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@thiagoecb

10 ай бұрын

Fredda fell into petit-borgeouis ideology...smh (jk king, get your bag)

@JmKrokY

10 ай бұрын

Ok bro

@TheRezro

10 ай бұрын

So you argument is that Kraut's Political Science series is a Political Science? Also seriously. This video make you look like someone with agenda, who bandwagon on Kraut to push own vision of reality. I seriously despise this video.

@hamizanyunos1502

10 ай бұрын

His video on Realism IR Theory was pretty bad because he seems to misunderstand what the complexity of IR Theory and overwhelmingly focused on criticizing Offensive Realism of Mearsheimer ignoring the other various stands of Realist Thought.

@TheRezro

10 ай бұрын

@@hamizanyunos1502 Any theory what call itself "Realistic" and "Obejctivist" should be treated with suspicion. Realists tend to fall in trap of ignoring smaller players as pawns in game of great powers, what we now know is false. As people do fallow ideologies and have opinions, even if not dictated by pure logic. As such Realists tend to become glued off reality of everyone having own agenda. It is literally what screwed Russia now. Because lot of small players can become secretly a big players. Or for example how Irish can now pressure UK, because Biden is one of them. Objectivism is subjective theory assuming that someone is better simply because he has a lot of money. I think I do not need add anything here. This failed ideology is what caused downfall of USA. It is basically ideology of MAGA.

"as you can tell by my accent, i'm norwegian." he said in the most accentless english i've heard in a long time on youtube.

@FreddaYT

10 ай бұрын

I HAVE AN ACCENT It's just not Petter Solberg or Jens Stoltenberg levels

@SuperMutantSomething

4 ай бұрын

@@FreddaYT Hæ, du er norsk? Du må jo være den eneste norske kanalen på yt som ikke bare er søppel.

@LiberalSquared

4 ай бұрын

IDK man, I clocked his accent instantly. He does speak very good English, but I can definitely hear the Norweigian coming through a little.

@ianhomerpura8937

3 ай бұрын

​@@SuperMutantSomething Ingen is nice. Although he now lives in the Faroe

@anon-fq3ud

2 ай бұрын

I'm half Northern Irish half Polish, I prefer listening to Europeans speak English because they tend to have neutral accents and don't use regionalisms (idk if that's the right word) as much. When working in multinational groups that's a big plus.

Congratulations for finally finishing the herculean labor of criticizing Kraut

@monsieurdorgat6864

10 ай бұрын

Yeah lol it's a little bit like arguing with TIKhistory - the dude does just enough homework to be time consuming to debunk but not enough to present a good faith discourse.

@Hasshodo

10 ай бұрын

The interminable reality of finding a good, intelligent, educated political youtuber who you agree with, only to have someone else come in and tell you how that person is bad. Why is learning from people always an abusive relationship?

@Yuhyuhmuhmuh

10 ай бұрын

​@@Hasshodoyou can learn from people and disagree with them. Don't attach any of your identity (like your political ideology) to a stranger on the internet

@Hasshodo

10 ай бұрын

@@Yuhyuhmuhmuh The unfortunate reality is that not everyone has it within them to take on the labor of becoming an expert on geopolitics - and as such, are forced to rely on people who are more versed in that field to inform us about it. The reality is that NO ONE can really be trusted, if the criteria for trustworthiness is whether or not someone else does a takedown video on something a youtuber you learn from has put up. Either someone is trustworthy to learn from, or you get suckered into a grift and end up becoming an extremist. I really like Fredda, but it's disheartening to have someone like Kraut be held in the same regard as someone like WhatifAltHist. And as someone who really likes Kraut, what does that say about me?

@SometimesSomethingProductions

10 ай бұрын

@@Hasshodo I feel this deeply. I try very hard to listen to good sources on geopolitics, and as an educated layman I thought I had pretty good media literacy for catching bad sources - of course I could tell kraut is deeply political and not unbiased, I thought his basic history was fundamentally sound.

As someone with a background in political science, it shocks me in retrospect how little we were expected to cite sources for certain claims, in contrast to the history courses I took where citing sources was a given. There was only one time where I was ever asked for further substantiation for certain claims when receiving feedback on a writing assignment, and it was immediately clear that the instances that “required” further evidence were claims the instructor personally disagreed with. Of course political science is still a valuable field and has the potential to be taught well, but in my experience it leaves a lot to be desired and more often than not only serves to reinforce whatever political bias prevails where it’s being taught.

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

Because PoliScience is more logical than empirical.

@Mag_ladroth

10 ай бұрын

@@novinceinhosic3531Logical in the sense that it is mostly theoretical?

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

@@Mag_ladroth in the sense that you work more with axioms/generally known facts and try to figure out their relation and possibilities for the future.

@hashimarana

10 ай бұрын

@@novinceinhosic3531 wait doesn't that mean you require sources for your axioms and generally known facts?

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

@@hashimarana more like mere references.

There was a youtuber who passed away a while ago; Brain for Breakfast. They used to make countryball videos about political theory and history. And when a Kraut video ended up in my recommended videos years later, and I watched it; I was shocked that large sections were plagiarized verbatim from BrainforBreakfast's video on China "Two Taiwans, Two Chinas, Twice".

@itsmealex8959

7 ай бұрын

Aw man I miss that channel :( so sad he passed

@alessandro5770

7 ай бұрын

I think Kraut and the guy were friends, I have a vague memory of an old video from Kraut talking about him. May be wrong so anyone who may have some source please do share.

@rancidblock5615

5 ай бұрын

No way he passed, I didn't even know, I just thought he stopped uploading

@icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335

4 ай бұрын

I'm pretty wary of that video to be honest. It seems to make the same (intentional?) error of underscoring historical continuity of a national identity that Kraut always gets into. Brain4breakfast said the Chinese who overthrew the Dutch in Taiwan declared a new kingdom loyal to the Ming dynasty, while at that time the mainland Chinese people overthrew the Ming dynasty and marked the beginning of the Qing empire. This seems incredibly interesting and gives the impression that a distinct Taiwanese identity was already being formed since the 17th century, which fits neatly with the video's pro-Taiwan sentiment. For some weird reason though, the video doesn't mention that only twenty years after that kingdom on the island came to be formed, they were annexed by the Qing dynasty and thus became a part of China again.

@danielcuevas5899

4 ай бұрын

It’s not plagiarism it’s paying homage.

Kraut often gets blinded by his beliefs, noticably so. I am glad to see a good faith critique of him.

@DaUziel

10 ай бұрын

God I'm settling for good faith ANYTHING these days

@asscheeks3212

10 ай бұрын

Things never change with Kraut, ever since his controversy with other Skeptics. This video is just a reminder who he really is.

@gwho

10 ай бұрын

@@DaUziel cause the woke are such bad faith and poisoned all of society with their gnostic bs

@page8301

10 ай бұрын

@@asscheeks3212 I would not call the likes of JF Gariepy "sceptics"...

@InquisitorXarius

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t call it constructive or good faith criticism on Fredda’s part here given he omitted bits of Kraut’s videos that are relevant to necessary good faith critique.

I’ve enjoyed his videos but haven’t seen much criticism towards him, so I’m ready to have my mind changed

@AL-lh2ht

10 ай бұрын

He is great with more opinion focused stuff but say outright lies all the time when talking about history. He also has a extreme hatred of the US where he would rather be castrated then say one good thing about the US. And he hatred of the US extends to the rest of “the west”.

@Jamaimz

10 ай бұрын

Same

@Deepno-qh2cl

10 ай бұрын

Kraut has his biases but so does Fredda . Fredda is a Marxist and is ideologically opposed to kraut , who is a liberal So you have to take what this guy says with a grain of salt

@Real_MrDev

10 ай бұрын

Mind changed? Bro, Kraut remains Kraut, and although lacking, a video of criticism shouldn't transform you into an hater.

@Deepno-qh2cl

10 ай бұрын

@@Real_MrDev wdym?

"I'm still trying to figure out why he speaks like he owns a colony in the west indies" I pissed myself laughing and subscribed

@sournois90

4 күн бұрын

pee🤤

@SairanBurghausen

4 күн бұрын

@@sournois90I knew that blue spot on my phone screen had to be Sonic the moment I read this comment...

As an international relations student, I'd say that a core problem is that in IR and PoliSci there is often a bunch of courses and content on history, especially under a political lense, but absolutely no interest whatsoever in teaching actual historian methodology, which helps create this sort of stuff where actual graduates have a lot of especialized knowledge on history but very little knowledge on how to correctly approach it. Which I've always found weird since history student literally across the hall have actual method classes day one!

@MungoMcGhee

9 ай бұрын

That's because it's not about teaching history, but rather creating loyal ideologues.

@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650

7 ай бұрын

They’re just called idiots man

@refoliation

7 ай бұрын

That’s because it is an imperialist functionary recruitment pool more than a field of study I think

@Ajv516

7 ай бұрын

I paired my BA of PoliSci with minor in World History because I knew historical context on the international level would be critical. Historical Methodology was a requirement and I’m grateful for it.

@judepeppers1206

7 ай бұрын

so how are international relations recently? are they good? bad?

"Denmark doesn't have a history of political struggle", lmao. That's how we got the DANISH (wienerbrød) pastry. The bakers went on strike and so owners went and hired a bunch of foreign Austrian labor. It's so funny when people just memory hole the role of labor and strikes in the 1800s onward. Almost as funny as when they memory hole the relevance of socialist parties in Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War, just... flattening history into some kind of perpetual liberal stage since 1789 or something.

@Seth9809

10 ай бұрын

Your story sounds like a made up fable.

