Leftoids: There will probably be Marxist texts I could have referenced, I am already pushing the limits of the description character count, the video is 37 minutes long, and I have severe doubts that Whatifalthist has read or formulated his arguments on the basis of the words of Lenin, Bordiga, Gonzalo, Mao or any others. I'm focusing on the bare essentials here. This is also not a Marxism theory video. I am saying this pre-emptively because as you and I both know leftoids (you and me) are the most annoying people on the planet.

@josemaria8177

11 ай бұрын

Lenin? Bordiga? Gonzalo? Mao? No Hoxha? No Marchais? Where's Bukharin and Plekhanov? So much revisionism! Deeply unserious analysis (just a joke If it wasn't clear)

@padstah3747

11 ай бұрын

Bordiga would have debunked whatifalthist just like you if he was alive today 💯

@okofreak01

11 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a guide on how to do this yourself without doing a degree if that's even possible haha

@Minezanians

11 ай бұрын

Literally no letters from Engels we need to CANCEL this guy

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

11 ай бұрын

No one hates leftists more than other leftists, somehow

His claim that women are not competitive only confirms that he's never had a girlfriend.

@kinhamid9665

11 ай бұрын

I heard the mic thud from across the world

@hazat8123

11 ай бұрын

Bro woke up and chose violence

@My-cat-is-staring-at-you

11 ай бұрын

Or had any significant female interaction aside from his mother.

@SOULAANI_

11 ай бұрын

@@My-cat-is-staring-at-younaw even mothers have a competitive side. This just showcases the amount of brain rot he has

@fufy3820

11 ай бұрын

his point is that women on average are less competitive than men, which is biologically true, due to hormone composition.

The fact that he called himself a "professional intellectual" always cracks me up.

@christian2i

9 ай бұрын

And then he implied he is also one of those leader personalities

@cantdebunkthetruth

9 ай бұрын

I used to watch his alt hist videos because they were interesting. Now his channel is him sucking himself off all the time. He's insufferable, and every video shows he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

@noobrat

9 ай бұрын

Professional Smart Boy

@k.i.l.l.7935

8 ай бұрын

dont be such a dick man.

@TamiSiren

8 ай бұрын

It is anyway quite what he is. Not meaning that he was right, but anyway.

“Communism if when you do left hand path magic.” - Karl “Alister Crowley” Marx

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

7 ай бұрын

So trve we need to retvrn to MASCVLINE PENIS WORSHIP

@russman3787

6 ай бұрын

No, it was John Lennon (the famous communist thinker) who said that, everyone knows that.

@EinFelsbrocken

6 ай бұрын

Im cracking up 😂

@the25thprime

5 ай бұрын

Schizoid connections to sound…….. poetic?

@the25thprime

5 ай бұрын

His I mean 😂😂😂😂 urs is funny ash

I literally laughed out loud when he made his leap from "LEFT hand magic" to "LEFTism" literal pothead take

@yumekyn6283

4 ай бұрын

HJAHAJ same, elementary school level of correlation

@ketaminepoptarts

3 ай бұрын

a real "works cited: crack pipe" moment

@thaDjMauz

3 ай бұрын

Dont do potheads dirty like that

@deeznoots6241

2 ай бұрын

Lmao what an idiot. The left-right political alignment comes from the French revolution and specifically which side of an assembly people congregated.

@anitheproto

22 күн бұрын

hey man thats mean to potheads! i smoke weed all the time and im not some right wing moron!!

Bro he actually admited in one of his videos that he dosen't re-read his sources because he has "photographic memory" and can remember everything from the top of his head. Like wtf.

@FreddaYT

11 ай бұрын

oh no

@justanotherjohn5905

11 ай бұрын

Which video was that?

@Drakonian-gz2nq

11 ай бұрын

@@justanotherjohn5905 I can't remember the title but it's old video, it's one of his regular videos, maybe one of his predictions? Sorry i really don't remember the title.

@Deschutron

11 ай бұрын

Imagine trying to write a citation list when you have a memory like that. It'd be so easy.

@Drakonian-gz2nq

11 ай бұрын

​@@justanotherjohn5905 I REMEMBERED IT I THINK IT'S ON ONE OF HIS PREDICTIONS VIDEO FROM 2020, LIKE THE VIDEO WAS POSTED IN 2020 AND IT WAS FOR 2030 OR SOMETHING

these social darwinism proponents always overlook the fact that cooperation is also an extremely effective survival strategy

@luizpaulosantosribeiro9005

11 ай бұрын

Yes, but usually not helping everyone. A very important point in darwinism is that your success rate matter in relation to others, your group may get get an edge over other groups by cooperating, but if being an asshole give you an edge over people in your group, the asshole is also being selected for. That's why you usually see cooperation limited in scope (kin group) or have safe guards against freeloaders that don't help the group.

@caseysev7111

11 ай бұрын

@@luizpaulosantosribeiro9005 , Oscar Wilde's The Soul Of Man Under Socialism might be up your alley. Whether you agree or disagree, the point of these exercises is to produce a dialogue. If not, then they are just fandoms versus fandoms, nerds vs nerds, the fitting fate of a politics not having any actual implications on the real world.

@ragalyiakos

11 ай бұрын

​@@luizpaulosantosribeiro9005While this is theoretically true, it doesn't hold up in practice. Animals that evolved cooperation also have means of getting rid of "assholes", usually very quickly so. And aggressive animal is going to accomplish nothing except anger everyone else to the point they chase him off, because that aggression might give him an edge over ONE of his species, but nothing would ever give you an edge over a pack of them. Also, there are examples of cooperation being not only NOT limited to just kin, but happening between entire species. The most famous example of this is coyotes and badgers hunting together.

@luizpaulosantosribeiro9005

11 ай бұрын

@@ragalyiakos that's exactly my point. You if you are setting up a system of cooperation, you need to put safe guards in place.

@intellectually_lazy

11 ай бұрын

@@luizpaulosantosribeiro9005 fair enough. both are effective strategies, and not mutually exclusive. that was my point. social darwinists tend to frame it only as a war of all against all forgetting there are many strategies

I love how it didn’t even take him that long to get to the “communism is the reason I can’t get laid”

@dafyddroff8084

5 ай бұрын

Followed by him talking about the 'tyranny of the dating market' Whatifalthist upholding Marxism-Leninism-Rodgersism

@Steven-ly9ei

5 ай бұрын

Confirmed, whatifalthist if officially a tate-ist 😂

@lesternomo6578

4 ай бұрын

i read this before i started the video and i could never have guessed it was so early 😭

@user-bo4uc3el5t

3 ай бұрын

"Communism is when no bitches to the capitalists." - Karl Marx.

@kaletovhangar

Ай бұрын

​@@user-bo4uc3el5t🤣

"Left hemisphere world view" just gave every psychology professor I've ever had a collective aneurysm, and we're not even through the intro portion.

@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320

4 ай бұрын

Too bad east isn't on the left side of the maps, it would've really completed his world view

@leowilliamson1573

3 ай бұрын

​@@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320Maybe if we split the world map down by the Urals and focused it on the Americas for no reason like a really weird version of the Axis and Allies map.

Ah yes, the esteemed socialist thinker, John Lennon.

@stephendaley266

11 ай бұрын

What? You've never heard of a Marxist-Lennonist? They follow the philosophical traditions of Groucho Marx and John Lennon

@dkoda840

11 ай бұрын

@@stephendaley266Exactly some people are so uncultured

@davidmason4244

11 ай бұрын

The bolsheviks are calling for their outdated ideology back.

@thetaomegatheta

11 ай бұрын

@@davidmason4244 An 'outdated' ideology that massively improved standards of living. Meanwhile, a very 'nice' and not-'outdated' system of capitalism has managed to kill more than a million people in Russia alone, and the adoption of which was accompanied with a severe drop in life expectancy during peace time, and under which people are denied housing on the basis of being poor. Shoo, nazi.

@bromomento1

11 ай бұрын

He was leftis :p

Critiquing Marx while not reading his works. What a classic.

@olindblo

11 ай бұрын

Just following in the footsteps of his heroes.

@fufy3820

11 ай бұрын

You don't need to read his works to see that the effects of his beliefs has been negative

@digaddog6099

11 ай бұрын

​@@fufy3820I'd wager that most of the issues that arise from communist regimes came from the points in which later writers disagreed with marx. I'm pretty sure the idea that we need a one party state before democracy came from Lenin, not Marx, and that's bound to cause a fair share of troubles.

@blastermaster5039

11 ай бұрын

​@@digaddog6099 Our specific communism is not yet done right, comrade! 😂

@fufy3820

11 ай бұрын

@@digaddog6099 Marx's ideology in itself is bad. Religion is not a tool to hold down the poor, it's a tool to uplift and provide social mobility to the poor. Kings and nobles are meant to provide for their people, not extract wealth from their people. They have a moral responsibility to uphold their prerogative backed by the absolute power of the church and the dissenting masses to punish them if they fail in their duty to their people. In other words, Marxism lies in a fundamental misunderstanding of feudal society and absolute monarchies. The very act of reducing the power of the church was what led to things like robber barons and absolute monarchies with no counterbalances whatsoever.

