Its funny how finding Jesus would unironically work towards Kratos's character development

@SgtTeddybear66

Жыл бұрын

Jesus works towards all of our character development.

@kerrick7621

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtTeddybear66what they meant I think is his journey to redemption and the rejection of his past brutality.

@SmolTerribleTornado

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtTeddybear66 I love this

@azure.heartz

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtTeddybear66 great comment ❤

@yourdad5799

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtTeddybear66 and towards some people's downfall

The final boss Kratos has to face: forgiving himself.

@scoobyscoobsc3373

Жыл бұрын

That would be kinda good. Like old and young Kratos face each other, beat the shit out of each other and finish it with hug and monologue about revenge, family and future. And after credits we see granpa Kratos, who grows cabages, pickles etc with grown Atreus.

@taco6886

Жыл бұрын

@@idekxd6332 he’s not gay where did you get thaf

@taco6886

Жыл бұрын

@@idekxd6332 he’s married with like 4 kids

@Jester4460

Жыл бұрын

@@idekxd6332 💀

@Delta_2209

Жыл бұрын

The final boss of the franchise being Kratos himself would be the best possible way to end the series

It feels kinda rare that I find a corner of culture that treats Christianity so carefully and accurately, so it’s super heartwarming to see in these memes

@quantumvideoscz2052

7 ай бұрын

You seem to be missing all the inexcusable crimes committed in the name of "oUr lOrD". People being stoned to death, burned at stake etc. All the cruelty of the Old Testament. All the contradictions in the New Testament. And the utterly disgusting behaviour of current Christians who, if American and Polish, want to destroy a great number of people for daring to not love the same gender or daring to not feel comfortable in their own body. Christians who, if from anywhere else, at least wilfully overlook the massive pedo presence in the Catholic Church. This Christianity? If this is the "religion of peace and kindness and love", I'd like to see the "religion of war, cruelty and hatred", it would have to be insane to even get equally as shit.

@karoszu1844

7 ай бұрын

It's actually moving tbh

@TheTrueAdept

3 ай бұрын

Think of it this way, you can blame sects like the Puritains (aka the closest thing we've got for a Christain ISIS in Christian history at the posting of this comment, though there are modern sects that are getting pretty close) and various nations that did all sorts of things in it's name for Christanity's bad rep.

@thedukeofchutney468

Ай бұрын

@@TheTrueAdeptOk dude while the puritans were FAR from perfect, or even good. Comparing them to isis only goes to show you likely know little about either group. The puritans, believe it or not. Were largely peaceful and actually fled to the new world to escape persecution. They didn’t attempt to fight the government or anything like that, they peacefully left. The puritans also had a massive emphasis on education. For all the Salem witch trial jokes they were actually amping the most well educated and egalitarian societies on earth at that time and were actually pretty advanced. Isis on the other hand is the complete opposite. They are a group hell bent on conquering the entirety of the Middle East (and arguably beyond) using persecution and force. They are generally not well educated and have a highly volatile society. For all their faults the puritans were actually pretty darn good by historical standards. The Catholic Church objectively did more harm then the puritans and even then they were a major force for science, medicine, education and cultural stability. There is no comparison here.

@TheTrueAdept

Ай бұрын

@@thedukeofchutney468 ... then you haven't looked through history. The Puritans were the reason that the restored British Crown went on a religious oppression spree.

I unironicly want Jesus as the end of Kratos journey. Kratos being finally forgiven.

@DatAsianGuy

7 ай бұрын

never going to happen. the current cultural zeitgeist is far more focused on hating and attacking Christians and Christianity.

@JesusIsKingMyLord

7 ай бұрын

Gospel of Jesus Christ John 3:16 For God So loved the world that he gave his only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not Perish but have Everlasting Life. Jesus Christ Died for the sin of the World, If you believe in ur heart God risen Jesus from the dead and confess him with ur mouth to people you shall be saved. Jesus said I Am The only way to heaven there is no other way! Repent of urs sins (Repent means Change ur Mind turning away from sinful things and being truly sorry for it.) trust Jesus and give ur life to him He Loves you cares about you more than anyone ever will! we are saved By Grace Trough Faith!,this is sin: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 3:23 For all have sined and felt short of the Glory of God. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:18‭-‬21‭, ‬23 KJV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 REPENT OR YOU WILL PERISH REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL GET RIGHT WITH GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOONER THAN YOU THINK TIME IS RUNNING OUT!.❤❤

@SpinoSam

7 ай бұрын

Idk if this is true but I have heard that the original ending of the God Of War series would have seen Kratos, Tyr and Montu (the Egyptian God of War) do something which basically brings the end of all Gods everywhere and become the 3 Wise Men. Ending with the three visiting the birth of Jesus like in the actual story.

@DatAsianGuy

7 ай бұрын

so they were making the bible: the prequel? @@SpinoSam

@pasalasaga

7 ай бұрын

@@SpinoSam I know. It sounds cool, but very awkward for an ending.

All jokes aside, that image of Jesus taking Kratos’ ashen skin is legit.

@josesosa3337

Жыл бұрын

Okay, jesus taking the ash off kratos' skin sounds awesome. If it isn't cringey, I would'nt mind kratos meeting jesus just for that.

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

@@josesosa3337 I've been saying that up and down the comments that visual combined with an orchestra toward the end of the last God of war with Kratos would be so powerful

@pinkpaintsx

Жыл бұрын

@@josesosa3337 would be good but him wearing it.... nah.

@irvinreevesinbaraj6134

Жыл бұрын

I cannot find that video anywhere. Can you help?

@triplecrosscounter

Жыл бұрын

@@Kinobambino it would make me cry bro, Jesus has been known to give tortured souls a second chance by absolving them of their sins. And kratos is as tortured as you can get.

As a Christian. I would absolutely love to see that game. Edit: if you reading the comments. Bring with you some popcorn. Also those who think Jesus and Kratos would fight, hate to ruin your parade. Considering Kratos is currently developing as a character that is going trying to help other gods/characters not make the mistakes he made. He probably end up getting forgiveness from Christ and that being the resolution of his story.

@jellyjelly6474

Жыл бұрын

I really don't think you are going to love seeing your god act like an arrogant fool and successively get slaughtered by an angry man

@bro_izzy

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@LazarNaskov

Жыл бұрын

@@jellyjelly6474Also as a Christian watching such a common and harmful misrepresentation of the God of Christianity get punched in the face would be pretty satisfying ngl, probably a little too satisfying. (For the record a lot of Christians do the misinterpreting as well, this isn’t an “atheist bad” post)

@_d--

Жыл бұрын

@@ExperiencesXP ah jokes on you he later took over their empire

@jellymatsuryuka6853

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine Kratos throwing hands at Satan tho, coolest thing ever

I would imagine a scenario of Kratos crossing paths with Jesus: Kratos comes across a simple hut, and Jesus doing some simple carpentry. Jesus jokingly says that He doesnt get much visitors and just happily invites him over lunch, Kratos was hesitant but Jesus insisted. Eventually, they have a good conversation more similar to the act of confession in actual church setting. By post-endgame, you return to the hut, it was occupied by an elderly shepherd with a family. Kratos asked where the former occupant was. The shepherd replied that the man simply left just like that when he and his family were just asking him if they could stay for the night, by next morning he was just gone and all that remained was a letter stating that everything including the hut is theirs. Showing the letter to Kratos, with the old man replying "Peculiar fellow, that one. But he's a kind host nonetheless, quite a sight to see men like that nowadays"

@mariano8910

5 ай бұрын

Finally someone who doesn't think Kratos would actually beg a son of a god to forgive him.

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

​@@mariano8910"how can one expect forgiveness if they themselves cannot forgive themselves first?" -Some guy

@BionicDirector117

4 ай бұрын

This is possibly the least offensive or questionable idea I've seen in this thread. A respectful but not preachy application, and doesn't need to be a larger plot, battle, or game mechanic, just a nice encounter and the man is on his way. After all, he'd have other things to do in this world rolling with overly self-indulgent and egotistical pantheons.

@marstothestars33

4 ай бұрын

@BionicDirector117 Ah yes, because people tying in their faith to media they like is offensive.

@BionicDirector117

4 ай бұрын

​@@marstothestars33 I think you've completely misinterpreted what I'm trying to say with this. I never said that tying faith to something is offensive, but it can be done poorly. Modern faith is a very delicate subject in entertainment fiction for a number of reasons. Firstly, you run the risk of angering upwards of millions of people if your usage of their faith is implemented poorly such as offensive or demeaning interpretations of the faith in question. Second, coming from a position of faithfulness can also risk alienating a large audience if they do not share the same belief (non-religious people or those of a different religion alltogether) especially if it comes off as "preachy" or overly favoring one religion over others, especially if you have multiple modern religions involved. For God of War, adding in Christian elements like Jesus or other Biblical characters would be a risk to introduce so late in the franchise and could turn LOTS of people off if done poorly. I was complimenting the original idea as a good middle ground that I (a non-religious person) would accept in a series I enjoy that has not utilized modern religion and particularly Christianity as it doesn't feel like I'm being preached to, nor does it make Jesus some overpowered superbeing or anything. It leaves his full potential open to interpretation in this universe and allows for discussion around the character. It's not lampooning Christianity or non-Christians and it would be very thematically consistent with the latest installment of God of War and especially the Valhalla DLC's ending which I won't spoil here. Obviously, I don't speak for everyone but compared to some of the other takes in comment section that lean strongly one way or another, I like this one the most.