@moqif2060

10 ай бұрын

This reminds me of how Argentinian pastries got their names. A union of anarchist bakers named their pastries to mock the government and spread anarchist propaganda. That's how Argentina got pastries named little cannons, factories, friar's balls, and vigilantes, which are made to look like a police baton.

@scythermantis

9 ай бұрын

Why? And why should we listen to you, random avatar?

@user-un8tv1pp8m

9 ай бұрын

Labour history is being erased whenever possible by established power structures. Which include education systems. I recently had a debate with a college-educated american who sincerely claimed that all labour improvements in his country where actively executed by sensible employers, who wanted their workers more productive. Using that claim to counter my point that he has sickdays and minmium wages only because unions and wider socialism pressured those in power and ownership. When I pointed towards several examples to the opposite, not in the least the new deal, he started calling me a pedo. Sooo, yeah, that figured someow.

@Seth9809

9 ай бұрын

@@user-un8tv1pp8m Out of any class of solid students at uni, even future teachers, one wacko will exist. Most capitalists or anarcho-capitalists will talk like that. I suspect this "college educated" person was old or only had an associates.

I’ve seen a good amount of criticism of this guy on r/bad history so it’s good that more people become aware of this guys flaws.

@PerfectDeath4

10 ай бұрын

I always remember him back when some Ops he was trying to run while a Sargon orbiter got leaked. So he gets his little discord group together in a panic to walk him through what to say because Sargon is about to call him up. Sargon opens the call saying that he'll record to call (basically giving evidence that he'll want insurance to dump Kraut). One of the people in Kraut's call had been recording the whole thing including the Sargon call and the discord group trying to coach Kraut on what to say which got leaked as well. The Ops they had been planning to do was to fabricate drama that the feminists would pick up and make videos on. However, because Kraut's group would know ahead of time what the topics were they could pre-make videos and arguments to Kraut and also Sargon (who had the bigger channel). Sargon was basically a boomer who didn't do much work aside from playing Ark while the orbiters fed him video ideas back then. xD

@CliffCardi

10 ай бұрын

Does anyone else think his China video aged poorly not just because of COVID, but how he went to “Orange Man bad!” At the end?

@herzog1857

10 ай бұрын

​​@@CliffCardi In fact, that is the point of the whole video about China. The same as his video about Naom Chomsky, where he "criticizes Chomsky" but actually distorts historical facts in order to demonize the Serbs as much as possible. In this way, Kraut kills two birds with one stone. A very slimy method. Kraut suffers from a moral superiority complex and it seems to me that he is actually doing all this to justify himself for past sins.

@frenchcat2910

10 ай бұрын

​@@CliffCardiorange man bad part remains relevant

@extremedrumming3393

10 ай бұрын

@@CliffCardi cope harder lol

As an American social democrat/leftist who is also a fan of Kraut, I've noticed as well his wierd admiration for American institutions, particuarly the fact that in his Denmark video he says it's not enough to just have a law, while in his Liberal History video he says that America is no longer an oligarchy because.... we have laws.

@PaulWHall

10 ай бұрын

It’s because he’s effectively a liberal propagandist. An entertaining and high quality propagandist, but propagandist nonetheless

@soggmeisterlasagnagarfield

10 ай бұрын

Why are you a social democrat? You know social democracy is only possible by the intense exploitation of the Global South? Liberal democracy also entails the same, but still social democracy is liberal democracy but with vacation days for the working class of the imperial core. Why not abolish capitalism instead of making concessions and outsourcing capitalist exploitation?

@davidschultz1987

10 ай бұрын

How do those two statements disagree ? Oligarchy -> Laws -> ‚isn’t enough‘

@comradeblin256

10 ай бұрын

Russia have laws. Why they become olligharchy? Oh maybe because those olligharcs were the ones making the law!

@rubenssilva6902

10 ай бұрын

​@@soggmeisterlasagnagarfieldno economic system is fully independent in the modern era Not even anti capitalist systems were simply not exploiting other nations, nowdays its pratically impossible to not have an top to down system of ppwerful to weak nations, nations such as the USSR and USA had to make other nations weak almost permanently to continue on top. Abolishing capitalism Will not end exploitation, it Will just continue as nothing happend, and i say because as a brazillian, both socialist and capitalist nations exploited us, even national socialists (guess who) made unequal treaties. Its not a question of economic system or ideological sense. But more of an system to show strenght and maintaining it, in which the only way is by eliminating opposition

TLDR: Citation Needed.

@nopeoppeln

10 ай бұрын

pretty much yeah, personally that's been my biggest issue with him

What is it with Krauts obsession with Fukuyama and Why Nations Fail?

@dropyourself

10 ай бұрын

because he has read a handful of books in his life

@inominado1774

10 ай бұрын

because he wants a general theory of everthing

@greybirdz

4 ай бұрын

because he is a neolib shill

@leesnyder9144

Ай бұрын

when i first heard of Fukuyama's ideas they where out of context told to me by people who lived where it was "true." They had adopted them without reading his work. I was confused. Malcolm Gladwell and Jared Diamond have had a similar influence on me and local culture.

Hello, I am a fan of Kraut as well, and I find your video very interesting and hope it does well on the KZread algorithm. I personally have never thought of him as a historian per se, and I believe he on another channel said as much that his goal is to talk about politics, and give analysis and commentary over a true documentary on history. I for one have found many things he has said quite eye-opening, particularly with the Mexican-American border series (I am an American) but I have disagreed with his positions before and do not mind his bias, as compared to others, he does a good job acknowledging it. All that being said, interpreting the facts how you wish is fine, lying about the facts is not. I have thought myself to be wise to all of his bias but you have pointed out things that I did not notice. All in all, I hope this stays civil, and more than anything, Kraut can see this, and use it as constructive criticism, and that you make more videos like this. Understanding people’s biases are important, and all topics deserve to be considered from different angles anyway. Edit: I’ve watched the video through and you’ve gained my subscription. You are right on all accounts. Can’t get mad at him for wandering through different subjects, that’s just what I would do (the Mark Twain school of oration) I am still willing to forgive Kraut for it all so long as there is no omission of facts or sources, and I believe he should also more clearly separate his history from his analysis. I’ll enjoy watching your other videos.

@KatarinaBohtana

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! I'd like to see Kraut improve from criticism such as this. I don't see a reason why he wouldn't if he did watch them at some point.

@zanthar1873

10 ай бұрын

I'm really relating to your comment. I'm an American myself and have grown up in a conservative household so having a liberal voice such as kraut criticize those views was helpful. However, I believe that I should have been more shrewd when listening to his analysis of history and his depictions of cultures I am unfamiliar with. I mainly wish that kraut cites his sources better in the future and that I can be more critical of any videos that come my way.

@BloodRider1914

10 ай бұрын

The videos he mentioned are definitely not Kraut's best, but I do appreciate him for calling attention to interesting ideas, in particular in his recent videos on Putin's ideology and on realism (both of which are more explicitly about political science than history).

@fallingphoenix2341

10 ай бұрын

@@BloodRider1914 I totally agree, that video on realism was felt solid to me and pieces fall a little more into line when you accept Fredda's viewpoint. Kraut seems to have more of a background and or interest in political science. Most political theory that I have encountered, certainly of the realist school, is written by Americans for an American audience. If we use the Freddavian definition of political science "as seeking to promote idealized solutions to perceived contemporary problems", then it becomes clear why the field falls so flat from a European standpoint. We have our own viewpoints and so perceive different problems, may have different ideals, and thus want different theories. Kraut being a fellow European quickly sounds like a fresh voice in that context.

@MCArt25

9 ай бұрын

Kraut is the kind of guy you meet at some student's party who talks your ears off about some nonsense he's read while high as a kite.

kraut markets himself and his content to be that of the result of intellectual rigor and his opinionated demeanor makes it almost impossible to argue against him. to see him humbled is cathartic

@freshnewcungadero

6 ай бұрын

I find it rather easy tbh.

@jakebhenry2228

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t say he’s very opinionated as he openly supports and posts critiques to his work on both his video comment sections and through KZread’s post thingy. If he is opinionated he is very good at having an open mind

@pyotrbagration2438

5 ай бұрын

Brother, are you not aware that Kraut got humbled in 2015/2016 when his brand was anti-sjw/anti-racism? The man took a hiatus, deleted all his old videos, rebranded his channel and he tries to be an intellectual again. A new rebrand is on the horizon.

I really liked his Alcohol and Russia video back in the day but that's mostly because I am half Russian and my family has been absolutely devastated by alcoholism. It played into my experience and therefore, bias, very well. But his video on Russian totalitarianism made me seriously reevaluate him. It felt so detached from reality to pretend like Russia is authoritarian just because "it's always been that way"

@Dmytro_Kuts

10 ай бұрын

When Russia was not authoritarian ?

@Pitchipitch

10 ай бұрын

@@Dmytro_Kuts OP is not saying it was not authoritarian at some point but criticise the explanation Kraut gave on why Russia is authoritatian now.

@deim3

10 ай бұрын

russia has ALWAYS been authoritarian. They had a brief period of apparent freedom in the 90s, but they blew it.

@georgegorespawn236

10 ай бұрын

@@deim3 more like european's blew it, and now they are getting fked for it. It is also funny to hear nazi's criticize Russia while being enslaved by pfizer.

@elpito9326

10 ай бұрын

​@@deim3that 90s period in which Yeltsin quite literally couped Congress and had tanks shoot at the Congress building? Just cause he was friendly with the West it doesn't mean he was not an authoritarian. And I wouldn't say they blew it, cause getting rid of Yeltsin will never not be a good idea (not that his replacements have been any good, but still)

i've found this dude to be very lacking in his historical knowledge for a long time, and even stating outright lies (many of them are in the turkey trilogy of videos) so im glad that someone else agrees and decided to take a look on him!