"Lots of pretty girls in Torah school" is the most batshit crazy thing I've ever read

@Rum-Runner

4 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ I lost my absolute shit when I read that

@mohamedmedhat2436

Ай бұрын

Ben Shapiro's sister, need I say more

@RickJaeger

Ай бұрын

No, but you need to say less, actually.

@davidegaruti2582

29 күн бұрын

honestly the crazy aspect is how deliberate that was : it wasn't an half sentence blurted out during an inebriated stream , he legit edited the video and tought : hey you know what's missing ? a full page rant about my thinly veiled fetish , i'll make it an image filled with text and put it here ... wich is like ... bruh , he really thought it was ok ?

Holy fuck this dude is a living, breathing Dunning-Kruger effect. Just straight up believes whatever falls out of his skull is gold.

@alexanderhouston7561

7 ай бұрын

Omg you read my mind. It's simultaneously super funny and incredibly frustrating that this idiot has an audience

@thepimptastic2

7 ай бұрын

Dunning-Kruger says you? Rofl...

@deathdealer312

6 ай бұрын

@@thepimptastic2 just because he spouts bs that you agree with since you're just as dumb as he his doesnt make him a good historian.

@user-jw7cq6gu6o

6 ай бұрын

Whatifalthist has been accused by the left of being from the extreme right, being irrational, being religiously biased or of suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect, usually with no evidence of any kind. If you think you have a case against his opinions, then at least briefly state your case. The problem with those on the left, probably most of the people who will read this comment, is you are prone to being intellectually lazy, so simply make an ad hominem attack instead of addressing the issues. Such attacks will never change the opinion of those that think Whatifalthist is correct, they are made for other leftists to read and give a thumbs up. Ad hominem attacks are simply a form of virtue signaling.

@jameswilkerson4412

6 ай бұрын

This particular page, or who he’s critiquing?

He isn't a "failed" historian, since he never was a historian in the first place.

@insertnamehere1258

11 ай бұрын

Attempted historian at best

@ehtresih9540

11 ай бұрын

History channel historian at best, and even then thats reaching

@2masterofpuppets2

11 ай бұрын

He's VERY young lol

@gahelo

11 ай бұрын

​@@2masterofpuppets2and yet he reject most recent works

@takeonedaily

11 ай бұрын

@@insertnamehere1258 Hypothetical Historian

Did...did....did he tried to own the communism thru some hate on left handed people?

@myri_the_weirdo

11 ай бұрын

Left handed rise up

@Reaverisgrovy

11 ай бұрын

I heard him say left hand magic, which is a way to categorize methods of like folk/ritual magic. Last Podcast did a good episode explaining this

@gahelo

11 ай бұрын

​@@Reaverisgrovyso a esoteric idiot thing?

@mrtrollnator123

11 ай бұрын

​@@Reaverisgrovy"left hand magic" when I heard him say that I passed out 💀💀💀💀💀

@mogscugg2639

11 ай бұрын

You know.he wants to talk about a certain ethnoreligion from the Levant so bad

Did he really say "communists never talk about how capital is produced"? What does he think communism even is?

@leowilliamson1573

3 ай бұрын

Surprisingly little of right-wing thought even addresses the basic criticisms Marxism has towards capitalism and create something out of thin air to argue with instead. You'd think if you were crafting propaganda, you would at least want to convey the basic counterpoints down so that when someone listens to a shallow attempt to exposit it, their beliefs will just be reinforced instead of immediately dismantled by observing the obviousness of the lies, but apparently not.

@robopope7584

2 ай бұрын

This is so funny. Communists, famously known for NOT critiquing the means by which capital is extracted as one of their core rejections of capitalism.

@dango6266

2 ай бұрын

Left handed magic religious crusaders apparently

@SpoopySquid

Ай бұрын

One of the foundational texts of orthodox Marxism is three volumes of exactly that lmao

@valian8985

13 күн бұрын

bullshit ?

>"I started writing this video to understand communism" > doesn't read Marx oh boy

@Leftistmushroom

4 ай бұрын

That's like the easy shit as well lol

@mossboss5695

4 ай бұрын

@@Leftistmushroom right? Like it's even on audiobook, for free from several places (like Librivox). I think the dude is genuinely afraid to have his basic af worldview challenged by a book.

@Rokaize

Ай бұрын

@@mossboss5695especially by such a silly book that is frankly outdated.

@tefky7964

3 күн бұрын

@@Rokaize Which you can´t judge unless you read it...

@Rokaize

3 күн бұрын

@@tefky7964 I’ve read plenty of Marx. His communist manifesto. And all of Das Kapital in college. The best way to dismiss communism or Marxism in general is to simply be knowledgeable on it. Most communists online, and every single one I’ve met in real life, are totally in it for the aesthetic. They care nothing about the actual deeper material or trying to get it to work in real life. It’s all just something they think looks cool and edgy and will abandon after a few years when they are forced to confront the real world and get a job, have a family, buy a house, car etc etc. It’s a totally unworkable system and there’s some great reasons why it has failed so catastrophically in the past and there will never be a state that adopts it. It’s old news. You might as well be advocating for feudalism. That’s how outdated it is and how little the average person cares.

Franz Kafka and Karl Marx: society is not good, it should be reformed Whatifalthist: Wow Secular Jews bad

@thorpeaaron1110

11 ай бұрын

That's not what they wanted

@Cortov

11 ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110 Depends on what you mean by reformed

@thelocalcrusader9522

11 ай бұрын

If there's one thing I know about Marx it's that he is entirely anti religion

@thorpeaaron1110

11 ай бұрын

​@@CortovMarx was a loser

@manicallydepressedclown8064

11 ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110thanks dude with the pinochet pfp lmao

I like how Whatifalthist's video descends into madness about left hand magic and left hemisphere thought.

@FreddaYT

11 ай бұрын

To be fair to him that was one of the better parts of the video because it was actually funny. I don't know how to articulate it well, but I think the parts of the video where he's saying absolutely insane stuff are the best ones.

@the_roman_emperor_fisheater

8 ай бұрын

​@@FreddaYTyeah I used to be a hard down communist until I realised just how fucked up most other communists are and the stupid ate even the most slight left things can get so I searched for a left thing that no one has ever heard of that I agree with it was nice watching this video that showed that communism wasn't just a dictatorship not was it utopia

@fartsfartington9019

8 ай бұрын

"Fuckin magnets, how do they work?!" -Whatifalthist

@Malachite7

7 ай бұрын

@@the_roman_emperor_fisheater are you replying to something specific here? Or are you just appreciating the video's reasonable stances? I'm not sure what communists youve met that you think are fucked up (im assuming tankies) but I think there are plenty that you'd find as reasonable Fredda. Communism is a wide umbrella term- good luck on your search.

@Mr.Monacle

6 ай бұрын

Best part, he was fully wrong about left hand magic lol. It's basically just the power of positive thinking, you draw power from within yourself, not other people. Just buck wild that he fucked that up.

Can you be a failed historian if you never even tried in the first place?

@ostrichhe4d

6 ай бұрын

Do you really consider his videos to an example of trying.

@jlc5639

4 ай бұрын

@@ostrichhe4d I'm pretty sure OP was implying that whatifaltist hadn't tried

@tancreddehauteville764

4 ай бұрын

True, but you can be an idiot all the same.

@guidotron82

4 ай бұрын

Tbf not trying is just a speed run of failure.

"Women aren't competitive" - Whatifalthist My boy... my boy... you've never been anywhere near a woman in your life have you?

@lesternomo6578

4 ай бұрын

"women are inherently submissive... just not to me" avg incel conservative

@aralornwolf3140

4 ай бұрын

It's not his fault that he mistakes the lack of competition for his affection by women as them not having the capacity to compete!

@thaDjMauz

3 ай бұрын

Always just looking yearningly through the impenetrable windows of Torah schook

@bertrecht913

2 ай бұрын

Woman are overall not so competitive like Men. That's in fact.

@colonel__klink7548

2 ай бұрын

@@bertrecht913 You ever notice how plain and uniform men's clothes are? They also are more cheaply made. Women's clothing options by comparison are a rainbow array and extremely expensive. Now the idiot's first interpretation of this is that it's what girls do to attract men, but the reality is as we have seen men will be attracted to women when they only expose their eyes. No all that fashion is women competing with women. One of the biggest markets in the world is women competing with other women. Not for money, not for power but social position.

"women arent competitive" my sister punched me in the face so she could win Wii Sports. Has he ever met a woman? Does he know they're real?

@jameslegrand848

11 ай бұрын

Women were created by the diamond rings industry you sheep. WAKE UP !!!!!

