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@NicholasIrvin

Жыл бұрын

can we see Kreia talks to Eren Yeager AOT

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

@@NicholasIrvin I myself haven't watched AOT

@NicholasIrvin

Жыл бұрын

@@reubzdubz well if you have the time take a look at it

@the11382

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's injustice superman.

@joezar33

Жыл бұрын

Honestly sounds like Superman being lecture by his Kryptonain Mother 😅

Many people in the Injustice comics tried to start this conversation with Superman with much the same arguments but as soon as anyone would mention Lois, Superman would instantly be overcome with murderous rage and the conversation would be over. He'd either fly away or kill anyone trying to argue him.

@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677

11 ай бұрын

Just don't bring up Lois and you might win the argument.

@kesasika

11 ай бұрын

@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 You'd think so but then Superman has the habit of escaping the argument by flying away. It is the only way to even try though.

@weaponisedfarts1382

11 ай бұрын

Homelander syndrome.

@Lothar-Wolfsbane

11 ай бұрын

Kreia can easily avoid any threat with telepathy at range. Which Kreia did from great distances. She sent a message telepathically to atris who was on Telos . “Betrayal” the moment before handmaiden accepts to become a Jedi . And when exile was in the Sith academy she telepathically spoke with the exile from the Ebon hawk. also when the poison hits in the Cantina.

@smexehcougah3

4 ай бұрын

@@Lothar-Wolfsbane Unfortunately for Kreia in this instance, Superman is also a telepath. He could track her and be at her location in moments with his super-speed.

Sadly, Injustice Superman would never let Kreia have this conversation. He'd get offended by her words and either kill her immediately or fly away.

@Axius27

Жыл бұрын

He could certainly try to kill her. I'm not certain that he can succeed. Kreia's core skill has always been manipulation, and injustice superman has plenty of traumas and mental weaknesses to keep her in control of any fight they might have. It's certainly not an easy fight, and any misstep would be her doom, but I don't see Superman winning the battle without getting the Atton treatment first. Poor superman...

@FerunaLutelou

Жыл бұрын

​@@Axius27The Force is basically magic, and Superman is vulnerable to magic. Without prior knowledge or a decent buff, his chances of winning in the first encounter are actually not too great.

@MrWill9002

11 ай бұрын

@@FerunaLutelouNo it’s not

@thenerdlord8894

11 ай бұрын

@@FerunaLutelouSuperman could kill her before she blinks lol

@Alphaj0r

11 ай бұрын

​@@thenerdlord8894She cant, not even injustice barry is FTL, kryea is indeed FTL and you can scale her to multi or perhaps even outer if you take the statement saying that "she can destroy the force" literal

As always, Kreia wins the argument

@St33lStrife

Жыл бұрын

Not always. But often.

@comradedog4075

Жыл бұрын

Joshua gram

@doodtheman2508

Жыл бұрын

Only cuz she never met Jolee Bindo

@erieperry8241

Жыл бұрын

@@doodtheman2508 mow that's a conversation I'd love to see

@MisterPeckingOrder

Жыл бұрын

I think Kreia’s just spitting facts. She’s here to make the truth as transparent as possible. Winning and losing don’t matter. Only speaking what is correct. So unless you can match her in that effort she’ll always have the upper hand.

I want to see Kreia talks to the Punisher…. Or maybe even Thanos

@samushunter242

Жыл бұрын

Definitely punisher. He could use the talk

@brotherblaze8799

11 ай бұрын

She would agree with Thanos..

@LedZedd

11 ай бұрын

That sounds awesome but I guarantee that it wouldn't be written well especially in this day and age.

@igodreamer7096

11 ай бұрын

She would have a hard time with the Punisher. There is nothing enough of sweet words or small talk to deviate him from his objective. Grey Jedi are a fraud.

@filipbabic4913

11 ай бұрын

Or Joshua Grahm talking with Punisher

Batman sitting in the corner nodding in agreement.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

he should be hiding. she'll probably come for him next.

@thebasscrss

Жыл бұрын

@@reubzdubz Don't see why debating philosophy is one of the few things Batman actually likes.

2:50 This is my favorite part, this is literally what OG Superman stands for, his humanity. And Injustice Superman loses that important part of his character. Glad Kriea pointed that out.

Oh man Superman got his moral compass cracked down by an old witch.

