I miss Peter and Gary announcing but I’m glad they now have the freedom to tell us all the truth, that only insiders like they are, know, very informative. I enjoy the stories, keep them coming I’m sure you have hundreds

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree - Gary completely downplays his significance on the PGA tour. He is the person who came up with the 125 exempt tour after all. That was a complete game changer. Peter's assessment of the current status of the tour was excellent.

I'm sorry but Peter and Gary are better in this podcast than the goobers that are announcing golf these days. Damn you CBS! I watched these guys for so many years that it hurts to hear them here and not at a tournament. I miss them so much! (edit: Colt Knost is not a goober! lol)

@MichaelWatsonGod

5 ай бұрын

You can't beat experience when it comes to commentary.

I come from a golfing family. My uncle was head pro at LACC for 30 years 1930-60. My father was a professional caddie with 4 victories as well as on the all world Navy golf team in the 50’s. My brother and I each have city golf titles and I am now 75 and I don’t even watch golf except for majors. I tape tournaments and if I’m interested I may watch the last nine of a tournament.

@robertbogdan7058

5 ай бұрын

I could have typed that last part. I used to watch EVERY tournament. Now I watch 3 majors, The Open, the US Open and The Masters on Sunday only. And that's it.

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

I was in and around Professional golf for 40+ yrs. The administration of the game has always been more interested in their personal status than the game or state itself. It was painfully obvious that when Tiger came along - all kinds of money, fame came along everyone decided they were brilliant - and sat back collected checks, and patted each other on the back. I remember saying this is not going to live forever - what do we do - to build on this? - Crickets , the caretakers of the tour played the violin while Rome is burning. Consequently, I only watch majors, can't remember the last time I was interested in a weekly tour event.

@lionheartmerrill1069

5 ай бұрын

@thomasrichardson-ev1wp Awesome. I was born in LA/1950. As I recall 1 of my uncles was a member of LACC or could've been Wilshire CC? Another uncle was a member of Riviera CC, played it a couple of times. I was addicted to golf, dreamt about playing the Champions Tour, we can all dream 😂😁.

You guys are so Awesome, this is the best golf podcast, please keep episodes coming!!!❤😊

Can we buy Kostis and McCord merchandise? I'd support these guys.

The problem with Nike golf apparel is that it is not high quality and is over priced. I’m on the golf course in SWF five days a week. I rarely see the swoosh and never the TW logo. Where I can find the product is at Goodwill and the Big Box discount stores.

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

totally agree - however I would suggest you see if you can look up Phil Knight's college thesis that became the framework for Nike. The premise was that they could have goods ( shoes primarily) made cheaply in china - and aggressively market and promote them - and it could make money. yeah the motto was by athletes for athletes but it was always about low quality, disposable products. that has always been true

Im glad that McCord and Kostas can speak their minds since they're not employed by CBS anymore.

@Handletaken4

5 ай бұрын

CBS is infected with the Augusta Dull Virus

Jim Nance has jumped the shark. Yesterday's final holes were epic, but he announces it as if it were a County Fair Quilting Bee. The apathy is evident.

I’ve been watching golf since the early 1960’s. I’m 68 now and still love playing and improving my game. I never pulled for any golfer to win, just enjoyed the competition and being amazed at their ability to hit a golf ball. There are only a couple of tour players I even have any respect for now and if I watch TV golf it is to see the golf course. Your local pro is the important golf professional in your life. If competitive professional golf ceases to exist it won’t affect me that much.

@lauriebarns9901

5 ай бұрын

I started playing golf at 7 in 1962, in Scotland. I love the game and what it has taught me about myself (and playing partners). I deeply resent professional golf being bought out by immoral govts (LIV & DP). I will be less likely to watch pro golf.

@iggyclubb

5 ай бұрын

@@lauriebarns9901 Great comment. My ancestors came from Scotland and England. There is a club pro here where I live in Iowa whose father, Gus Moreland, was a contemporary of Hogan, Byron Nelson and Sam Snead. He regularly bested them in tournaments as a junior and young adult amateur. They spoke very highly of his skills as a player. He ended up forgoing Professional touring golf in the 1930’s to make a better living in his Father in Laws business. He is in both the Texas and Illinois golf Hall of Fame. Became a club pro back in Texes after retiring in the early sixties. His son became a touring pro and is a great friend of Lee Trevino before leaving the tour to be a club pro. Those are the “Golf Professionals” I revere. They are the backbone of recreational golf for the masses. “Professional Golfers” are amazing players and are fun to watch perform, but too many of them have lost touch with “the game.” Just my viewpoint, many will disagree and I accept that.