Kratos meeting Jesus would be a very powerful interaction. Meeting the son of God and hearing that despite his past sins he is still loved and shown forgiveness by another God would be kinda moving to see. I may not be religious but I'd still be moved by something that deep.

@wasabi5338

11 ай бұрын

I can imagine Kratos and Jesus becomes such good friends that Kratos would try to raid hell after Jesus dies only to find out Jesus rose again 3 days later lol.

@worminaround

9 ай бұрын

​@@wasabi5338Kratos diving into hell to save a friend is definitely a Kratos thing to do

@JamesTAdams

9 ай бұрын

@@worminaround Kratos and Satan: “You have stolen a brother from me. I would have him back” _”A noble sentiment, but I do not have him. He is beyond my reach in every way. You would’ve done better to stand watch at his tomb then decimate my kingdom”_ “You are an enemy.” _”And why must I be?”_ “And a deceiver” _”Smart aren’t you?”_ … “You will _not_ bar my return.” _”Of course not. I remember Hades…”_ “Then let his memory be a warning”

@lolstalgic9602

8 ай бұрын

After everything that has happened to, Kratos hearing of a God that actually loves and cares for His people would be an epic story on it's own right

@Drengr-Wulf

8 ай бұрын

That would only happen if Kratos became Christian. Christians and Christ alike, hate other faiths.

It would be sick if Kratos and Jesus teamed up to fight satan lol

@RC-fp1tl

Жыл бұрын

That would be epic

@tomas_505

Жыл бұрын

that would be the new doom timeline

@asdrewyeq

Жыл бұрын

That would be epic

@swag_flamingo

Жыл бұрын

@@WhyisAlpharius69 Average Wyoming religion hater

@nerdsahhgaming4779

Жыл бұрын

@@maxotto9877 *Vine Boom*

Lmfao imagine kratos throwing hands with Jesus.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Too Controversial

@NiXx2863

Жыл бұрын

I could just see Jesus using like a big bread wall to block punches and when he gets hit hes just wine, pure liquid

@avaius

Жыл бұрын

@@NiXx2863 and slaps people with fish

@Mickey-cf7qx

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSearchForTruth88 cope more

@VERGIL00

Жыл бұрын

Jesus inflect massive holy damage 😭

I can imagine Jesus saving Kratos from some lethal blow and giving a little speech along the lines of, "This isn't the first time I have died for others"

@JLTrj00913

Жыл бұрын

Underrated

@thxcbo

7 ай бұрын

That’s stupid

@reignellwalker9755

6 ай бұрын

God bless you and Jesus loves you so much that is why he died for you. He rose from the dead 3 days later and by putting your faith in him as lord and saviour you will be saved.

@daZelly

6 ай бұрын

Perfect idea. Kratos is fighting Lucifer, Belzabub, or Satan and Jesus come and saves kratos' life 🔥

@allmightlionthunder5515

6 ай бұрын

In Greek mythology, Prometheus created man from clay and stole fire for human use. As punishment for his rebelliousness Prometheus was sentenced with eternal torment by Zeus; bound to a rock by chains, he was visited each day by an eagle who fed off his liver. (let make man in our image our likeness) Prometheus created man from clay and stole fire for human use. then Trajan stole it to ow the goths stole it to Jesus is a medieval/renaissance older Theseus story same with king Arthur The image of Theseus aka Jesus dose not look like Herod or Borgia nor mars lol his name should be Theseus and look like a white guy not a Sarmatian or Jew lol Theseus Jesus Ephesus Ephraim Epirus son of Aegeus Caspian is Christ

I’d love to have another Joshua Graham situation in the god of war series. A character, or characters, so well written they actually make people religious or influence people morally.

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

Whats Joshua Graham situation

@AzayBae

10 ай бұрын

@@Kinobambino In the Fallout New Vegas DLC Honest Hearts you meet a character named Joshua Graham. He went through a lot and returned to his Mormon faith. Apparently, his story is impactful to the point some people converted to Christianity or thought of it in a different way.

@JanoAnima

7 ай бұрын

I can easily wrap my head around Kratos becoming some sort of Joshua Graham. Not some goofy pacifist annoying people with deceitful pamphlets, but a fair man of faith who is able to forgive others and himself, yet one who will never coward away from a righteous battle.

@electroeel148

7 ай бұрын

I see what you're saying but Joshua Graham was a far more complex figure than someone who followed the Word of God. He is a man that is constantly tormented by his acts as the Legate, struggling between his want for vengeance and retribution against those that wished to harm his new people, and trying to lay to rest his own Demons. Orators meeting Jesus would be a far more fitting interaction as the Carpenter would teach the Ghost of Sparta the most important thing: Forgiveness toward not only his foes but toward himself

@markstein2845

7 ай бұрын

Joshua was a bad man who turned good, Jesus wouldn't be a good replacement for Joshua as since was sinless, Saint Paul would be more fitting for this role of the religious redempt figure.

Jesus would be the guy that sits near save points and gives advice and helps guide kratos. You wouldn’t know it was Jesus till the end of the story where he walks away while disappearing into the sunset while monologuing about how kratos still deserves love.

@parzavaal5335

Жыл бұрын

These comments just keep getting better and better

@TitusCastiglione1503

Жыл бұрын

Kratos wouldn’t deserve love, after all he’s done… But Jesus would give love Kratos anyway. That is what Grace means.

@Cryo-15

Жыл бұрын

He gives a monologue while walking on water towards the sunset

@cybermang878

Жыл бұрын

Dude will say some cryptic shit like "Everything is circular, if it rotates" and ride off into the sunrise

@TitusCastiglione1503

Жыл бұрын

@@cybermang878 that sounds more like master oogway than Jesus Christ lol

Just the idea of Kratos meeting a pacifist God with no intention of betraying or deceiving him would be sick. Hoping for it in the future

@gnomeski6561

Жыл бұрын

Even more so that Kratos has become more understanding of other people and a nicer person in general

@SmolTerribleTornado

Жыл бұрын

Not just that but someone who also was betrayed by someone who he trusted.

@gnomeski6561

Жыл бұрын

@@SmolTerribleTornado Judas I'm guessing?

@SmolTerribleTornado

Жыл бұрын

@@gnomeski6561 ye

@itswhiterice215

Жыл бұрын

What if the twist is that the followers of Jesus were the antagonists? Hence the dark ages, crusaders, etc. they could even do a theme similar to blasphemous

After the Valhalla dlc I am certain Jesus would see Kratos and the only thing he would want to say to him is "I'm proud of how far you have come"

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

Kratos: who are you? "Mysterious stranger": many have heard of your deeds, ghost of Sparta. Kratos: yes, and what do they matter to *you?* Mysterious stranger: come, take a seat. Let's talk

I grew up in a Christian household but am no longer religious, but the line “Kratos, lay all your burdens upon me” is such a great concept

@IMMA_MINER

5 ай бұрын

Hope you find God again fellow sinner😊

@flap.d.jack247

5 ай бұрын

​@@IMMA_MINERshut up

@mrinsomniac2968

4 ай бұрын

@@IMMA_MINER Maybe this is why they arent religious anymore

@Donfryesmustache

4 ай бұрын

​@@mrinsomniac2968Accepting the love of God is by no means a bad thing, brother.

@BionicDirector117

4 ай бұрын

@@Donfryesmustache People don't like being proselytized to by people who don't know their life. Save your energy for someone whose attention you have earned.

The most respectful way possible for them to handle Jesus would essentially be to have him speak in riddles the entire time, and make it to where he’s very much a secondary figure. That said, I seriously doubt they’ll ever make a game with him in it.

@justiny2215

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i can see them crossing paths , but at that point int would be more cinematic. Unless they go the High-school DxD way and make Heaven antagonistic. It's wear because it's not that games don't touch Christianity, but it's always criticizing God not Jesus, he is always kind of ignored.

@joejorhgonson4417

Жыл бұрын

@@justiny2215 was heaven that antagonistic in DxD? I don’t remember them doing a whole lot… then again I feel like they didn’t do anything lol. Maybe you could refresh my crusty ass membory

@Moneynis

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he could be a cameo. He did wandered into the desert for 40 days so maybe he encountered him there.

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

Nah the best way would to be to keep Jesus not even in the story til the end if the game. Then they meet him. Jesus touches Kratos and his ashes depart from his skin and Jesus just walks away.

