You can get spring relocators that fix the spring at the top and with the bottom located by a cone which is fixed to the lower spring mounts. I had this setup in the past and it worked well, the added advantage was it was quieter than the top mounted cones. I currently have the full Gwyn Lewis Challange suspension and the rear top mount cones work exceptionally well and has a hook to catch the last coil in extreme conditions.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this! We are in the thinking of what's the best solution for us. :)

I run a 1993 Range Rover Classic. I have always had a full set of tools on board.

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

Best way to go 👍

It's great to see the Landys having fun.

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

We enjoyed it a lot 🙂

Bravo pour ta vidéo Emeline ! C'était vraiment une super journée ! A refaire !

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Exact 💯 😃

Enjoying your videos. Love the stickers on the doors. So much fun.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Wauw, that looked like fun. Really enjoyed watching this. Need to do the same once my interior is finished!

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's an awesome experience and can only recommend 👌

with landy's, faster is rarely better. 'As slow a possible, as fast as necessary'. Its always fun getting out and about in our rigs. Just try not to break anything lol. Great video, cheers for sharing.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

It's fun to test the drivers' skills and the car capabilities, especially before really going 4x4 overlanding

Wow always fun seeing a Land Rover flexing along off road tracks and trails . Great video again . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message Steve! :)

Excellent. Très belles images et dommage qu’on n’ai pas ça en Suisse 🤷🏻‍♂️

@offtrackfamily

9 ай бұрын

Effectivement c est dommage

I was to many times on milatary playgroud. Now Im driving only nesesery tracks. As slow as posible as fast as nesesery. 😉 Cheers. 🍺&🍷

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

😄

Great video, looks you guys had a lot of fun over there….. greetings from the Netherlands

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

😃 yes we have! Are there some similar terrain in the Netherlands?

@guidok3762

2 жыл бұрын

@@offtrackfamily yes we have a park for Offroad vehicles here in the south of the Netherlands. But there are a lot of Offroad trails for 4wd vehicles you could follow with more cars at the same time. For the real mountains we need to go to the alps…… end of July we will go to Valais for holiday……

Bonjour Émeline, Très belles vidéos, il est vrai que c'est l'endroit idéal pour tester un véhicule. Les Defenders sont d'une efficacité remarquable nous en avons la preuve en voyant ces images. C'est avec plaisir que nous vous recevront de nouveau sur le terrain.😉 A bientôt

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Merci Dany, on s est bien amusé et on a pu voir l évolution de notre expérience, le jour et la nuit par rapport à notre premier passage il y a plusieurs années! On se rejouit de revenir plus tard cette année lorsqu on aura avancé notre nouvel aménagement. :)

Awesome footage! I was pulling for the Land Cruiser though hehe 😜

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks! :)

@R.Sole88109

2 жыл бұрын

Traitor, be gone😜

@jamesb8467

2 жыл бұрын

@@R.Sole88109 haha! I’m a Land Cruiser owner but I still appreciate the original Defenders

@vic6820

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesb8467 I'm a Land Rover owner but still appreciate the original Land Cruisers 😉

@R.Sole88109

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesb8467 Glad you appreciated the humour. If I couldn't have a old Landy, a old Cruiser would be my next choice. Or a new build of the old design.(70 series probably a 76)😁

That looks like an awesome off road park. Sadly we don't really have anything like that here in Ireland. There was one just opened before the covid lockdown insanity, not sure if it has been able to reopen.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

It's a cool place to test the car and driver's skills! A shame you can't access one like this anymore, it's the same in Switzerland, nothing similar and have to go abroad.

Awesome video and looks fun. Definitely do not recover off a tow ball, 3:38. If that shears, ouch😨

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Nice video! Seems there are some really tough tracks! Maybe welding the upper spring mount a bit longer can also fix the problem without loosing flex. While changing the rear leaf springs on my 76series I lowered the car without the spring mounted on one side and yes, I won't imagine what happen when it accidently happens while driving. Keep save and solve the issue quick, to add more good videos in the future! What are your experiences comparing the Toyo M/T vs. the KM3?

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's a really cool place to enjoy offroading, testing the car and the driver. Yes we are working on the spring solution and will get it done asap. This situation shouldn't occur while driving on road as it was really in full flex that it happened, and even with the max flex it didn't completely go out of its placement, so should be all good. Very happy with the KM3, they went well offroad and are less noisy than the Toyo on road. We know that Toyo M/T do handle very well rocky tracks, so we'll have to see if KM3's are good on those types of tracks.

My defender installed too 😅

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

👍 nice

Hi guys love your videos just wondering what sort of exhaust setup you have as well as tune ect?

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Custom made exhaust and remap from TD5Inside

@Downhill-gy6mw

2 ай бұрын

Hi just saw that that exhaust is legal in swiss ? Is it a straightpipe with the silencer ( idk the correct word sry..) ore just straight ? You do not have 100% diff Locks right? What kind of diff are they?

OTF. A Defender coil spring dis-locating on the rear axle needs careful attention ! Look at the coil poly spacers on Fleabay, as Downunder offer their 20/30/50mm options to retain the OME coil spring just inside the outrigger for your situation ? And then limiting straps to prevent those BP-51's from over extending in-situ. V

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

Will check out the spacers you mentioned. We will soon fix this and choose the best solution for our use while not damaging these amazing shocks.