Would love to see another Kreia vid, perhaps her debating the nature of Evil with the likes of other SW characters, or characters like Saren from Mass Effect?

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

I am planning to do her versus Sidious next

Good to see Kreia schooling the worst version of Superman

@aidenparker5955

8 ай бұрын

This Superman is the Justice League Unlimited.

@grayski3324

8 ай бұрын

@@aidenparker5955 No? The title states that this is Injustice Superman.

@grayski3324

8 ай бұрын

@@aidenparker5955 The Justice Lords version of Superman would be closer to Injustice Superman

@aidenparker5955

8 ай бұрын

@@grayski3324 they're still the same guy. The Justice Lords were just never explored much.

@aidenparker5955

8 ай бұрын

@@grayski3324 I forgot to mention another similar the good in them is fragile like twigs. Kill Flash or that one important person and it's only a matter of time before somehow by their own fault or complex reasons become who they REALLY are. It's toxic that way.

I'd like to see Kreia debate with Gandalf on the matter of good and evil and/or compassion and pity

@scribblerstudios9895

Жыл бұрын

I would love to see that, I can totally see them sitting down for a few cups of tea for such a conversation

@andresmarrero8666

11 ай бұрын

That would likely result in her philosophy being disassembled by Gandalf. Not only has he been around longer than she has but he sees more than her and unlike her didn't lose his way.

“Have you considered Mr El, that YOU are in fact *CRINGE* “ -Kreia, probably

Damn i did not know i needed that, it was awesome hearing this crossover. Kinda wanna see more of this type of content with Kreia

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

Admiral Ackbar will be proud of you

I love how Kreia is talking to Superman as if he's a neophyte padawan and not someone who should know better.

Have Kreia destroy Batman , call him out on his BS

@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561

Жыл бұрын

Base Batman has no BS. He is the true hero of humanity. Injustice Batman? It was his stubbornness and refusing to see Superman's prospective and to reach a compermise which he got over in I2.

@eren34558

Жыл бұрын

@@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561 you clearly haven't seen Base Damian...he's WORSE than injustice damian.

@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561

Жыл бұрын

@@eren34558 Base Damian is just a jackass and an annoying brat. Injustice Damian is a guy with anger management issues.

the irony of a sith saying the phrase "true order arises from understanding and balance not from a single indivudal imposing thier will upon others."

@thecyberchill8907

Жыл бұрын

To be clear, Kreia is not your typical sith, but still that goes against the very nature of sith as a concept, their entire philosiphy if not the darkside itself is about imposing your singular will upon the cosmic force itself, and using it as a weapon, rather then letting it guide your actions as the jedi or lightsiders do." This is why the force is not a Yin and Yang for the darkside itself is the impostion of a will other then the forces own upon it. at least this has been what I have come to learn.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but she is an embodiment of hypocrisy brought to the extreme in some sense. Though it is true that that phrase is rather out of character for her.

@andresmarrero8666

11 ай бұрын

I find that rather strange as well. Here she spoke like a Jedi while Injustice Superman was speaking like a Sith complete with denial, self justification, and hypocrisy.

@bloodoftheunicorns2621

11 ай бұрын

@@thecyberchill8907 The force is yin & yang, it has to be for the Star Wars universe to function.

@vksasdgaming9472

10 ай бұрын

​@@bloodoftheunicorns2621Dark and Light are halves of whole and equally worthy of reverence. Jedi and Sith are perversions.

Superman: "Thieves, Murderers, Rapists they don't deserve to live, they deserve death like the Joker!" Kreia: *"E C H O E S"*

@iqd2072

11 ай бұрын

Kreia: *_"G I A N T S H A D O W S"_*

2:28 "In another world, you have a son, Superman. One Jonathan Kent. He holds all the ideals you once did. What would he think of all the pain, suffering, and tyrannical behavior you've inflicted upon this world? Slaughtering the Green Lantern Corps, Coercing Myxlplyx into being your judge, working with Bane, allowing yourself to be dominated by Wonder Woman..would he be impressed by all the destruction both you and Batman have wrought upon the world?" *Edit: Thanks for the likes, you guys. It means a bunch.*

@oldenough5424

11 ай бұрын

if wanting to be dominated by wonder woman is a sin then im the most sinful man on earth 😫

@curiousguyontheinternet9023

11 ай бұрын

@@oldenough5424Any version except the Injustice version. There’s just too much malice and craziness there for her to be tolerable there

Facts and logic always prevail!! Lol nice one Dubz.

