I'm absolutely pumped two of my favorite all time broadcasters are doing a podcast together

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

we're excited to bring the show to you!! Thanks Mark...subscribe, like and please share with all your golf buddies!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks so much Mark! We're pumped your watching...please subscribe and share with all your golf buddies!

The older I get, the more I realize that amateur golf is the truest most pure form of the sport. I’ve really had enough of the professional game post tiger woods. It’s all about money. “Just throw money at what ever problem and it’ll be alright”. It’s truly disgusting. Also, no government of a country should own a professional sport. Especially an autocratic one. One thing is certain, the lower tier players have been given the shaft ever since this liv nonsense began. Once the pga tour starting talking about no-cut events, I knew that they only cared about the top few players and the rest get screwed. RIP Bobby Jones

@BidenIsKing

Жыл бұрын

Easy buddy, it’s just for entertainment.

@jamesm9995

Жыл бұрын

Calm down ffs

@pjpredhomme7699

Жыл бұрын

absolutely - it always has been I remember Jackie Burke wrote an essay to I think golf digest about how the tour had ruined golf - probably about 30 years ago he was 100% back then .

@BidenIsKing

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesm9995 exactly! Crotchety aren’t we! LOL

@markoldham5403

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesm9995 Will you still be calm when when the PIF buys the NFL and the NBA?

All I know is Monahan came out with a war strategy with LIV in the beginning which was unnecessary and stupid . He has caused so much damage he has to go . The number of problems Monahan has left after this battle is hard to comprehend and wrap your head around . The players need to give a no vote of confidence to Monahan and figure out who and how this mess is going to be straightened out .

@davepennington5150

Жыл бұрын

😊 Tl😢

@davepennington5150

Жыл бұрын

Look Look lol.. I F 5 T 😢

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your take!

You guys did nail it! All was handled foolishly by Monahan and the powers behind the curtain. Having been in golf my whole life i can’t believe that I stopped watch PGA Tour events. Kostis and McCord explained why because it became so boring. I really like watching LIV because it seems to be so much more relaxed with fans and players having fun. I hope the Saudi’s do take over because a benevolent dictator can always do better than group with different thoughts and agendas. Remember that a mule is a horse designed by committee.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks Bill...appreciate you! Please subscribe and share with your buddies!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

Bill, thank you for your comments and appreciate the kind words...we all hope it's better for all of golf! Much appreciated

@colnagosuper

Жыл бұрын

LIV is interesting in TV because of people like Troy Mullins, Sue Ann Heng and the rest off the gang. CBS should keep Dottie Pepper and send the rest home. Start over. NBC totally lost it. If they had it. The dumbasses fired the wrong guys.

You guys have given the best discussion I have heard yet over this topic. Love your show!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks so much Ray! Appreciate the feedback and make sure to share the show with your friends!!

Peter is 100% right, the tour bungled the whole thing from the very beginning. None of this never needed to happen.

I do not think Monahan ever had a moral issue in the first place. I simply believe it was the path that he chose to retain players and explain his strong-arm tactics.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your comments, much appreciated

@-Thunder

Жыл бұрын

@@kostismccord YT actually censored my original response (open a private window and check the comments to see if your potentially too spicy comment actually shows up). Suffice to say I agree that Monahan was using a tactic and never actually believed what he was saying. It was a very damaging tactic.

Peter you nailed it, Jay made a HUGE mistake playing the "moral card". I have been telling people that too. It has done nothing but cause division.

@Blacklist324

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@katking6820

Жыл бұрын

I’ve actually gotten into arguments about LIV vs PGA …PGA had zero chance with Jay running things he’s a bully!

@andrewlevy8134

Жыл бұрын

100% right, especially when the PGA has been sponsoring golf in China for many years ...(China has a terrible human rights record)

@yellowhammer685

Жыл бұрын

And the fact that Saudi Aramco (majority shareholder: the Saudi government/Saud family) has been a primary sponsor of the European Ladies Tour for a while now.

