The energy difference between you Jason has given me whiplash.

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Haha we balance each other out!

I had the same problem with 120 film and the labbox! After loosing 5 film, I decided it was better to devlop 120 film in the tank! I really like that someone exposed the same problem as mine! Great video with super advice! 😎

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Omg!!! I though I was going mad! It’s always frustrating loosing rolls like that... I’ve started doing the same thing. Thanks a ton :)

Given the price of Cinestill film, I can appreciate his distress. The 120 reel for the Lab-Box is so easy to mis-assemble that even the best of us have made mistakes. Almost all of the 120 reel problems follow from assembling the two reel halves 180 degrees out of phase or alignment (between themselves). Closely examine the assembled reel to make sure that the lead-in grove for each side of the reel are directly opposite each other. The less common error is assembling the reel so that the lead-in is facing away from the film rather than toward it. Lab_Box completely redesigned the reels at the last minute to deal with whatever undisclosed problem(s), and the redesign is close to a complete failure in terms of keying the parts so they cannot be mis-assembled.

Good stuff like always Caleb 🤙🏼🤙🏼

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

AlexilloVC 😭😭😭🤩🤩🤩🥳🥳🤪

I'm about to develop with the LabBox for the first time, and just wanted to thank you for the tips! (Y)

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!! That’s awesome! I’m glad they helped out! :) good luck and have fun. Let me know if you have any more questions! ☺️

@PaulaAbr

4 жыл бұрын

@@BadFlashes back again to say HUGE THANKS, the trick to retrieve the film out of the canister was golden! haha

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!! Glad to help out!!! :)

Questions! I have the lab box too. Does it happen to you that when you are cranking the knob to put the film into the spirals sometimes film touches itself when developing?(either 35 or 120) (i know this cause some pics f*cked up due to this) If not, how you nail that? How fast you turn the knob? Do you push down the guide that puts the film into the spiral all the way down or do you just lay it?

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

It happens to the best of us for sure... it happened to me. The biggest thing to make sure you do is check that the left spindle is on the left side aligned to the arrow and that the right is also aligned to the arrows. I’ve messed that up a few times. I do put the guild down and I also go slow just so I can hear it thread correctly. Hope this helps a bit.

@randallstewart175

4 жыл бұрын

I have no magic insight, but suggest: Make sure the reel is tightly assembled so the distance between the two spirals is not excessive. Do not push down on the film guide which steers the film into the reel. That would tend to make the film skip out of the grove. Turn the knob slowly when loading the film on the reel. Too fast may put too much pressure on the film and make it skip the grove. Finally, load some old film into a used cartridge and practice loading film with the tank top off so you can watch the process.

I had the very same issue with 2 x Fomapan rolls that did get properly into the chamber and I will try a Rollei 400s soon :-O

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

:/ that sucks. Sorry 😞

They are not useless. But if you can't use one, here's tip for you. When you rewind the film in the camera, as soon as you hear it snap out of the take up reel in the camera, stop rewinding. Open the camera back and the leader should still be on the outside of the metal cassette. Ta Da!!!!

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Almost like I made a video about that haha 😂 but you’re are totally right!!! ... damn that’s the next one, I haven’t released yet... ummm sneak peak 🤓

Just had the same issue, the two 120 films (HP5) I have developed where not properly positioned on the reel. So most of the film did not received chemicals as the film was wound on itself... Kind of frustrating indeed ! I have checked the alignement of the arrows and everything, I don't understand where the problem is. I will not process more 120 film with this ! If you have a better answer from ars imago or more details to share about this issue that would be very helpful !

@BadFlashes

2 жыл бұрын

If I hear anything will do ;)

Hey I'm back from watching the first part, you can carry on now. Oh, you are. Done. Was good thanks. Careful with paper towels, they can shed little bits of paper towel and paper towel dust. I know what you mean about parking spots. My car pretty much only gets used for reserving it's own parking spot. I'm not driving anywhere, I'll lose the spot. I suppose I could get qet a second car to park in the spot when I'm using my first car... but where would I keep the second car when the first car was in the parking spot? Where?

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

WHERE!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

The Lab-box takes 490ml of solution is you are using periodic agitation (nit continuous), If you use 450 ml as proposed here, you run the risk that the film at the outer edge of the reel may not be covered by solution when not being agitated. I admit that I have not carefully tested this volume requirement, but it seems penny-wide, pound foolish to be cutting corners over 40 ml of solution at the risk of ruining the images on the tail-end of your film roll. And, don't use the G......M squeegee; it picks up grit and starts scratching the film. Use Photoflo to avoid waterspots and speed drying.

PET is the stuff plastic soda bottles are made of right?

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

I thought PET was something that went to the vet and sucked all the money dry 🤣

They also suggest not using those same films in 35mm either as the film cutter has a hard time cutting the polyester base films.

