Lab Box Update - 2 Years On

Video discussing my use of the ars imago Lab Box, a daylight film development tank two years and 33 films on, I talk about my failures (2) and successes including some of my favourite images developed thus far, what i've changed since the first roll/video, future plans e.g. colour development, etc.
Does it still meet my needs? 00:00 - 00:52
Why not developing colour yet? 00:52 - 04:29
Usage/experience overview thus far 04:29 - 07:24
Favourite Images developed montage 07:24 - 09:30
Ilford Leader Retrieval Tool Demo 09:30 - 11:17
Chemical discussion 11:17 - 12:20
Adapted Ilford Wash Method 12:20 - 15:30
Wash up, fave images from latest film 15:30 - 16:42
Other Lab Box videos I've uploaded:
First Lab Box Video (120 film) - • Developing 120 Film us...
Lab Box 35mm Film Development - • Developing 35mm Film u...
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  • @hjmmjh4566
    @hjmmjh45664 ай бұрын

    Excellent update - thanks for posting!

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    4 ай бұрын

    No probs, I could do another update but nothing really has changed.

  • @randallstewart175
    @randallstewart175 Жыл бұрын

    So nice to see an update on the LabBox from someone who has used it for than just to make a YT video. Note on LabBox manual: The original manual shipped with the Kickstarter distribution was both terribly written but also did not cover assembly for the reels shipped, but for the reel originally planned and later abandoned.. He has the manual currently available from the LB website, which is amazingly good, particularly when compared to the original. The LB would probably work well for color processing if you can figure out a way to maintain temperature during processing. I'm inclined (but not tested yet) to seat the tank in a shallow hot water bath, no more than a half inch deep. Any deeper may expose the LB to water getting into the film module, which would cause more problems than using the thing would be worth. Since only the developer time/temp is really critical, try setting up a trial warming bath, fill the tank with process temp (100 F) water, and see how far the temp falls over the development time, usually around 3:15 minutes. Add half that temp drift to the official process temp, so that the development temp over time averages out to the official temp. (Sounds a bit flaky, but it works perfectly.) On washing B&W film, the Ilford Method is highly compatible with the LB, but it is well short of archival washing. So, use a wash aid between post fixing rinse and the Ilford Method Wash. This will greatly increase the quality of the final wash.

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Randall. I have a printed manual that came with the box which has the reel assembly instructions. Personally, I've never had an issue with them. I'm still yet to try colour but have adapted to a method between ilfords wash method and the Lab Box's method to shorten washing times and use less water. I use photo flo at end of process.

  • @randallstewart1224

    @randallstewart1224

    3 ай бұрын

    A clarification or correction to my comment on the Ilford Method of film washing: It employs a sequence of fills and dumps to wash the film. If a non-hardening fixer is used (all of Ilford's fixers are non-hardening), their washing Method works very well. However, the Method to completely inadequate to was film processing in hardening fixer. Kodak's fixers are either hardening or have the option to be made such. Check the chemical character of your choice of fixer before using the Ilford Method to was your film. (The LB is a poor vessel for film washing with a continuous water flow because the configuration of the film reel in the LB does not allow for adequate water circulation over the emulsion, if the reel is not physically rotating. Early in its Kickstarter program, LB offered a simple washing attachment accessory. That disappeared without comment about halfway through the program when they couldn't figure out how to make water flow though a static film reel inside the Box.)

  • @DANVIIL
    @DANVIIL Жыл бұрын

    I love medium format B&W and you captured some great images.

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your kind words.

  • @philiphunter3966
    @philiphunter39662 жыл бұрын

    Some nice images. Looking forward to seeing your colour images. Don’t get too hung up on the temperature control I had a crack at C41 a few years ago using a bucket of hot water and a very sketchy digital thermometer and got decent images

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Philip, I might get around to colour at some point this year.

  • @ceritat625
    @ceritat6252 жыл бұрын

    Lovely images from that expired roll, well done! I really should develop my own film, I just need the courage to do this. I have two Rondinax tanks, brand new so I have no excuse and I also have a Jobo 2400 tank that is fully daylight as well, no bag or darkroom needed. I did try developing a roll once when I had the Lab Box but had an awful experience with the film getting chewed up, I returned the box and never tried again.

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cerita, thanks for the comments, sorry to hear about your bad lab box experience.

  • @andrewinaustintx
    @andrewinaustintx Жыл бұрын

    About 10 months late to the party, but this is an excellent presentation on Imago's evolved interpretation of the original Agfa Rondinax tanks. I especially enjoyed the presented images both the good and a few to show user error.

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Great comments, thanks 👍. It's a timeless video really for KZread so is as relevant now probably as when I filmed it.

  • @davidmoseley5744
    @davidmoseley57442 жыл бұрын

    Hi Chris another good video I have tried the Labbox for developing 35mm colour film it went OK but I have tried it with 120 Kodak film I had some trouble not all the time were the film did not load properly onto the spool it got kinked on the edge of the film on both sides,but the 120 Ilford film was better I used Ilford super xp2 which uses c41 chemicals,I mix the main chemicals with ironised water and save the mixture after use by removing the air from the bottles and they seem to keep for some time temperature not a big problem,looking forward to see how you get on

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks David, I will get into Colour at some point.

  • @nevbivolol
    @nevbivolol2 жыл бұрын

    Chris, you can try "caffenol" and share us the results.

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    I might just do that before I take a run at colour...

  • @nevbivolol

    @nevbivolol

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisEdgecombePhoto Thanks, waiting!!

  • @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    @ChrisEdgecombePhoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't wait too long, I want to try colour film development first as I've run down all my B&W stock so even though I will try it at some point it probably won't be until next year.