@tharindufernando3397

10 ай бұрын

Right, I remember seeing his video on Indian vs China societies and noticing a lot was based on assumptions instead of an actual understanding of the histories of both countries. I also had issues with how he just quotes some book he read as evidence.

@CDYT

10 ай бұрын

at least Whatifalthist was unintentionally funny

@juniorjames7076

10 ай бұрын

If you don't mind, can you point out the falsehoods he made in his Turkey trilogy. I lived and worked in Turkey 2013-3018, made many local friends, learned as much as I re: language, culture and history. Frankly I thought it was a phenomenal and excellent portrait of a very complex society. So I'm genuinely interested in your critique.

@mrhaci7747

10 ай бұрын

​@@juniorjames7076he literally tried to show Ataturk like an ultranationalist dictator

@konstancemakjaveli

10 ай бұрын

Says the dude who said the leftist bias is proof of reality

I'm looking forward to this video. I often like to have Kraut's videos on as background noise while I'm doing something else, but now and then I'll pay attention and hear something just obviously incorrect or far too overly simplified and I find myself wondering how much of the rest of his videos are like this.

@damiri-xr6gh

10 ай бұрын

Same bro

@monsieurdorgat6864

10 ай бұрын

Check out the smaller creator Bes.T.Marx. His documentaries are obviously very communist leaning but the history being presented is downright exhaustive. Watching his video on the Turkish communist movement really shows the sheer amount of stuff that Kraut brushes over to favor liberalism.

@Yuhyuhmuhmuh

10 ай бұрын

Same, the China and india video was the one that made me stop believing him at face value

@HerrXoxy

10 ай бұрын

All of them are like this.

@danielhodson6411

10 ай бұрын

Damn if that doesn't describe my "edutainment" youtube listening while I do something else.

Kraut has always seemed like feels over reals type of guy, teetering very close to the romantic concept of unique "folksgeist" per nation to explain how it developed. He also consistently glosses over or completely omits of recent western authoritarianism(he not once mentions western absolutism in the 18th century as an influence on russian authoritarianism), to push the agenda you mentioned.

@wghd6782

7 ай бұрын

Oh Boy, you should’ve seen what he did in strictly German talking spaces before he had his falling out with other right wingers. Compared to that the agenda his putting out there nowadays is a cupcake. Many of the people he hung around with back than are literal Holocaust deniers. Hes gotten a lot better since than, his video about systemic alcoholism and the remnants of the Vichy regime were actually decent.

"Kraut's channel is essentially liberal Prageru," an absolute savage over here. Violating rule 113 of Geneva convention right here.

@fungo6631

10 ай бұрын

Isn't Gravel Institute the liberal PragerU?

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

10 ай бұрын

@@fungo6631 No, Gravel is Leftist. And no, Liberal doesn't mean Leftist. Liberals are on the Libertarian RIGHT.

@fungo6631

10 ай бұрын

​@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 There's social liberals and economic liberals. In 56% Amerimutt context it's mostly used for social liberals.

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

10 ай бұрын

@@fungo6631 Ok!

@durshurrikun150

10 ай бұрын

@@fungo6631 As if social liberals are not economic liberals. Liberals are right wing and they are fascists and thus they deserve the wall. Only communists are left wing and it will be the communist that will slay the liberal aka fascist beast forever.

im a little shocked kraut was unable to put any stock into the idea that present challanges to a communal structure, such as literally anywhere that the state isnt expected to provide, would often times default into mutual aid structures because while YOU today might not need the shoe maker down the street so bad, before centralization under a nation state became the forced norm, communities would understand the benefit to keeping people alive and healthy for reasons beyond their immediate worth to survival. Ancient disabled people were often well taken care of, not for labor or some payoff, but the emotional gain to be had from caring for your fellow humans

@stephenjenkins7971

10 ай бұрын

Ancient disabled people died very quickly and were often very few in number because, surprise surprise; the times were dangerous back then. Those "communal structures" were a joke since they had horrendous living standards and whenever expanded beyond the local community; were unable to co-exist beyond that. Worse yet, it often created warring tribes which remembered vendettas and led to constant warring for the pride of their families and whatnot. Why anybody would want to use that as a good example are either ignorant, or sick themselves imho.

@StitchesForScars

10 ай бұрын

​@stephenjenkins7971 Times were dangerous, but disabled people still existed, not at the rate today, but that's more due to medicine than anything else. None of what you said is true, do you have any sort of source for those statements

@williamwhite6165

10 ай бұрын

@@stephenjenkins7971 to add on to what everyone else has already said, one of the big causes for the grater number of disabled people today is because many injuries or illnesses that would have been life threating I'm the past are easily treatable today. For example, it doesn't matter how well you take care of someone, before the invention of insulin there was no treatment for type 1 diabetes.

@stephenjenkins7971

10 ай бұрын

@@StitchesForScars I don't recall claiming they didn't exist. Just that they were very rare, at least compared to healthy and young adults. The average age of humanity up until the modern age was VERY young. Now the average is into the late 40's to early 50's in the industrialized nations. It's much more costly for society to handle, let alone a community. And don't go asking for a source when OP gave none themselves. That's just hypocritical. Which is about typical for channels like this. 👍

@StitchesForScars

10 ай бұрын

@@stephenjenkins7971 no it would be hypocritical of them, nor did I claim that you claimed they didn't exist, and even more, I asked for your sources and not theirs NOT because I agree with them but because your ideas have more weight to the damage they can cause

Your videos are super important; properly criticizing pop history channels is a rare niche here on KZread. Thank you! Also, the time stamps and sources? *chefs kiss*

@MeEntertainmentJo_876

6 ай бұрын

The sources are all just Marxian historians re-writing history to fit a Marxian narrative. It’s not as great as I wanted it to be sadly.

"Citing Historical Materialism to prove class solidarity isn't socialism" is extremely funny and very Kraut thing to do!

@jonasastrom7422

9 ай бұрын

You're both guilty of trying to bend history to your philosophical and political views. One example is how marxists will do everything in their power to diminish how terrible living conditions were before the industrial revolution.

Holy shit man as a history student watching this and currently doing a bunch of IB stuff for history the fact you CITE YOUR FUCKING SOURCES alone is so welcoming and going further you are very very well written

That bibliography looks like every source Kraut mentioned in his channel put together (quantity-wise) , and never does he use proper citations. No citations, only countryballs.

Kraut's video on India and Pakistan is the last of his I watched. I didnt even get to the ottoman or turkish ones. One can smell the bias a mile away and Im suprised to see so many commentors baffled by Kraut being called out. No its not a new thing. His own subreddit has been calling out his inaccurate story telling for a while.

@pivomanslovensko

10 ай бұрын

Everyone is biased. I wasn't trying to defend kraut😖

@bwgaming-lq4gd

10 ай бұрын

​@@pivomanslovenskodoesn't mean they shouldn't do research and not try to be biased

@pennyforyourthots

10 ай бұрын

​@@pivomanslovenskosure, but some people are biased in favor of reality. Kraut is... Not that.

@page8301

10 ай бұрын

@@pivomanslovensko That is not an argument.

@theamazingfuzzlord

10 ай бұрын

It was the video where he “explained” Indian and Chinese societies that I finally saw he might be a little too simplistic in his analysis

Watching kraut always feels like someone trying to explain 2000 years of history in 1 hour with no clear reason for doing so

@jamesbackstar8285

10 ай бұрын

Ngl, pretty accurate Especially the Danube video

@goose9515

9 ай бұрын

Especially the netherlands video he cancelled, he kept saying in his community posts how the project kept getting bigger and bigger and he was APPROACHING 20 HOURS before he cancelled it

@hyperion3145

9 ай бұрын

Literally started his Turkey series with the invention of agriculture all the way to Ataturk

@jamesbackstar8285

9 ай бұрын

@@hyperion3145 lmao

@ihl0700677525

9 ай бұрын

Just like most of other successful KZreadrs, I suppose he created those videos for his audience. He has found his niche. If you find his videos boring or otherwise have no reason to exist, I suppose they are simply not your cup of tea.

My favourite example of kraut just being blatantly wrong/misinformed about history was Native American history. which is like okay he's european so I dont expect him to be an expert but he is supposed to be a history suave guy, so I would expect him to know how to read up on some thing more than basic and vauge facts (which arent even right most of the time) he called native americans "nomadic hunter gatherers who associated only in loose affiliations between their bands, with the most complexity being inter tribal confederacies." Which is just completely wrong nearly in its 100% entirety. They weren't hunter gatherers as most of continent practiced horticulture, which is Agriculture supplemented by hunting and foraging. Hunter Gatherers dont practice any agriculture. This lead to a balanced and diverse diet. They did after all create the most diverse crop set in the world, from beans, tomatoes, corn, squash, potatoes, to bell peppers and more. Other groups were fishermen and whalers like the maritime atlantic coast with the mikmaq, or the pacific north west with the many hundreds of different groups found there. Its hard to overstate how diverse the economic production varied by region. Most weren't nomads either. Again most were semi sedentary or permanent sedentary peoples. They would stay in one place most of their lives in some regions like with the pueblos or the cahoka canyon houses. There was also semi sedentary, these were usually people who built longhouses. these were like apartments which held multiple families in each long house (with larger ones holding dozens of families.) these are found in places like the northwest, the great lakes and other regions. Even the nomadic tribes werent as we envision them, following the buffalo. This wasnt until they were mobile enough to do so once horses arrived, meaning most tribes we know as nomadic actually abandoned agriculture for nomdqic hunting because the horse. before that you would need use dogs who could only carry smaller loads and over shorter distances, or you carried it yourself and hauled your tiipii, tools, etc. with you by foot or by canoe. But groups like the blackfoot simply didnt canoe so they would resort to doing the Buffalo jump. A method that required planning, and required herding buffalo into the "funnels" built from mile long mounds that lead to a choke point that narrows at the edge of a cliff leading to the famous run away effect of the stampede. Anyways, I could also go into the seer complexity of indigenous social and political organization but in short it was very similar to the rest of the world: identities formed based on things like lamguage, history and culture, living in a region, etc. Basically nationalism where people identified as being from a speicifc nation rather than identifying as for example one of the ethnic groups. As an example of what i mean; Mandan Hidasta Arikawa are one single nation but made of 3 seperate ethnicities who speak seperate languages. Thwy formed to control the horse trade but yeah even trying to understand a basic version of indigenous political structures is smt that takes an entire video to do Sorry for the long ass tid bit but I just wanted to show how fucking wrong Kraut is when it comes to historical and especially history concerned with societies, since Kraut loves to be adamant about how much he isnt a geographical determinist and instead followed societal determinism. Thanks, I just wanted to finally agree with someone about how bad kraut is at history despite it being his job

@TheAnticlinton

10 ай бұрын

What do you expect. Hes an extreme eurocentrist, and the kicker is that he doesn't do eurocentrism innocently. He has an agenda to portray western civilization as the most ethical and socially advanced, in order to gain support for current western hegemony.