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

@@Moneynis exactly what I had in my mind

It warms my heart seeing the Jesus-Kratos meme with Jesus still loving him despite the things he has done

@smashyboi6887

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Unfortunately I am seeing a lot of people wanting them to fight. Which just isn’t in Jesus’ nature

@gabrielemersoncalderon3752

Жыл бұрын

@@smashyboi6887 Exactly, especially since Kratos is trying to set a good example for Atreus now that he's changed for the good. At worse, they would have an arguement but even that isn't likely.

@joey.sportsedits

Жыл бұрын

@@smashyboi6887 Jesus wouldn’t fight him

@smashyboi6887

Жыл бұрын

@@joey.sportsedits Not at all

@smashyboi6887

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielemersoncalderon3752 Even then Jesus has God’s wisdom and the argument would end quickly

Honestly I'd love it. A god defined by his regrets and literally covered in his sin never allowed to forget his past, meeting a God who's entire personality is surrounded by the idea of forgiveness.

@ocarinaplaya

4 ай бұрын

Kratos was technically forgiven for killing his family in the first game, but wasn't allowed to forget the sin. Leading to yeeting himself off a cliff.

@delphy2478

Ай бұрын

'here, let me help you wash that off' completely shocking the heck out of kratos

I think if god of war ever had a ending kratos meeting Jesus and realizing he doesn’t have to fight anymore would be pretty wholesome No double crossing no evil gods just an old spartan and a carpenter hanging out

I can imagine kratos accepting a hug from Jesus and bit by bit, the ashes of his skin begin to banish

@aguywholifts680

Жыл бұрын

Damn hits right in the feels

@ajarofpickles2826

Жыл бұрын

I would unironically love this

@astra3310

Жыл бұрын

Only for Kratos to say “leave it as it is. It is my burden to bear and I would not part with it”

@NoName-jv2wz

Жыл бұрын

This would be the best end for GOW

@doom8195

Жыл бұрын

nah he would kill the holy trinity, remember that gods in gow represents the power of everything and still being egotistical, because what they want to portray is that gods, are humans, (narcissist, arrogant, stupid, ego centered) with powers

*"I once met a God that was equal parts mortal and immortal."* "Really? What was he like?" *"He made water into wine"* "And then what?" *"I do not remember"*

@rainbr1nger115

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the best comment here

@keithedwards9953

Жыл бұрын

He made a LOT of water into wine.

@orangejoe2147

Жыл бұрын

“And then he made fish and bread into a lot more fish and bread”

@stycks3008

Жыл бұрын

@@orangejoe2147 nah he just has a larger inventory

@eboroni

Жыл бұрын

And then he walked on water

Kratos' story is one of forgiveness. Freya's forgiveness of him. Atreus' forgiveness of him. The people of the nine realms not forgiving Odin. His inability to forgive himself. If the final step of his story was not forgiveness of himself in some manner, similar to that of Christianity, it wouldn't feel right. Edit: since the ashes on his skin represent his guilt, that image of Jesus taking on his ashes is both thematically fitting for the games and for Christianity. That artist deserves some applause

Honestly as a Christian myself I would love to see their take of Jesus, even embellish some things from scripture itself. I don't care if they did portray them in another way I just want to see what would happen.

As a Christian, I think it would be interesting to see Kratos(one who wanted to destroy all gods because of their selfish nature and it’s effect) meet the God who literally gave His life for his people. I think they would get along.

@meatmenace8887

Жыл бұрын

I would love the idea that kratos could become an archangel.

@TVeesVault

Жыл бұрын

i came into the comments to say just this

@SpinoSam

Жыл бұрын

crazy fact: God Of War 3 was supposed to end with Kratos, Tyr and the Egyptian God Of War becoming the 3 wise men from Christianity

@ar4imond

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the God who murdered entire humanity with flood, who turned people in salt, who approved the extermination of ancient palestines by Abraham tribe, who devastated Egypt with plagues, who slain innocent Egyptian children, who banished Adam and Eve from Eden because they didnt fully obey which he made sure they will do by granting them curiosity. Yeah well, when Kratos meets that God, He is going down.

@meatmenace8887

Жыл бұрын

@@ar4imond bro is forgetting that god can snap kratos out of existence 💀

Fun Fact : in The Original Ending for GOW 3, The Devs were actually planning a universe crossover type event where different versions of Kratos from different god pantheons of different cultures team up to take down their respective gods. After this was all over, monotheism was born with the three versions of Kratos actually turning out to be the three wise men that visited Mary and Joseph that fateful night. I don't know how they could've or would've pulled that off at the time. But it low-key sounds pretty badass.

@jonathanathor117

Жыл бұрын

Man, imagine 3 buff dudes just visit your family to see you being born and then tell your family that you're destined for great things. Truly the blessed moment.

@wingedbeegoddess7392

Жыл бұрын

That sounds so dumb lmao

@WhatTopic2004

Жыл бұрын

@@wingedbeegoddess7392 🗿

@truegamer7245

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanathor117 Jesus was a jojo character

@samuru101

Жыл бұрын

@@truegamer7245 Jesus is a Jojo's character.

Given the ending of Valhalla, I think it’s sensible that Kratos would get along with Jesus if they ever met

As uncharacteristic as it looks, I really like that little art of Jesus taking the tattoo's, ashes, blades, and scars(I think) from Kratos. That's such a Jesus thing to do. Heartwarming too.

As a christian, the thought of Kratos and Atreus going to church on Sunday and beating everything up on Monday is funny to think about

@Blaze-bk7eq

Жыл бұрын

Someone suggested kratos and Jesus team up to fight satan! 😂

@V1_Ultrakiller

Жыл бұрын

@@Blaze-bk7eq Or maybe team up to fight the egyptian gods

@penguinlord3002

Жыл бұрын

Boy,put on your fancy clothes we are going to church.

@its_saber1525

Жыл бұрын

@@Blaze-bk7eq NOW THAT I WOULD PLAY

@xtr80

Жыл бұрын

Same

Kratos fighting Charlie will be one of the most epic cinematic death battle in history

@KevinBelmontLuna

Жыл бұрын

WOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAH BABY, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT; WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

@dragonfell5078

Жыл бұрын

Will Kratos be able to stand up to the Moistverse?

@stranger5011

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonfell5078 he has no chance other than just solve everything peacefuly

@FocksVR

Жыл бұрын

pokemon crossover 😳

@Baggerz182

Жыл бұрын

repent to God

I think it'd end up to be the most wholesome moment in the series.

@ClokworkGremlin

4 ай бұрын

Kratos feels the touch of forgiveness and breaks down crying and just lets everything out.

My idea: Kratos unknowingly travels to the biblical era to face the Egyptian pantheon as well as the resurrection of the old Greek gods that are living by Roman names. He fights his way through them and uncovers their plot to overthrow a new, more powerful god that they all fear and resent. Kratos, decides to help this new god, or rescue him to stop a deadly prophecy from happening. To his surprise, he learns that not only does this god predate all the others, but that He is the most powerful being of all, and that every other pantheons were once His servants who rebelled against Him. Kratos feels grief stricken when the chief evil deity convinces a mortal king to kill the young god, and Kratos feels like he failed, until three days later when the young God rises again. It is later revealed that for once Kratos is neither the destroyer nor the savior, but the one who needed rescuing. The new god, this Jesus, Son of God, embraces Kratos and forgives him of his sins. And Kratos ashes disappear from his skin and he truly knows peace. For gameplay purposes, Kratos now wages war against demons or demon possessed individuals and he travels the world spreading the good news about the One who forgave even a monster such as himself.

@wesleyquere4979

7 ай бұрын

Could be cool, though very clearly coming from a christian i assume? I could see Kratos going to the Latin pantheon to do something he doesn't want to, one last time, but the whole christian god being more powerful ,ancient ,all-knowing and full of love would by definition not work on a series that has become all about grey areas and unstable moral compass that must yet still be steered in the right direction, perfectly described by Kratos still saying "we must be better than this" after all that happened. Introducing a pure white and perfect character would in my opinion ruin everything, but making the christian god grey would *definitely* not work for sales.

@DebateEnjoyer

7 ай бұрын

@@wesleyquere4979 Christianity isn't the oldest religion dude, the Greek, Norse, Hindiusm, Zoroastrian etc etc all predate Christianity. Your idea is nice but the historical aspect is wrong I guess.

