I have had to get rid of 3-4 pairs of side cutters (including a LM wave) becuase of cutting stranded core wire and getting a tiny bit of strand getting in between the heads near the pivot and making them virtually impossibel to use. Being able to loosen them to get the debris out would be a major improvement.

I totally agree, all multitools should come with spring loaded pliers!

I think, if it's patented, it will help them...HOWEVER this joint...as you said, only brings them up to as good as Victorinox. They need to release 2 updated versions of both the surge and wave with better toolsets.

Looking forward to your Arc evaluation.

There's a KZread video where the guy takes a bolt and hammer and smacks the center round part of the pivot and it instantly frees it up. It moves an imperceptible amount but legitimately seems to work. He says his stiffens up after cutting hardwire too and this is his solution.

I've had some recent leatherman tools and the pivot is annoyingly stiff on both of them. That adjustable pivot would be amazing.

I hope they'll include that feature in the Arc , i don't understand how come the pivot been an issue for so long when Victorinox seem to get it just right out of the box ... And hopefully the Arc won't sell out in a matter of seconds either ...

I agree, I've had several MTs that had developed some serious slop in the pliers making the wire cutter pretty much useless.

I’m excited to see how the coating on 5 feels. I hope they ship quickly

What's your thoughts on the discontinuation of the Leatherman Squirt, Micra and Style PS ? Do you think Leatherman will make a new mini multitool to replace all the discontinued models ?

I'm hoping that the arc will have the adjustable pivot it seems it would save leatherman some money on broken pliers that come in for warranty for example if you broke the tip off one of the Jaws just that side would have to be replaced but manly that it allows the user to tighten the pliers to what works for them

if the plier gets stiffer after cutting steel wire, maybe the cutter is damaged, you can remove the cutter and smooth the damaged point by using sand paper, or maybe just order new cutter. I'm mot sure if adjustable pivot joint is a good idea because I don't see any professional pliers on the market have this figure

I think we now know what the point of the Darkside was - essentially a proof of concept for a serviceable pivot for the pliers. I don't think Leatherman would have put the springs on the pliers of Garage #5 and the Arc. The springs will break, and it would be economic insanity to have to trash an otherwise serviceable tool just to "fix" the broken spring. With the pivot they tested on the Darkside, LM's service people can just open the joint, replace the spring and send the tool back to the customer.

The 40th anniversary Garage tool was priced 349 € over here 😂 I don't even wanna look at how much the resellers must be asking !

I'm pretty sure this user-servicable pivot only exists for the hand-made Garage products. I think it's just so they can actually assemble it easily.

Glad to have you back! Did you grab a leatherman 40th anniversary?

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

Leatherman’s website kept crashing on me, wouldn’t allow me to check out.

@appleztooranges

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib same! I was declined my payment 5 times. Apple Pay. I had it checked out at 11:59 am too

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

It’s unfortunate, those are the breaks I guess.

Now I have to get a Texas state flag self healing mat and I haven’t been able to find one.

Maybe it's just me, but putting a screw in the middle of a stress point ???

Amen, Ben. I own several, several Leatherman Multi-tools. They are my favorites by far. However, their joints suck. I would be in the market for any Leatherman with the new joint structure. Also - very disappointed that I didn't get a chance at the 40 yr anniversary release from the garage. Would sure like to own one.

I agree on the adjustable pivot, did you order Garage #5 today Ben?

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

I tried. Website kept crashing.

@deceptionsdemise

11 ай бұрын

Same here.

@ToddGajewski

11 ай бұрын

Website crashed repeatedly for me, finally made it through the checkout 15 minutes after it opened.

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

I wish I had been that fortunate.

Did you try to snag 1 of the Leatherman garage 005?

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

“Tried” is the key word. I had to get one of the scalped ones, which really made me angry. Website kept crashing and wouldn’t let me check out.

@jon27d

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib I got lucky and managed to get through. I probably had to try to reload a page half a dozen times or more before I finally got through all the steps. Definitely excited about it because it's one of the best tool set / form factor combinations in a Leatherman I've ever seen for my purposes. Looking forward to your thoughts about it!