Gary & Peter - great perspective. Thanks for the emergency show. 👏👏

I’m in!!! It’s about time some sense is brought back into golf to counteract the silliness that dechaumblee and crew spew! This is going to be great!

As a Canadian I think the last 2 years of opens were/are great for Canadian golf. Our national open will forever be tied to the biggest golf story in memory. Far from overshadowing it , I think it brings much more focus to it, and thank the stars for Rory McIlroy for returning every year to defend. I saw Arnold and Jack play the Canadian Open in the mid 70's as a 15 year old kid and attended last year's open at 63 to watch Rory & J.T. & Corey Conners, with 3 Canadians in the following group...it couldn't get much better for me. I really miss both Gary and Peter on the broadcasts, you guys were great, glad we can at least see you on this format now. Reply

@m2umark

11 ай бұрын

Agreed, I always benefit from Garry's swing tips and analysis. The current golf telecasts lack flavor in my opinion.

Thanks Gary, Peter and team. I wonder if yourselves and Roger Maltbie may now get back to doing what you all do so very well considering that Broadcast rights will become a new possibility? Gary, your humour on commentary is legendary and to both Peter (your technical info is always so clear that it helps us amateurs) and Roger (who I think provides the best on course commentary) Would it be something you all might consider ??? (though maybe not with the current PGA leadership and broadcast team)

Amazing that people can think that business, golf, or sports can be separated from morality and ethics. This is how immoral & malevolent institutions survive and thrive -- ordinary people look away and pretend everything is OK. I'm sure Gary and Peter remember the battles in 50s - 90s on country club membership policies -- no non-whites, no Jews, no Catholics. Even Augusta National Club faced this and -- at long last -- adjusted their policy. The defenders of the old system argued that morality shouldn't be allowed into the rules and policies of private social clubs. Hannah Arendt's book on Adolph Eichmann had a subtitle that introduced the phrase "the banality of evil". In part the phrase refers to Eichmann's deportment at the trial as the man displayed neither guilt for his actions nor hatred for those trying him, claiming he bore no responsibility because he was simply "doing his job" ("He did his ‘duty'...; he not only obeyed 'orders', he also obeyed the 'law'."p. 135). Also, the PGA executives and promoters that feigned moral outrage and used it to manipulate other people (mostly players) should be ashamed and should not be trusted. This new deal proves that their "morality" is for sale for the right price, regardless of the consequences or the example that it sets.

I think Jay should run for President. He's perfect for the job!

Great convo. Spring for an upgrade in Gary’s dial-up internet. ;)

Thanks guys ,so look forward to these videos.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that Adrian! Thank you!!

Love the cantor between these two!

Great podcast, most balanced takes I've heard so far and the information about announcers being told to stay silent was a bit eye opening for me. I agree with Gary when he says who knows how this will end up. I'm right there with you boss. This whole situation is astonishing both good and bad ways potentially... I hope I have enough popcorn.😉

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying it Jason and appreciate your comments and sharing the channel with your golf buddies...

Always a fun podcast with these two guys very colorful and outspoken and have a great insights. Truly miss him from the CBS team. That is dry to say it nicely 😢

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the compliments Pete! Much appreciated...keep watching more to come the US Open week!

You nailed it Peter. Love your take

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks Graig!

Excellent episode

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you! more to come!!

Awesome show truth is refreshing

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much AK!

Why did CBS fired these two gems? This is the most fun I’ve seen or heard on any golf broadcast in years. Their take on the current crop of announcers was spot on. They all sound the same.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

Dave, thanks for the kind words, we appreciate your support, subscription and sharing of our show...all the best

Great podcast no substitute for expertise and experience. They are a great duo. Only just discovered this channel . 100% they should merge. Let all LIV golfers back but get rid of 54 hole , shot gun, team format. Get back to 72 hole strokeplay. Placate the Grayson Murray’s if this world with money so the LIV golfers aren’t treated like lepers. Have PGA/PIF tour 40 weeks of the year and make the players sign up to minimum 12 events a year. The top players tend to play between 20 and 30 events anyway. Get rid of these designated events. Normal event should have between 120&156 players cut after 36 holes. Keep Sentry and East Lake but rest should be full field events.