@Seth9809

10 ай бұрын

Okay, so you're mad at him for getting something wrong, that basically everyone gets wrong. I literally have textbooks that confuse half-nomadic peoples for fully nomadic peoples, and people who partially hunt and gather for people who fully do so. I also have books that call people nomads despite them setting down for months at a time. Also, dozens of tribes didn't really farm or couldn't.

@balistic9475

9 ай бұрын

@@Seth9809 other people's incompetence doesn't excuse your own. Also just because the term may apply to a small minority of a people, doesn't mean you can just blanketly apply the term to the whole group that's fucking stupid and not how demographics work.

@hyperion3145

9 ай бұрын

Also want to note if it wasn't already stayed, some of the indigenous people had full on state level societies outside of the famous Aztecs and Inca, the Calusa and Timucua peoples in Florida are recorded as having governments very similar to some European monarchies at the time with their own nobles, vassals and laws.

@scythermantis

9 ай бұрын

LOL are you Kraut's butt-boy or something? There are real consequences including diminishing or apologising for Colonialism and Genocide and White Supremacy embedded in these narratives and so it is our duty as decent and empathetic beings to oppose them.

I've watched Kraut in the past, but stopped around the time of his first Turkey video. Even though i know little of histor there was a sense of wrongness that just kept growing as I watched his videos. Which probably just got so bad around that time that I unsubscribed. So hearing from someone who is good at History™ will be interesting.

@kostajovanovic3711

10 ай бұрын

In the past, before his first channel was terminated?

@monsieurdorgat6864

10 ай бұрын

Honestly, knowing literally nothing about Turkey I didn't see anything wrong with it. It wasn't until I saw the EXHAUSTIVE documentary on the communist revolution in Turkey by Bes. T. Marx that it became obvious just HOW MUCH Kraut was brushing over in service to favoring liberalism.

@strategicowl192

10 ай бұрын

@@kostajovanovic3711 I was referring to a video from three years ago, which is the start of the three part "the Turkish century" series. so I don't think so.

@CamembertDave

10 ай бұрын

The "sense of wrongness that just kept growing" was also my experience watching Kraut. No single statement was offensively wrong, there was just an uncomfortable feeling that everything was being presented from a warped perspective.

@Internet_Canuck

10 ай бұрын

I remember during one of the Turkey videos he states that Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union had once thought about splitting Turkey as they had done Poland yet I've never been able to find any sort of evidence backing it up.

I've been watching kraut to a certain extent for a year or so, It's very nice to see somebody challenging his ideas, I am more interested to see his response and that of his community, discussions like these are extremely fun to see, thank you for making this video!

@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944

10 ай бұрын

Well. The last time someone from the left criticized Kraut it didn't go well. He was Fascist then, and let's say he kinda bragged about it. Now he is a liberal which is a step up, but I do not think his views on communism changed that much.

@looseygoosey1349

7 ай бұрын

@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 good. Communism is great on paper and nowhere else.

@Svistov

7 ай бұрын

​@@looseygoosey1349- Cuban living in Miami

@boyman7823

6 ай бұрын

@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 people have literally no idea what fascism means lol

@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944

6 ай бұрын

@@boyman7823 He literally went around and bragged about how racist he and his friends are. He even wrote tasteful shit to person criticizing him like: Look at this Jew. My dude. If it's racist like a fascist and antisemitic like a fascist then it's probably fascist.

ngl I like his videos but i completely lost trust in him when i was writing an essay about something similar to one of his videos about Mexico and tried to find the source for a claim he made in it and literally couldn't find it anywhere 😭

@afgor1088

10 ай бұрын

yeah, that's not uncommon. he'll just flat out lie, almost every video of his i've watched has had multiple glaring lies that there's no way he didn't know about. he's not a history youtuber, he's an ideologue. basically fox news for liberals who like to think they're smart.

@hectorvega621

9 ай бұрын

Which source? The one about the guy talking about how Mexico one Party System is the perfect Dictatorship? Which to me sounded more of accurate description of the US. Especially that Mexico is more Democratic than the US right now. Nor did I like the ending of that series. Or the claim that Billionaires make innovations despite it being the Government of the United States that invested the most in innovations.

@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift

7 ай бұрын

As a Mexican, I did had the same problem when he tried to claim that AMLO is just "PRI 2.0". The hypocrisy here is that he was lamenting that mexico needs to vote for a new political party to challenge and overtake PRI's ineffective centrist catch-all monopoly on the government. Ignoring WHY the majority of mexico decided to end PRI's century of rule

@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift

Ай бұрын

updated thoughts: given the fact that MORENA is a self described anti-neoliberal party. i sense he has some petty grivences over MORENA dwarfing mexico's SocDem party PRD. where MORENA has half the legislative seats. while PRD only has only a dozen

@gloverfox9135

Күн бұрын

@@hectorvega621Mexico isn’t more democratic than the U.S. lmao. Mexico is literally ruled by cartels

This wouldn’t be the only time someone has found errors in Kraut. In one of his videos on China, he claims that the Austronesians originated in Madagascar in order to reinforce how well the native Formosans have been Sinicized. All of the proposed origin points of the Austronesian peoples are in Asia. One theory even claims they came from Mainland China, living as far north as the Han heartland of Shandong Province before migrating to Taiwan.

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

He has a "gift" of relating today's political events to prehistoric background about which not even people 3000 years ago were aware of.

@SoMuchFacepalm

4 ай бұрын

His point is that they were more closely related to Hawaiians, Maori, and Malagasy, than the Han. Hence the cultural differences. You know, the thing he was talking about? Unless you think that Sinicization is a biological process?

@fkakasumi9713

4 ай бұрын

@@SoMuchFacepalm It's still blatant pseudo-history and making stuff up. It doesn't matter if you have a good point if you use actual lies to make it

@andrewlaporte5477

3 ай бұрын

​@@SoMuchFacepalmThat doesn't make a bad fact ok to make. We should all be able to say that the destruction of Welsh and brythonic languages and culture by the Norman-ruled English is a tragedy without claiming, say, Wales was founded by Norse.

@SoMuchFacepalm

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewlaporte5477 Exactly. The claim "Wales was founded by the Norse" is irrelevant to the issue of the destruction of Welsh and Brythonic languages, regardless of if it's true or not. The claim "Madagascar was settled by the Polynesians" is irrelevant to the point that the Taiwanese natives are more closely related to the Malagasy than the mainland Han, regardless of if it's true or not.

Thank you for reminding us all to think critical about these videos, I really believed Kraut.

@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the complete ignoring of the leftist movements in Scandinavian countries is really wack.

@Sentient_Blob

7 ай бұрын

I really dislike how Kraut presents his content as so objective. Freda is very open about his biases and it makes his content much easier to put into perspective

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

7 ай бұрын

@@Sentient_Blob i think krauts gotten so much better than before but man is he insufferable at times

@somedud1140

6 ай бұрын

Why? He has been doing it for a really long time! He rode on Islamophobia train, when it was popular during migrant crisis. Then to distance himself from the extreme right, he "debunked" the claim that Europeans and Africans and Arabs are different, because they have different reproduction strategy, they used r/K selection as a metaphor. So what did the Kraut do to debunk it? Instead of showcasing, that European families also had many kids in on average in the beginning of 20th century and the current norm of two or less kids is very recent, he not only took r/K literally, he also invoked the "pregnant trout". Nothing changed, now he's riding russophobia train and his "facts" are still whatever he needs them to be exact this second. Never mind that whole Europe has similar history of dictator kings ruling as they wish.

I recomend checking CallMeEzekiel he seems to romanticise somethings And also Hoser Who seems to tell historically disputed claims and information as facts sometimes

@oneproudukrainian2063

10 ай бұрын

The Vicky2 guy?

@akithefrog

10 ай бұрын

i remember his video on columbus being really tasteless

@soyracista21debroma

10 ай бұрын

​@@oneproudukrainian2063I only know him as the countryballs guy

@soyracista21debroma

10 ай бұрын

@@akithefrog Yeah and I have see him state historical disputed things as outright facts, just like Hoser

@izzystar5904

10 ай бұрын

I like Hoser but he's trying very hard to become another Sam O' Nella humor-wise but fumbles a lot on the fact checking

11:07 China does this, but don't expect him to say such positive things about the Chinese government.