@user-fd8fe9hk9q

11 ай бұрын

Right wing people generally associate with feminine woman in a leftists wouldn't understand so it makes sense he would think women are not competitive

@elliotts5574

11 ай бұрын

@@user-fd8fe9hk9qyou are barely literate

@thelovewizard8954

11 ай бұрын

@@elliotts5574 I'll have whatever he's smoking.

@user-fd8fe9hk9q

11 ай бұрын

@@elliotts5574 I missed word cmon guys give break here

Whatifalthist: Latest victim of Communism

@pissfather6798

11 ай бұрын

whatifalthist and his brain have been the latest victim of the crackpipe

@Moved506

11 ай бұрын

For as much as the right complains about liberal snowflakes, they seem to try and make themselves victims most of the time.

@thesecondsilvereich7828

11 ай бұрын

Communism is like food sometimes you don't get it

@Pabloto-dq3sx

11 ай бұрын

@@thesecondsilvereich7828...wait, what? *dies of starvation *

@kazaddum2448

11 ай бұрын

@@thesecondsilvereich7828 Tell that to the Irish and Indians who were starved to death under capitalism =)

My head just about near exploded when WIAH said that workers “rioted against the 8 hour day”. Like, has this guy never heard of the Haymarket Affair? It’s a pretty famous event in history and it’s where workers rioted FOR an 8 hour day. I learned about that in 7th grade! I spent four years getting a history degree and focusing my studies on labor history, but even someone with a passing knowledge of history knows that the 8 hour day was a big fight by workers. It’s like the single most famous accomplishment of the labor movement!

@seanhartnett79

7 ай бұрын

Yep.

@ramblingsofadash5159

7 ай бұрын

NO. This is no where near common knowledge. It is not taught in most schools. My High School education on the late 1800s and early 1900s was that it was the greatest time in American History and that the MAGA movement is/should be advocating to go back to those times or the 1950s. It is not where near common knowledge let alone a "passing knowledge" of history. I only know this because I was a socialist during my high school years and loved history. I was taught nothing of the Labor movement except that they were the enemy and the problem of society. This was in 2015 and 2017 in Northeast Mississippi. BTW it took till college for someone to flat out say "Black people are better off Free".

@yourmomgay874

6 ай бұрын

@@ramblingsofadash5159 wtfff i live in texas and we were taught abt the labour movement

@gavinmoody5678

6 ай бұрын

@@ramblingsofadash5159 wow that's really terrible man. I graduated from an east Tennessee high-school in 08 and we learned about the labor movement but when it came to the civil war half my history teachers said "states rights" and other half slavery.

@ramblingsofadash5159

6 ай бұрын

Can say as a person who went to both Tennessee and Mississippi school that Tennessee is far better yet far below what they need to be. A big problem during my high school times was Alt-Right and Q Anon was taking off so we had em in class and the teacher would let them preach since the teachers knew they would get in trouble for saying it. I got in trouble for getting mad and saying shooting people in the back was wrong while a guy who literally said "Hitler wasn't all bad" when being told gays also died in the gas chambers. I'm so glad I skipped the last 1/3 of my high school classes since I have had to unlearn so much of what I learned in that school.@@gavinmoody5678

I LOVE that you brought up Einstein's take on socialism. Right-wing commentators always forget that

@ignatiusjackson235

4 ай бұрын

My brother cousin Jim Bob sez that Eynstine feller was a big dummy.

you, a peasant: "capitalism alienates you from the fruits of your labour" me, an intellectual: "capitalism alienates you from pussy"

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

Well, if capitalism alienates you from others, you don't need to be an intellectual to figure it out

@Bolle1701

11 ай бұрын

"Me, an intellectual" said no person ever who is certain of his/her knowledge and wisdom.

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

@@Bolle1701 yep, that's why it's a meme

@xibalbalon8668

11 ай бұрын

Alienated from the means of reproduction

@northseapirate2313

10 ай бұрын

Das Booty-kal

Ill give whatifalthist one thing. His videos get my brain working. Every crazy or weird thing he says activates a critical mechanism. Not many right wing content makers can do that.

@jrny8922

10 ай бұрын

From what I can tell he's in the mild of the political line being a centrist.

@coopergates9680

10 ай бұрын

Had a taste of Actual Justice Warrior or News for Reasonable People? What's crazy is that lately I found a Candace Owens video where I agreed with her a lot.

@christian2i

9 ай бұрын

​@@coopergates9680which

@vovac8915

9 ай бұрын

Not many? Said the one who, as a left-winger out of reflex can only answer with bs about racism, "sexism" and oppression.

@ChaffyExpert

9 ай бұрын

@@jrny8922 everyone right of Stalin is right wing to these people.

As a college fresh graduate, the inclusion of sources' publishing year makes a huge difference between being an intellectual or a wannabe.

@rordongamsay6368

9 ай бұрын

Whatifalthist specifically doesnt use any writings published after ~1950 as source material, since according to him thats when academia got too "woke"

@coinbowl

7 ай бұрын

note taken: check for source date

@neverstopschweiking

5 ай бұрын

Well, clearly your "education" didn't help you understand the difference between a scientific work and a youtube opinion video. As someone who was born in a fully socialist (100% marxist socialist with no private and only collective means of production) country I look at this comment section and feel like... I guess a jew must feel like this when entering a neonazi rally and watching a lively holocaust denial debate between drunk losers. You western kids are absolutely lost when it comes to knowledge about communist regimes, socialism or the practical applications of the hateful nonsense marx wrote. No knowledge besides what can be found in propaganda posters. Although I must admit, you are all just like marx - born into filthy rich family*, never worked a day in his entire life, lived on charity from others and complaining about the world. *yes, your American "middle class" or "poor" is still filthy rich in vast majority of the world.

@user-qm2kt8fx3j

5 ай бұрын

​@@rordongamsay6368thomas sowell is recent? bad source but recent

@SonoftheWest316

4 ай бұрын

They don't like to acknowledge Dr. Sowell because then they would have to engage with his uncomfortable facts and evidence.@@user-qm2kt8fx3j

Im not a socialist or capitalist but the fact that this dude did not read the main book of the ideology he is critiquing makes a good point for why i probably wont return to his channel

@rafaellynx5332

Ай бұрын

You agrarian?

@Spido68_the_spectator

Ай бұрын

​@@rafaellynx5332He is probably a corporatist or distributist

"If we just distributed wealth to the masses, people wouldn't turn to Communism." - Whatifalthist 32:31

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

Well, this is technically a way to kill communist movements, kinda like in old prussia.

@vanguard1346

11 ай бұрын

im literally in tears 🤣, im happy im not the only one, its even worse for me because I am a communist

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

@@vanguard1346 well, comrade, you won't ask for communism if it's already there, right? So this makes some sense if you think of it a little

@vanguard1346

11 ай бұрын

@@minestar2247 I would agree if said Whatifalthist actually knew what communism was lmfao.

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

@@vanguard1346 true

I wonder what he would say if he did "Understanding Anarcho-communism." Probably would use Legend of Korra as a source.

@antigonos3012

11 ай бұрын

He would never watch Legend of Korra.

@something1600

11 ай бұрын

@@antigonos3012 Yeah, probably would make an incel rant about it before getting to book 3.

@tst2363

11 ай бұрын

"You will be equalized"

@something1600

11 ай бұрын

@@tst2363 "The natural order is disorder."- Zaheer.

@Natpad_027

11 ай бұрын

"You see anarcho communism is flawed because they want to kill the avatar and something something women belong in the kitchen"

the last bit was really really illustrative of how contemptous and/or bootlicking anti-anti-capitalists are

Him trying to connect Left Hand path magic to Leftism is the funniest fucking thing I've heard in a while, funnier then when he quoted Mao imo

@KickinRadTopHat

5 ай бұрын

Literally the same type of reactionary dumb guy brain that leads to “the Nazis were socialist, it’s right here in the name!”

I love when right wingers complain about socialism and then describe their libertarian future that sounds exactly like a hippy commune but with more Jesus

@isaiahjgomez1501

11 ай бұрын

As a conservative libertarian I find this hilarious

@pavelthefabulous5675

11 ай бұрын

On one hand I agree that Whatifapeshit makes low quality content, but I have to point out that under most capitalist systems, you are free to form your own communes, kibbutzes, hippie cult compounds, etc. The main objection a conservative has to socialism is that in a commune, you can freely associate with and shun people as you choose. However, under a socialist government, you are stuck with lazy cattle who don't contribute to the system, and only the government can really take action against that. In theory you can have a sort of Leninist system where unemployment is illegal, but in practice I have zero faith in First World Western society to actually go along with that and lay down the law.