@kostismccord

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark!

Very interesting take

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks Doug! Appreciate the comments and viewing!

Thanks guys from Australia. Do you think the future will an ATP type of tour like Tennis .......... 1 world tour with PGAT & Euro etc still running? David

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

we'll explore that David next episode thanks!

THESE GUYS ARE FRIGGING HILARIOUS, ALWAYS KNEW GARY WAS A CARD BUT OLD PETER IS A CHARACTER AS WELL!

JAY had 2 options when LIV started. Option 1 Attack LIV with "blood money and human rights " this failed. Option 2 Negotiate. This is just a business merger.

Why do you not show the date of these shows?

Miss Kostis swing evaluation . No one has replaced him . Certainly don't mis yep, yup Ferrety !

I agree with the idea of they should just buy the LPGA tour now - and include them into it - having some mixed events would be good . As far as winners are concerned there aren't any

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your comments and viewing and subscription, it's appreciated!

Thank you Gentlemen! A no spin zone!! An idea for a name… “take the spin off” Just a thought…

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

good one Dennis! we had a ton we were working with...thanks!

Gary said the players will feel they have no say in how things are run. That is exactly what Phil said when he left, and he was crucified for it.

Great job guys! YOU NAILED IT ON THE HEAD! The PGA Tour players have to feel like real FOOLS! MONAHAN SHOULD BE GONE!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks Joe!! appreciate the response and your viewing...see you in San Felipe in the fall!

When they said “it’ll grow the game”, I was smart enough to know that that means “make rich people richer”. It’s not going to put clubs in the hands of kids. THAT would be growth for a slowly fading game.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

agree we need more kids playing thanks for the comments Jamie

2:50 “I am simultaneously happy and pissed off” Yeah, I can relate to what you’re saying … BTW it looks like all you guys are not too far away from my age (70) The only problem is - what does anyone care about what you say and what I say (at our age) ??? Do we REALLY think that what we have to say has any real effect ??? Ummm ….. i don’t think so, not to any great degree, anyway So, as for me, I think I might just go out and enjoy playing golf and disregard things that (after all) we have no control over ….

I heard PIF have $3bn budget. $2bn for prize money for new pga/PIF tour and $1bn to placate the players who stayed loyal to pga tour.

Whoever was clicking their pen in the last 3rd of this vid…OMG 😂

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for noticing and commenting! not sure who the culprit was but we'll out him!! keep enjoying all the episodes!

According to David Faber of CNBC, The PIF are essentially the new owners.

Brooks and Dustin aren't getting a pass, but they didn't sue or bad mouth the tour. FIGJAM and Bryson have a special hell waiting for them. If I were Phil I wouldn't even come back, I'd just play outings and majors. The PGA exemption will get him in a few more .

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your comment Cindy

McCord obviously stealing his neighbors wifi

With all this BS going on, I genuinely hope to GOD Monahan and Brandle Shambleass go away never to be seen again !!!!

@7884golfguru

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree mate👍

If a PGAT player requests to play a LIV event as a reserve player for Smash GC, would PGAT grant the request now without fear of a ban?

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

soon to find out! Thanks for comments Doc...

Great talk. But these mic delay issues please handle em.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about that, we had some issues for sure yesterday, we'll fix it thanks for the watch and comments!

Matt Adams FWOL broke news that this was rushed out as Rahm was in advanced talks to join LIV probably after US Open.

I think the new golf amalgam will be as nice and shiny as Peter's chompers. At least I hope it is.

Tiger needs to start his own tour...i bet he can get J.T.

