*VOTE FOR THE TOP 100 KPOP SONGS OF 2023!* Hey guys! I'm working on (2) videos highlighting the top 100 kpop songs of 2023, one for girl group releases and one for boy group releases. Bbbut...I need some help deciding! Please submit your votes for top 100 kpop songs of the year in the forms below, and the top 100 songs with the most votes will be featured in an official countdown video on my channel! *VOTE FOR THE TOP 100 KPOP BOY GROUP RELEASES OF 2023:* forms.gle/zxH2C4Nd24Z3fBix5 *VOTE FOR THE TOP 100 KPOP GIRL GROUP RELEASES OF 2023:* forms.gle/d3Gm3gtVnxq6LvTm9

I honestly agree with the first one so much. I personally feel like a song should be at least 200 seconds long, or 3 minutes and 20 seconds, so having releases less that 3 minutes is an easy way to disappoint me, and that's not mentioning those that edge closer to 2.

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Yess I'm so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I remember when it used to just be the standard for songs to be around 3 mins 15 - 30 seconds long!

@iseokmins

5 ай бұрын

i was disappointed that enhypen title tracks were getting shorter and shorter 😭

for number 4 it also annoys me that some dance choreografies are definetly aimed at the easy social media trend type style than actually interesting and fitting choreos. For number 5, as an artist myself, it sometimes just happens that you come up with a similar idea. While in my case i do check if a similar style is in a currently competing market, it can just happen, especially if ideas arent THAT intricate/creative. Money and time also play a role here, because if artists arent given resources , there is a limit of how much depth you can put into an idea and make it more standout from another.

The thing I’ve always wondered regarding the airport situation: where and how tf do Korean fans find out when Kpop idols’ flights happen? Like it’s actually creepy that Kpop fans know such private information and choose to breach it by traveling to the airport to film them when official news stations like Newsen and Dispatch already do the job for them? Do they not have anything better to do? I also would never go the airport cuz I legit have better things to do than that, so I’m with you

@valeriai.38

5 ай бұрын

It’s so weird I know, but a few years ago I read somewhere that their flight schedules are shared to fan sites and the info is leaked so Korean fans know when the artist is there, tho idk where I heard that so take it with a grain of salt

@ly_smileylass1427

5 ай бұрын

As of the Present Era, Both a Creepy Englishman Whose Stage Name is "Oli London" (Who is Notorious for Overdoing Plastic Surgery On to his Own Face in Order to Fully Have the Same Facial Appearance as BTS Jimin) and the Hateful 🇩🇪 "Toad" (Who is Notorious for his Own Obsession Towards Twice Nayeon) Seems to Be Disappeared from the Public 👀 as of the Present Era. (For Unknown Reasons.) Glad that Both European Guys' Supposed Disappearance is a Blessing to Everyone at the Moment.

@kingtaeyeonie7908

4 ай бұрын

There are actually fanpages operating from korea who are paid by the companies to be at airports or even follow the artists to make and publish photos. Usually they have expensive camera equipment semi-financed by the companies/management as well. And ofc they get infos and even plane tickets to follow the idols and do their "job"

For #1 and #2, I love New Jeans but their new album just frustrates me because it sounds unfinished. It could absolutely be a stylistic choice but it just seems lazy to me because they know fans will buy it anyway 😅

@user-mc4ju4r

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the song would’ve been so much better if it was longer

@rosepetaIs

5 ай бұрын

@@user-mc4ju4rget up was a crime. It was like 46 seconds long corrected short to long

@K-oreo

5 ай бұрын

@@rosepetaIsactually 36 seconds long 😭🙏

@rosepetaIs

5 ай бұрын

@@K-oreo NOOOOO

@SBBunny93

5 ай бұрын

lol most kpop albums feel unfinished.

6:35 yessss im sooo tired of hearing "x idol is copying x idol/ x group" when 99.9% of the time that idol/group dont own that thing or start a trend etc you know?