@wesleyquere4979

7 ай бұрын

I mean since christianity's whole thing starts in year 0 or around, it's extremely recent. Like society as a concept dates back to around 10 000 BC (as we know, of course), so even if you only take into account religions from sedentary people, or hell even just organized religions, that's still ten thousand years of time, and a good few religions. But christians are listening to a millenia old book and adhering to it's value, of course they'll be antiquated sometimes.@@DebateEnjoyer

@mrebarronmore8734

7 ай бұрын

@@DebateEnjoyer Actually it technically is, Although Christianity itself is a "Recent" religion it is considered to be part of a group known as the abrahamic religions. It is this group that god the father and a lot of Christianitys morals come from And it is both them the Muslims and the jews that are in this category Long with a handful of others. The main difference between Judaism and Christianity is put simply according to Christianity Jesus was the messiah, the son of god and the one Sent to save people from all sins Well the others don't believe Jesus is the one and to this day are still waiting for him. As for how old it is according to tax and other such although it is is named after Abraham He himself was just continuing on a religion that was going on for generations upon generations by that time. it is honestly The worship of the great spirit is one of the oldest religions right next to things like Gaia worship(We're shipping of the earth and everything of it above humanity).

@BillyBob-sm3ku

7 ай бұрын

@@DebateEnjoyer just like theologically YHWH is the oldest God since He created space time. All the others gods have beginnings.

I honestly think it would be really cool as a duology or trilogy where the first game is spent killing angels and stuff only to meet Jesus at the end and being forgiven, with the subsequent games having Kratos kill demons and stuff in order to kill Satan.

@strangeduckling

Жыл бұрын

God of War: Doom

@Oreca2005

Жыл бұрын

@@strangeduckling god of war : judgement

@michaelmcneill5647

Жыл бұрын

An Angel would be an awesome boss fight.

@nrem7611

Жыл бұрын

@@Oreca2005 God of War: Armageddon

@Smileyreal

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmcneill5647 even better: a biblically accurate angel, with the spinning rings of eyes and all.

I fully support the idea that Kratos allies with Jesus and they go around fighting evil together. Like imagine how cool it would be, especially if Jesus would do nothing but heal your wounds and convert the enemies

@WingMaster562

Жыл бұрын

Respawning would take 3 days though. Also no adventure/work at weekend. Though I bet Jesus would be handy with a whip, like driving away mechants.

@jackmichael2442

Жыл бұрын

@@WingMaster562 I think the three days was just for symbolism and fulfilling the prophecy. It didn't really take him 3 days to raise some kid and Lazarus. He also broke a lot of his own (or his Father's) laws like working on the Sabbath and eating with his disciples without washing their hands first. Healing would seem glitchy though because sometimes he heals you before you even know it, just like he heals people's loved ones before they even asked lmao.

@shanerooney7288

Жыл бұрын

He can also curse trees to death and waits a wells calling women sluts and bitches.

@enclavehere.7995

Жыл бұрын

@@jackmichael2442 main reason he broke some of those laws was to show that the old Mosaic law was coming to an end, and would be replaced with the new law described in the gospel.

@louisthewolf0816

Жыл бұрын

When the strongest fighter collaborates with the strongest healer

As an atheist i love the idea of a happy warm interaction between a selfless god, and Kratos.

@Vilgax00

6 ай бұрын

As a muslim,me to. There is also a fan made art about Guts(from berserk) hugging Jesus. İts just feels right.

@MuhammadUmair-gh2kk

5 ай бұрын

@@Vilgax00 we’re can I find it please.

@Vilgax00

5 ай бұрын

@@MuhammadUmair-gh2kk just search "You've Been Through A Lot Haven't You, Guts?"

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

Who is the selfish God? Jesus wasn't selfish, he was the complete opposite of it

@mEmory______

4 ай бұрын

@@thelordofthelostbraincells well yeah, that's what I said.

I could see the thing being that Jesus tended towards humility, so Jesus just repeatedly pops up in the game, and it basically takes Kratos until the end of the game to recognize what he is. I can't see Kratos converting, but I could see Kratos seeing Jesus not causing shit, and so they part of amicable terms.

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

So similar to the grave digger in the old g.o.w games? Except isn't a mad God. Spoilers the grave digger was actually Zeus in disguise. So when kratos crawled out of Hades for the first time, Zeus was encouraging kratos to continue on, "your battle isn't over yet". But then kratos opened Pandora's box and unleashed the evils into the world and drove Zeus mad with paranoia that kratos would continue the cycle of violence that Zeus "killed" his father.

Damn that photo of Jesus with the ashes of kratos wife and daughter with the caption got me teared up knowing how much kratos has been through

@appletreedog2953

Жыл бұрын

That is nothing compared to what Jesus went threw

@jobgonzalez380

Жыл бұрын

@@appletreedog2953 AMEN! I love the photo bc it is a wonderful testament to God's unrelenting love and mercy. It's not like he wants any of us to go to hell. That is a choice we made ourselves by denying the truth of the Gospel

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

That would be such a crazy but beautiful ending to his story too. Imagining Kratos just lumbering through the desert toward the end of a game and a man who you can't see his face cause the sun is blocking it out comes and just touches kratos as he's on his knees tired. And his ashes depart from his skin and the man just walks away

@ajarofpickles2826

Жыл бұрын

@@appletreedog2953 seeing as crucifixion is one of the most horrific deaths one could possibly imagine I would have to agree with you

@Vexxel256

Жыл бұрын

@@appletreedog2953 bro shut the fuck up, jesus had the high life bruh, kratos lost everything due to zeus, he was tricked into murdering his family, the ones that worshipped him, the spartans were all murdered. Jesus? He only got crucifixed once. Jesus never suffered a death of a loved once even once

I definitely think if Jesus was in a God of war game, he would be a supporting character who would help Kratos a lot.

@shizune_

Жыл бұрын

I'm very far behind the lore of God of War, but if Jesus can help Kratos out with trying to talk Athena out of Kratos' life, he would.

@jeusmarcomascarina4102

Жыл бұрын

but first they need to go Egypt and Babylonia to make the lore consistent flow.

@painvillegaming4119

Жыл бұрын

@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 that probably next after that China the aztecs and then the Abrahamic religion and there beast

@jackmichael2442

Жыл бұрын

Knowing Jesus, he'd obviously be the support Healer. Speaking of, remember that time when Kratos went to Freya for help because Atreus was sick? If he saw Jesus it would've been like: Kratos: “My son is sick, I need your help!” Jesus: “Return to your home in peace. Your son has been healed.” Kratos: “But you didn't- *Returns home and finds Atreus well, lmao.

@godblessmurica

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if anything, Kratos should be fighting cain or judas

Kratos stumbling upon Jesus, as a sage that asks him bothersome questions without a drop of malice or imposition and leading to introspective self-reflection, would be really dope.

@mdbgamer556

5 ай бұрын

I honestly think that would be the best portrayal of things. He doesn't get too deeply involved in Kratos' journey. He doesn't interrupt him from his path. He just has a talk with him and leaves him to think on things and make his own decisions. The most accurate depiction I can think of, honestly.

@seasnaill2589

3 ай бұрын

@@mdbgamer556 Yeah, some of the people in this comment section need to remember that humility was one of Jesus's stronger traits lmao

If this actually happens in the final GOW game,it would most certainly be the most emotional ending to any video game ever.

@vikingdrengenspiders7875

3 ай бұрын

It won’t They couldn’t make more then Except if he kills evil”gods”

I think kratos becoming Christian is silly, but him getting defeated by love and forgiveness would be hilarious

@TheBlueMatrix

Жыл бұрын

Actually I think it be interesting. Maybe not to become Christian but to learn about it giving more redemption to his already building character

@outrageddeer2101

Жыл бұрын

It's corny but if written well would be beautiful.

@BigKnecht

Жыл бұрын

It's not corny. Millions upon millions of brutal warrriors and pagan leaders have found christianity throughout history. You just don't know anything about anything so no wonder you can't imagine anything that the modern media industry doesn't put on Netflix.

@outrageddeer2101

Жыл бұрын

@@BigKnecht oh I know but bad writing is bad writing

@backstabboi4559

Жыл бұрын

I'm Christian and it's not silly Jesus is the way

The real question will Kratos fight Morgan Freeman?

@VERGIL00

Жыл бұрын

I get it

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

They would make us sleep with their voices

@deadmanrang

Жыл бұрын

HISHE reference

@minimanbeast1014

Жыл бұрын

What if morgan and gordan freeman team up

@anibalrodriguez2626

Жыл бұрын

@@deadmanrang Bruce Almighty reference

As a Christian, I approve of the idea of this.

If Kratos meeting Jesus, being forgiven for his sins, and converting to Christianity was real, God of War would be unironically remembered as the greatest and bravest franchise in the history of videogames, forever. No developer in this day and age has enough courage to do something like that.

@LilC1deep

7 ай бұрын

nah man its better to overblow cynicism on Christianity and make them evil somehow. On par with making evil Superman knock offs.

@breesybird9207

5 ай бұрын

It would be way more courageous to make Jesus evil or at least evil in Kratos’ eyes.

@ClokworkGremlin

4 ай бұрын

@@breesybird9207God as a villain. How original. Not like that hasn't been done over and over and over again for the last several decades in media or anything..