@andrewlevy8134

Жыл бұрын

Tiger, Rory and team have their own tour (Tomorrow Sports) they start in 2024. they have signed the likes of John Rahm , Justin Thomas and others though I don't see that they have been sanctioned or penalised from playing on the PGA Tour (Ha Ha) Interestingly, they are "team events', "no cut', limited holes...funny about that.....

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the good take Andrew! Appreciate the watch and subscribing, hope you keep enjoying all our episodes past and future!

Get interview with phil McGleno!!!!

Jay Monahan will paint any car, any color for $59.99.

Originally, longtime golf fans had a problem with the Saudi money and outrageous monetary offers to the guys leaving for LIV. They didn't "deserve" that much money. In hindsight, Monahan should have taken the Saudi PIF money as an "investment in the tour", which is just what they've doing now.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

hindsight is 20/20 thanks

Wasn’t liv going to have entry tournaments , that would make the pga a second grade tour just above the kornferry tour. They saw this coming and knew they were up against the wall and just capitulated

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the comments, appreciate the watch

The players who didn't take the LIV deal aren't getting sh1t - Jay and the PGAT held out money for years which is why Phil Mickelson left for LIV in the first place lmao, you think the PGAT is suddenly going to change now and give billions to the players when they don't have to? Hahaha no chance

Yassir is running it.

Why pay guys who didn't leave? I didn't invest in Apple, should I get compensated? Heck NO.

@johnceragioli9671

Жыл бұрын

@DA Claggett. This is just like Elon Musk buying Twitter, PIF is buying an asset, the PGA Tour. The PGA tour is “owned” by the players who stayed and denied the LIV money. They should get compensation for selling their assets to PIF.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

good take John thanks for the comments and views, appreciate subscription and sharing our show with friends!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks DA

Bringing in the families of 911 victims was a low low blow. Showing Monahan's character or lack of. He will use anyone.

An MOU - Memorandum of Understanding… was created and announced. …between Jay & PIF. No valuation of each entity but a spread. It’s almost as if Jay & PIF were at the bar, wrote on a napkin then called a presser.

Could see the new entity purchase the golf channel.

Gary has an endless cup of something.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

coffee? usually...it was in the morning! maybe a bit stronger when we shoot in the evening!! thanks for your comments Robert!

This is an article from Tom Anderson April 2022 titled ‘The PGA’s China Problem’….PGA Tour China is one of several developmental circuits sponsored by The PGA. The PGA Tour appears unfazed by China’s appalling human rights record, which currently includes accusations of brutal persecution of its Uyghur Muslim population. The PGA Tour’s failure to file a 990 form disclosing its financial dealings with Chinese private equity firm Yao Capital As a tax-exempt organization, the PGA Tour is required to disclose such business dealings in China. It seems a clear case of the PGA Tour trying to have it both ways: gaining entry into the lucrative and largely untapped Chinese golf market, while flying under the radar of U.S. regulators and the IRS

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your thoughts Andrew, appreciate you watching and subscribing...lot's more good content to come soon!

Love this podcast but they need a director!!!

@guitar1950

Жыл бұрын

Yessir!

@guitar1950

Жыл бұрын

And, Gary needs to get his wifi or internet up to modern standards! Lol!

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

have you watched other episodes? We had issues with tech and put it out with no editor love! Sorry, but hope you enjoyed the fast takes...thanks!

@guitar1950

Жыл бұрын

@@kostismccord watched everyone! Good stuff!

Guys good chat. However you didn’t project that the PIF will pump in unrealistic money for a period of time and then become disinterested or fulfilled. Then we will find that the player prizes are not sustainable and Golf ultimately is a non-commercially viable sport at those levels.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

we shall see Iain, thanks for your comments

I wish McCord was doing CBS, Trevor could hold his microphone cord...

I would have thought the players would have had to vote on this! Who wants the PGA tour run by Saudi Arabia! Although I wasn’t against and watched some Liv tournaments, to have them run the PGA tour is not good IMO! I won’t be watching except maybe the majors!

So, the NBA merger was insignificant ?