This should be shown to all the power hungry politicians and egomaniacs out there

I would love to hear her one sided argument on Homelander or Omni Man.

OMG I didn't know I need Kreia... in every situation. I miss Kreia.

Ok I didn't know Kreia talking smack to superman was something I needed

Dammit my one weakness, KNOWLEDGE!!!!

I'm sorry but hearing Superman say "Better to be alive and angry than dead and crying" made me spit my tea 🤣

You know everything Kreia is saying to Superman could also apply to her with the whole kill millions to silence the force thing.

@DBArtsCreators

7 ай бұрын

If her plan had been to kill millions to silence the Force. Fortunately, that wasn't her plan. Well, maybe a plan B, but it was meant as bait for the Exile. The Exile being made strong enough & wise enough to teach others to turn away from the Force, as she did, without going through the hell she went through? That was Kreia's plan.

Superman can't ever sacrifice his humanity willingly He was always supposed to be the godlike being unwilling to actually be a god. Exalted by his power. Humbled by his restraint.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

Yep, but this is another superman we're talking about here lol

@MortSalazar

Жыл бұрын

@reubzdubz What I'm saying is Injustice Superman is an unnatural anomaly and should be wiped from the face of the galaxy Even soviet Superman is better by miles

@samushunter242

Жыл бұрын

​@@MortSalazaragreed

Keira and Batman will be enjoying each other’s company and talking about the grey of the world.

@reubzdubz

28 күн бұрын

Batman deals in moral absolutes though. It's like what Damian asked him. 'You are not okay with killing but you okay with traumatic brain injuries?'

Reminds me of Daredevil and punisher talking on the roof

She would make a great therapist

I wonder why Kreia sounds like Arren Kae at some points.

@reubzdubz

Жыл бұрын

I believe seeing the extremes of Superman brings another person out of her.

@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516

Жыл бұрын

@@reubzdubz Assuming Kreia is NOT Arren Kae, then that's an interesting theory.

Pretty good. Character ideology battles should be a thing outside of their own IP.

Good for him to have a debate where he can't just murder the arguer, or run off like a coward.

Amazing work and a big part of me believes that after hearing such reason and levelheaded behavior Superman would either throw a rage induced bitch fit or try to kill Kreia right then and there. Mainly because it all sounds what Batman would say.

Imagine Kreia talks to Homelander(The Boys TV version) and destroy him with harsh facts and reality check.

@jojomahmoud5752

11 ай бұрын

He would start crying and bitching the second she opens her mouth

@randallrona9618

11 ай бұрын

@@jojomahmoud5752 LOL! 😆😂

I just love how the argument between Kreia and Joshua was a slow, wise, intelligent mental sparring session between two well-traveled, experienced characters, whereas this one is the verbal equivalent of a spanking where Supes just tries to justify himself without ever being able to question Kreia's own flawed thinking.

Honestly all Kreia has to do is throw the fact that he burned a child's face off because he *questioned* murdering a bunch of people while he was having a tantrum.

I want Kreia to talk with the Ur-Didact or the Primordial from Halo

@legodoc1853

11 ай бұрын

It'd be fun to see her talk with one who's overly protective of their people and literal Halo God

The problem with Kreia is that she tries too hard to be a balanced judge. While a true jedi doesn't even attempt to be a judge, they just try to do as much good as possible, wich, in the grand picture, will counter balance the suffering in the galaxy. Kreia puts herself outside of the system, above it, and tries to find the best way to lead it to her desired direction, while a true jedi understands they are just a part of the universe, like everyone else.

@bloodoftheunicorns2621

11 ай бұрын

She isn’t a Jedi so it doesn’t matter what a Jedi would do.

@kylewilliams5454

11 ай бұрын

She is neither jedi nor sith

@bloodoftheunicorns2621

11 ай бұрын

@@kylewilliams5454 Correct

@zaccatacc

8 ай бұрын

The entire idea of being a Jedi is based on being a judge. It may not be as explicit and solipsistic as the sith, but still judgement.

@DBArtsCreators

7 ай бұрын

The Jedi trying to do good is what led to Palpatine taking over & the Jedi to be wiped out. The Jedi trying to do good is what led to the slaughter of the Mandalorian Wars & the Jedi Civil War. The Jedi trying to do good, in the grand picture, is the cause & enabler of much of the galaxy's suffering.