@BadFlashes

Жыл бұрын

Yeah…..

Kodak Photoflo for spots! Virginia Beach’s water is highly chlorinated and our pipes are old but no spots or streaks 😬 I was turned on to it by another youtuber who uses it to avoid accidental scratching from a dusty or dirty squeegee

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Most definitely! I buy a bunch of distilled water haha can’t have no spots

I’ve heard a lot of bad things about the lab box. Decided to go with a Patterson tank

@BadFlashes

Жыл бұрын

Smart decision

@jasonlovi8745

Жыл бұрын

@@BadFlashes yup, easy to use and the negatives came out fine.

Fried chicken does sound good right about now (its 11 pm lol)

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Fried Chicken always sounds good 🤣

Lol! That film retriever is the worst 😂

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god! It really really is haha

@kcat126

3 жыл бұрын

I am super lucky I didn’t break mine. I also had better luck with the 35mm than the 120. I think it was a design flaw on their part.

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it definitely gets from frustrating from time to time. I’ve lost a few rolls to that thing ... but I dig the Paterson tank :)

@kcat126

3 жыл бұрын

Bad Flashes I literally just started developing at home. I figured that the Lab Box would be good for getting to know the chemistry and timing. Once I feel confident enough, I’ll work with the Paterson.

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

I understand that, that’s how I started too and it was definitely really helpful for that! I totally agree with you! I hope you have fun with developing! It can be frustrating but it’s awesome when you get it down to a science :)

PET is basically Polyester. Most film is usually an acetate base or polyester.

@BadFlashes

2 жыл бұрын

Boom! Answers. Love it :)

@hattree

2 жыл бұрын

@@BadFlashes and PET is Polyethylene which is the polymer, and terephthalate is a plasticizer. The ph is silent, so it's pronounced basically like terra thalate. If you ever see "Estar base", that's PET.

@randallstewart1224

8 ай бұрын

To sum up the issue, the video comment that acetate is PET or polyester is error. Most film base is acetate. Some film base is polyester (or ESTER or PET). Acetate is far more commonly used because it was the historical material used and is a bit cheaper. I think Kodak started using polyester (and trademarked the ESTER name for it) on certain specialty film used where consistent film physical dimensions were absolutely required. The only one I know of was Kodak Royal Pan, its high speed film in the 1960s, often used in astronomy. Acetate can slightly expand or shrink in processing; polyester does not. PET is a problem in LabBox 35mm because the knife used to cut the film at the end of the cartridge during loading is not sharp enough to cut through PET. I had not heard that there was a PET problem with the 120 loading. Perhaps the base is also too stiff and will not curl into the holding chamber as the backing is separated from the film roll. Frankly, his problem here is less likely that PET will not roll up in the chamber generally (Or we would have heard of the issue before), but rather than there is a small plastic molding flaw or misalignment of the rotating holding chamber, causing the 120 film end to hang up at the beginning of the loading process. Take it apart and look for burs in the plastic. God knows that there are plenty of similar fitting problems in the other LabBox parts.

@hattree

8 ай бұрын

@@randallstewart1224 That trademark I believe is ESTAR base, Kodak's trademark of PET.

Based on some of your Videos define early if you don't mind

I love the idea of the lab box, but not being able to develop multiple rolls at a time breaks the deal for me. I use a 1 liter stainless steel tank that allows me to process 4 rolls of 35. I've got smaller ones that process 2 at a time as well. The stainless steel reels are much easier to load than the Patterson reels IMHO, you can load them while wet without any issues.

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Yep... I feels that for sure. Never used stainless steel but I’m starting to prefer the Paterson for that reason!

@MyNikolaas

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadFlashes I started off with plastic reels - 35mm was fine, then I got into medium format... Rolls jamming halfway onto the reel didn't appeal to me at all. If the reel was just a little wet from developing the previous batch, forget it. I really can't recommend the old steel reels enough - You need to practice and get the hang of them but since there is no mechanism, nothing ever jams.

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Well I might have to look into them! Thanks for all the info!

@MyNikolaas

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadFlashes No problem man! Anything to help keep analog photography alive!

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

🤘🏽

PET = Estar.

I need 10 secs with the retriever

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Humm maybe I needed to burn some candles and sacrifice a Camera in it’s name for it work for me. Idk 🤣

I'd much rather spend the extra 2 min loading a tank with 100% certainty it won't get ruined.

@BadFlashes

3 жыл бұрын

Right there with you

omg...needs more cuts

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Challenge excepted!

Hi

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Gavin ``` HEY!

Afraid I only made it to 2.07, sorry.

Damn, can you just get to the point already? Watching a grown man in a closet trying to be funny making up shit is not my thing! Grow-Up already..

@BadFlashes

4 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s funny, that’s what my teachers constantly told me. Thanks for the constructive criticism. :)