ABA and NBA then WHA and NHL in mid to late 1970’s

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

you're right thanks for the comment! appreciate the view and hope you enjoy the shows

I hope players create a union.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks so much!

How about all the top players who didn't take the money? How are they feeling now? The players got a taste of reality, when it comes to believing management. Player run .... now that is funny. Other then if your a member of a TEAM, Who cares week by week about team play. This is not basketball, baseball or football. Could this all be about gambling? Are they trying to turn golf into a major betting sport?

@michaelangell9148

Жыл бұрын

I think team play is the obvious big growth potential area for golf. The most watch golf is team golf in the Ryder cup.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

One of hte mnost popular golf events is the Ryder Cup. A team event. TEH Presidents Cup is also a popular event, which is also a team event. A lot of people care about it.

@katking6820

Жыл бұрын

That’s why you always take the money!

Rumour has it that a recent #1 player and multiple major winner was looking to make the jump. This would not look well for the PGA and assoc. tours. Plus money talks, lol. I like anything that makes Chamblee mad, lmfao. Supposedly the PIF tried to get involved with the golf tours years ago but were stymied. Hence LIV.

STOP CLICKING YOUR PEN!!!!!!

@Ronaldalan114

Жыл бұрын

Lol. I said the same…gotta do better, but I still loved the banter

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

sorry about that!! Even emergency show should be better! We'll improve!! thanks

@christiancasper44

Жыл бұрын

@@kostismccord no need to apologize. Is this Mr. McCord?? Huge fan of yours, love the stories. CBS hasnt been the same since they got rid of you two. Vanilla:(:(

I wonder what August national is going to say

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

they already did...in support of it

@bobbys4327

Жыл бұрын

Who do you think is helping run the show? You think the members of Augusta are not business men, that more than likely already have many deals with Saudi's.

The Muppets want Waldorf and Statler back in their balcony seats please

Is this about poor communication or MONEY?? I suspect vast amounts of money supercedes poor communication over the long haul.

Arnoldcreated the pga, Tiger doubled the revenue &Phil will be seem as the catalyst that results in a 4X explanation.

I wish I could get reimbursed for my bad business decisions. Reparations for hurt feeling. Loyalty, really? What's that worth in corporate world?

Can we get McCord a decent Internet connection? His connection keeps breaking up and he keeps stepping on others who are talking. Love the podcast but we need Gary off DSL.

So professional golf was/is in a complete contentious mess. And a few sane individuals came together and decided to resolve everything. This apparently is not acceptable to McCord. He wanted the whole PGAT boardroom involved in the discussions. Does this man know how big business is done? We are talking about maybe four key people that made this happen. This is three separate organizations [PGAT, DPWT, and LIV Golf] that will be financially managed by PIF. Really not hard to understand.

Do we have to watch McCord slurp up his "coffee" through the podcast, or is this a prank on us?

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

we'll get him caffeinated prior to next show! thanks!

2:05 “emergency podcast” OK, guys, please don’t tell me that you think that you guys are so on top of things, that you think that you are the only ones who can call out that some issue is “urgent” If you’re joking, I’m fine with that. Otherwise, don’t try to be kiddin’ me …..

Someone had something on in the background and it gets more annoying as time goes on.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

sorry about that...we'll fix and be better in the future...thanks for watching!

If this new pro tour entity continues with this LIV team/franchise model I will be absolutely done with the Tour. Time for more LPGA

STEPPING ON EACH OTHER REALY TAKES AWAY FROM VIEWING THIS VIDEO

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

sorry Carl, we had some tech issues that day, fixing them hopefully!! Appreciate your comments and views!

@carlr287

Жыл бұрын

@@kostismccord Sorry I came across so harsh. Your videos are hilarious. I've turned all my golfing buddies onto them.

Saudi blood money is the point ! Choice is morality over a game Very disappointed with your responses

@bobbys4327

Жыл бұрын

putting Saudi fuel in your car is being a hypocrite!