100% give it to the Jedi Master. Facts and logic win again. Mic drop.

Do one with Kreia and Batman regarding his "Thou shalt not kill" unbreakable rule please.

That’s the flaw with injustice Superman. The idea isn’t really anything than be strong but has no other qualities to form a ideology. I’ve been writing my own version to work out a more grey area to fix this flaw.

@Naturewalkingthrough

Жыл бұрын

My rewrite if anyone is interested would first be that the regime would be like the Roman Empire and Superman would become Caesar. Like the days of the Roman republic the old world was coming to a close and the destruction of metropolis would expose the flaws of the old “republic.” Superman and others would form the regime promising many reforms and fight the systematic issues in which the old governments could not. Not just killing but economic reform and introduction to technological development thanks to krytptonian technology. Batman would take the role of Cicero who is stubborn and believes the reforms to be too fast and shouldn’t be imposed.

Damn kreia be speaking too fast, and not vaugue enough, opening with that "former jedi master" line

I really love original good guy recipe Superman.

This is some crossover

I wonder how she'd interact with the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40k?

@joshrobins130

11 ай бұрын

"Humanity was scarred, battered and betrayed. In dark times such as these, it is only natural humans would lash out. The violent response of the Imperium was only to be expected from a species that was left for dead by its once allies and torn apart by rivals. But you who claim to be above such things, when presented the choice for guidance chose tyranny. When given the choice of creation, you chose to destroy! And for such a paragon of humanity, you truly failed in showing humanity to those that most needed it from you; your own sons. You favored some and pitted the others against each-other, nurturing their worst impulses and flaws to fit a role you forced upon them. It is no surprise that so many of them chose to betray you."

@Slowpoke3x

11 ай бұрын

She would bow at the might of his super natural Charisma. He can turn on something like Force persuade on super crack. He only turns it off when he wants to have an honest debate. But he could feel her Sith nature from the Galaxy away no reason to listen to the words of someone so corruptible.

@ChaseDaOrk3767

11 ай бұрын

@@Slowpoke3x Yeah, but I don't he's much of a Saint himself if I got to be honest

@vksasdgaming9472

10 ай бұрын

When last priest of Abrahamic fairh crushed his argument with logic and facts Kreia would make Emperor become fourth Chaos god prematurely.

@Nemesis_T-Type

9 ай бұрын

She would find him pathetic as his dependence on sacrifices is not much different than Nihilus' hunger, it seems powerful but what is he without it? Just corpse begging to die

Kreia, and the grey Jedi in general, are such an interesting character and concept. They look at the Jedi and Sith and offer a middle ground, knowing full well there neutrality isn't the ultimate answer ether. Life isn't black and white, good or evil, it's just...a thing. A grey mountain of struggles and confusion that all of us climb, and all of us find our own answer from. Rather that answer is good or bad...that's up for us to decide.

Such a great character)

What what I'd like to see is Kreia tearing apart Darth Vader for everything that he's done. Throwing away the Jedi Order, his own wife Padme, and her own family in the pursuit of Power.

Maybe you could make a video where Palpatine tempts Injustice Superman.

Did you do the writing by yourself? because you encapsulated Kreia so daaamn perfectly

@reubzdubz

25 күн бұрын

yeah I do the writing on my own

I'd like kreya vs peterson... as adversaries, remember, she wants to destroy the force.

I’d love to see her discuss treachery with Starscream.

This is fantastic. If I could also suggest, perhaps she could give a similar talk to Injustice Batman, who I think is equally deluded in his moral sanctimony. This is the guy who places his values so high, he negates the real world consequences of it by never even allowing himself or allies to kill when it’s needed, at the expense of people’s lives. Plus the whole “Clark, you’re a murderer, meanwhile here’s my friends, Harley (who helped destroy your city and murder your wife) and Deathstroke” Injustice can truly be a hard read when everyone is a hypocrite.

@Asmo_Lay

Жыл бұрын

Well, no. Deathstroke was a last resort 'cause any other man are either already dead or afraid to die. Slade was neither of both, since his whole life was basically "Kill or be killed". Also he was hired to do his job which was _not_ the killing and that one merc was good enough to accomplish his task. And now Harley - _she is exactly a demonstration of why Batman's core belief is right and Superman's - is wrong._ She's fully aware that she'll never be fully redeemed but she won't stop making a difference since she got a chance to do it. She almost fell back under the Joker's influence, yes, but Harleen snapped out of it and never took that bullshit again.