Can we bring back having atleast a 6 track mini for your debut album because it shows how diverse the group is right away, showcase their vibe more clear and give us more music to enjoy specially as a fan that doesn’t stan on debut it helps make a judgement if I want to stan or not, can we also bring back rookies looking like rookies because it was so fun seeing their growth over the years

Agree with everything except for the comeback teasing for that long IF it's done well. I follow ATEEZ and their comeback maps are epic. You're engaged and locked in for six weeks of new and exciting bits to look forward to. It's definitely nothing like the sparse teasing method some artists use which I agree is boring and doesn't built up excitement. I also hope that the airport stalking stops and that companies make an effort to better protect their artists. (and every day I pray for Pannchoa getting hit by that one lawsuit that ends them all)

In regards to Number 4, I feel like the only dance challenge for a k-pop song this year that wasn't made to get views and clout was "The First Snow" challenge. Now, I am an Exo-L, but I truly believe that this challenge was the one not to have any major label push behind it. For one, it's for a song from TEN YEARS ago and a B-SIDE at that. Not a title track, but a b-side. When it was originally released it never got any major promotion aside from a few music show performances, but that's it. Obviously, Exo's winter releases are a staple in Korea and have been for years, so when it does snow for the first time in Korea, the song starts to trend. However, in the last few years it has never trended like this. I mean, the challenge wasn't even made by SM or the exo members, but a tiktoker (Hwang Sehun is his name btw!), who simply made it for fun. And soon enough, everyone single person jumped on it, from actors, to other idols, to everyday people. And not just in Korea, but in other countries like China, Thailand, Japan, and the Phillipines. And what did SM do until recently? Nothing. They didn't even claim the audio until a few days go. The exo members also didn't jump on the train until like last week (they are busy ofc), and when it went number one a few days ago, most of the members were extremely grateful and surprised. I mean, the song got like 14(?) RAKs. Like that's insane if you think about it. Ofc, this is no shade to any other dance challenges that also happened this year, some of them were really fun. But I feel like the First Snow challenge was the only one that was intended to be just that. Fun. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

@anizeer

5 ай бұрын

This is called an organic trend and a not a forceful effect to make it trends like that of lesserafims eve physe that song. Like they tried so hard to make it a trend.

@user-vj7io7dr3p

28 күн бұрын

Also the Look At Me trend too!

The last one is so true. Right now we have nmixx who have dropped their pre-release song 3 weaks ago and their title isn't coming out until January 15th... That's a whole month and a half!!! I'm certain that most people already forgot that they are supposed to have a comeback cause they're not even teasing anything

@soniaigwe3546

5 ай бұрын

I'm sure they're gonna start teasing it closer to the album release date. Personally, I don't see anything wrng in them releasing Sonar whe they did. It gives us enough time and space to appreciate the song and make us hoepful for what the album can have in store for us.

@neb.9489

5 ай бұрын

Same thing with twice 😭 jype just started teasing their cb that comes out in FEBRUARY

YES 1000x for the airport one. I'm pretty new to kpop, so the mobbing at the airport and obsession with "airport style" is still completely baffling to me. Like, sure some western celebrities get their photo taken when they're traveling, but it's either a planned photo op or just the usual papparazzi following them, not a mass of fans with cell phones. I've only travelled once by myself via plane and it was the most stressful day of my life, so I can't imagine how much terrifying it can be for idols. I think it was one of the nugu groups like Riize that came under fire bc one of their security basically punched a fan (that was likely a saseang) out of the way when she was getting too close, but if I were in their place I would have pushed the security out of the way to punch her myself. I'm also really annoyed by the ages and ages of teasers for comebacks. It can be fun if they've got lore and story and such, like Ateez does, but if it's just a garden variety group/concept then by the time they actually start the comeback I'm usually already bored. However, and this might be a stretch, but I actually think it's at least partially about giving fans (particularly young ones whose money is gonna come from their parents) time to save up enough cash to buy the album and merch and tour tickets. Which, honestly, if that really is at least part of their goal, I don't mind. It's capitalism, but I guess kind of a courteous one? I have no interest in the physical merch side of kpop, collecting photo cards or having an overpriced hunk of paper with more photos that are just gonna end up online anyways is not my bag. I got grownup shit to spend my money on and no space for collections. But i'm in the minority, and I get why most kpop fans enjoy that stuff. So for them, all the leadup just feeds their magpie tendencies. Seeing all the different album versions and photo sets makes them want more, whereas if they only have a week or 2 to decide they'll just get 1 album and focus their photo card collecting on their bias. Or at least that's what my experience working retail has taught me. It's also not really new or exclusive to kpop. I'm a longtime metalhead, and I've seen bands put merch and such up for presale waay earlier than these kpop groups do, and even play multiple new songs at shows a month or more before the album drop date. Tho I guess the social media aspect wasn't as much of a thing back in my peak metalhead days, so kpop does have a monopoly on that.