@breesybird9207

4 ай бұрын

@@ClokworkGremlin the Christian God hasn’t been a villain in anything mainstream and especially not Jesus so what the hell are you talking about.

@nightmare3711

4 ай бұрын

@@breesybird9207 Rick and Morty, Family Guy, arguably Bruce Almighty.. I'm sure the list goes on.

kratos never ran around just killing gods, he only really beefed with zeus and ares. everyone else was just in the way and being dicks so he killed them too

@catodes1295

Жыл бұрын

Most people seem to have forgotten that and labeled him as a godslaying maniac running around

@revolvingworld2676

Жыл бұрын

@@catodes1295 Honestly before I played the games thats what I thought too

@Willgame21

Жыл бұрын

Playing the first three series and yeah thats basically that. Kratos wanting to get revenge on ares for making him kill his family. And zues became a prick because of ares death. Kratos would just talk to other gods who arent hostile at first like the god of smithering Edit: WELP I GUESS I SHOULDVE FINISHED THE GAME BEFORE COMMENTING THIS

@DoctorNemmo

Жыл бұрын

History of my life, man

@melutox

Жыл бұрын

@@Willgame21 tbh Hephaestus in the original GOW games wasn't really considered an enemy until he tried to kill Kratos... so I guess that's on him for messing with the literal pantheon-slayer that is Kratos

Honestly Kratos being forgiven by the son of God would be wholesome moment fr since he is trying to make up for it despite slaughtering a pantheon of jerks

@bloodangel19

Жыл бұрын

But didn't the Christian god say other gods were a big no no? Wouldn't that make stuff a bit...tense?.

@joey.sportsedits

Жыл бұрын

Imagine that at the end of the final game

@bladezgaming4635

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodangel19 well that part was actually a propaganda by the priest in order to gain power which is also the reason why religion now has small to no power on politics.

@bloodangel19

Жыл бұрын

@@bladezgaming4635 ain't it one of the 10 rules that sit at the base of Christianity and Judaism?

@Yes-kb5yv

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodangel19 Probably, but they could work around like "if you worship me then just worship me no one else" so like they wouldn't bother anyone else who isn't errr Jesus's believer or something. Speaking as a Catholic who loves God of War btw

Honestly, if they played their cards right and just make a single game with Christianity as the religion, could be cool. As long as they don’t decide God is evil and we see Kratos storming heaven since then that would piss off some people. If they had it where Kratos sees a benevolent god that cares for his people and have him meet Jesus. That could be a cool meeting. Just have Kratos fight demons, fallen angels, Nephilim, Levithan, Lucifer, or other famous demons or creatures from the Bible. You could have a very interesting story and hell, if you have Jesus forgive Kratos of his sins from Greece, it could even potentially make Christians happy about it.

@osirisjohnson5165

7 ай бұрын

Who cares if it would piss off people. People are pussies now days

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

Isn't Christianity part of the whole Abrahamic faiths? So there's *TONS* of religious lore and characters/demons and other host and supernatural entities m

I'd like to envision the encounter between Kratos & Jesus would go like this: Every now and again Kratos would encounter this random guy on his travels, the first time he meets him he's a shepherd and helps him find a missing lamb. The second time he invites kratos to dine with his friends, but Kratos refuses because he's currently in the middle of a quest. The final time would be at the end of the game, when he finds the man sitting on what he at first assumes is a log. They talk for a bit and the man gets up to resume his journey. Kratos goes to lift the 'log' but finds he can't, only to be shocked when the man lifts it onto his back revealing it to be a CROSS. Kratos asks how and/or why the man is carrying such a burden. The man merely smiles at Kratos and says: So you no longer have to. The scene ends with the man (Jesus) walking off with the cross on his back and Kratos staring after him... A few seconds later, Kratos moves to follow.

@spherelife4833

4 ай бұрын

This sounds like a fuckin cinematic masterpiece, good idea.

Kratos Fighting a biblically accurate angel would be horrifying

@cardescomedioses3674

Жыл бұрын

ha ha i got a phrase that fits perfectly "my god.. if this are the creatures of god how will the creatures of satan be? ¡what did we do to deserve this!?!? (image of jesus crucified) oh right fair enough -el geek furioso de la literatura

@ratboy5761

Жыл бұрын

That'd be fucking sick actually

@nrw64

Жыл бұрын

Or the other Angels like Michael or Something and the Kings of hell, satan, the Antichrist etc

@leonartha03

Жыл бұрын

that would be amazing

@snipermonkey8665

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what Bayonetta does

As someone who hasn't played God of War and hasn't gone to church regularly in forever, I can say that Kratos meeting Jesus would probably just be a therapy session.

@MegaGaming11

Жыл бұрын

Jesus: And how did that make you feel? Kratos, leaning back in a recliner, tears streaming down his face: ... So incredibly angry. Atreus: Dad what the fuck?

@Rhino-Prime

Жыл бұрын

Jesus the God of therapy

@sirballsfitzroy9294

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@wealthybone2990

Жыл бұрын

You should play God of War I absolutely recommend it but church that's your choice.

@Remembering1453

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHa. True

Kratos: I will show you no mercy Jesus: I am Mercy

Say what you will about Christianity, but the idea of a man who lives on beyond death and is endlessly loving and forgiving to all is a very comforting idea.

I can imagine Jesus offering to bear Kratos' sins as he did for mankind, but Kratos says: "No. These sins are mine alone to bear."

@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon

Жыл бұрын

That's pride.

@PawanKumar-rb2pi

Жыл бұрын

That's how it should be. I disagree with everyone saying that crayons should be defeated by love bcz that bs doesn't exist.

@isplash3s998

Жыл бұрын

@@PawanKumar-rb2pi an act of love is often more impactful than an act of war. Imagine you're trying to kill someone and even when they're in pain they're constantly praying for you in your face. Even a psychopath will feel some type of resentment.

@nathanosthegamr2227

Жыл бұрын

@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon no that's not

@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanosthegamr2227 Yes, it is.

Kratos: So your just gonna let me kill you? Jesus: Yes.

@JavierGarcia-er9ei

Жыл бұрын

Also Jesus: and then forgive you

@sixtenalin

Жыл бұрын

@@JavierGarcia-er9ei He can't forgive you if you don't want to believe that he is the Son of God who died for your sins.

@JavierGarcia-er9ei

Жыл бұрын

@@sixtenalin but I am Christian

@cckiller0053

Жыл бұрын

@@sixtenalin Well technically he can but either way God will have you suffer the consequences. It's definitely not a forgive and forget moment. You can forgive someone and punish them at the same time, it's pretty much tying the strings

@theStoryteller402

Жыл бұрын

Kratos: now this is no fun, how about i kill your enemys Jesus: whats your name? Kratos: eh... Peter Jesus: well, peter... lets hone that blade for more righteous things, till then, lets go fishing.... **they then go kill a leviithan.***

That comic at 00:36 is so ancient. I still remember finding it. Makes me feel so old.

If or when this happens I genuinely think it would be the last god of war for Kratos' story. Truly accepting his actions as past mistakes and letting Jesus or God help him find a more peaceful path to walk his final days as a warrior dad and into a more fatherly and family helping god such as Tyr strived to be in GOWR. (emphasis on caring and helping for Tyr since well you already know the family part when it came to the Aesir)

The fact they planned for Kratos to end up a wise man is a pretty funny tie in as well.

@thelordofthelostbraincells

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, that was the original ending for g.o.w 3.

@theStoryteller402

Жыл бұрын

and its perfect too.... i can imagine, he and adult loki going together.

@thecringeprophet

Жыл бұрын

They ended up canning that ending just to make more god of wars.

@sonofthebearking3335

Жыл бұрын

@@thecringeprophet it may not be too late... what if we get wholesome Boi saga that still delivers to the very end, AND that after too?

@thecringeprophet

Жыл бұрын

@@sonofthebearking3335 that would be astoundingly based

I feel like Jesus could make an appearance, but only shortly as an NPC Kratos meets in his journey rather than a boss, someone he talks to and recieves help from.

@ChunkSchuldinga

Жыл бұрын

Plot twist: Jesus was manipulating Kratos to defeat all of his gentile enemies, and in one final act Kratos kills his friend and settles down as the Prophet Mohammed.

@KentVigilante

Жыл бұрын

@@ChunkSchuldinga Kratos isn't a pedo tho that has like a dozen underage wives.

@silentnquiet

Жыл бұрын

@@KentVigilante uneducated fool being offensive out of nowhere

@adrianopandolfo

Жыл бұрын

@@KentVigilante I'm not defending the connotations of early-Muslim culture, but to my knowledge, despite having underage wives, he waited until they were old enough to have intimacy with them. It's still kinda weird as fuck, but it's not as vitriolic & horrendous as it's made to be. Child-brides are a shitty thing to exist, but a lot of contemporary societies had them 1500+ years ago.

@baligong3592

Жыл бұрын

What if they have Kratos fight Jesus, but instead of provoking him like Thor, it's trying to calm his Evergrowing Rage?