I am astounded that in 2024 the Golf Channel, NBC and CBS executives haven't figured out that most people that watch golf on TV would much rather watch the front view where they can see what the pro is doing in their swing instead of looking at their gluteus maximus as they put the tee in the ground. The pro tracer is interesting but amateurs want to see the front view where they can learn something to work on at the range.

@craigjordan4635

5 ай бұрын

I think broadcast golf should give more information about the green side club selection and explain the technique the golfer employs to hit the shot. I don’t care the pros hit their 8 iron as far as most amateurs hit their 3 wood.

The more I see of Gary the more I realize how smart he is.

@mntlblok

5 ай бұрын

Not that Peter doesn't have great insights, as well.

@lionheartmerrill1069

5 ай бұрын

​@@mntlblok Good call.

I’m 60, and love golf and have played golf since I was a kid. It is the greatest game! I now play with a group of guys every week and we travel to play. I love to watch competitive golf. I however have NO INTEREST in watching LIV Golf. The PGA tour has probably overplayed their hand over the years, however LIV is not real golf.. who really cares about it. I don’t begrudge most of those guys who left for LIV with so much money they are getting I would probably do the same thing. But as a fan I won’t be watching, I’d rather spend my time playing.

@cgasucks

5 ай бұрын

I like eating pizza and Chinese food.

@Handletaken4

5 ай бұрын

LIV is the Globetrotters of Golf. Exhibition

Tieho Mochebelele here. Love you gents!!! Grew up to your amazing commentary on the Tiger Woods PGA games on PlayStation 2! At age 18 I played pro golf in 2010 on the Sunshine and European Tours. Currently working on my return to pro golf. WOULD APPRECIATE AN INTERVIEW WITH YOU GENTLEMEN TO DISCUSS GROWTH PROSPECTS FOR GOLF IN AFRICA WHICH HAS THE WORLD'S YOUNGEST AVERAGE AGE AND TOTAL POPULATION OF 1.5BN PEOPLE

@lamarporter9976

5 ай бұрын

AMEN Brother 🎉🎉🎉

Excellent incite guys, you always bring clarity to the issues in golf.

Love these guys missed them on the course 🤩

Been watching golf since 1968.The LIV with the Saudies has changed the way I look at golf.Will never watch a LIV event and am most likely done with golf.Leadership has let us down ,sponsors don’t want to be aligned with them.Neither do I,I am done watching golf

This is a fine program. TV quality.

I never ever used anything Nike for golf, not shoes, not balls, definitely not clubs or bags. I had Nike running/tennis shoes and some Tshirts and I played every sport.

Subscribed! Great stuff!👍

Thanks!

Great show boys. Always wanna watch you guys but Keeping it under 30 min makes it more possible. Remember your not the only game in town. No pun intended.

Pure gold!

What does freezing in Arizona look like? I'm in Ohio and the wind chill is -10.

@kevindick1110

5 ай бұрын

It's colder than a well diggers a.s.s. here. I'm near Dayton. Was afraid my dogs stream would freeze when he went out to piss. LMAO.

Okay - couple of comments. The guys are great. Sub'd. Not sure why the FJ logo on Kostis' collar is flipped around, also dunno why Kostis is holding a wedge for this whole thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Great podcast guys.

Hubby and I love to watch love your tips we both played college golf

@Ken-ck4zn

5 ай бұрын

Your “ hubby” should’ve made you put a decent picture on here.

We all must learn from this experience that..change can be difficult but also Good ❤❤❤

PGA tour made these guys superstars and now the PGA tour is going down the drain isn't it obvious that the problem is with who's running the tour now

5-Stars! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

I loved Nike clubs they were very good I’m a 3 hcp and I still use a Nike hybrid

It’s been two weeks you guys going to do something quick I really miss your repartee 😢

Boy…I miss to ear/see these guys on tv!!!

I’m about you old farts ages. I started playing golf after my various body parts said “no” to tennis. I love golf for the game. Best ever. I watch the majors and Ryder Cup. The rest? Meh. Maybe the younger gens like the money game so LIV makes sense, but for me, money is nothing compared to a round at dawn with a couple of friends.

It’s so obvious you guys have some unresolved anger! I used to love both you guys and was sorry when they cut you guys but stay positive you had a good run !

Golf did 200 billion in sales last year....

Kinda reminds me of the different boxing associations.

LIV ONLY gets mentioned when the do well in majors! PGA provides the true golfer entertainment. Nobody but the press gives a diddle about LIV. Leave it alone!

@thisizcle140

5 ай бұрын

Wrong

@keithpanco

3 ай бұрын

So wrong

WOW! What a great discussion. Thank you guys.