0:56 I replay Bohemian Rhapsody for 6 hours straight during school- doesn’t have nothing to do with the length 💀

@pigeondance

5 ай бұрын

GALILEO FIGAROOOOOOO

Yeah personally i like that groups sometimes tease comebacks so long just for the fact it gives me longer to be able to save up or gather some money somehow to get it if i wish to lol but i see your point for sure!

@RaeG_11

5 ай бұрын

I also enjoy it for the same reason! As someone who likes to collect albums from my favorite groups, it's nice to be given time to save up a little before the pre-order is available :)

@peachxtaehyung

5 ай бұрын

@@RaeG_11 yez exactly especially since I'm on disability income and my KZread isn't able to be monetized (though I'm hoping now since I have a buymeacoffee that'll help) It helps to have extra time than the normal 2 weeks for everything else lol

@hurryhurryhurryhurry

5 ай бұрын

I personally just love waiting for comebacks cuz during that time I personally go through their discographies and enjoy it. I somewhat rediscover my love for them and also remember what made me fall in love with that group or artist in the first place ❤

@ArielSupp

5 ай бұрын

yeah, I think it all depends on personal preference in this case, but I do think always teasing the comeback 1 month early can become a little annoying if it's every single comeback

@lxvJeongin_skz

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, this one’s definitely personal preference, for example it gives me something to look forwards too in my really uncertain life

views/streams being used as a measure of success when certain fandoms have a huge god complex and rely on bragging even though it means their favs music quality take a huge downturn

@neveratinygoldilocks

3 ай бұрын

this!!! especially when the view/stream number is so high that the only reasonable explanation is not that 5627863269 million people watched it but a few thousand watched it a ton!! which is a great show of commitment, but not so much which group/song is 'more successful' or 'more popular'. same with buying physical albums!!

If a song is good, I want it to never end, not being 2 minutes 😐

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Exactly, same here!🥺

For point 5, I also have a recent example of this "copying" that fans seem uncabable of understanding. Aespa had a comeback with Drama, absolutely amazing song and the mv starts with a dark scene and the members in the middle of this group, then it turns red and black. Cool. Now itzy had a comeback, and their born to be song started the exact same way. It definitely feels similar, but these comebacks are planned months ahead. You can't just look at a comeback that was released a month (+ week) and copy that. All of the comebacks have a budget, planners and everything needs to be bought for them so copying is just impossible. It's so dumb.

Short songs are here to stay cause fans did not punished the companies and groups that releasing such songs. If it is a success, why change the formulae.

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I'm afraid you're right :(

@RaeG_11

5 ай бұрын

My New Year's resolution is to simply skip any title track that's less than 3 min for the next year - for my own sanity

The TikTok trend really went over my head and maybe that’s why I hate it, but I hate all these challenges. Promote your music, not another dumb TikTok challenge 🙃🙃 About the copying allegations…it just shows narrow minded fans And about album releases, in a world where groups have 2-3 comebacks a year with a pre release, I absolutely get your point, because your barely out of the comeback, when the next one is announced, but it just drags for so long. Like, why even still call it comeback? You were never gone 😂 but generally I like the comebacks building up. But I’m also a 3rd gen stan, so 🤷🏼‍♀️

i agree with everything you said, but i would add something that i notice a lot in k-pop lately and it annoys me- songs in english. i mean, it's okay if it's full in english but mixing korean and english annoys me so bad. when i started getting into k-pop, songs were mainly in korean with a pinch of english lyrics and i want that back. i get it that companies want to pave the way overseas, but for me, adding english lyrics is ruining k-pop for me. don't get me started on how these lyrics can be nonsense sometimes. i get it if someone prefers english over korean lyrics because it "universal language" that majority of people speak, but i don't and reason is simple- we don't need to understand the lyrics to enjoy the song. music should be universal language. i don't need to know how to pronounce some korean word in order to vibe with song, if i like it- i'll vibe no matter what language is. just bring back good old korean pop, please🙏 Merry Christmas to everyone that celebrate, stay happy with people that you love. Wish every single one of you so much light in life. Take care of youself and your loved ones, guys🌠