If they were to make a game about this, I would enjoy Kratos going on an existentialist journey experiencing misunderstandings and ignorances when encountering the God of the Bible. Going through many tests of whether or not God is good by encountering physical manifestations of philosophical questions and making him doubt that is true. Only to then have those doubts destroyed by understanding the events that take place in the Bible a lot more clearly. Also understanding the deep complexity behind a seemingly simple God and his own son. This is just a journey I’ve gone through as a Christian and personally I’d find this to be very interesting.

I think people are missing the potential of a GoW game set during the Harrowing of Hell (when Jesus descended into Hell to redeem the souls of righteous Old Testament figures, such as Adam and Eve). Maybe Kratos first sees him as a radiant silhouette which frees him from his shackles, setting him on a Dante's Inferno-meets-DOOM Eternal adventure to reunite with his family in heaven; the various fallen angel lieutenants of Satan could serve as boss fights, and the "Ghost of Yeshua" (Jesus Christ) could be a Virgil-style guide throughout the underworld. That would actually be a really cool concept for a God of War game that doesn't cross the line in my opinion. I'm just imagining blaring argent metal Gregorian hymns while Kratos battles a giant fly monster Beelzebub amid the storms and icy mud of the Circle of Gluttony. You could even introduce a plot twist where the vision of Jesus you've been talking to was actually Lucifer trying to use Kratos as a secret weapon against his father.

@thelordofthelostbraincells

4 ай бұрын

So, similar to Dante's inferno the game?

I adore how unbelievably wholesome most of the kratos and jesus memes are

@egg3228

Жыл бұрын

It helps with the Ragnorak and 2018 game’s focus on Kratos’ transition to becoming more wholesome 😊

@tryme9740

Жыл бұрын

Jesus would help Kratos forgive himself and work with Kratos to become a better version of himself

@basedmugigaming

Жыл бұрын

Kill Satan? God wouldn’t let Satan get off that easy.

@Trathien-

Жыл бұрын

@@basedmugigaming so you agree that God is evil

@basedmugigaming

Жыл бұрын

@@Trathien- How would God having Satan suffer for eternity for he did as a punishment make God evil?

If I remember correctly, it was said either in a tweet, or in a part of the lore somewhere, that Kratos would become one of the three wise men who visited Jesus at his birth. yes one of THE WISEMEN!

@blank54620

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, all 3 of them are supposed to be kratos from different mythologies

@astra3310

Жыл бұрын

I mean, experience IS the greatest source of Wisdom…

@thelordofthelostbraincells

Жыл бұрын

That was supposed to be the original ending of g.o.w 3. Kratos would finish of the Greek gods, and caused a power vacuum. Which would cause the Norse and Egyptian MYTHOLOGIES to come on to attempt to take control, then kratos would've met his Norse and Egyptian versions, they would fight together to kill the Norse and Egyptian gods. And then they would've became the 3 wise men to witness the birth of Jesus Christ.

@anumic_

9 ай бұрын

@@thelordofthelostbraincells that woulda been sick

@jeepmega629

7 ай бұрын

@@thelordofthelostbraincellsSo the three wisemen who met Jesus are supposed to be redeemed warriors from other mythologies? That’s sick as heaven!

I’m just gonna imagine Kratos and Jesus teaming up to beat the shit out of Satan

I think kratos should take down satan if he ever goes to Christianity, and at the end kratos’s soul can rest at last, giving an end to a beautifully written character

@Golems_wrath

4 ай бұрын

Nah satan Jesus and Kratos destroy Jesus’s evil father and they all live in peace all tyrannical gods dead XD Jesus takes the throne and no more he’ll or suffering

@vherox3826

3 ай бұрын

Thats not how christianity nor rly any other abrahamic religion works @@Golems_wrath

Speaking of Kratos and Christianity, originally the planned route for our local angry man was for him to join forces with his Norse and Egyptian counterparts, destroy their respective pantheons, and become the Three Wise Men who gave gifts to Jesus when he was first born.

@MrGamelover23

Жыл бұрын

Glad they didn't go with that, that would have been pointless because Jesus didn't even do anything to wrong him.

@candyman_315

Жыл бұрын

well this could kinda still work

@RebelWvlf

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGamelover23 but his dad definitely did pretty lot wrong. In Bible he goes on murder spree because he doesn't like "infidels", even ordering and his worshipers to do the same.

@user-yw1nl6sk7y

Жыл бұрын

@@RebelWvlf lol no God had ,compared to zeus and Odin a lot of reasons to do this and even then it was a last resort, like Sodoma and Gomora God told that even if 10 good people would exist in the city the city would be saved ,but apparently the only good family was sarounded with the locals trying to kill them so then God had to resort to the destruction of the city and even then he escorted the family to safety. The enemy should be the devil since he is the one that does the things he does for greater evil,if ever kratos would go to Christianity he would meet the devil and he would be manipulated but after seeing the good he would realise that the devil lied to him at the end he would fight him and the devil will escape thus also confirming to kratos that only Gods prophecy is right

@Lucky-jg2on

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if that really was the case and kratos just gifts baby Jesus his brutally acquired war trophies probably still soaked in god blood, then after offering up all the items he just adds one more war trophy into the mix, it being Helios' head

The thing is even younger Kratos is not inherently antagonistic with all gods, even the Greek ones. - He was horrified that Athena sacrificed herself on his blade to protect Zeus. - He was actually pretty chill with Hephaestus until Hephaestus tried to kill him. - He was fully prepared to leave Hera to wallow in her drunken stupor until she called Pandora a whore. - He would have let Helios live after defeating him if Helios hadn't tried to trick him into touching the Flame of Olympus which would have killed him. - He tried to dissuade Hercules from fighting him altogether. - And Aphrodite.... well he definitely did not kill her. His only goal was to take down Zeus, everyone else just kept getting in his way which lead to their deaths. If faced with a pacifist like Jesus or a Hindu God like Ganesha then there would be no actual antagonism between them, unless they were somehow preventing him from completing a very important task at which point things could get heated but older Kratos is also much more open to finding alternative ways to a solution. He'll probably end up being a little gruff and surly and not fully trust them but he would not be the one to throw the first punch.

@ShadoFXPerino

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they'll team up against Jesus's dad

@Huvpalto

Жыл бұрын

I fully agree… except the girl crushed in the wheel springs to mind. And the guy who offered his bow as a reward for freeing him but kratos burned him alive and took the bow. Oh and the wounded guy in gow2 who cratos used to break another wheel mechanism while he was begging for mercy. Oh and the solder in the cage burned in the mechanism in pandoras temple. And the guy in hydras mouth who Kratos literally said “I didn’t come back for you” before taking the key and throwing the old guy down. And some of that was even before the whole business with finding out about his brother and being fucked over. Which, again, unfortunately doesn’t come up much because apparently it wasn’t fully planned beforehand (Kratos is surprised when Athena tells him Zeus is his father, yet, chronologically, this happens AFTER ghost of Sparta so his mother already told him before dying) so in 2 and 3 it SEEMS like his main point for revenge is being angry at Zeus for stabbing him, which he only did to stop him murdering people in that city for no reason other than boredom and spite. You are right about all the gods you mentioned. But I think Kratos is just a dick tbh. At least was a dick to normal mortal people which is ironic. Which is just as well, otherwise the redemption ark in the two latest gows wouldn’t make much sense and have that great of an emotional impact. I guess as much of fans of the gow series we are, we can agree that writing (meaning consistent logic and arks throughout the series, because each game by its own had great touching moments like the garden in chains of Olympus which is brilliant interactive storytelling example with the QTE showing it requires great strength to push his daughter away) was never the strongest part.

@Glitch-lk6sh

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadoFXPerino what did he do

@jaxmillion

Жыл бұрын

He also straight up told hermes he wasn't worth his time.

@Deathmare235

Жыл бұрын

Nah I’m pretty sure he wanted to kill Helios for his head also the reason why he didn’t want to fight Hermes was cause he couldn’t be bothered to

He meets Jesus. And finally comes to peace with the past. Full redemption and forgiveness.

I haven't seen alot of comments point this out. But in older dev interviews and implied in one of the murals in the older games as an easteregg, Kratos was implied to either be one of the three-wise-men who oversaw the birth of Jesus, or after he killed the Greek, Norse, and Egyptian panthenons, he would actually be a symbol for all three-wise men.

@naenae2350

4 ай бұрын

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what kind of gift would kratos gift jesus

@alienatedpoet1766

4 ай бұрын

@@naenae2350 I hate to be boring and slightly preachy like this. But since Kratos' character arcs is forgiving himself, I think it would literally be the gift of forgiveness. Just like when he set hope free in Greece, he'd give forgiveness to Jesus. And that would lead to Jesus forgiving all humans for our sins. Either that or a hammer because Jesus was a carpenter and Kratos once used a hammer.

