka 'Kasparov Deterministic' where you have only 1 SP. Garry quits the 1975 classical WCC Vs Anatoly Karpov, is arrested in Russia (instead of Japan), immigrates to Iceland and dies in 2008. 1975 is not a big loss. In fact, it's better because Bobby Fischer takes over. 1978 is Bobby vs Anatoly match of the century in Baguio, the Philippines! Idk what happens in 1981, but then 1984 Eugene Torre wins the candidates and faces Anatoly/Bobby! In 1976, I guess Eugene still beats Anatoly. Either Anatoly or Bobby. (Trivia: In our world, Eugene almost beat Bobby in 1992.) 3 - Bobby is still alive in 2024. Bobby, Anatoly, Sergey Karjakin, Wesley, Nepo are on Lex Fridman's podcast while Magnus, Garry & Hikaru aren't. 4 - In the 2019 inaugural world Kasparov Deterministic chess championship (WKDCC), Magnus beats Wesley in 3 classical chess1 games in a row in but no one cares. Fabi is still the top 4 in the 2019 world chess1 championship but the top3 is now Liren. Nepo has never played a chess1 game, just as in our world Liren has never played a recorded 9LX game before 2024Feb. 5 - Wesley/Nepo doesn't quit the 2023 classical WCC. Nepo/Wesley wins 2022 candidates and no one cares about Liren. Wesley So Vs Ian Nepomniachtchi is the biggest rivalry in chess, far exceeding as well as succeeding the next biggest rivalry Bobby Fischer vs Anatoly Karpov, like Better Call Saul to Breaking Bad. Wesley, & Nepo are both considered GOATs along with Bobby & Anatoly. There's no distinction between GOAT & MTOAT. There's a slight bias towards Wesley because Wesley is Bobby's nephew. 6 - Chess' popularity in the Philippines & Norway are inverted. 6a In our world, Bobby had radio interviews in the Philippines. In this world, Garry has radio interviews in Norway. 6b Then Prospero Pichay Jr is imprisoned and the Philippine chess federation is free from corruption. But Wesley is still American. Huhuhu. Oh, in this reality, Magnus' parents are evil and then Magnus gets adopted by religious parents who are friends of Garry, so it's like Magnus is Garry's nephew. The 2019 WKDCC is still like a pseudo - Bobby vs Garry, and it's billed as battle of thei nephews. 7 - But still no one actually really cares about chess1 because no one wants to have a headache over studying the same boring SP again and again. Also its top players Magnus & Garry are still cheaters. But well ok maybe in rapid & blitz chess1 is picking up. (Same as our world. Fiiiine Magnus is right about keeping regular chess for rapid & blitz.) So there's still a 2022 rapid world chess1 championship, half a century after the 1972 REGULAR match of the century. This time Hans Niemann wins beating Hikaru Nakamura on tiebreaks. This time Hikaru accuses Hans, but Hans still sues both Hikaru & Magnus. Ches***m is not sued and is just as good as lichess. Hans is still considered the next Bobby Fischer / Anatoly Karpov while Wesley & Nepo are still considered the current Bobby / Anatoly. 8 - In 2024Feb, FIDE still cancel their 2024 WKDCC, but Wesley & Nepo host a rapid chess1 championship but don't invite Magnus & Liren. Hans isn't a cheater but has still has beef with St Louis Chess Club and so doesn't play that due to scheduling conflicts, but Magnus & Hans are still going to eventually defend the, resp, classical & rapid world chess1 championships. 9 - In general, chess doesn't have that many cheaters, cheating incidents, baseless accusations, etc and has very little corruption, discrimination, treason, politics, etc. FIDE is hailed as 1 of the cleanest sports/gaming organisations. Chess is an olympic sport. Bobby/Anatoly are FIDE officials. 10 - Tiebreaks are settled by armageddon w/ auction rather than lower time controls, so Sergey & Fabi still lose to Wesley/Nepo in resp 2016 & 2018. But no one calls for change of tiebreaks to rapid time controls. Lol. Also, pre-arranged draws are so rare. 11 - Sergey isn't banned because Sergey only privately supports Putin because chess doesn't make people go insane unless they the players want to stick to 1 SP only, like Garry. 12 - Actually here, Bobby has very neutral feminist enlightened political views and is a true patriotic Jew & American ( in politics in addition to still being such a patriot in chess ) while respectfully criticising both US & Israel along side condemning Osama bin Laden / Al-Qaeda & Ismail Haniyeh / Hamas. So Bobby is still against Iraq invasion. 13 - Most importantly, no one cares about Garry, Magnus, Hikaru or Liren. Specifically, in this world, they care less about them as compared to Wesley, Nepo, Bobby & Anatoly in our world. 14 - Paradise. --- Ok back to reality: --- PLEASE agad it's been 4 months! 2023 USCC - Atousa almost beat Carissa Yip, the eventual winner! Carissa was losing most of the game. Atousa just blundered in the end. It's Hikaru's (rapid WFRCC) WIFE vs Wesley's (classical WFRCC) GIRLFRIEND. #suggestion #womeninchess #uschesschamps #uschess #uschesschamp #uscc

knight sacrifice at the beginning to trap black pieces is unthinkable

#suggestion Holly vs Queeg Red Dwarf Season 2 Episode 5

@IngieKerr

2 ай бұрын

Heheh. My inner monologue voice when ever I play chess tends to be either Agad' saying something like "...and ingie plays knight to f3, fully developing his pieces", or Holly saying "Horsie, to King Bish' 3"

Yes but at move 57, Leela played Qc7+ and then 6 more moves, but she had Qd8 which needed just 5 more moves till checkmate. It's possible that she doesn't care of checkmating faster after all, as long as a checkmate has been seen.

Leela is like "Tucano, you can have all the pieces you want as long as you let me imprison them in a 3x3 box."