A person can only watch a limited amount of golf.Even with a DVR that cuts the time in half.

I love the game of golf and have nothing but respect for Tiger Woods. Does anyone really care about Nike and Tiger? Golf is fractured and the majors are all that's is left worth watching.

Kostis with his grey hair tucked under his hat and arms crossed ….looking a bit like Lee Trevino

@pjwillsr

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, and I hope that cough isn't chronic.

@georgemorris5887

5 ай бұрын

@@pjwillsr 😂-first time I watched their podcast - loved it !!

Sneak dissin LIV i see still

Man, I miss McCord and Feherty announcing golf. The show they put on now is horrible. I usually watch it taped on mute, lol.

Love you guys, but am totally sick of this PGA vs LIV conversation. Its never been about what's good for golf it's just about money. Hard pass on the lot.

before novelty gear became 'professional' gear in golf, callaway made a sandwedge NO ONE played...and taylor made produced copies of woods with metal heads, and a hollow iron NO ONE played...now these companies own golf!! hahaha...all on the back of novelty equipment and gimmicks!! thanks to the pga. back then...professional equipment was made by companies like hogan golf, eventually unable to compete in the gimmick golf novelty club industry. that's all that really needs to be said about the modern game.

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

that is an absurd oversimplification, what really happened was the Bush Sr cut the defense budget at the end of the cold war. Subsequently, most of southern California was loaded with extremely talented engineers with no place to ply their trade as all the defense contractors instituted massive layoffs. So enough of them were around that had an interest in building golf clubs that were better suited for their purpose. As the baby boom generation aged it naturally transitioned into more golfers - and the making of clubs that made bad players better became a big business. If you start making serious money - the suits are going to show up - and ruin everything - that is essentially what has happened to golf. It's what got me out. Being successful - brought too much attention - and I was inundated with a whole bunch of experts to tell me how I could do what I was doing 24 X 7, 365 and make even more money - for my masters. Its just greed - its always greed that ruins good things.

@tonysmario817

5 ай бұрын

well, chalking it up to greed is an oversimplification as well...but the correct one. the problem is that greed is not working since they ruined golf and made it the most boring, homogenized version of itself in history!! they never anticipated that it was the simple neutral equipment that made golf what it was, and made the talent so interesting...the tournaments as well, since driving the ball used to be such a vital part of scoring, and a player could go from birdies to bogies just by losing the driver swing on a few holes. courses challenged pros to play every club...now they seem to be able to score only with a wedge in their hands, or an iron to a par 5. that is what is absurd. simply shorten and tighten the courses...that would do it. ban the novelty gear in professional golf...that won't happen because of the money. our only hope is to create a different tour. the money will flow as soon as the excitement of golf is returned to the viewer. @@pjpredhomme7699

I Have been a golfer and a Huge golf fan LONG before Tiger came along. But nowadays these players are great. But they do not inspire me to watch anymore. They are all Filthy rich and Famous and they give me the sense they could care less about winning.

Nike dumped Tiger because he basically cant play anymore or very little....he's not on TV anymore

I think the whole LIV thing has killed a lot of interest in watching pro golf

tiger is very fortunate that he won as much as he did because with his scandals anyone else would have been run off very sickening to listen to announcers worshiping him as if he were deity

watching televised golf will never be the same without tiger in the field..i dont care how good the current players are..i was addicted to watching golf on tv and i rarely watch anymore other than highlights which sucks for me..i prefer these days to watch the women play

@lionheartmerrill1069

5 ай бұрын

I've watched a lot of golf in my 73 years of existence. I prefer watching the women now too.

@EnTitledTown

5 ай бұрын

I much prefer watching ladies golf ⛳️

i worked in the golf industry in the 80's into the early 90's, selling golf equipment. i was there when the novelty gear first became popular. most of it, like callaway's 's2h2' was pure gimick...the rest, like the giant headed drivers on extra long graphite shafts, were designed for high handicap golfers and the elderly!! hahhahaha...that's who we sold that crap to. real golfers wouldn't touch them. that's why the prostitute pga changed golf...became rich...and ruined the game. today's pros play with equipment designed for beginners and old people... so how do we compare their scores to that of the past? why would we? it's cheating really.

So far, Monahan has botched every key decision. Why does he still have a job?

I stopped buying Nike years ago....child labor made

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if nike had any sense, they would begin the 'legends tour', and offer big money to see the modern pros compared to the legends of the past...era specific clubs and balls at traditional venues where the history of golf was made. let's see the modern pros compared to jones and hogan and nicklaus and trevino...i'll bet half of them cannot score at all with real golf equipment...and don't belong being paid millions of dollars under the pretense of the being the 'best golfers in the world'. today we know only novelty golfers who have never proved their worth compared to the great golfers of the past. any sponsors who produce such comparisons would own the future of golf.