It's also "interesting" to use Denmark specifically as an example of how "the Scandinavian countries" exited feudalism with a "significantly more empowered peasantry ", given that Denmark was the only Nordic country to re-introduce serfdom in the 18th century... Edit: heh, guess I should have waited a moment longer xD

Ever since the WhatIfAltHist videos I was hoping you would get to Kraut

@notbryan255

9 ай бұрын

hes way worse than kraut. I don't think its fair to say covering whatifalthist eventually leads to kraut.

Kraut doesn't mention the "democratic and social republic of France", the transtionary government that followed the 1848 revolution in France, where one could argue the first social democracy was born as they somewhat started a welfare state, it ended up leading to Napoleon III's rise after it brutally cracked down on protests and it was relatively short, not lasting a year but it showed that Denmark wasn't unique.

Finally. Thank you for making this video, I've been criticizing Kraut for a very long time and it felt like speaking into the void. I'm a history student myself, finishing my studies on Russian history, and while his works gave me a weird feeling of something being off for a long time, his video on Russian authoritarianism has been a wake up call. He misrepresents facts and uses what's convenient to his narrative, while skipping over what isn't and filling in the gaps however he pleases, presents controversial theories as ultimate truth and outright contradicts his sources. He's a demagogue spreading his political message and not a reliable source about anything relating to history

@franslair2199

5 ай бұрын

It helps keep in mind that Kraut doesn't consider Russians human, thinks this is a common view, and said as such himself

@macanaeh

5 ай бұрын

@@franslair2199 It is a fairly common view to be entirely honest, especially in the history and historical video games parts of the internet. Complexity is too complex to fathom I guess

It's very funny how much of the stuff Kraut says on his videos can be debunked with a simple google search, let alone deeper historical research

You’re gonna poke the beehive with this one. His fans are RAVENOUS.

@relight6931

10 ай бұрын

Are they really? Well I guess that makes sense since he does cover countries all around..

As a former kraut fan I can’t wait!

@MK_ULTRA420

10 ай бұрын

As a current Metokur fan I also can't wait!

@rustkitty

10 ай бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 Wait, Metokur is still around? Why?

@MK_ULTRA420

10 ай бұрын

@@rustkitty Why are you such a racist?

I feel your commentary on the undergrad thesis so much. When I did my thesis paper for my bachelors I chose the Prague Spring as a topic, partially because I was interested to learn more about it and partially because I was the only person in my class to choose any topic outside of North America (the topic had to be something from 1968). I very quickly realized that not only did I know very little about the Prague Spring, but I also got heavily side tracked and investigated the machinations of the other members of the Warsaw pact during this time. I wanted to write about how the Prague Spring contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union, but got so heavily side tracked looking for evidence to support my thesis elsewhere that I ended up not really answering my thesis question, at least not as coherently as I wanted to. Even though I don’t work in academia I still try to apply the lessons I learned from that paper and try to better focus my attention on what the goal is. I think it is a rather easy stumble to make, at least for me lol.

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

You work with what you discover, you don't try to prove a thesis apriori finding the evidences. If you do that, you work with a very biased analysis.

@shen4379

5 ай бұрын

Yes, this is exactly what the essays (namely the DBQ) I wrote in AP World History class and for the AP test. For the DBQ, we would be given numerous primary and secondary sources to build our thesis from in order to answer whatever question was asked. Those essays taught, at least for me, an indirect lesson that to create a strong thesis, one needed to craft their thesis from sources rather than create one then go out and find sources that support the thesis. This may seem very obvious to any student of history, but that was a profound paradigm shift for a fifteen year old in 10th grade.

I dislike him in the past and by past I mean 7 years ago he literally called for muslim genocide and now he is trying to make him self look like a centreist and worst then that he attack any one who disagree with the official view of China and Xinjiang or Yugoslavia he literally made fun of algerians that got massacred by French colonliasts and now he is crying about russian impirlasim

@Rifqiethehero

10 ай бұрын

He literally likes Pax Tube, both are dumbass

@flavius2884

9 ай бұрын

That is some heavy accusation. Do you have a source?

@osamaal-jundi2186

9 ай бұрын

@@flavius2884 he deleted his old twiter but here is a video where you can see his old twites the video is stupied and i dissage with badempenada but when he goes to google you can see the old twites were he called for genocide and made fun of algerians killed by french colonilests go to 3:35 in the video to see what kraut believes

You have no idea how long I've wanted this video

"you might be able to tell by my accent that I'm Norwegian" ....no man, I'm from the U.S., I definitely cannot. Great video btw, subscribing right now :)

I admit, I never really put that much thought into Kraut's videos. Just enjoyed them as they are. So thanks for giving me (and doubtless others) a reason to pause and actually consider them instead of blindly accepting the message as is.

kraut always struck me as a guy who gets a theory and then just finds or even manifests pieces to fit into it. it's interesting and all, but from what I've seen of him he has a tendency to avoid discussing specifics and more detailed explanations and so ends up doing a lot of narrativizing. his analysis can kind of hold up when taken as a whole story combined with his conclusions, but that's not actually history, is it. it's more a kind of hagiography or mythologizing than historical inquiry. gee I wonder why Kraut, famously an ex-orbiter of goofballs like Carl Benjamin of Akkad would so regularly end up narrativizing history in a way that can smooth over the real historical details and people in favor of presenting an overarching Story informed not so much by historical record but by one's own--eh, im boring myself

@kyokyodisaster4842

10 ай бұрын

Weirdly enough: I think a lot of 'historical communicators' end up like this and I frankly don't know what to think of it.

@michielvandersijs6257

10 ай бұрын

Honestly you just described political science. They are not historians but they will liberally borrow from history the elements that happen to fit their theory. And it kinda makes sense. Political science deals with an extremely abstract sets of patterns that are applied to extremely complex social systems.

@DellDuckfan313

7 ай бұрын

@@kyokyodisaster4842 It's funny that you use the term 'history communicator', because I think the same holds true for science communicators. Communication just prefers narrative over method, it seems.

I really wanted to say thank u I was really into kraut becouse i really like the brain4breakfast style, but since the socialdemocracy video in which he talks about everything except the topic i just couldn keep up Looking forward to the video

@icyicebear4119

10 ай бұрын

He does tho? He explains how social democracy came to be in denmark through social developments. Obviously I'm no scholar, I'm just a kid with an interest in history and politics, but saying he "didn't talk about social democracy" is just a boldface lie in my opinion. Unless you are saying he didn't talk about what it actually IS, which is an unfair criticism to make given the whole point of the video is to explain its origins

@tetraglucido8612

10 ай бұрын

@@icyicebear4119 Well when i studied socialdemocracy in the uni we studied WWI, the German Revolution and the Russian Revolution aswell as the petite boureoisie tendencies in the left (for example kautsky). The problem is not only that this doesnt appear, but also that Kraut instead makes a mithological tale which for me is nonesensical. However I study philosophy so maybe my understanding its a modern conception, thats why i really like that an actual historian like Fredda explains this stuff

@thegreatteaman

10 ай бұрын

Rip Brain4Breakfast

@tizioincognito161

10 ай бұрын

@@tetraglucido8612 as a social democrat kraut's video is wrong but in my opinion reducing the analysis of the movement just to ww1, the german and russian revolution and the burgeoise tendencies imo its also wrong. theres a universe of leftisms orbiting social democracy which would be intersting to analize, one of which fredda mentioned, such as labourism/syndicalism, aka how social democratic parties collaborated with unions, leading eventually to the modern danish landscape charcterized by a welfare state such as healthcare and housing, that is partly handled by unions themselves under the mandate and policing of the state, in a strange type of libertarian socialism inside a liberal democracy. or another interesting episode to analize, to get outside denmark, how early socialists, among those early social democrats, basically spawned into existance defacto the first cooperatives (and thus also the beginning of market socialism), during the period of the commune of paris.

@tetraglucido8612

10 ай бұрын

​@@tizioincognito161I agree that i should educate myself through the references used by Fredda due to the simplification of the subject that i was given. But I tottaly disagree with the nature of the, what u call, libertarian socialist reforms. As said in the minute 14:00 in the video these reforms are just compensension from the upper classes to avoid revolution. The welfare state is a tool of control of the proletariat and not a libertarian socialist policy. Libertarian socialist seeks to liberate the proletariat through socialism not through state institutuons. And the link between unionism and socialdemocrats is usually of state control of left leaning institutions. An example of this is how in Spain the state favours the friendlier unions through economic benefits. In the end is not that left leaning politics were orbiting social democracy, but that left leaning politics orbit around the material condintions and the class consciousness to archive political gain in spite of the proletariat or with the proletariat.

As someone who watched kraut make videos and trusts him (pre video) I’m curious to see what happens. Especially because he seems like a down to earth person. I personally also would like to see someone make some sort of critique of your work as well. I say that not out of any malice, but more out of curiosity. I’d like to see the full spectrum of opinions and ideas so I can (because I forgot the better term) compare and contrast them. Lastly I am still very curious. I’ve seen other KZreadrs push against Whatifalthist, was able to quickly see the bias in the heavily religous guy’s crusade videos, but I’ve never seen criticism to krauts work (besides genuine facts getting messed up. Which I personally believe is better than having your bias take over your work) perhaps I have similar views to him so I’m less sensitive to his criticism. (AGAIN I HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO IF HE TURNS OUT TO BE VERY BAD THAN I OBVIOUSLY DONT AGREE) sorry for writing such a long comment no one will see. Wanted to put some thoughts out. Freda if you see this have a nice day!