I agree with the 1st and 2nd so much, most of the time that bridge that makes the last chorus hit SO hard. But there's no time for that in a 2 and a half minute song., there's barely time to fit 2 verses and 2 choruses. One thing that I REALLY want to leave behind in 2023 is chant chorus, like please, I want meaningful or playful lyrics in a chorus not the same word over and over again, I'm tired of that. One of the reasons my songs of the year are things like Chill Kill by RV, Bonvoyage and OOTD by Dreamcather. They have FULL CHORUSES, and e a bridge and are over 2 and a half minutes. (Tho OOTD doesn't have a long recognisable bridge the outro makes up for it imo, and it maybe not be over 3 minutes but still more then 2 and a half)

no the first one is so terrible it seems like kpop composers are afraid of bridges in songs nowadays

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Ikr and I miss them so much 😭

the bridges are usually my favourite part in songs plus i loved when they slightly altar the last chorus, not to make it un recognisable, but to just add that extra pizzaz to end off the songs ARRRRHH its so CATCHY that way

I do not even listen to songs without bridges, idk who listens to these type of songs more often and how they expect to get more streams. I personally HATE when the songs dont have bridges. It seems empty, the song is over way too fast and it rather makes me angry than wanting to listen to it more:/

Merry Christmas Eve! 🎄🎅

@peachxtaehyung

5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas Eve and Christmas bestie!

I agree with you about the month long teasers . I completely forget when it’s coming out and usually listen to it superlate😅

Agree so much with all these. More songs need to be 3 minutes minimum and bridges need to be brought back ASAP, pun intended. 😅😭 As a multi-stan I want to see more support among 4th Gen fans. Why tear another group down to build you own up that you Stan. Finally, we gotta stop debuting minors or at the very least have them be 16 or 17 at debut. The industry is already rough enough without the added stress of being that young. May you have a fabulous new year, Fran. 💖😉🥰✌️

agree with your list 1000000% esp 1, 2, and 4. I would also like to see less minors debuting. I can forgive or look past one member that is almost 18, but NOT the majority of the group (baby monster)

@neveratinygoldilocks

3 ай бұрын

THIS and the fact that generally when this happens it's with girl groups???? to me the only plausible explanation is that girl groups will often attract a male audience which is probably on the older side... EW

Something i thought we should leave behind was those dances for tiktok challenges etc but i thought about it in dept recently and decided that its actually great. It popped up to me that thanks to those challenges, we have seen an increase in idols from different groups interacting again and do stuff together. Which may open doors for more interactions again, which a lot of kpop fans are asking for

right there with you on all of this.

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Thank youu, I'm so glad somebody agrees!

Its because a short song is aimed towards the general public. A 2 minute song is mostly composed & produced to be easy sounding with more repetitive lyrics to make listeners hook. Even 3 minute songs now have a "bridge" that is arranged like the lyrics.

some of these opinions are for multi stans when its just one group you like some of these things are just fun

@dearyoongi

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I can deffo see that!

I have never heard of Pannchoa until this video lol

@yehet8725

5 ай бұрын

Be glad, I feel like they only spread bad news ;3

Imagine a full length, well thought out new jeans album. but I do hate when songs are less then 3 minutes long, I want different verses, longer bridges, prechorus, outro etc?

6:40 hey it's LABOUM !! :D

weki meki, nmixx, lightsum, weeekly, AND tri.be in one video oh I love you sm

100% agreed on the last one: if something is months away, Im more inclined to forget about it/be less excited for it. My attention will always be on whats happening in like 2-3 weeks instead.