@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290

Жыл бұрын

@@Asmo_Lay She killed millions of people along with the Joker and has never demonstrated an ounce of remorse for it. There’s no getting away from it. Just makes it hard to stomach when Batman calls out Superman for doing even less. (not saying he didn’t eventually do worse, Superman was planning to sack both Metropolis and Gotham, which is worse than nuking a city)

@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290

Жыл бұрын

@@ultimatesora4467 Please explain as to what part I wrote constitutes trolling?

@lloydgush

Жыл бұрын

No, she's pragmatic, she would agree whole cloth.

@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290

Жыл бұрын

@@ultimatesora4467 I think you may want to revisit the definition of what a troll actually is, dude. Ok, when did she show remorse, and since when did that become enough to justify avoiding any punishment? If anything, in year 2, she tells Canary that she’s helping the insurgents to average Joker. I didn’t say Superman was in the right in most situations(I think he was absolutely right in killing Joker and Kalibak) Yeah, and Harley killed Millions - including Superman’s wife, unborn baby and all of his friends - who is Batman and his people to forgive Harley and never allow her to face any punishment? Batman basically judged him from the moment he avenged Lois, and instead of being there as a friend, spent all of his time plotting against him with the US government and other heroes when Superman needed him. And Batman agrees with this by the way in the Injustice 2 comics when Jonathan rightly calls him out for placing Clark on a pedestal instead of seeing him as a human. The best take in Injustice is that both sides are wrong.

Injustice Superman: *Says anything* Influence Lost: Kreia

Amazing

How about the normal one? He always comming for the aid of those who need him, but he leaves no room for humanity for self-improvement or learning. If everything can be handled by mighty entity then what good humanity even for?

Kreia would probably have to hold back an anneurism if she was around 40K's Emperor or his sons, especially Magnus or Konrad Curze.

I like this 🔥🔥🔥

Ra's al Ghul and Doctor Strange

Would love to see Kreia's interaction with The Didact about The Forerunners interpretation of The Mantle of Responsibility tbh

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

welp seems like there are many halo fans here, the only novel I read was the flood lol. I shall educate myself a bit.

This is Nietzsche tearing down Nietzsche , truly sublime.

Nietzsche said that when fighting monsters be careful not to become a monster yourself. Injustice superman is flawed because he claims to fight for justice yet he is just as monstrous as the criminals that he fights. He thinks in black and white when it’s shades of grey and nobody is ever completely evil or completely good. He acts as judge jury and executioner while oppressing the very people that he claims to protect.

Did you make these ai voices using the same method as the bastilla one in your video from 2 years ago? It sounds really good. Also, you should do an ai voice for marcus fenix, his voice is so awesome lol

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

nope. I'm using a different platform.

@deltasquad2558

11 ай бұрын

@@reubzdubzoh, thanks

Dude thats sweet

I wonder if it’s possible to create a light saber that uses a chunk of kryptonite as its Khyber crystal.

Frankly she'd destroy anyone with logic and her ai voice is weirdly perfect since she's already a tad robot at times

I wanna see one where she lectures Vegeta

Classic Kreia lectures the evil character from the perspective of moderation. While she lectures good characters for being bitches.

Can we have Crea talk to wonder woman next to challenge her and the Amazons beliefs please 🙏

Superman definitely flies off or tries to laser kreia

Kreia…the only character than can nuance you to death.

Can you do Rodney McKay from stargate Atlantis? Or maiev shadow song from Warcraft 3?

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

Unfamiliar with both. Sorry.

Ngl I wanna see Injustice Superman and Caesar (New Vegas) have a debate. Two tyrants who claim to want order and will stop at nothing to bring said order. Would Kal-El be appalled by what Caesar has done, would he think he's not doing enough? Will he see he's no better than him?

Where the h*ll did you get the audio for this?

Finish him! Kreia wins. Morality.

To me the Point of Kreia is meant to be a counterpart to Count Dooku as both saw the flaws in things both turn to the darkside both ended up becoming the villain in there own story showing you can write a good character but show people how there people like Kreia or superboy-prime who want to do the right thing but end up losing there morals or ideals

Rocky Raccoon and Damian Wayne

Kreia would not outright argue against injustice supes.