@idunno9251

4 ай бұрын

@@alienatedpoet1766 Kratos walking up to Baby Jesus and just handing him a huge mallet like "you're gonna need this"

The Idea of Kratos fighting other pantheons was originally an idea from God of War 3. Where it would end with the three wise men following the star to get to baby Jesus. Kratos was originally gonna kill the egyptians, norse, and chinese before he killed all the ancient gods to lead into Jesus.

@MrGamelover23

Жыл бұрын

Wait what? You mean they brought up the idea in God of War 3? I haven't played it yet, I was playing the collection and then Genshin Impact took over my life.

@hochigaming14yearsago90

Жыл бұрын

Damn, imagine if he went to the americas to meet or fight Quetzalcoatl or to Mesopotamia to meet Gilgamesh or Anzu

@THESHRIMP209

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGamelover23 it was the plan for the ending but I believe they scrapped it due to time constraints or something on the lines of that

@Mystery-pd6jc

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGamelover23 you passed up one of the greatest hack and slash games of all time, one which contains a pretty compelling mythos and leads directly into the new games, in favour of the anime gatcha Breath of the Wild 😭

@Ttegegg

Жыл бұрын

Would the naitive ameirican gods be a side quest? Coyote and ravens seem like a reasonable reaccuring characters

Like to imagine one of the things that made him chill out and start to accept his past move on was meeting Jesus

@painvillegaming4119

Жыл бұрын

That would be crazy

@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034

Жыл бұрын

A prequel game about Kratos encountering Jesus would possibly work to mellow him out, especially if the antagonists here are not the gods, but perhaps... demons?

@thebigvega4415

Жыл бұрын

duuuuuuude that's a great idea. It'sthe perfect way to bring christianity into the saga and having the less amounts of people angry about it as possible

@painvillegaming4119

Жыл бұрын

@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034 leviathan

@jasonbelstone3427

Жыл бұрын

Just like with Jacob, they wrestled. Kratos technically won the match, and Jesus technically cheated.

0:30 "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."

The original idea for God of war 3 had kratos as one of the 3 wise men at Jesus birth so they did think about connecting them at one point.

Im not sure how big of a game it would be but i would indeed love to see their interactions. Kratos harboring all the regret of his past actions and as soon as kratos realizes that jesus isnt like any of the pantheons he had met he would probably help jesus spread his message. More so i love the idea of jesus saying "you...are forgiven..." and raiseing his hand as the ashes and the blades fade away off his body

@Asimov_

Жыл бұрын

The ash being wiped clean is an actually awesome idea

@imam5623

Жыл бұрын

@RockstarGames

@HawkOfKrypton

Жыл бұрын

@@Asimov_ I would cry rivers if that actually happened ngl

@WhatTopic2004

Жыл бұрын

This has to be the ending of god of war, Kratos is forgiven and finally feels at peace with himself

@daks5122

Жыл бұрын

And then the inquisition comes through and decapitated him for not being Christian enough while the preachers force atreus into the choir. Christians still seething

Tbh that would be very interesting but given that norse Kratos is much more reasonable and even a bit pacifist just makes me think that an encounter between him and Jesus would just result in a conversation, norse Kratos never really sought after any of the norse gods and never really attacked them first, he just defended Atreus and himself. But again, that would be very interesting to see lol

@Zoran69

Жыл бұрын

Yup, if we are going by the game. There will not be a fight. But if we are going by a 'what if', then there will be a fight so long as the Almighty willed it and allows it. So if the Almighty allows it, well it's part of his plan for something and it cannot be his own destruction (not like Kratos can even match the Almighty), but it must be to get rid of the other false gods trying to take his children away from him. That makes sense 😅

@crestfallensunbro6001

Жыл бұрын

i feel like he would have a similar role as fraya in the first hald of the first game, somone who they meet by chance and exchange minor favours with

@KentVigilante

Жыл бұрын

@@Zoran69 So basically Kratos will go from being Zeus's monster to the monster of Jesus.

@Zoran69

Жыл бұрын

@@KentVigilante Yeah 😅 Lucifer and Micheal The Arc Angel know Jesus as their King or Boss so... Why not have Kratos be the one to take care of the other gods 😆

Theres two reasons why this will not happen. 1. Levels of power. 2. Lack of story conflict.

I feel like that if Jesus was in this universe, he’d almost be like Mimir from 2018. If he was brought into this universe as a character who could interact with Kratos, the best path forward would be as a mere helpful character who helps Kratos become stronger in terms of his code/character. ( Note; Kratos is Canon to Greek myth as the god of strength. And his games could be viewed as his martial strength and then later; his strength of character.) If the two did encounter each other, then it could be a form of strength that we haven’t seen yet. I personally believe that if Kratos is to go to Egypt next, after his most recent arc; having him start to murder gods again like with Greece would be a step back for him. The most reasonable after this I think is to have him show strength of will. Have the challenge be to keep to his ideals and to not stoop to his old ways or take an easier path as he gets older. If this happens and the Egypt story is resolved; having him go to, say the Celtic mythology and having him encounter that Pantheon and potentially even a conflict with Christianity could be a great way to intro Christ into this story, and have Kratos then focus on strength of leadership against whatever crisis that exists within that pantheon, with Jesus taking more of an advisory roll to help flesh his and Kratos’s character out more. I don’t know what the future holds, but if Santa Monica hears this kinda stuff and what the community is saying, I think this could be a cool storyline. I think there is a way to ultimately tell stories with this kind of setting and scenario in a way that is respectful, but to find it isn’t always easy. Either way, I look forward to the future, especially if this storyline happens.

That image of Jesus taking the ashes, tattoo and the Blades hits deep.

@DAEDAEANT

Жыл бұрын

That image goes hard fr

@martinjugolin2087

Жыл бұрын

I don't get why the tattoo, he shouldn't take the tattoo cause its a good representation of his lost brother

@twstudios8538

Жыл бұрын

@@martinjugolin2087 maybe it's because Kratos wants to COMPLETEY start over

@deussalt4479

Жыл бұрын

It's as deep as a drop of water in the salt flats.

@martinjugolin2087

Жыл бұрын

@@twstudios8538 I think that would be disrespectful to Deimos

You can make about 30000 sequels if Kratos inserts himself in hindu mythology though.

@meljunmercado220

Жыл бұрын

@DawnQuack best inf money glitch

@goncalocarneiro3043

Жыл бұрын

Infinite money glitch. Just keep exploring more pantheons.

@trollking7046

Жыл бұрын

Man hindu mytholodgy has a lot of cool shit

@subhajitbiswas9054

Жыл бұрын

Nah hindus will be pissed

@revanf3719

Жыл бұрын

well that just sounds like Asura's Wrath minus the sequels

"hey brother is it true about the time you fought somebody who never has killed anybody?" *"Yes"* *"He offered me wine"* "Have you defeated or killed him? I mean, the odds were in your favor" *"No"* *"He knew about me and has told he was willing to forgive"* *"So we stopped"* "Sheesh thats rare coming from a guy like you"

Considering the ending of the new Valhalla dlc… maybe Jesus will be there to help Kratos along the journey to forgive himself. … also watch Jesus just know Tyr as a homie or somethin

Now I'm imagining Kratos and Jesus teaming up to beat the shit outta some demon with Live And Learn playing.

@Spingerex

Жыл бұрын

Live and Learn fucking slaps ⭐👍

@Brucifer2

Жыл бұрын

"Hanging on the edge of tomorrow!!!!" and then the Biolizard dies.

@limpbizcoito2964

Жыл бұрын

Now that would be awesome. Everyone saying Kratos vs Jesus, but he doesn't need to kill only gods. When he was younger he was merciless, but now Kratos has grown. It would make much more sense if he was on Jesus' side, and not against him, and they fought the devil instead of each other.

They almost did add Jesus In God of War: Directors Live, David Jaffe and Cory Barlog mentioned their ending to God of War III. Interesting to note is that they also brought up the ending of the Three Wise Men. This storyline could have been dropped (or adapted, making the Three Wise Men become the Three Judges in God of War III), In the original draft by David Jaffe, the Three Wise Men were meant to be Kratos and his Norse and Egyptian counterparts, after they wiped out the Olympians, the Gods of Asgard and the Egyptian Pantheon. The final cutscene showed the Three Wise Men heading to the North Star resulting with the birth of Christianity.

@sonofthebearking3335

Жыл бұрын

Would be righteous 🤟 The three wise men truly being wise BECAUSE they've seen and done a thing or two, and each personally looking forward to all that the prophesied coming of Christ represents because their home pantheons took love, peace and justice for granted and it's time for something new.

@nolanhugghins7845

Жыл бұрын

Jesus prequel

@JakeBaldwin1

Жыл бұрын

That is actually really cool.

@RockSolitude

Жыл бұрын

That's a rather interesting ending. Could be quite thoughtful depending on how they would have done it.