@renatopereira2315

10 ай бұрын

Its basically the same thing as WhatIfAltHist but not as bad. Instead of a loony you get a lib who tries to look grounded and based but ends up passing western imperialist propaganda as history

@FreddaYT

10 ай бұрын

Kraut is not far-right (anymore) like the other people I've usually talked about but the tendencies they are prone to are tendencies he's also prone to specifically due to the way he and they approach the use of sources. They obfuscate the knowledge in the sources which means you just have to take them on their word, which creates situations where they can decide to just play it fast and loose.

@Jamaimz

10 ай бұрын

@@FreddaYT ah ok. thank you for clearing this up for me. im excited as the video is about to drop!!

@addickland5656

10 ай бұрын

@@FreddaYT In fairness though, I do think (and I'd be surprised if you didn't) that Kraut is still a hell of a lot more reasonable and interesting to listen to than some of those other guys you've called out. Simply honestly stating that he, just like everyone else, is guilty of confirmation bias and that he is a liberal/idealist in many aspects lifts him well above a whole bunch of (alt-)history youtubers who seem to be biologically incaple of self-reflection (we all know whom I'm talking about), and puts him at least at "sincere but biased", and not some grifter or political hack. Would you agree or is that still too rosy on my end?

@eleaticeyes813

10 ай бұрын

@@tb3667Saying the skeptic community is liberal is the same as Tim Pool claiming he's liberal.

Kraut's video on Russia was the reason why I started writing a script for a video response two years ago. Read tons of Russian/English and some Ukrainian and Polish literature and studies on this topic. Unfortunately, I will almost certainly never make the video, because of the war in Ukraine. Still, your response - albeit brief and doesn't delve into details of the matter - is very much needed. Because as far as I know nobody even tried debunking Kraut's bs here on this platform. Thank you!

@sylvali1046

10 ай бұрын

you could still pass your unfinished script around in a Google Doc or something like that

@user-ym2ne1zg1b

10 ай бұрын

@@sylvali1046 well it was still only like 10 percent done, lmao, so not worth it. But reading all the books was still useful, lol

@somedud1140

7 ай бұрын

This historical essentialism view gained a lot of popularity through war propaganda. Essentially it shifts focus from politics to "Russian's are born wrong, because millennia of dictatorship." The weird part is, he once opposed that view when it came to Muslims. To debunk r/K metaphor, he went as far as brought up the pregnant trout(academics please respond!), to show that Arabs and Africans aren't that different from us. Even when he's right, he invokes the worst non-arguments imaginable.

@benismann

6 ай бұрын

@@somedud1140 wait u didnt quote anything about "russian slave mentality" and russians being subhumans? I bet you're a russian spy

As much as people give Denmark credit for "reducing carbon emissions", we have merely been outsourcing. When we count our carbon emissions, we focus on the energy consumption and production of our OWN nation. Things such as import is not focused on. I understand that us, a small nation with lack of production in many areas, have to import. But we cant take the crown for green-nation, when the average dane use their clothes a few times before buying new clothes.

My god Fredda, you never miss with your video topics 🎉

First LP vs. Cone, now Fredda vs. Kraut.

@kyokyodisaster4842

10 ай бұрын

Its like historytube is at war right now...my god.

@skaldlouiscyphre2453

10 ай бұрын

@@kyokyodisaster4842 So, will you be joining the Entente or the Allies?

@kyokyodisaster4842

10 ай бұрын

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Personally? I am on the side of Cone, but that is more to do with the fact I personally found Pig's video to be Ad hominem attacks, with a single good point that Cone didn't have the EXACT work to work off of. Which side would that put me on then?

@skaldlouiscyphre2453

10 ай бұрын

@@kyokyodisaster4842 I'm not sure, but that's a rather interesting take. Personally I think Cone's been much more condescending than correct the whole time and earned the stern rebuke over attacking someone else's research abilities while taking VK posts as credible. But I don't think it's worth getting worked up over; they're all human, they all have room for fair criticisms and they all have egos and feelings that sometimes get hurt. But beyond that, their differences in style mean there's no real way CoA or RE can win. LP is clearly a character who says things for comedic purposes at times; Cone and Red try to be serious. LP can nitpick them for inaccuracies but if they try to return the favour it's almost inevitable they'll end up including joking comments that most people understand aren't factual. Between concession, providing details to support his position, showing us the books he drew upon, etc I'd say LP largely addressed the criticisms well, even if he was needlessly caustic at times while doing so. In particular the argument over the engine seems to be solidly in LP's favour. I'll spare you the infodump about similar examples of engines gaining or losing cylinders without representing a significant redesign. Four easy examples: the Chevy 90° V6, basically a Chevy V8 of the era, minus two cylinders; the Buick 90° V6, exact same story; the Nissan L engine, came as both a 4 and an inline 6; the Ford Cologne 60° V6 is their Taunus V4 engine, plus another pair.

@kyokyodisaster4842

10 ай бұрын

Indeed, no matter the case this brings up a weird factoid I keep having been brought up on Science channels: Namely, that science itself is a continuously evolving medium where everyone WANTS to be right for both validation, fame, or profit. History, Paleontology (see The Extinction Debate), or even the study of tank mechanics and design such as the niche case above. I feel like, the universe is telling me to do something and make a video on my own likes too, since it seems apt to mention. @@skaldlouiscyphre2453

A very interesting video! I watched every Kraut video and relied on his historical analysis to gain knowledge, and since my historical knowledge is limited to what i've learned in highschool and on my own efforts, I have never noticed Krauts logical leaps or lack of proof in his statements. I very much appreciate your video!

Discovering your channel, as a recently graduate in a bachelor's degree in History, and watching this video might just have made me completly motivated to start my master degree in History in 2024 after my second cycle programme in superior education ( for teaching in a cegep in Quebec), hopefully on roman antiquity, but the subject remains to be determined (perhaps on physical health and gladiators). I hope more history channels take note of you.

Ahhh shoot... tomorrow ? I'l wait i guess. Kraut has popped up in my feed, especially that realism-liberalism video. That one i had not went deep into, but other on Balkan geopolitics stuff seemed way off. I am all for change and redemption but it seems that many "ex-right wingers" YT channels keep some of the right wing habits

@Emel_unlegit

10 ай бұрын

Other example on the 'former right wing' youtubers?

@AL-lh2ht

10 ай бұрын

@@Emel_unlegitthunderfoot or whatever that guy name was. More pure science focused now.

@parazitkolol

10 ай бұрын

As a Balkanezer myself, his Balkan videos made me want to rip my hair out

@djordjetosic4553

10 ай бұрын

@@Emel_unlegit Also AdamSomething and Hunter Avalone. I get it, they want to do good, but hey man, sometimes they just need to shut up and learn more

@rudolph2937

10 ай бұрын

@@djordjetosic4553 AdamSomething is an ex-right wing tuber? Could you tell more about it, because I started watching him from his urban planning videos, which are actually very good, but I unsubscribed when he started warmongering about the war on Ukraine

I love a good dialectic discussion so I can see the good points on both side and be aware of more nuance. Good on you for bringing a different perspective that serves as a good counter

Gunter here. I did a narration for his Mexico video. I have been trying to be chummy with him but it has been quite some time where his Liberal ideals have completely superseded his actual history. The worst part is that he fundamentally doesn't understand economics. He has basically been grifting Brains4Breakfast postdeath and it is rather disrespectful. I apologize for being involved with him but fear any sort of targeted hate coming my way. A lot of targeted hate is why the No Idea Animations channel is dormant as of now. Not dead, just sleeping. Have a blessed day. Gunter out.

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

Don't worry, you have nothing to blame on yourself. I was for a brief period in contant with him too. He's very mentally unstable and suffer of westernism. Honestly he's an obese poor-ass with all failed relationships and no IRL friends, leaving himself with nothing but addiction for e-drama with which he still copes with and I suppose he pretends to want to recover from. His polandballl is basically a way to spread his ideology to a younger audience because his generation (well he's old by now) does not swallow him. All his pseudo-history videos are means for him to get at his ideological enemies, from the former alt-right/natwits, to antifa, progressists, feminists, muslims and whatever.

The thing about Novgorod seems like he picked it up from Europa Universalis to be honest

@novinceinhosic3531

10 ай бұрын

"If Novgorod is so great, why did it burn? Check-mate aristocrat!" - turningpoints Moskaw, Ivan the Terrible.

@user-ym2ne1zg1b

10 ай бұрын

​@@novinceinhosic3531Ironically enough the majority of aristocrats who were killed by Ivan the IVth were of Muscovite origin, lmao.

He has some sort of Islamophobic infatuation, similar to sam harris, except kraut is willing to literally lie to make his arguments. I honestly hoped he had lost relevance by now, but I guess he's still hanging on.

@lilrichardseddon

10 ай бұрын

When does he lie? I haven’t seen anything said in bad faith, merely a disagreeable interpretation of history, but that is hardly a terrible thing. Unless only doctrinally Marxist historiography is correct, then there is no hope for the truth in any case

@snowballeffect7812

10 ай бұрын

@@lilrichardseddon you can check other commentors. Even in the video, he's frequently cited sources that directly contradict his position as he's citing them. The most eggregious case I remember was when he claimed Ilhan Omar made violent threats towards Israel without showing the full clip. If you went on to then actually look at the clip, she doesn't even say anything antisemetic in it. At that point, I knew there was nothing I could trust from him, and this was after his "reformation" and leaving the alt-right.

@lineb98

9 ай бұрын

He is not islamophobic. On the contrary, he has significantly fought back bosniak genocide denial coming from various parts of the left.

Ooh, about to get spicy. Kraut can be enjoyable to listen to, but excluding his actual multi-part videos on the Republic of Turkey and republic of mexico, he could really use at least a bibliography, but I'd settle for that and his attempts to stop attaching PolSci and current developments to historical events.