@bigmac1516

11 ай бұрын

@@pavelthefabulous5675 Your argument makes intuitive sense, but all the data and studies done on welfare and UBI show that even when people don't have to work, they choose to. For what reason we don't really know but it's a combination of social pressure, a desire to be useful (probably an evolutionary thing), and a desire to simply do ANYTHING to alleviate boredom and have a social life. Now we don't know if this would work on a larger scale or over an extended time period, but that's why we need it implemented in a few places so we can study it.

@Supiragon1998

11 ай бұрын

​@@bigmac1516Wrong, the Covid stimulus checks were basically an unifficial temporary implementation of UBI, and unemployment was really high, barely anyone worked.

@AkuraTheAwesome

11 ай бұрын

​@@Supiragon1998unemployment went up largely because people were being let go, it will happen when stuff like Covid happens because in the US you can usually fire people at will. You can't look at something as complicated as unemployment and tie it to the stimulus check as if it's direct cause and effect. Correlation doesn't necessitate causation.

Wait, did he conflate political leftism, the left-hand-path of magic, and left-brained thinking right out the gate? That's just loony. Immediately worth dismissing.

@Corium1

11 ай бұрын

if althist comes out as a flat earther, I'm not gonna be surprised

@Varkhal218

11 ай бұрын

​@@marshallreeves6855tries and fails

@caseysev7111

11 ай бұрын

@@marshallreeves6855 , massive L

@xibalbalon8668

11 ай бұрын

He treats history as some kind of metaphysical magic, he's like a parody of dozens of conservative thinkers

@error5202

11 ай бұрын

@@xibalbalon8668 he is basically copying Jordan b Peterson. Perceiving archetypes and pattens in history or myths and implicitly claiming that they are metaphysically true and inescapably the correct way the world should function. Also implicitly, he derives an impossible ‘ought’ from an ‘is’ by claiming we should in a live by the ‘natural’ way.

Man, I'm not familiar with Whatifalthist or even with communist ideology particularly, but there's something really funny to me about someone dismissing it on the premise that it's feminine and men are competitive whilst simultaneously continuously whingeing about not being able to get a girlfriend. I'm sorry, do you have some idea that systemic issues should be addressed, that world should be built in a way that works for people? Or just for you, specifically? You're getting outcompeted, get wrecked, L.

@karaqakkzl

5 күн бұрын

it should be men were biologically more competitive than women, even at becoming a women aka transgender. But women are more fiercely competitive and there are many ways to do it, like woman fart are more smelly than men or women are more talkative than men

whatifalthist is the type of guy to unironically say “let me play devil’s advocate”

@Jotari

5 ай бұрын

What's wrong with playing devil's advocate?

@temkin9298

4 ай бұрын

​@@JotariDevil aka the origin of evil can't be defended because it created sin. Ironicly one can argue that god made sin because as a absolute being, it made the decision to make the situation happen. And many other arguments. Unironic defending of devil is dumb because the icon of sin IS the devil. It's like forgiving a murderer because the instigator that set up the situation made the sin of commiting murder be placed upon the instigator and murderer in question should be go unpunished.

@Jotari

4 ай бұрын

@@temkin9298 Uh...sure...but...that's not what Devil's Advocate means.

@temkin9298

4 ай бұрын

@@Jotari I got it wrong. It is to question the established arguemrnts to test its validity against its opposion. My bad.

@Cha4k

3 ай бұрын

@@temkin9298 Admitting you made a mistake is respectable. I approve

DID HE JUST SAY HE WANTS TO RETURN TO FEUDALISM???? Jesus Christ!

@SwedishDrunkard5963

11 ай бұрын

YAY, NO RIGHTS LOVE THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

@something1600

11 ай бұрын

Yaaaaaayyyyyyyy!

@mrtrollnator123

11 ай бұрын

WTF????

@nerag7459

11 ай бұрын

Divine right of kings baby!

@olenickel6013

11 ай бұрын

Where everyone had his own small plot of land. Except of course those who didn't, but they don't count!

I'd argue that there might be a disproportionate amount of jewish communists, but not because of any sort of "uniquely jewish mindset" or whatever. It's the same reason there's a lot of queer communists: If you're part of a group that's especially disadvantaged by society, you're obviously going to seek out political ideologies that seek to fundamentally change that society.

@burninsherman1037

11 ай бұрын

Exactly! When you're being demonized, and beaten down by a political and economic system, it's far easier to see its flaws. I'm a communist because I don't want anyone who comes after me to go through the shit I have, and sure as shit don't want them to have to suffer through the shit generations past had to deal with.

@unexpected2475

11 ай бұрын

Or queer leftists in general, I suppose to add to your last point. If one group is generally hostile to you, you're probably going to move to the opposite end of the spectrum to try and challenge them.

@drpastormartinssempa8994

10 ай бұрын

Used to believe that but after examining abrahmic scriptures you can see some inspiration.

@Victurio

10 ай бұрын

I think that is indeed an element, but at the risk of a gross generalization, the jewish (religious) education has a higher (in comparison to other religious schools or even the secular public schools) focused on debating and some parts of the talmud are basically a compilation of logic discussions akin to plato's works, so I would guess it is both this exclusion that leads to a desire to be un-opressed and a "culture of debate" that leads to at least a more skeptical outlook on what is given as facts by the conservative status quo. That is why I think some of the most important jewish intellectuals came from Rabbi families, and - I'm making some pure speculation here- if they retained a fraction of this intellectual engagement in the education of their children it is most natural to have free thinking people (not essentially left-wing, of course)

@fidus868

10 ай бұрын

Disadvantage of jews in society is a myth. They are and were mostly in well paid and influential jobs.

My dude is written like Fallout 3 character. "Communism bad, US good"

22:42 as a secular Jew who has Holocaust survivors on my mom's side of the family and communist labor organizers (who fled the pogroms) on my dad's side, i think I'm in a unique position to talk about WIAH's weird antisemitic talking points. As with all antisemitic conspiracy theories, there is a grain of truth that gets warped and twisted into a cudgel. While the whole secular bolshevism (and subsequent cultural Marxism) trope is absolutely an antisemitic dog whistle, there are reasons why communism was attractive to some Jews like my grandfather and great grandfather. Most importantly is the concept of "Tikkun olam", which translates to "fixing the world." In the Jewish tradition I was raised in (as the saying goes, two jews, three opinions and Orthodox Jews view tikkun olam differently), Tikkun Olam is synonymous with social justice, and mitigating inequities when possible (Israel is a whole other ball of wax that I'd rather eat glass shards than discuss. See above two Jews three opinions). Speaking truth to power is another important Jewish value. In the United States at least, communists were labor organizers and advocates for workers rights, which falls neatly in line with tikkun olam **and** speaking truth to power.

@MaksFaks-kl1zj

6 күн бұрын

That all sounds great and neat my dear friend. Great shame Israeli and US government seem to say otherwise.

1:26 I like that he says "left wing politics, left hand magic and left hemisphere" when the left hand is controlled by the right hemisphere LOL, he not only fails at history but also at biology. Not surprising tbh.

@iotaayushshrivastava114

11 ай бұрын

Even prager U kind of talks around these points, the left is to be left and why the right is right. I mean when kids are watching these videos sure lolipop candies names and 👶🏻concepts

@saltyc

11 ай бұрын

This didn't go unnoticed by me either. 😂

@olenickel6013

11 ай бұрын

my communist neurologist ass shortcircuited at this

@jeremyneville6530

11 ай бұрын

That’s not what left hand magic(k) refers to.

@kobinho1917

11 ай бұрын

He’s right brained lol

The funniest part to me in all his videos is when on every map he makes he just calls large portions of the world "savages" for no reason

@anyoneatall3488

11 ай бұрын

I guess he thinks EU4 is a historical source

@Samuelwastaken

11 ай бұрын

You're right now that I think of it lmao

@neoqwerty

10 ай бұрын

@@anyoneatall3488 My native French ass had a small brainfart reading "EU" because that's our version of "USA", I was wondering where "United States 4th Edition" was from for a solid 3 minutes before remembering I'm reading english.

@thegreatestoctopus9739

10 ай бұрын

How else do you represent the country of Serbia?

@ChaffyExpert

10 ай бұрын

​@@anyoneatall3488I think your projecting, the only people mentioning paradox games are leftists. Same leftists that say paradox communities are overrun with right wingers and fascists despite rarely if ever seeing a single one in communities that consist of communist circle jerks.

I'm probably not the typical audience for such channels, being a fairly conservative minded, Thomas Sowell idolizing, Born again Christian, but I did enjoy the attempt in rigorous adherence to sources and history. Not having a background in academia myself but only a deep thirst for accuracy and the truth, it's quite amusing to see these YT "intellectuals" having their asses handed to them. I pray that you will be well.

@PlatinumAltaria

9 ай бұрын

Even if you're a conservative I don't know why you'd idolise Sowell, the man's an idiot even by the standards of the right. He genuinely doesn't understand any of the concepts he discusses, even from his own ideology.

It's very important for the right to demonise Marx, because if conservatives read Marx they will probably find a lot they like about his writing.