好羨慕你們可以咁玩越野車👍👍👍在香港沒有這種地方可玩。多數是高速公路和平路😎🤩👍

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we're lucky to have an offroad fun park not too far from our place. This neither doesn't exist in Switzerland. Do you have a 4x4 in HK?

@XKENXKOOX

2 жыл бұрын

@@offtrackfamily 抱歉在香港我沒有4x4😅所以很欣賞你們成日可以駕駛四驅車周圍去玩👍👍👍

Ouf. Fameux pilotes. Je pense vraiment que je devrais passer par un tel endroit avant de me lancer dans l'aventure. Faux dire aussi que votre véhicule est équipé au top. Michel

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Merci! Oui c est une très bonne idée de se tester avant d être confronter à des situations délicates en tout terrain. Le Def blanc n a pas de modif comme le notre et est passé presque partout ;)

1HD-FTE power ❤

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

What is the meaning of 1hd-fte?

@Hexamin

2 жыл бұрын

@@offtrackfamily He means the engine of the Toyota.

Bonjour, est-ce que cet endroit est aux alentours de Genève? Ça a l'air super!

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

Oui vers Lyon. Il y a le lien dans la description

Does your defender have diff lockers?

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

We have 3x limited slip diff ATB rear front & center + stock center diff lock

@ianchewyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@offtrackfamily That's awesome. I will also look into this option for my Defender too. Much simpler than a locker system

Wow ! They look like they took a beating…..but held up very well. Here in the states a Land Rover has a bad reputation for reliability. Not yours !

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! We had a great time and will go again when the new setup is completed! They also have a bad reputation around here but in my opinion if you learn how to take care of it, know properly your 4wd, and know if some mods are needed for your use, it helps to keep it as reliable as possible :)

It never looks as steep on camera.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

As you say, always looks way more easy on camera ;)

If the car gets a pop-up roof with a bed and maybe a roof rack, the car fully loaded with four people, water tank and diesel tank full, i.e. fully equipped with a weight of more than 3 tons, you will no longer be able to drive this terrain without knocking over the car. Take care.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

For sure it'll be different with the full setup but not much more different than our previous setup. Should be even better as most weight will be on the lower part of the car. We didn't tip the car before so should go well with the new setup, might not be able to do everything we did that time but would have to test ;)

Just saw you use a trailer ball hitch to recover. Please never do that. It is terribly dangerous and can (has) led to death.

@offtrackfamily

Жыл бұрын

We're no recovery experts so we learn along the way 🙂

@Okierover

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4OKlaabl7uuc7Q.html trailer ball recovery death.

Good video but crap suspension set up. Imagine overlanding a far away land when you hit an obstacle and get air then both your rear coils fall out in mid air and you land with NO springs! By by family. That is a real safety issue. I hope you fix it right away. It may be fine for local green laning, but it is insane for travel. Land Rovers are likely the most rolled over vehicles on earth. This is one reason why.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

Reading your message I feel you haven't watched all the video or didn't listen or read why this happened to the rear spring. It's a great suspension set and there's a reason why this happened. As said in the video we needed to test offroad to be sure it wouldn't or would happen. It did happen, I exposed why, also exposed our 2 solutions, and it'll be fixed before traveling. The purpose of doing this type of fun outing is to test the vehicle and stay prepared for overlanding by knowing properly the vehicle's capabilities with its current setup.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

2 жыл бұрын

@@offtrackfamily no I watched the video and you said you would be changing it but you don't explain why or how dangerous it is, or how you ended up making the mistake and how others need to NOT make the mistake. The other issue is this off-road park is not in your back yard, you drove there and drove home like this. If you needed to make a moose avoidance maneuver when you swing left the left spring could fall out, then when you swing/turn right there is no spring to support the vehicle so it would instantly flop or roll over. As a leader in the LR community you should have shown everyone that this is a "very serious situation" that could cause injury or death, and you should have fixed it before going home. Not to mention that spec'ing the car for flex, which is a poser/instagram move and not relevant to actual off road capability could have injured or killed members of your family or others walking or travelling in the other direction. Actually doing a second video about this now still may be a huge service to the community and could save lives.

@offtrackfamily

2 жыл бұрын

I understand your concern about this and the reason why we shared it & explained why it happened regarding our personal setup is to share our experience and help viewers understand better some situations. The spring didn't completely go out of its placement even though it was the maximum flex physically possible of our Defender. Relocation cones will be installed like on our previous setup in which springs were made to go out of their placement when offroading and where guided by a cone to come back correctly. I don't underestimate the accident possibility but certainly not the catastrophic scenario of an on road avoidance manouver you mention with our springs falling out. Almost reaching 200k km of driving with our Defender, you must certainly understand we experienced many different road situations and if our suspension setup was dangerous, we wouldn't have kept it this way. This is also why we had & have adjustable shocks, adjustable for road or off-road use. When on-road they are adjusted to harder to limit roll pitch, as you mentioned this previously. The ARB OME BP-51 shocks are adjustable for compression and rebound, which means we can have the best suspension settings for our vehicle. Yes we will share another video when we will add relocation cones with an explanation as we share our experiences and feel it can help others :)