@Nomadith

10 ай бұрын

Also even as a kraut fan, it's imperitive to give him criticism, as we should criticise everything - especially the points we agree with or people we listen to.

Thank you for this video! Hopefully KZread can serve as an open environment for collective constructive criticism as well as creation! A kind of crowd-peer-review? I love Kraut’s videos because they seem in-depth, but I guess that’s because the standards are so low! I genuinely believed that KZread, freed of the restrictions and structures of broadcast media, could be a better avenue for knowledge exchange. But I guess it has a long way to go before it reaches academic standards. As for the sections you picked, spot on with the end of the Denmark video. That always confused me! And the video about Mongol Russia-one of his worst!-came off as uncharacteristicly, eerily orientalist. What bothered me most was his confused chronology of the Napoleonic invasion of Spain. Kraut does have an odd mix of serious analysis and axes to grind. But I remain a fan of his. Folks can improve, right? This videos inspires me to up my game historically, so thank you also for that. I’m also doing history content, more jokey and subjective than what Kraut does-at least for now. Cheers, man!

@Speederzzz

10 ай бұрын

A kraut-crowd-peer review

I used to watch Kraut, but I then saw through his bias, and I am here to thank you for taking a shot at him, and being successful

@looseygoosey1349

7 ай бұрын

doesnt everyone have a bias?

@JadetasticUwU

7 ай бұрын

@@looseygoosey1349 yeah, but his perpetrates a ideology of greed and suffering for the third world

Thank you, had my issues with krauf since his vid in Chomsky. It was fundamentally correct in that Chomsky did things like deny genocide but it lacked in a lot of places

@Leo-ok3uj

10 ай бұрын

I am pretty sure that by the end of this video we will be able to agree in one thing At least he is not Chomsky

@thechunguses

10 ай бұрын

Man you can't just say you agree with him and then say he was wrong on something without pointing out what it was.

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

10 ай бұрын

Was that before or after Chomsky became a full-blown Russian Z-apologist?

@Emel_unlegit

10 ай бұрын

@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation before, he talked about stuff like the Yugoslav wars

@redacted9280

10 ай бұрын

​@@Leo-ok3ujto be fair, the bar is on the ground

I am a huge kraut fan but also aware of his flaws. I like your takes so I'm definately looking foreward to this video

@sylviamontaez3889

10 ай бұрын

does make me wonder if I should stop watching kraut if he's making so many innacuracies.... yet again that may depend on whether I agree with the points fredda makes in the video

@spedrun

10 ай бұрын

@@sylviamontaez3889 you don't need to watch him for his accuracy. You can also just watch him for his entertainment value. You really shouldn't be looking for accurate info on youtube

@relight6931

10 ай бұрын

@@spedrun This is a really good advice and on point. I once spent months, trying to make up my mind on a world view, that I just couldn't organically make. I was trying to perceive the object of my issues, from multiple sides, but from basically two major groups. The biggest problem is that even when careful, there is serious lack of nuance. You will either get group A saying this happened because of this, while group B will have a take that don't even consider any input from group A as... real? Their debates were also in bad faith, and while from near exhaustion, after I few months, I tried to form my own, evidence based opinion and was somewhat satisfied with the "work" put in, and my now evidence based world view... Since then I have changed it in nuance, several more times, and today, 4 years later, I can explain it from both perspectives and if I didn't go through it the first time.. Lets just say that this platform has a problem of, if dealing with serious life issues, the creator will maybe even unconsciously gravitate towards things that have established audience.. In other words, while trying to be intellectually honest, he will still try to get as many views as possible.. It's kind of like, asking an American citizen with his basic education, why socialism never "really worked"? They might do their best, and yet still fall so very short. Even with actual research, what they might chose as sources, will already be biased.. Then again, asking own self, later, then how come there are so many decent socialist creators, who are actually living their whole lives in USA? tl;dr Living off of creating youtube videos, has very different requirements (getting the audience, getting paid, quitting your daily job), then being fairly balanced, nuanced, well researched and maybe even have some life experience about the very serious topic you are trying to cover and present to others. Or you know, don't cover history, where every country has it's own, just a tad bit nicer version, and instead do something like Sam O'neilla academy, and just be super good with puns.. Humor can make someone keep coming back as much if not better, then taking self too seriously and covering naturally divisive stuff.

@aribantala

10 ай бұрын

​@@sylviamontaez3889I won't take any videos on KZread as accurate... Whoever made the video. New facts always arises in Science so always cross check the sources and make sure to not make rash decisions. Plus Kraut, at least, doesn't argue his stuff in bad faith. He's somewhat honest when he was wrong, like how he absolutely purged his entire channel from the Garbage Supremacist content he made before. I respect that in him... Unlike Rudyard from whatifalthist

@BerserkerLuke

10 ай бұрын

​@sylviamontaez3889 Just stopping from watching his videos is definitely an extreme position. While I agree with specific points made in this video, I do not agree that he is being dishonest, and I think this channel is being too judgmental with the "leftist Prager U" statement. At worst he's meandering and unfocused on what his point is, and sometimes hyperbolic due to being a bit blind to his bias or not having the full picture. Another thing I would bring up is that if he's citing political science so much, maybe we should be viewing his content through that angle, not history. I would argue that a lot of his more recent content has been titled in that direction anyway. Essentially, he's not a historian, he's a political analyst.

Kraut bothered me for a long time. He constantly makes claims that can not be empirically verified or falsified and presents them as fact. And then there is the very concerning Video about allied bombing, where he indiscriminately declares allied bombings as justified because "there is no civilized way to wage war". There not being a civilized way to wage war doesn't mean that one way isn't more moral than another. Basically a justification for every warcrime as long as the war is just.

I find it weird how, near the end of the video, you talk about the the whole "the world is heading towards a liberal end goal" thing in a 'Kraut seems to believe this' tone, without mention Kraut's video arguing against that very topic (even to say that it's unrelated).

@OleksandrBarraniv321

10 ай бұрын

Kraut's got a lot of stuff, some of it unintentionally contradictory and flawed.

Directly subscribed after watching, this kind of carefully considered content is difficult to make but so important. Thanks and well done.

I like Kraut but you're raising some good points here. Thank you for making this video!

I admire your ability to respond to a video or make a critique while also teaching us new things. I always come out with something new after watching one of your videos.

I really don't agree with you ideologically, but I always appreciate a different perspective. Kraut's videos do seem to have strong ideological blinders that I can't help but get a bit annoyed by, considering how they're presented.

Dude you've made the right choice in using workers and resources soundtrack... it rocks hella hard!

I'm kind of happy I've seen this because I was taking everything Kraut said as Gospel

@varisleek3360

10 ай бұрын

Same 😅

@rafayahmedmirza8878

10 ай бұрын

May I aak you guys why?

@anti-spiral159

10 ай бұрын

@@rafayahmedmirza8878 He seemed like he knew what was he talking about, and the way he talks ( without seeing him debate or questioning his information) seems like he actually knows what he says, like a professor. Unlike some others who just repeat what they read, it seems like Kraut puts information in more of a conversation than a teaching way (still both are being used), which kinda turns off the questioning part of our brain. I hope profoundly he remakes these videos with actual sources, or just be open that he wants to talk about what he read and what he thinks, not just actual information.

@4rumani

10 ай бұрын

​@@anti-spiral159He won't do that because his videos are deliberately distorting reality for the purposes of propaganda

@stephenjenkins7971

10 ай бұрын

@@4rumani You say that as if this very video, and really, any video expressing an opinion isn't deliberately distorting reality for the purposes of propaganda. You're just mad its not propaganda you like lmao

I understood how bad Kraut was when he spoke about Greece (where I currently live), and realised he has no idea what he's talking about most of the time. He tried to pinpoint specific Greek behaviors to some past that never happened, ignored large portions of our history (an entire century to be more frank) etc. Dangerous given that I thought he actually read history and just wanted to make videos about it, you could tell he was politically motivated but not THIS bad.

As my grandmother always said, “ne fais jamais confiance aux les autrichiens ! “

@sournois90

4 күн бұрын

aux les?

Thought Kraut was further left than he was a few years back, when I was still kinda centrist. I've moved much more left since then. After the Turkey videos I've been loosing interest in Kraut mostly due to his glaring simplifications. Since then, he's further alienated me by being seemingly unable to avoid bashing the left in every video since then, doing the "social democracy, no further" bit. At least, that's how I feel. He wields social democracy like a club.

@Emery_Pallas

10 ай бұрын

I gave up on him when he started criticising the entirety of the left based on the fact video essayists on KZread don’t know about a modern Russian propaganda film in his conclusion to a video on modern Russian political theory. like No shit they’re not probably going to know this specific film you pulled out of your ass.

@mind_onion

10 ай бұрын

​@@square3356 Yeah, I came from what I consider a center left perspective, I think a lot of the far-left people here in America shot themselves in the foot in 2016 (I definitely heard a lot of "we don't need the moderates" and "Bernie or bust"), and it made the country a lot worse off over the Trump years that resulted. Watching Kraut's videos have definitely done more to move my own views much further leftward than pretty much any other personality on youtube (and I watch tons of, what I consider, far left content, and I've never considered Kraut one of those). I understand that the further left people are much much more positive on socialism in general than I was/am, but It was Kraut's analysis of the way that the oligarchy formed in Russia (within his "critique of realism" video) that convinced me that we should adopt extremely high taxes (as opposed to just high taxes) on the wealthy, not just as a means to support social services, but punitively in an effort to actually cap wealth and more forcefully put into place greater income equality as a defensive measure to protect democracy and our institutions.