@AbyssalSoda

3 ай бұрын

I have read Marx's work, I think a decent chunks of his critiques are valid but still wholly disagree with his conclusions and beliefs. I consider him to be a teetering idealist; someone who can identify problems and promote solutions that are inadequate, philosophical or outright dangerous in its distribution.

@JamLeGull

3 ай бұрын

@@AbyssalSoda I think this is a worthy criticism, though I am not sure I totally agree. I think the Communist Manifesto is a great work of polemics, but it was not intended to be as prescriptive as it has been understood since its publication.

@Cha4k

3 ай бұрын

Well if the left reads Hitler they'll find a lot to like too. Agreeing with a few points on something doesn't mean the wider ideology is any good. And that's not a zinger I'm actually referring to the Nazis 25 point plan, When I read them to left wing friends and replace "German" with "Palestine" they agree with almost everything. And yet the Nazis are shit, Just like Communists.

@RickJaeger

Ай бұрын

I would say the only thing that I actually appreciate is the ethical stuff that arises from the "alienation" from the products of work and thereby from meaning of work. I don't think it's specific to Marx & Engels, but whether or not someone else said it, they said it too, and it's right. There's no natural bottom to how specialized and hollow and frivolous and grueling and boring and obnoxious and meaningless the people in charge will make your jobs, as long as it makes their favorite numbers go up.

My man WIAH criticising communism for being apocalyptic and a religion, while Christ himself was a religious person with apocalyptic views.

@iamwonka

11 ай бұрын

It’s the end times, remember? Lol

@kaydgaming

11 ай бұрын

Christ would have also been called a leftist for his economic views

@ckreal9423

11 ай бұрын

@@kaydgaming what economic views lmaoooo, instructing individuals to be good and help the poor and those in need doesnt make you a leftist, nor puts you in a political category, he never advocated for any economic system or view in specific either, his message was to individuals, not governments

@samuelelawson

11 ай бұрын

When those policies of helping the poor and less fortunate are codified in law, they are considered "left wing". Right wing politics, at least in the US, are very opposed to spending money on things like welfare and social services. So I think a pretty solid argument could be made that if Jesus was alive today and was asked about which political positions he supported, he would favor policies that "right wing" politicians oppose.

@gnas1897

11 ай бұрын

​@@ckreal9423 "A man cannot be a slave to two masters" or something in the words of that talking about money and god.

I love how althist thinks that pre-industrial "traditional" societies were less alienating because he simply likes the romanticized pastoralist vibe, like tons of reactionaries do. I'm sure getting to die in horrific wars over the inheritance of inbred despots, all the horrible disease and being property for the nobility was just peachy. He also appears to have a thing for emperor worship. In contrast to Marx, he points to Marcus Aurelius as a positive example. Mostly because "philosophers monarch = good", nevermind all the slavery or the instability that followed his death.

@VAWM.

11 ай бұрын

Or the plagues, civil wars and Germanic wars happened under his reign!

@andreamarino6010

11 ай бұрын

And ofc for him "christianity gud", while not being a christian, classic larper. Marcus Aurelius slaughtered christians

@thecuddlyaddict

11 ай бұрын

I also simp for many a Roman emperor, but would hate to have them around today. It is important to be able to appreciate the achievements of our ancestors in historical context, whilst also being able to critically analyze their faults through a modern lens and learn from their errors

@cegesh1459

11 ай бұрын

Alt hist is a simpelton, influenced by U.S. brainrotting media.

@KevinJohnson-cv2no

11 ай бұрын

Commies will always be broke & powerless. Stay mad while I count this check

I can’t wait for Whatifalthist’s review of The Odyssey, which he wrote without ever reading any of Homer’s poems.

He just dropped a banger of a dumpster fire video on the modern feminism movement. He explains how women having agency is the reason he can't get "pussy," not aware its the screeching of bigorty and racism on the regular.

@seanhartnett79

7 ай бұрын

I feel like if he stopped being a bigot and a racist. Or became an unironic Marxist he would get bitches.

@tomasvrabec1845

6 ай бұрын

It isn't. He made a video describing the general trends where the socio cultural characteristics of individuals lead to a certain socialetal result as a whole. Nothing right wing about that one. He didn't even mention women should or should not have more liberty or education. It's a very well proven and imoericallly recorded fact that women who do have more self agency, higher education ext ext do tend to be less pleased with their choices of partners because biologically (meaning from biology on average) a woman seeks to have a partner more successful than her. Given the modern equality situation that would make a drastically less appealing choices for settlement and reproduction across the board. But. Yes they do use some word language here and there but the idea and concept behind it is well reasoned.

@ThatGuy-bh9qh

6 ай бұрын

​@@tomasvrabec1845lol

@MCArt25

6 ай бұрын

I mean he's not wrong. I doubt any woman would choose to live with this guy.

@jimcat68

6 ай бұрын

@@tomasvrabec1845 "socialetal"? "imoericallly"? What language is that translated from ?

This guy (Whatifalthist) was in dire need of somebody that would regularly debunk his outlandish claims. So Thank you.

@getahorsetostickittoputin

11 ай бұрын

He needs to spend less time on /pol and chill and enjoy life a little

@p00bix

11 ай бұрын

It's also a huge bonus that the guy doing the debunking is an honest to God degree-carrying field-experienced Historian who discusses History as an evolving field of science. FreddaYT is someone who can keep people from falling for pseudo-history and the people who espouse it WHILE AT THE SAME TIME giving them tools to develop as History Students themselves. "History Buffs" are simultaneously the people most likely to become Historians or History Teachers later in life, as well as the people most vulnerable to falling for pseudointellectual morons like Whatifalthist or Monsieur Z. And this actual historian is out here explaining the importance of proper citation, that History is a field of study not just a list of events, that our current understanding of history is under constant reevaluation, and that old history books--just like any other old nonfiction--are bound to be full of inaccuracies and miss more recently learned information, no matter how smart or influential the author. FreddaYT isn't one of the countless breadtubers that just points and laughs at far-right pseudointellectuals' terrible takes on (History, Politics, Philosophy, Literally Any other Social Science) while themselves not having an especially better understanding than the people they're dunking on. These takedowns of Whatifalthist aren't just an exercise in roasting low-hanging fruit so that the audience can feel smarter. They give viewers vital tools to *actually become* smarter.

@andrewsmith8715

11 ай бұрын

Whatifalthist is that homeschooled kid who has never had anyone challenge him intellectually.

@pampitam

11 ай бұрын

Whatifalthist claimed that getting an education is useless and that he would only read book written before the 60's because newer ones would be too woke

@blackknightjack3850

11 ай бұрын

The problem is he has people who challenge his claims constantly. A lot of them. His ego is just so bloated that it still won't pop.

It's honestly hilarious about how WIAH's preachy conclusion about why people need religion in their lives plays nearly PERFECTLY into Marx's whole "opium of the masses" idea. Maybe if he didn't treat any communist works like some kind of forbidden texts, he could've tried to make a point about how Marx was wrong...

@007kingifrit

11 ай бұрын

that might be the only thing marx was right about. but then again marx framed it like a bad thing, people do need religion.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

6 ай бұрын

@@007kingifrit because it is religion as a opium for the ills of reality is as destructive as turning to alcohol in the end

@popopop984

6 ай бұрын

@@007kingifritI don’t have religion and I’m pretty fine. I’m anti God if he exists anyway. Dude committed mass genocide on multiple occasions

@007kingifrit

6 ай бұрын

@@popopop984 you're probably mentally ill, not going to have kids, and not going to impact the world like most on this comment section, so while you claim to not need god the truth is your life is sad without him

@wherezthebeef

5 ай бұрын

and yet, there's Marxist theory vs. reality. Reality is on WIAH's side, he's not right about everything but just look at what Communism has produced as opposed to the ideology and what's it's professed to be, reality vs. fantasy.

Got a fun giggle where Whathectrlphrenologist was spitballing the towards the notion that left handed people might be heretics

his video felt like a college essay written by a kid who didn't do the reading and just guessed what it said after watching a PragerU video on it

@lanemars

19 күн бұрын

You didn't watch his video actually his video is 15 minutes longer and his clips haven't been picked to make you think he's a loser

We can’t let him uncover the sacred texts of Grand Magus Lenin.

@karlmartin9022

11 ай бұрын

He wouldn't read them anyway.

@STaRBG4405

11 ай бұрын

@@karlmartin9022 Ofcourse he wouldnt..... Its complete garbage

@richardvlasek2445

11 ай бұрын

grand magus lenin, the founding member of the shadow wizard money gang

@kobinho1917

11 ай бұрын

Left handed Lenin

@surpriseandterror9698

10 ай бұрын

People told him to read Lenin, he read Lennon.