Man, I thought Rory would be the first guy calling for Jay's head. But some other lower tier player asks for him to resign and Rory basically sticks up for Jay. Something smells really fishy about that doesn't it. Maybe, Rory knew more than he lead on or the phone call Rory got from Jimmy Dunne promised him a boat load of money! Just saying!

@Blacklist324

Жыл бұрын

Yep, Rory got his direct deposit.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your comments! appreciate your viewing of our show!

Jimmy Dunne is gettin paid. He has a deal in place to profitr off the deal with the live scoring shot link stuff

Who had the radio or TV running in the background? Annoying.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

sorry about that...rushed reactions we'll do better...appreciate the comment, subscription and views

So the moral dilemma now is that the PGA Tour is buddy-buddy with the people that brought down the World Trade Center Towers and stone women that voice an opinion just like the WWE and the UFC? Why isn't the LPGA also thrown into the mix? - LMAO

Still difficult to understand,

I can feel something evil what Jay nobody is doing,wait when the players have to sign contracts,I can see something sinister with a new contract,like no Liv tour

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your comments Mike

f the pga LIV is just a better product....

Hey Abram, I'm not here for the sanity..

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

haha appreciate the comment! me either!! emergency take and no chance we get sanity, at least from McCord!! Thanks and keep watching and sharing all our episodes!!

Like, we need Arnie for some sanity right now.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your comments...we loved the King

How can you discount the morality issue in this deal? That’s what it’s all about for the Saudis…”there nothing here to see. How would we feel about the USA government if it sanctioned killing it’s political opponents?

@bobbys4327

Жыл бұрын

lol...and you are very naïve if you think they don't! Also, the opponents do not even have to be of another country or gov.

@richp4449

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbys4327 give me an example.

First and foremost, players like Phil felt slighted that they didn't own themselves, which they should feel that way. The tour wanted it all. All Monoman needed to do was sit down with the players and hack out a deal that everyone could live with instead of being the dicktater and telling Phil and the others to go f*** themselves.

I compare what Jay Monahan has just done getting into bed with LIV as if someone broke into his home and assaulted his kids, 12 months later he invited them back to babysit them. He has no decency or morals.

Come back? The pga will cease to exist,the new one will decide who plays

Now that they are all employed by Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud will we be seeing them in Saudi garb at all events? 😂

The genesis of "what changed" is that corporate title sponsors were pulling out and or balking having to pay these higher purses for these elevated events since some of the best players were on LIV, they were not getting an acceptable return on the money they were putting up. The PGA Tour had to put the money up for these higher purses and they are not flush with unlimited funds- THAT is the first domino to fall. Honda- a title sponsor in South Florida for 4 decades STOPPED sponsoring that event after this year. That should alarm everyone and they are a global company. Also, some events were getting squeezed with a lack of top 50 players- look at the Canadian Open this week, besides Rory McIlroy- no top players are even in the event- a very weak field since they moved to the week before the US Open. The answer is to always follow the money and PIF are going to inject tens of billions of dollars over the next few years into professional golf- very similar to how they have done with Formula 1 racing. You can moralize all you want but PIF is buying a seat at the table of professional golf, we will see how it all turns out but the players will be playing for more money, fields will be stronger. Newer, younger players who are on the fringe of having tour status or limited status are going to get squeezed out of some events- they will be back on the Korn Ferry Tour, but those purses will be going up considerably as well. Most all companies/industries and even countries do business' with the Saudis- you can throw a pizzy fit but this going to happen whether you like it or not.

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your comments and viewing!

@bobbys4327

Жыл бұрын

yup, that covers it!

Good idea for Gary to upgrade his podcast quality and stop bouncing his coconut all over the place so he stays centered. You guys did a great job

@kostismccord

Жыл бұрын

thanks Dude! Ya, had an issue with his upload, gears good...we'll be better this week!

Norman and Mikelson were the perpetrators of disaster! Hate it!

@bobbys4327

Жыл бұрын

lol...for a second I thought your screen name was jimnance3260.

Old men talking over each other. Boomers can’t zoom