@walker1tnranger

10 ай бұрын

@@mind_onionLol, it’s so funny that you think Bernie supporters are far left

@mind_onion

10 ай бұрын

@@walker1tnranger relatively, yeah, they are. I mean, like regardless of what lens you want to view the situation from their politics are sufficiently fringe to not be able to garner enough support for their candidate to succeed, and thus accomplish much

@SolarFlareAmerica

10 ай бұрын

@@square3356 Yes, but I am thoroughly DONE with measuring people by what "America thinks is left wing" Globally, he's not. America no longer gets separate categorization in my mind. I don't mean to bash you. But even by actual American standards he's not far left either. Best you can call him is "left of center/ center left". At least that's my observation (as somebody actually on the far left) after paying attention to his twitter and other such spaces for a time.

Come on Fredda, clearly scandinavia was less conflicted than other parts of Europe or even the world! Just ignore that time where Denmark went to war with Sweden over Norway, and then Sweden went to war with Denmark over Norway, and then Denmark went to war with Sweden over Norway, and then Sweden went to war with Denmark over Norway (repeat about 200 times).

What's annoyed me lately is that he hasn't been citing sources which is just bad to say the least. I mean even whatifalthist of all people is citing sources in his latest videos, not doing it academically.

I think it is pretty fascinating. When I watched Kraut first I was pretty uncritical and just absorbed what he said. But in this video with the preset that he might be wrong, even without you explaining why what he said is wrong, I can notice the flaws. I think it is pretty interesting how, even though I should know better, I can agree with someone only because I don't go there with "This person might be wrong".

@koolergandalf1179

10 ай бұрын

like Feda said Kraut wants you to agree and he does it very well

@ilfedarkfairy

10 ай бұрын

@@koolergandalf1179 Unlikely. The Video made a bad case on why it can't be accidental. In fact, I think the video made a case for why it is accidental and the conclusion was very forced and out of place. Hanlon’s Razor states that if it is equally possible that if something is malice or stupidity(or accident), assume the later. And I think that applies here.

@Dovahkiine

8 ай бұрын

> I think it is pretty interesting how, even though I should know better, I can agree with someone only because I don't go there with "This person might be wrong". I think this is interesting because I think it's a result of the way people are educated in modern society. There is an authoritative figure that states what is correct and what is not and then we are tested on whether we can tell what is correct or incorrect. It's only really at around university level that education includes forming ones own opinion after understanding competing arguments. When watching a youtube video where someone who presents themselves as knowing the correct and undisputable facts, essentially a teacher, makes an argument we don't even register it as an argument we register it as a fact because we have essentially been trained to see any statement from an authoritative figure that is similar to a teacher to be an undisputable fact.

His Balkan video made me wanna hurl, and his pillarisation takes? Yikes.

@antimaterijaYT

10 ай бұрын

Western liberals not fucking up a balkan video challenge (impossible)

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

10 ай бұрын

He made a video about the Balkans?

@parazitkolol

10 ай бұрын

@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Yeah it was about Yugoslavia. Don't remember the title.

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

10 ай бұрын

@@parazitkolol Ok!

So glad to see you’re releasing a video on this person. I used to watch Kraut years ago before I became a commie lol

@pedrosampaio7349

10 ай бұрын

Dude, saaaame. I guess when you're young, know nothing and are just hungry for political historical content anything will do, unfortunately.

@giuthais

10 ай бұрын

it really goes to show how good presentation can influence people, even if the information is inaccurate

@RedBird7

10 ай бұрын

Same

@monsieurdorgat6864

10 ай бұрын

Me too! Bes.T.Marx documentaries reall gave me a vastly new perspective with way more history to back it up.

@vaporcranberries

10 ай бұрын

Same here

I'm glad to see that criticisms of Kraut's work are gradually becoming more common. For instance, his video on Mexico left me with a bitter taste due to some extravagant interpretations of events, trying to equate them to other episodes worldwide that, in hindsight, had nothing to do with each other, effectively distorting the events. I interpret this as a way to fit them into his narrative and make them more "understandable" for the general audience, even if it doesn't align with the concepts he describes.

Thanks for making this. I love the effort and production value that goes into Kraut videos so I would binge them, but often found myself needing to put on my "Eurocentrism-filter glasses" while watching these vidoes, as some points would just boil down to "west Europe good, everyone else bad," and was curious how it was being received elsewhere.

It should be noted in addition to the Orientalist criticisms of the Mongol Empire being responsible for Russian authoritarianism, that the imperial Russians themselves viewed their politics not as a continuation of Mongol traditions, but of Byzantine ones. Moscow had close connections with Constantinople both before and after the Mongol occupation, "Tsar" was a title adopted from Eastern Roman "caesar," and Ivan the Terrible married a Byzantine princess, relating his dynasty to the imperial dynasty. Culturally as well, there's much more of a Byzantine strate than a Mongol one.

@cookingwithtool159

6 ай бұрын

well that's more how they saw themselves, you need to note that the Mongol remnant states were powerful in Russia and ruled over large swathes of the region for centuries, and how stuff like that impacted the way the Russian state building project advanced

Well done response/analysis. I've been watching bad history on YT for a very long time now and I've always watched stuff like WhatifAltHist for a laugh because it was always so plainly obvious to me why it was bad history. I was always a fan of Kraut, but over time, I came to recognize the political biases in his work because I share many of the biases he holds. (I'm a left-of-center American, btw) At first, I felt that his content was mostly unbiased, but I became aware of it after examining my own world view and finding the faults in my own reasoning. Faults I share with Kraut, some of which touched on in your video. I still enjoy his videos, but these days my enjoyment stems more from identifying generalizations/sweeping claims he makes, and then going down my own rabbit hole with research on the topic. I don't outright laugh as much as I do when watching WhatifAltHist, but I after my own research, albeit meager when compared to yours, I must say, this well-thought and measured response to his content was long overdue. Keep fighting the good fight for history, and while I can more easily imagine myself agreeing with Kraut in general political discussion than you, I know who to rely on when I am looking for history content on KZread.

I grew a passion for History trough youtube, and I'm now starting university to actually become something of an historian, or a teacher, in the worst case scenario. Seeing such videos shocks me in ways I was not expecting. It makes me thing if I'm actually cut to follow this path and if history is maybe just too difficult for me. But thinking on the base of your entire thesis, it actually seems that history is in theory way more easy when done properly. It's all about the sources and the info, and that's something that unfortunately the videos that made me passionate in the first place, Kraut's are part of those, has not insisted upon. It's refreshing to see someone who properly loves history.

i kinda enjoyed watching Kraut videos but after delving a bit deeper into actual history and your channel i realized that his works are more akin to political opinion pieces than history. Good job Fredda, you ripped a big hole into Kraut's content, hopefully he will address this criticism and start researching in a more appropiate manner.

"I can trick KZread into thinking I am from the greatest country on Earth, Miami," -Fredda, Closeted FloridaMan

What is it with these vibes historians and using books from over 70 years ago or more?

@OleksandrBarraniv321

10 ай бұрын

Political analysis is less transient than historical research, they're coming primarily from a political perspective rather than the other way around (like most of us who aren't explicitly historians).

Another amazing video from you freda, are you planning more alt history videos like the korea one?

Great point about explicitly citing sources. Many youtubers will just put a list of books and articles and call it a day. Often, the sources they provide either don't support the claims they make, or as you've pointed out, even directly contradict with what they're saying. It's infuriating and obviously done because most people won't even notice, they'll just see a list of sources and pat themselves on the back for "thinking critically" and watching good "content".

...How... How does anyone manage 'Marx can be discounted, we got here because of material conditions that shaped how our society works'? I've been stuck on that since the jump. It's the strangest jumping off point for arguing against Marx I have ever heard. Even if cold weather were to be the primary condition over class struggle (and the following claims were not silly)... It doesn't mean anything damning for Marxist analysis... There ARE arguments you could make, it's just, that isn't one.

@OleksandrBarraniv321

10 ай бұрын

Marxists give Marx a bad name.

None of the spines of any of the books from the start are creased. It is entirely likely he simply has not read any of these books

hardest part of writing is finding a thesis. Once i find that i farm sources on jstor, researchgate, google scholar, and my local library. The only issue after that is paywalls my university doesn't have access to.

@user-ym2ne1zg1b

10 ай бұрын

Do you even SciHub, bro?

Late to the party here, but very glad to find this - I was a fan of Kraut for many years, and I even volunteered my time as an artist to help with his videos. That process was its own strangely insular affair where dozens of artists were supposedly given the chance to contribute but in reality, a select few were consistently selected and no process by which to assist was ever clarified. When I asked about such clarification, I was banned from discussing anything else, and at the time I felt miffed but had no means by which to critique his work, being not myself a historian. How strange and karmic to find myself feeling lucky not to have the chance to contribute to his own opinion pieces. Thank you again for this measured and thorough assessment - subbed!

kraut is still a raging islamophobe on twitter lol

Kraut is one of my favorite KZreadrs, I always enjoyed his work and I think he has a lot of good things to say. That being said, as an Italian who has lived in Denmark for 7 years, I did find his takes on everyone's least favorite Scandinavian country a bit off. I remember having a bad feeling about it, but I didn't think much of it and went on with my day without absorbing much of the knowledge he spoon fed me. I often get comments of people in Italy who paint Scandinavia as some sort of heaven like place, It bothered me a lot at first but now it flies over my head. It's interesting to see an objective criticism of Kraut's work which is heavily politically without necessarily attacking him. Don't have much to say on the Russian video because I am not familiar with Russian history and I feel like I have said enough.

I watch a lot of Kraut's videos, but at the same time there have always been a few that I took one look at and decided to avoid, like the Denmark inventing social democracy one, which as a sweeping judgement feels a little silly. I haven't watched this yet, but I'm looking forward to doing so.