In case anyone is interested: Gnosticism refers to several religious movements that were active between 100 and 600 AD. The basic features were: - Absolute division between (worldly) evil and (spiritually) good - Matter is bad and created by evil. Souls are trapped in this evil matter and are supposed to return to God through cleansing rituals - Cleansing rituals and connection with God were treated as secret knowledge. Aka mysticism. Communists very, very rarely teach these strange things. EDIT If you are really looking for an ancient communist religion, choose Mazdakism (Persia 550 AD). This includes: - Abolition of private property - No more nobles and kings - the sharing of women between many men These ideas were so dangerous that, unusually, Persia and the Roman Empire worked together to eradicate this religion

@tituslucretiuscarus659

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Marx explicitly says that we should overcome Yaldabaoth and return to the pleroma on page 782 of Das Kapital Vol. 3.

@jichaelmorgan3796

11 ай бұрын

True, communism has its own wildly unscientific weird metaphysics to deal with. It doesn't need gnosticism on top of it.

@olindblo

11 ай бұрын

The link between gnosticism and communism arises *only* when looking at the history of ideas from a perspective that 1.) is organicist in its historiographical mode (a term conveniently borrowed from Hayden White), 2.) places christianity as the centered subject of that organicist history, and 3.) does so for metaphysical reasons rather than historicist. Of course, all three points go fully unacknowledged by whatifalthist, because if they didn't, then he would have even less wiggle room to bend his "sources" to fit his worldview. The only thing connecting gnosticism and communism is that, from that perspective, both gnosticism and communism are peripheral enemies that "seek knowledge" and challenge christianity's position as the true subject and driver of history. To a christian, two enemies are always one and the same enemy. I wouldn't be surprised that if whatifalthist dedicated himself to being a christian proper, he would end up discovering the kind of orthodoxy that is being peddled by western "orthodox" bros in their teens/twenties farming clout on the internet; it fits his idea of christianity as the subject of history the best.

@tylerbozinovski427

11 ай бұрын

Figures like James Lindsay and TIKHistory cover the gnostic connection with Marxism a lot better than Whatifalthist does. The fact that even their arguments probably won't convince you of anything is further proof of the very arguments that they make. Deprogramming a Marxist is like trying to get a Christian or a Muslim to renounce their faith.

@XMysticHerox

11 ай бұрын

He probably just uses it as the opposite of agnosticism eg believing absolutely in the existance or lack thereof of a god. I suppose in context the is just saying communists just beleive in communism without any room for questioning? Obviously thats still nonsense.

I also liked how he credited the "history is a spiral" line to some dude named Amaury de Reincourt instead of Lenin in his civil war video. Real classy considering Lenin wrote it 4 years before Riencourt was even born.

Remember: it might even give you bad vibes… Thank you for your work and critique of whatifalthist. I am terrified how ignorant his videos are and how many followers he has. Thank you again.

@SF2036

5 ай бұрын

Lol terrified? Give me a break.

Ah, my favorite Wright wing argument, making their own idiologies so they can argue against them

@fallenicarus2685

11 ай бұрын

Both the Left and the Right do this. I've lost count of the amount of ideologies have appeared simply because people want an enemy to argue with. Believing that Socialism or Fascism is inherently evil and viewing the extremist versions of them inevitable you lose the ability to learn how to avoid the mistakes of the past.

@Robert.Stole.the.Television

11 ай бұрын

​@@fallenicarus2685 "Believing fascism is inherently evil" - hol up.

@red_roy

11 ай бұрын

@@fallenicarus2685 im sure leftists strawman too, but "Believing fascism is inherently evil" is a bit different. Because while people have different definitions of facism, it is ultranationalist and tends to be very hierarchy focused. We leftists believe we have more common with the working class of other nationalities than our own overlords, we also think hierarchy is bad. So facism and Socialism is by nature in conflict, one is a culture war, that other cultures are inferior and are the root of their problem, they also tend to strengthen hierarchy in its own culture. while socialism advocates for dissolution of national identities [not culture, just the idea that nationality is important] and want to destroy all hierarchy [well... not auth-left/tankies]. To me inequality seems to be part of the design for facism. Sure there might be some facist theory which isn't inherently hierarchical and I would love to know about it, but I have never come across any facist idea that isn't inequal by design.

@hedgehog3180

11 ай бұрын

@@fallenicarus2685 If you're saying that we shouldn't see fascism as inherently evil then you're already quite the extremist.

@Americanpride555

11 ай бұрын

@@hedgehog3180fascism is the other side of the coin that Communism is. They are both a long term horrific system for the people under its boots.

1:07 "Shadow wizard bolshevick gang,we love proclaiming the dictatorship of the proletariat" *Kautsky catches fire* "This song is sponsored by the soviet government" Scene shift to 1880s imperial germany: "Legalize the SPD."

@grumpfrog8602

10 ай бұрын

My new favorite comment

@im_aleey

2 ай бұрын

I'm dead💀

This is what happens when the only political theory you read is Ayn Rand

His claim that he has friends is most ludicrous of all

@the25thprime

5 ай бұрын

Had* That’s why. lol

@Jotari

5 ай бұрын

That's mean...funny, but mean.

“… dating has increasingly become commodified through apps and other services by for profit corporations, who are not only alienating you from your labor but now are also alienating you from pussy.” This right here. This is the most based statement.

@swadow1497

6 ай бұрын

That shit was fire.

@jasonhaven7170

5 ай бұрын

No it wasn't, yt boy. @@swadow1497

@jasonhaven7170

5 ай бұрын

It really isn't. It's inc*l talk.

@swadow1497

5 ай бұрын

@jasonhaven7170 it's not though. If we ignore the last sentence which was obviously said kinda as a fun joke. Incels blame women for the fact that they are Incels. Whilst this is putting the blame on the objective fact that all major dating apps are for profit corporations who upon seeing you fail to get a relationship try to take cash from you for the promise that now you will have an easier chance at getting into a relationship. Incel shit would be discussing something like facial structure and like how women only date higher status men.

@TheSm1thers

4 ай бұрын

Not really. He just somehow misunderstands whatifalthist talking about the problems of loneliness and dating in society being linked to the internet, calls it "incel theory", blames it on capitalism, dismisses it with "shower more" and continues. It's just dumb.

Lenin casts “Magic Missile,” kills entire Romanov family

@northernpuffer9222

11 ай бұрын

Bullshit. Lenin only knows how to use pyromancy, and Stalin is a rogue. Clearly Trotsky or Bukharin did the act.

@InquisitorThomas

11 ай бұрын

If only Rasputin was there, he could have counterspelled.

@Old_Harry7

11 ай бұрын

​@@InquisitorThomasthat's why the killed, haters will say that it was the nobles that did that but we all know it was the commies, Rasputin had a faith build with almost 80 stat points in magic but was speced on vitality he just had the "endure" passive, if only he could've abused the press turn system to come out on top. We will never know.

@CRT601

10 ай бұрын

​@@InquisitorThomasrasputin is a cringe right hand sorcerer while lenin was a left hand gnostic gigachad

Imagine supporting capitalism and yet you yourself don't have capital.

@Cha4k

3 ай бұрын

The worst kind of corrupted capitalism results in oligarchs controlling all the wealth. The best kind of communism results in oligarchs being handed all the wealth. Under capitalism you can at least work hard and profit off your own labour, And oligarchs who screw up lose everything (Unless capitalism has been corrupted with socialist bailouts for the wealthy as it has in the west)

As Palpatine once said: "To understand the force you must study all its aspects", the same goes for an argument. You have to study both sides, you can't just not listen to the opposing argument and claim to argue objectively

The only thing I can say about the complete destruction of WIAH's ego is that it was inevtable.

@axel665

11 ай бұрын

Nah he will still continue to make this type of video he won't change or read source materials

@PetalPunkFairy

11 ай бұрын

​@@axel665it's sad he cherry picks easy reads that make him feel smart. And he refuses to read anything that contradicts his assumptions. He's said this shit in videos. It sad how dumb dumb he is and he got like pseudo online intellectual clout

@veteran0121

11 ай бұрын

That's funny because this dude doesn't seem egotistical at all. The comment section on this video is a giant pro-communist wankfest.

@notme9816

10 ай бұрын

And quite timely at that!

When he said it's left wing politics, left hand magic and left brain hemisphere I lost all credibility for him instantly. Reminded me of when I was a kid making such nonsensical arbitrary joints too, and reminded me another one of his videos.shorts(two maybe?) where he goes off with whatboutism like this. Well such is a developing brain I guess

@jensphiliphohmann1876

11 ай бұрын

It's a bit funny that he joins left hemisphere thinking and left-hand magic together, unaware or leaving out the well-known fact that the left hemisphere controls the right hand.

@dr0g_Oakblood

11 ай бұрын

@@jensphiliphohmann1876 I was waiting for him to drop that sudden reversal as well, but I guess he's just too drunk on instantly connecting every concept ever affiliated with the word left together into one mega-blob of pure ideology....