@reubzdubz

8 ай бұрын

but in this context she's a ghost lmaoo so ain't no way he can touch her

@zaccatacc

8 ай бұрын

@@reubzdubz I hear you and I appreciate that but let me clarify. Kreia in the vid is rehashing Batman and Insurgency talking points, which is very out of character. From my understanding, Kreia doesn't give a flying flip about being a dictator if the dictator does a good job, which according to the comics, Superman did do. A more realistic video is partially arguing his inability to move on from Lois and unborn child's death, then impart a revised version of the lessons she taught the exile on the space station.

Amazing. In each and every way.

Put her against joshua graham

@reubzdubz

9 ай бұрын

another channel has already done quite a few of those

And thats why kreia is goated and why legends is superior to canon. Disney wishes it could make female charactrss half as good as legends

@theelitebattleangel

11 ай бұрын

right...not everything both side is great it 50/50

@crim1188

11 ай бұрын

@@theelitebattleangel No. Virtually everything from the current canon is utter garbage, while Legends have some gems here and there

Kreia talks to homelander?

I just found your channel and you have a good idea. Are you open to criticism? Superman had several opportunities to shut Kreia down in that exchange. Makes it seem like supes is a neophyte in his philosophy. Not very realistic. If you consider to not frame Kreia in such a preachy, know it all manor, she would be countering Superman's rebukes and make it more interesting.

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

its a fanfic after all so, but sure. plus I feel like superman did make his reasons and stance evidently clear. but from the get-go he is on the defensive, though yeah I probably could have made him a bit more agressive in countering Kreia.

@robert8659

11 ай бұрын

@@reubzdubz That is a good goal. It is hard work to improve a craft like this.

Superman would win in a fight He would speed blitz He would defeat kreia in one punch and he has From any attack In an argument its who you agree with I agree more with kreia so for me her As I grow older my respect grows higher for superman and I mean superman not the fakers that look and say they are superman I mean the guy who would Rescue a cat just to help The guy who wouldn't kill why cuz there is a better way that can save everyone even his enemies

I SAY BRING GANDALF

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

You shall not pass

Based Arren Kae

Just gonna say Iroh would've saved injustice superman from his path

I'm a simple man. I see Kreia, I subscribe.

"The innocent" What is innocent? I do not consider those who support terrorism or cheer for the attacks on people who have not harmed them as innocent. I do not consider the civilians of an enemy nation to be innocent as they support that enemy, willingly or not, through their labor and taxes. Yet, I know that this clashes with what the majority of people in the west where I live would consider to be "innocence". Innocent to whom? Why?

@reubzdubz

8 ай бұрын

I suppose this is related to current events huh.

I absolutely never like Injustice Superman he has no thoughts of real Superman. The real thoughts of Superman can be done through the ideas of Superman from the Elite versus Superman.

@vksasdgaming9472

10 ай бұрын

He is deliberate perversion of Superman.

Injustice Superman’s argument is so flawed a child could win against him in a debate, so he was fucked when Kreia stepped up to it.

Kreia’s argument are boring and childish The issue is that humanity can’t be restricted or it isn’t really humanity

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

that is another good argument against superman's regime correct, but the key focus of this argument is superman sacrificing who he was, which in itself is hardly a childish argument my friend.

@dumbidea1007

11 ай бұрын

@@reubzdubz change is inherent to life and growth to argue that change is inherently bad is wrong while in this case it’s true look at plasticman once bad now redeemed His view of the world changed so did he. Those arguments aren’t really good as they are too emotional and subjective They aren’t even philosophical Superman’s argument are more logical and sound

@reubzdubz

11 ай бұрын

@@dumbidea1007 the argument wasn't change is bad. The argument was, you can seek your vision of truth and justice but at what cost? And you've become a tyrant even though you wanted to do good. It's a pretty simple idea, I still fail to see how its a dumb argument.

So basically injustice superman became the US government.

@khankorpofficial

Жыл бұрын

The US Government doesnt even believe in Justice tho lmao

Injustice Supes is lame to me. He is basically just another villain in this timeline.

@reubzdubz

6 ай бұрын

injustice was a good story for a fighting game. Of course it has now led to too many variants of evil superman like homelander and Omniman haha

@SkinnyEatWorld95

6 ай бұрын

@@reubzdubz No kidding man. I like The Boys and Invincible, but damn if they're not copies of Supes, I don't know what is😂

I hate injustice superman so much,