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

interesting idea - but would be difficult to monetize that.

@tonysmario817

5 ай бұрын

not really. not if they make it the biggest deal in golf...which it would be. WHO actually compares to jack nicklaus and ben hogan? who deserves to be called the 'best' in the world? can they even score with hogan's clubs and nicklaus' clubs? would they be better than the heroes of the past? not only is there an opportunity to bridge the gap created by the novelty equipment, so that some continuity might be returned to our idea of statistical comparison... but also, the opportunity to provide perspective for the modern fan who has no idea of what has been sacrificed to greed over novelty gear...they know only a professional golf world of novelty equipment in the hands of a select group of novelty golfers...they never saw a ben hogan or lee trevino. imagine the 'monetization' of finding the next ben hogan or lee trevino? not to mention that professional golf deserves the continuity whatever the financial gain to those who provide it...their wealth will be in their legacy, and infamy. ask any wealthy person which is worth more, cash or stature? @@pjpredhomme7699

All this garbage surrounding golf is about $$$. No great revelation there. However, due to this stuff, as a fan I’m out. I’ll never watch the game again!!! Golf RIP

The guys on liv will not drive eye balls to golf and drive tv ratings… Without tiger golf is going back to the niche sport it was before tiger

Plus I’m so sick of the woke BS being brought into everything…..and that’s why you guys aren’t on TV anymore….cuz people claim to be offended by words…..can’t wait until people are as fed up as I am. Then and only then will things change for the better.

Golf, and the rest of the world suck….boring, nobody cares anymore….i don’t wanna see an event with music and teams….i watched the 05 masters the other day and it was absolutely amazing….i couldn’t look away….now I can’t watch. Literally can’t watch golf because I know it means nothing just like any other sport these days…..it’s fixed anyways. So boring, nobody really cares what they do and it feels like everybody gets a trophy like atmosphere. Golf is finished…..mark my words

@lionheartmerrill1069

5 ай бұрын

Fixed, finished? Whoa

@vektacular

5 ай бұрын

@@lionheartmerrill1069 yes sir….thank the lefties that run everything and ruin everything because they already have all the money. Things don’t need to be good when the people creating it have enough money to last 12 eternities. So what do you do? You still make stuff but stuff that caters to your world, stuff that is only good for the ruling class. TV of any kind is absolutely atrocious and if it is good they’ll make sure it gets cancelled or gets a makeover. Taking Tiger out in 09 was an early step to it too. We get a golf channel that doesn’t even show golf on it when it means something, announcing done by women who say things that a 7 year old kid could figure out, a PGA that doesn’t have any players and a LIV tour run by the gas companies that the ruling class doesn’t want you to have in your car or to heat your house. It’s so fake. All this woke BS, make stuff for 1% of the population that the other 99% find disgusting, bash men and the nuclear family and push homosexuality and tight clothes on straight men.

@pjpredhomme7699

5 ай бұрын

dude - have you considered seeing a professional - and I am not talking about a golf one. It's perfectly ok to be unhappy with circumstance - i agree with several points you made - but slow your roll - really.

@vektacular

5 ай бұрын

@@pjpredhomme7699 slow my roll?? I have way too much catching up to do. That’s how we got here.

I am astounded anyone watches golf any more. The tour has been sanitized and homogenized. It's boring. The players are boring. The play is boring. Just spray 350 yd bombs anywhere, pull out a wedge and plop onto the green. Some players seem to spend more time in the gym than the course. I haven't watched more than a handful of holes in over a decade. I don't give a rat's ass about any of the current crop of cookie-cutter players.

This sheets is getting boring. A really boring group of people here. Get a life, Kostis and McCord. Your sheet is getting old. Get lost.

I think a lot of people are backing off of watching golf. I know I have. I used to tune in every week. Now I don't care AT ALL about watching golf. Just a bunch of spoiled brat millionaires who NEVER have enough money. I don't blame the sponsors for leaving. The last tournament I watched was last year's Masters. Probably the only one I will watch this year too. I will just play golf instead, but at this point I'm done watching it. Congratulations Greg Norman. You destroyed pro golf completely. Nobody gives a shit about LIV.

@EnTitledTown

5 ай бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better, I feel exactly the same as you. I will say that I do still watch ladies golf.

@Barneyrubble241

5 ай бұрын

@@EnTitledTown I'm sure the Saudis have their eye on that too.