@enzoarayamorales7220

11 ай бұрын

You know if I followed his line of left vs right logic then I’d come to the fact that the left brain is more logical and the right brain is more emotional, so it’s actually the left that owns the phrase facts don’t care about your feelings according to this logic

@Dis_Dis

11 ай бұрын

If he had gone for a few more lines with his everything left vs everything right logic he would've arrived at the conclusion that the people who start with the left Twix are Communists.

@Moses_VII

11 ай бұрын

​@@enzoarayamorales7220To be honest, Unlearning Economics is an example of that.

When I started watching the video I didn't anticipate that you are a very intelligent and capable, especially rethorically, person. Subscribed.

@llodskfj5228

7 ай бұрын

When I started watching the video I didn't anticipate that you are a very intelligent and capable, especially rhetorically, person. Unsubbed.

"communists don't think about how money is produced" That's literally one of the first things Marx covers in Das Kapital 😭😭😭

I am equally parts excited and terrified for this video. Excited because it will be lovely seeing someone destroying his awful "arguments". Terrified because I am afraid of what long term exposure to Whatifalthist videos does to a mind

@something1600

11 ай бұрын

Don't worry, the effects of exposure to Whatifalthist can be treated by screaming into your bed's pillow out of frustration.

@AN-jz3kf

11 ай бұрын

Fredda's mental health is a price I'm willing to pay

@thespiffyduck

11 ай бұрын

I have been watching Whatifalthist for a few years now. It is nice to brew a cup of tea and sit down for a few laughs and watch him talk about how bad people with different political views are. One of my favourite examples of his hypocrisy is him blaming boomers for today's society, then blaming gen z in another video.

@insertnamehere1258

11 ай бұрын

Salute to Freda for sacrificing his mental health for our entertainment.

@salutic.7544

11 ай бұрын

I have, irreparable damage. I’m communist ffs idk y I keep torturing myself by coming back to him

thank you for this video. Whatifalthist is in general such a weird channel, and he often seems to project his own personal issues through a lens of "historical" or "political" videos, sometimes what he says is just straightup creepy.

@adrvlogs3262

11 ай бұрын

Bro you realize that’s what every “historical” or “political” KZreadr does tho right? Across the spectrum that’s how it’s done cause it gets ‘em views baby.

@CheesyMez

11 ай бұрын

@@adrvlogs3262 theres a difference between have a political bias, and complaining about having no girlfriend and fitting that into a narrative

@John_Smith134

11 ай бұрын

​@@CheesyMezWhen has he complained to not have a girlfriend? Can you cite the video, as well as a time stamp so I can review that moment?

@bill5627

11 ай бұрын

​​@@John_Smith134He didn't say it directly but he says a civil war in the USA is going to happen because men aren't having sex enough,like what the hell? I am not from the USA so I wouldn't know but that's not a normal argument even for a rightist.

@CheesyMez

11 ай бұрын

@@John_Smith134 i cant be really that bothered to watch a full 40 minute video, but pretty much every video he complains that the current generation doesnt have enough sex, or that the “dating market” is broken, when its clear none of this is true and he just doesnt go outside

John Lennon sang, “nothing to kill or die for”, not as Rudyard misquoted, “nothing to live or die for”. He hears what he wants to hear.

Is it just me or does Whatifalthist give me incel vibes? It is much more clear in his American civil war vid where he basically says that men not losing their virginity will lead to them being angry and cause a civil war (which kinda seems like projection) but this is a recurring theme in many of his videos

He complains about "secularized Jews" and then mentions Albert Einstein as one of the good ones. Even though Einstein was a very secularized man who had to make repeated clarifications that he doesn't believe in a personal god and when he says God he means the universe. (He is often called a pantheist, however pantheism is not a religion by any definition of the word. It's barely a vague spiritual veneer over naturalism.)

@Moses_VII

11 ай бұрын

And the Arabs say he converted to Islam and went to Hajj...

@alexandergilbert1023

10 ай бұрын

Soo... secular?

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

6 ай бұрын

@@alexandergilbert1023 yes Albert Einstein was a secular jew

@glazersfest

6 ай бұрын

@@Moses_VIIno we don't? You pulled that out of your ass LOL

@user-ej6mm5tq9y

5 ай бұрын

@@Moses_VII I am an Arab and no one says this

I enjoyed his collaboration with Issac Arthur on the geopolitics of space, but this kinda makes me want to go back and rewatch it more critically.

@dango6266

10 ай бұрын

He used to have kinda decent alt history and future history content but I fear he's going down a path I cannot follow

@chrisgaming9567

6 ай бұрын

I cut ties with Isaac Arthur because of that collab

"Women are not competitive" part is funny at so many levele that I wonder if we all just fell for elaborate parody video.

@karaqakkzl

7 күн бұрын

Depends, may be there aren't many cases of rapes or sexual assault made by women

@dziewiaty

7 күн бұрын

@@karaqakkzl what the fuck are you even talking about, since when assault is an equivalency of ranked mode. I hope you live in a country when SA record is public, because holy shit what a response

You and whatifalthist should do a live debate

i love that ending, its always weird when right wingers stumble into marxist thinking without realizing it.

@eduardcardenas9736

6 ай бұрын

he just went so right he came back from the left

@russman3787

6 ай бұрын

@@eduardcardenas9736 the horshoe is real

@applesyrupgaming

6 ай бұрын

​@@eduardcardenas9736s t r a s s e r i s m

When your citation list starts with a literal Holocaust denier, perhaps the list can be viewed as suspicious. As for the illegitimate child claim, the maid worked for Engels during Marx's time working for a New York Newspaper. He only returned from that nearly year-long job a few months before the boy was born. I put the claim that Marx was the father as laughable at best

@ericmacrae6871

11 ай бұрын

Honestly I keep hearing that claim a lot now that I know the context I am not surprise of cringe it really is

@upsbabygirl18

10 ай бұрын

Who is a holocaust denier?

@downix

10 ай бұрын

@@upsbabygirl18 Timothy Snyder is rather well known for a particular kind of Holocaust denial; that it happened, but it wasn't the poor Nazis fault. It was those pesky Communists who caused it to happen, if you ever read his books Black Earth or Bloodlands.

@Mantis-ti5ve

8 ай бұрын

A historical fact so obviously true, you need draconian laws to punish thise who question it and silence all discussion!

I loved the part where he proposes land redistribution as a way to get rid of communism lol

@gunner23_49

7 ай бұрын

Yes but privately owned dum dum

@pepesfinalform4634

7 ай бұрын

@@gunner23_49 Communists believe that those who live on/work the land should own it. There is no contradiction dum dum

@davidtaylor142

6 ай бұрын

​@@gunner23_49 PERSONALLY owned. It's a different concept. No one is against personal property.

@MrNote-lz7lh

5 ай бұрын

@@davidtaylor142 There is no difference between personal and private property.

@davidtaylor142

5 ай бұрын

@@MrNote-lz7lh you can't just say stuff man. If you're confused go look it up

I clicked on this vid before I noticed the length and, honestly, I expected I would give up on it. But it was so interesting and captivating! Bravo!

It's pretty funny that the first point he made would be nonsense if the French estates general had a different seating structure.

@Lucas24997

11 ай бұрын

He would simply say that communism comes from the right part of the brain and uses rigth hand energy

@FreddaYT

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, I think he was just having fun with that entire part of the video. Still did NOT need to be present in a 50-minute video!

I love how all his reading lists feature pop sci books, I scream every time there's one on there that also was featured on the "If Books Could Kill" podcast.

The dunning-kruger effect is strong with this one

Whatifhistory is the definition of "smart enough to read a book, too stupid to understand it." except he did not even bother with the first part.

@seanhartnett79

7 ай бұрын

Yep

@spoxx1802

6 ай бұрын

His idol Jordan Peterson too

@seanhartnett79

6 ай бұрын

@@spoxx1802 Jordan Peterson got into right wing politics and went off the deep end.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

6 ай бұрын

@@seanhartnett79 i still. Remember a time where Peterson was respectable and decent as a person and then he went to the right got a taste of power and never looked back

@seanhartnett79

6 ай бұрын

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle basically it has made him miserable too.

I was going to write a comment about how you should go easy on him since he doesn't know how to conduct research properly, and then he said "women are not competitive". I now realize that the problem isn't that he doesn't know how to conduct research, the problem is that he doesn't know how to critically think.

@fechlin2412

11 ай бұрын

The issue is he preaches like he's a historian but refuses to actually research or understand what the hell he's talking about

@hagonistheman7880

10 ай бұрын

He said in another video that women are competitive, but in a different way than men.