@andrewjk8962

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib How much did you end up paying? If you don't mind me asking.

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

Double

@andrewjk8962

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib Prices are crazy, getting higher too. You might've actually snagged one at the low end from what i've seen.

Ben did you get a 40th?

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

Through a scalper on eBay. Website kept crashing on me.

@dieselgoinham

11 ай бұрын

​@@txtoolcribshit how much?

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

Double the price

Exchangable bits should be on every single leatherman. There's no excuse anymore. It's superior and allows you to use the ratchet which in and of itself is a game changer Also, they need to seriously stop making those hex bits that only connect on two edges. The amount of nuts i stripped is insane.

@devatwell334

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say it's superior... Depending on user yes. Now u lose bits and springs get weak and the bit exchangers themselves aren't as strong as a solid tool...

Geez they're already freaking sold out of it.... man I don't feel like I'm ever going to get a garage release.

Hey Ben: Jon Gadget KZread channel has a video today about Leatherman Garage #5. He said he got his late yesterday - but he had to promise not to talk about it until today - which means he had to order his yesterday or earlier. That goes against what I heard that it had to be ordered today July 5th. The way things are going at Leatherman you probably don't want them to have your payment card data anyways. I personally don't want to buy anything until it's been proven in the hands of many people who have bought and used the product. I guess I wouldn't be a good business owner because I don't want to take a chance on employees and buying something that would take months or a year before I got the product. I read some of the comments for your video and the guy who commented on the coating of the pliers (Leatherman darkside) had a good point. Glad to see you are okay for today at least.

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

Jon’s is a Leatherman dealer gift, distinguished by the different color scheme. Jon Gadget always does great videos.

did you get the new Leatherman Garage #5 with the Magnacut blade ? $275

The thing about the lm garage is most people can't buy it because people buy them up to sell on ebay. Kinda useless and it irritates me that no new tools are actually accessible to the public. Leatherman angers me lately. Gerber may suck in quality but at least they make new things!

Only 25 seconds into the video, but two points: 1) I agree with you. 2) The only reason this exists is because of the coating being applied to the plier head. #2 is based on a statement of a Learherman employee in a factory tour on the Essential Craftsman channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoqnj6mIfczIZ9Y.html Garage starts at the 8;50 mark and DLC coating at 9;50

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

I would agree that was the case for the Darkside. However, the latest Leatherman Garage release does not have coated pliers. So maybe that is a sign they intend to add this feature into some of their other multi tools.

@PetesGuide

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib Are you sure? I think the Arc prequel has DLC coated pliers.

@txtoolcrib

11 ай бұрын

According to the pictures it appears to be stainless steel with no coating.

@PetesGuide

11 ай бұрын

@@txtoolcrib you may be right. However, I was sure I read something that indicated they were coated, but I can’t find it. The pivot appears to be coated, which leads me to another hunch: The spring-loaded pliers may require an adjustable _and_ coated pivot. Batch 5 is sold out so I can’t get one to test. :-(

use the tools and they will loosen up..

SOG pliers are best. Unless you need it for giant nuts.

they are all garbage, don't waste your money on a gimmicky toy

I feel like a company would just slap a T15 or T20 on to the pivot screw and call it good, no one can have a patent on it, and it's a better head than the flathead if leatherman can even get a patent on it. Using a screw for a pivot isn't a new or innovative idea, so I don't know if they could even get a patent on it, but spyderco has a patent on a literal hole, so anythings possible.

First of all , I’m glad to see you back Ben . Second of all I’m glad I couldn’t snatch 1 of these up . I got 1 in my cart and it sad sold out at check out . To be honest I’m extremely glad . I think Leatherman has completely lost there minds asking $275 / $300 after Taxes . They didn’t even incorporate a chisel into this tool set 😡🙄. I could buy a Surge and A Victorinox Swiss tool for what there asking . NO THANK YOU. ✝️🇺🇸🙏🛠️⚒️🔧🪛🪚🔨