@TheSergio1021

Жыл бұрын

I would love this so much. Especially cause it also means we get more time with Týr.

I feel like if anything, you’d fight the archangel and just immediately lose, get sent to Jesus, and he goes “yo, chill a bit, I forgive you, if you chill you can go back”

@shelbyspeaks3287

7 ай бұрын

Bro arcangel michel is a fucking beast, he defeated Iblis AND shaytan, the persian demon etc.

Imagine if Jesus is the one to take the Ashe’s off of kratos 🙏🏽

This was actually the scrapped story for the original plot for God Of War. Kratos is the one that actually starts the gears of Christianity and that's the reason why many of the Gods in the Bible are considered evil since most gods in God of War are evil or at least, villainous.

@ironpulcinella3586

Жыл бұрын

Fucking LOL So uh Checkmate atheists?

@lollllolll.

Жыл бұрын

If i remember specifically the original story was planned to go like this: Kratos kills Olympus, other gods (Egyptian, Slavic, Norse) try to gain control over the anarchy, Kratos convinces them to battle with eachother. All polytheistic pantheons die in the battle making way for Monotheism

@AlastorAltruistGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@lollllolll. even then, the game would’ve been too long; on paper, it’s fantastic, in practice, it would be so long, but I’m glad they kept the story as is. And as for Norse mythology, I’m glad we see Kratos grow as a person.

@LoftyLoo

Жыл бұрын

If I'm not mistaken, Kratos was originally intended to end up as one/all of the wise men.

I feel like Kratos and Jesus would be homies

@jellymatsuryuka6853

Жыл бұрын

I mean they would, it's not in character for Kratos to fight anyone but demons in Christianity

@voidnoidoid

Жыл бұрын

Totally

@-sussusamogus-7013

Жыл бұрын

If you know anything about the character of christ you'd realize that's probably not the case, it would be more like a father son relationship with the son hating his father

@deygnymedes9827

Жыл бұрын

Jesus would just end up like Mimir, just without the head being cut off part.

@Sunky_real

Жыл бұрын

@@deygnymedes9827 he’d still be chill about it

“DESTROY MY SINS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS”

Maybe Kratos and Jesus can team up against the roman gods, yes ik that the greek and roman gods are basically the same but I think it'll be interesting. Imagine for Kratos's finally game he has to go against his old enemies.

It would actually be a pretty great end for Kratos, to run into Jesus, after all Kratos has done, and be forgiven Even an emotional end where Jesus offers to take on the ash and pain from Kratos so he can go and live a normal life. It would be really touching, but something tells me _certain_ types of people would treat this like the greatest of crimes and not let it happen. Edit: I do like how, true to my prediction, this comment has drawn the ire of people who hate and misunderstand the Christian mythos so much they just have to speak up about how stupid they think this is lol While at the same time some of them utterly getting the Christian mythos so terribly wrong

@SerenityOceania

Жыл бұрын

Jesus taking on the ashes of Kratos dead family goes way harder than it has any right to be. I need it now

@alexanderrahl7034

Жыл бұрын

@Serenity if it's the choice between "killing god" and "Jesus taking on the ashes of Kratos' family while forgiving him/giving him peace." I know exactly which one would be more impactful lol

@jakelee7083

Жыл бұрын

The problem is whether that's thematically and religiously appropriate. Using the name and image of Jesus for your own purposes without having any deep understanding is literally cultural appropriation. I don't think Jesus would take on Kratos' ashes to simply live a normal life because that's not what Jesus calls Christians to do.

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

@@jakelee7083 If someone likes your culture so much they make it part of themself, where is the bad thing in it ?

@ghidorah4695

Жыл бұрын

@@jakelee7083 Cultural appropriation isn't a real thing. At least not in the way you're describing.

Surprised you didn't mention the fact that one of the GoW writers said that the Three Wise Men were supposed to be Kratos, Tyr, and the Egyptian God of War after their respective pantheons had fallen.

@Kinobambino

Жыл бұрын

No. They were all going to be kratos from each of those pantheons

@thelordofthelostbraincells

Жыл бұрын

No it wasn't, it was supposed to be Greek kratos, Norse kratos, and Egyptian kratos.

@doomguy.23frommars60

9 ай бұрын

When they mean the God of war from those lands its months and Tyr not different versions of kratos this isn't spiderman lmao

I would absolutely love an interaction with kratos and jesus

Imagine Jesus and Kratos vs Satan

You know, whether you’re Christian or not, the stories in the Bible are absolutely epic and there needs to be a game about them Wait I just had an idea, what I’d you could choose which version you wanted to do in settings, like the subtitles could be either traditional or king James

@sonicthehedgehog1606

Жыл бұрын

How would that work?

@detomnz2024

Жыл бұрын

@@sonicthehedgehog1606 different campaigns?

@shadow_1363

Жыл бұрын

there is a ps2 game, the bible game

@BanjoFret

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow_1363 didn’t know that lol, but I was talking about nowadays with modern graphics and stuff, it’d be dope

@shadow_1363

Жыл бұрын

@@BanjoFret yeah ofc, just saw an opportunity to talk about one of my childhood games

I feel like a meeting between the two of them would end in Jesus, forgiving Kratos, and Kratos crying in both sadness and happiness.

@theheroofmagicical628

Жыл бұрын

yes

@jackcassidy9963

Жыл бұрын

But like... why would he ever do that, he doesn't require forgiveness from a being like that. He's spent centuries doing that on his own, building bonds, creating a family of his own, and overall doesn't need some rando God to tell him that he's forgiven

@commonmockery1074

Жыл бұрын

Because even still, Kratos is still haunted by his past actions. And there was an original idea involving Kratos, a Norse God, and an Egyptian God being the three wise men who see Jesus’ birth.

@themilkman9451

Жыл бұрын

Yes because Kratos needs forgiviness from a random desert dude he never met before instead of the millions of people he wronged.

@silenthero2795

Жыл бұрын

@@jackcassidy9963 I mean, for the first time of his life, the top dog of a religion is being so friendly to him that it gives him pause that not all religion figureheads are like Zeus or Odin.

Honestly, I feel like Jesus would he more like a friend of Kratos, like a companion and emotional support.

Kratos meets Jesus, they talk because Kratos is a calm and reasonable person, he then helps the Catholics fight hell, and God cleanses Kratos of all his sins and brings him back to his family, forgetting Atreus, and then Atreus is then introduced by Kratos to his family, and they now live happy in Heaven's paridise

@shelbyspeaks3287

8 ай бұрын

Bro that would be so cool if his family was restored...

Kratos redeeming himself and becoming a christian its so weird yet so wholesome

@lollllolll.

Жыл бұрын

It's because Kratos has been through literal hell (2 times by now.) So watching such a broken man finally get sone mental rest is just satisfying

@PsychoMoFoGaming

Жыл бұрын

God removes the ashes from his skin and unbinds the chains.

@JustaDislikeButton

Жыл бұрын

@@PsychoMoFoGaming maybe the red turns into gold with his skin now being slightly tanner?

@PsychoMoFoGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@JustaDislikeButton mmm...yes

@martinjugolin2087

Жыл бұрын

No, it sounds too agenda like and cringe. Kratos would disagree a lot with Jesus, specially with the "put the other cheek"

With how wise and almost pacifistic kratos has become, i highly doubt he would ever attack jesus when he is generally recognized as a bastion of goodness

@Ghost-yc7eq

Жыл бұрын

He would kill jesus's dad tho.

@obad7633

Жыл бұрын

@@Ghost-yc7eq in Christianity jesus is God. hes called the son of god only cause hes human form. its kinda confusing but jesus would be god in a humanoid form.

@Ghost-yc7eq

Жыл бұрын

@@obad7633 yeah i know, its basically hard to interpret if u dont think about it more, basically, jesus god and holy spirit are at the end one being which is god, idk i just usually seperate jesus becazse god gave himself a name yachve, idk how u type it in english tho so i might just butchered it 😂 it would be interesting to see kratos getting it on with modern religions but i dont think the world is ready for that. Most of people are still stuck in old ages when it comes to religion

@Golems_wrath

Жыл бұрын

@@Ghost-yc7eq yeah the Christian god is an a$$ as much as Zeus hell even worse than Zeus. Lol I want a game where Jesus AND kratos destroy the evil Christian god.

@TheSergio1021

Жыл бұрын

"Wait, killing pagan gods was just a path to finding Christianity?" "Always has been."

Imagine Kratos vs Slavic gods ( Svarog, Rod, Perun, Lada.....)

I honestly absolutely love this idea of Kratos finding Jesus and learning how to forgive himself and so much more. We need more of these kinds of crossovers fr 😂

@ClokworkGremlin

4 ай бұрын

Kratos feeling the touch of forgiveness and then bawling his eyes out like a baby would be the most healing thing.

@DM-nx7tu

4 ай бұрын

Exactly brother 👏🏽