@cromancer3219

10 ай бұрын

@@hagonistheman7880 Yeah he generalises a lotta things and he didn't mean women are not competitive

@jeremyandrews3292

9 ай бұрын

I just assumed that what he meant by that was "on average, women tend to be less competitive than men with regards to power." Meaning that some women definitely are competitive with regards to power but they are outliers, and there's definitely room for women to be competitive in other ways like, say, beauty or gaining status by marrying the right man. I've always kind of thought... women can see the size of each other's breasts all the time, and if men are prone to insecurity about the size of another guy's... well, you know, that they can't see, I have wonder how being able to see how big or small your "competitions" endowment is every single time you look at them, leads to insecurity, self-comparison, and an automatic implied pecking order that need not even be discussed...

@mynamejeff3545

9 ай бұрын

@@jeremyandrews3292 This is the most deranged thing I've seen all day. Bravo.

Anyone who says something like that “women aren’t competitive” you instantly can just assume most of what we’re saying are dumb. Watching those dudes videos (which brought me here) are funny because even with the very little knowledge I have of communism and history, using critical thinking its easy to see the manipulative flawed language used everywhere in his speaking

Here is an improbable alternate history: What if Whatifalthist is actually intelligent and insightful.

@rayleth5979

5 ай бұрын

He would further his studies and continuously engages with his professors even if the college he studied at was considered woke. In fact, I’d say that the college being too woke for him would be a good opportunity to learn about woke culture in education and dissect the culture and form a nuanced analysis. He might still disagree with it but at least now he won’t resort to “the left can’t think” or some bs like that

@karaqakkzl

7 күн бұрын

​@@rayleth5979 better question, is woke should consider bad? Why Marvel movies and Ring of Power are bad?

can't believe I almost thought he was right. I don't typically do my own research on this type of stuff, since I got other stuff to do. But I am thankful I seeked criticism for this man

@Emery_Pallas

11 ай бұрын

Yeah do, you are better off reading Chuck Tingle for historical and geopolitical education

@AlexAzureOtaku

11 ай бұрын

@@Emery_Pallas what do you mean chuck tingle isn't the greatest historical social commentary literature ever

@Emery_Pallas

11 ай бұрын

@@AlexAzureOtaku yes that's why I recommended them

@veteran0121

11 ай бұрын

I can't believe you lunatics think you're right. You literally believe you can make the Earth perfect. Which is more insane? Believing you can make the Earth perfect or a spiritual afterlife? My view is the former is WAY more insane. And yes communism is a religion. It would have to be considering how insane it is and the amount of people who buy into it's philosphies.

@arshamshayan

11 ай бұрын

@@Emery_Pallas sounds great, I'll check him out

Given that Vaush also thought he was the one being referenced when he talked about critique from a communist since he made those same critiques, I think the problem is just that these problems with whatifalthist are so obvious just about everyone has noticed him. And still he tries to pretend they don't exist.

@FreddaYT

11 ай бұрын

Also the fact that he didn't cite when it happened and who did it, which is very in-character!

that intro where he started talking about magic and using outdated ideas such as "brain hemispheres" show he has nothing of value to say.

I like how Fredda structures his videos, it feels very formal and informative while staying entertaining and funny. One of my fav analysts out there

Some of what Whatifalthist believes is genuinely concerning with his views on women and Jewish people being notable. For someone who dropped out of college for being too woke it's not a surprise he doesn't source anything. It's a shame someone who has such a large platform is able to spread such baseless views it's saddening. Either way thank you for making this video, people like this should always be held accountable in a balanced way I appreciate how your videos do this.

@Emery_Pallas

11 ай бұрын

Wasn’t it high school he dropped out of?

@crimsonwings4632

11 ай бұрын

@@Emery_Pallas To be honest I don't remember, it was one of the two for sure

@Mag_ladroth

11 ай бұрын

@@Emery_Pallas I think he was getting a degree in history but dropped out because he thought college is too woke

@kylegonewild

10 ай бұрын

@@Mag_ladroth Makes sense. College doesn't just blindly blame women and Jews for everything you don't like which is not the history he wants to live in.

@asandax6

9 ай бұрын

​@@kylegonewildYour right it only blames Men and Women they don't like.

The way he spouts his ignorance of history and ass-backwards conclusions with such smug confidence is just unbearable.

@karaqakkzl

7 күн бұрын

Between the guy who find the false source and the guy who always source "trust me bro, i made up" who would you choose?

This guy is basically Jordan Peterson minus the fancy degree. Didn't read the material, makes a bunch of assumptions and coasts off his own audience's ignorance.

As a left-handed person, I'd love to learn more about this "left hand magic". Do I get to use the force or some shit, or is it just more discrimination for the crime of not being right-handed?

@carmensavu5122

3 ай бұрын

I've never heard of left-hand magic, but there is a concept in religion of left-hand vs. right-hand path. I think Arith Harger has some nice videos explaining it. Basically, right-hand path is like conventional religion, where you work to serve god(s), it's more collective, you bow to authority etc, and left-hand is where you want your religion to work for your goals, it's more individualistic, doesn't bow to authority, etc. Anyway, greetings from a fellow left-handed person. ;)

This WIAH guy is just a glowing example of what American rightwing thought does to a mf

@minestar2247

11 ай бұрын

The worst is that he probably considers himself a centrist

@thorpeaaron1110

11 ай бұрын

Like the Left Wing is so innocent

@SMH55

11 ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110 nowhere did i say that it was, dont assume

@treyebillups8602

11 ай бұрын

@@SMH55 he has a pinochet pfp hes going to be stupid like this

@Mag_ladroth

11 ай бұрын

@@minestar2247 Prettty sure I heard him say that he does not consider himself a right winger

I received training in philosophy and history in Geneva (Switzerland). At one point in my youth I was confronted with a problem: revisionism about the Nazi concentration camps. In short: the denial of the Shoah and Porajmos (Holocaust is a word laden with ideology). The decision of French, Italian, German and Spanish-speaking historians was to refuse to debate Holocaust deniers. An astronomer doesn't discuss cosmology with an astrologer. Social media inspired by a dominant cultural context (Anglophone) incense the debate. There is no debate with the falsifiers. That's what you do, you debunk not debate. Ah yes, on one side there is you, probably an academic (mastery of the use of sources) and on the other side a propagandist. I beg you not to present your confrontation as a debate. Debate is an organized and directed discussion made by people knowledgeable about a specific topic. Otherwise it's a discussion about opinions. Ps : I subscribed.

@FreddaYT

11 ай бұрын

I don't do debates, so that shouldn't be a problem. I hate the debate form as well.

@neverstopschweiking

5 ай бұрын

Interesting. I didn't expect to see such opinion here. This debate is absolutely filled with communist (well, western middle-class rich teenager "communist") propaganda and it is something I despise as much as nazi propaganda, being a hardcore anti-communist anti-nazi who was born in a socialist (marxist) country and our family was massacred by both mainstream socialists - nazis and communists. I do hate both. (I'm Czech, it is the majority worldview here). I wouldn't probably agree with your political stances, yet you stand by one very good principle - it is necessary to debate an ideological opponent. It is pointless to debate a propagandist. Although I see this video as two propagandists calling each other out. I noticed while a nazi might sometimes be willing to respond to actual arguments for some time before attacking and spewing hate, a modern western communist will never accept such a challenge as providing valid arguments. And understandably so - the western communists are not philosophers searching for the truth, they are religious cultists trying to spread the gospel (party propaganda). It is useless for them to debate with a Czech, Polish or Hungarian, we do have historical experience and they understand after few sentences they will not persuade us to join their cult. Thus they have zero interest in debating with us. And rightfully so as a holocaust denier has no interest in debating with Jews in Jerusalem about gas chambers being a hoax. By the way, never have I seen more hardcore personal attacks, more hate, more organised vandalising of a debate than the one time I mentioned the existence of a section of Dablice graveyard where the mass grave of newborns and babies is located. Babies of political dissidents who were tortured to death in front of their mothers by the communist regime secret police. This is a known location in Prague, there are official remembrance actions, it is about as undeniable as the existence of nazi concentration camps mass graves. Just by mentioning it I triggered hundreds, if not thousands of communist redditors who absolutely brigaded one single post on one subreddit by organising on 4 other subreddits and attacking in matter of minutes. I seriously doubt there is any possibility of a debate.

Shoutout to the moment around 32:30 where he starts accidentally arguing for regular people owning the means of production, basically "communism won't make sense if we achieve communism"

@kuman0110

7 ай бұрын

well what he's proposing is pretty much what Engels called reactionary socialists (we need to retvrn to feudalism to escape the evils of capitalism)

@Tsuruchi_420

7 ай бұрын

@@kuman0110 yes, pretty much the same thing the modern "reject modernity" Crowd says, but it is how a lot of conservatives feel, and I think it's better than the people who are actually convinced neo liberalism is good

"women aren't competitive" this mf has clearly never seen a girls highschool volleyball team because they are vicious

@SpoopySquid

Ай бұрын

Girls' high-school water polo is might as well be legalised bloodsport

@karaqakkzl

7 күн бұрын

What he mean is there are no cases of women rapist and men can't get sexual assault