@neveratinygoldilocks

3 ай бұрын

thissss ive never understood why groups spend SO much time on buildup yet only like two weeks actually promoting, I care so much more about more fun interviews and content with the group than I care about teaser photos lmao

@glaciemdraco

3 ай бұрын

@@neveratinygoldilocks Same. Then when the cb actually happens, most of the time I'm basically like: "I absolutely forgot this was a thing and now I feel bad."

Could you recommend some girl groups you listen looking to get into some other girl groups

I really do hope we leave short songs and 'easy to cover' choreos behind in 2023. I will dance to my faves music even if they have the hardest choreo there can be, it won't stop me, I will just do my own thing. Im so annoyed when I know a group can have better music or choreo but we just get... the first point of this video, really.

@neb.9489

5 ай бұрын

I don’t mind easy choreography. Itzy themselves have said that their choreography got easier because the girls were getting injured.

@glaciemdraco

5 ай бұрын

@@neb.9489 Well, thats what happens when you aren't careful, you can give a group a hard choreo that you know they can do with next to no injuries. And besides, it's not all in the choreo but if I wanted to watch hand/hip/head dances, I'd go back to my Western faves, that's all.

The short songs won't go away. I mean look at how y'all make newjeans music a standard of what a "good song" should be. If its not short & repetitive, it'll still be repetitive & easy sounding with surface level lyrics such as idle, aespa, newjeans, le sserafim & ive. None of these "leading groups" released a stronger lyrics that really embodied feminism & the whole loving yourself conpared to 2nd & 3rd gen idol group musics.

@athena7107

5 ай бұрын

Stopped taking you seriously when you said 3rd gen and 2nd gen songs have better lyrics😂 nevaaa

1st opinion so true...seeing how nj songs have garnered success despite being short with repetitive lyrics, i feel like it is not just them who are gonna continue with the same style/structure of songs but also other grp are gonna likely will follow the same route too. and i don't like it at all

@athena7107

5 ай бұрын

Listen twice

@Yana-px9sp

5 ай бұрын

@@athena7107just to hear the same repetitive lyrics again? nah....my stand here is how nj song is actually almost good yet feel lackluster and incomplete

@neveratinygoldilocks

3 ай бұрын

honestly I think that the company thinks that its the short songs and catchy nature that we like, when in actuality we just love chill r&b that doesn't take itself too seriously!! the aesthetic of the group is so amazing! whenever I see people praising the girls its never about their 'vitality' or whatever but their brand identity and fun nature, whereas the majority of criticisms that I see are that their songs aren't fleshed out enough!

One should be added, debuting minors, i think the least age has to be 16-17 bcz kaylee from Vcha is 13..

@-Mcfattypants

4 ай бұрын

she’s 14 now but this still applies

I feel like one thing that NEEDS to go is debuting minors. Like at the very least in the middle of age 16. Theres just so many cons.. 1) their missing out on their childhood. I mean we got idols that debut at 14 when they should be starting high school like?? And theres some idols now that regret it! 2) creeps, perverts, people that like children.. but in a sexual way. Fucking gross 3) the industry is hardcore. You cant date, you cant have an ex-relationship (cough cough seunghan) and more to the list. People will shame you if youre "overweight" and discredit you or anything else when that person cant even sing or dance. It destroying that young idols self esteem and teaching them to be people pleasers. Gross! Plus if the company just waits until their illegal and THEN debut, theyve basically been marinating all sorts of tips and stuff and become a showstopping idol. But time is money i guess?

@neveratinygoldilocks

3 ай бұрын

EXACTLYYYYYYYYY and the fact that idols tend to train for about 2 years before debuting!!! so the extra young idols start even EARLIER and are exposed to the harsh work environment even before the public sees them! and knowing how exploitative the industry in general is, there is NO way these girls are getting paid or treated fairly and they likely have to endure a lot of rude and gross people that just so happen to be the ones in charge of whether or not they debut🤮

@chiiyuv2826

3 ай бұрын

@@neveratinygoldilocks no cus imagine training in elementary and already being introduced to all sorts of restrictions. It has to suck