I really enjoy watching LIV. Every one of my friends who "hate" LIV have never even watched it. It is 4+ hours of golf. I get to see everyone, and the team aspect is actually compelling. I find it hard to watch a regular tour event after watching LIV. That isn't a dig at the tour, it is just a fact.

@kennethmckinney2532

9 күн бұрын

Yep. Besides majors it's just LIV for me now. I watched the PGA Tour religiously for over 40 years. I can't take the broadcasts anymore compared to LIV

@LegolasFan69

9 күн бұрын

@@kennethmckinney2532the major broadcasts are very hard for me to watch. So stale

@josiahthornton9125

8 күн бұрын

​@LegolasFan69 I don't fall asleep on LIV tournaments like I do on PGA'S. I fell asleep on the Master's this year. The only thing that kept me watching the other majors is routing for LIV players.

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

thanks Keith...it's for sure a ton of golf swings fast

@LegolasFan69

8 күн бұрын

@@josiahthornton9125 which they are largely banned from coverage… it’s a shame leaders in pro golf are so biased and power hungry and the media covers for them with propaganda. Thankfully things are changing fast

Ironically Tiger will be the end of the PGA Tour if he is left in charge. Also LIV will never become the senior tour lol, that's literally the opposite of what they are trying to do - which is attract younger viewers, and they are doing well so far because their average viewer is 20 years younger than the average PGAT viewer

@solenvy

9 күн бұрын

Yep, LIV is for a younger crowd. People my age have no use for it. The PGA satisfies my golf appetite, and the product they serve up, in my opinion is a more enjoyable product to watch than watching LIV golf. If I had grown up with an iPhone constantly in my hand, playing video games at every hour of the day & night, I would like LIV. Generation Gap.

LIV vs. PGATour Tournaments! It's so freakin simple!!!!

@cleveland2022

8 күн бұрын

Bingo

A pleasure to listen in on this conversation between two guys who get it. Meanwhile, the team that supposedly replaced them on CBS would have no idea what they're talking about. Unless the subject of clothes and haircuts came up.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

appreciate you moonlight!

@moonlightmelodrama

8 күн бұрын

@@kostismccord A wish. That you guys would do an online live commentary of the British Open. So we could turn off the TV coverage. And learn something.

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

@@moonlightmelodrama thank you, we've been talking about that, actually tried to do it a year ago round 3 2023 Masters but was a rain out (you can watch its up on our channel) we'll for sure do it soon and let you know! all the best

I want LIV to stay at 54 holes, and shotgun start. Golf with all players on course in the same conditions and my TV viewing time is under 5 hours.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

thanks for your comments!

@96per58

9 күн бұрын

Also love that you know who you are going to see every tournament. Everyone bought tickets for Nashville knowing Bryson would be there, unlike Rory who didn’t honor his commitment to the Travelers.

@kennethmckinney2532

9 күн бұрын

Yep same here. It's supposed to be different but still competitive golf. Having attended Greenbrier last summer I can honestly say it was wonderful and I've attended tons of PGA Tour events

@LegolasFan69

9 күн бұрын

Same… the shotgun is a superior format to watch on TV

@JDP11768

8 күн бұрын

LIV IS 54 in Roman numeral format

Gotta send Props to John Catlin standing in for Charles Howell III the last 2 events for Bryson's team having an incredible week in Nashville. Sacramento's finest great work

"They" don't want a deal, and they'll burn the tour down before they capitulate.

What Gary just described in terms of "someone to run the ship..." is supposed to be (mostly) Jay Monahan's job. It's not supposed to be a committee. None of the players know what the fu*k they're doing and they don't want to give up control.

@tomdallas3690

9 күн бұрын

Yeah, but Jay was getting the boot unless he caved in to the players. He handled Covid well, but couldn't have handled the LIV threat any worse.

@johnpaton8047

9 күн бұрын

Jay is terrible. There are so many better options. It aint tiger or herlihy. A retired player and a great manager is appropriate.

One of the dangers of being really good at one thing is think your good at everything! Just because your a world class golfer doesn't make you a world class negotiator. if the Tour players don't trust Jay and the rest of the board then they should go out and employee specialist negotiators that are looking after their interests and report back to them and stopping trying to play golf and be businessmen. You try and do both you will be crap at both! With regard to all games being played by PGA Tour, PIF, SSG etc. the real danger is the existing sponsors find other sports (with bigger viewing audiences) to invest in, and the golf viewers focus their time on the four majors and a handful significant events and the rest struggle to attract any sustainable viewing audiences they will wither and die. What nobody has been able to articulate over the last few years is how they grow the game to sustain the sums of money being talked about, and there is a danger the professional game goes into decline. Frankly professional golf is looking like a bunch of morons who cannot get their acts together, and by the time they do the world will have moved on and body will care......... PIF have much bigger ambitions than men's professional golf and just maybe the decide its not worth all the hassle and focus on the other sports franchises they want to build.....

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

appreciate your take Kevin thanks

Wow...they couldn't figure out how many years from 1974 to 1991. That is crazy.

@jeffreyprice2982

9 күн бұрын

17 I believe.

Great show guys.

Let’s talk about the US Open and LIV Bryson winning! I would love to here your thoughts about that

What a ridiculous suggestion for LIV to morph into the Senior Tour. LIV should merge with the signature events for the best players - some on teams and some just individual players. Combined tournaments would be 4 majors, players, 10 LIV. Players would also play 5-10 regular events which could include 3 FedEx Playoff events for those who qualify. There would also be a LIV Team championship.

WHY would anyone want to work 4 days a week when working 3 days a week pays far better 🤨🤯. Just to satisfy stick in the muds, living in the past dumb asses😮! Ridiculous. LIV Golf is waaaaaay more interesting than anything the PGA currently offers. The team concept is a plus, shotgun starts are relatable and keeps action in front of everyone. The PGA is boring television, bad, bad, bad announcers, unending commercials (playing through is just a 66%screen commercial 🤦), and zero marquee value. The PGA has gone out of it's way to piss off sponsors, venues and players. Once guys of MY generation gets out of the way (70), LIV will hold all the trump cards.

Tiger only worries about Tiger

Think about how many real problems we have facing us as a nation that lives in the small world with others and place the LIV / PGA merger in importance with that. Love K&M's take on most subjects. Might have done it already!

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

appreciate your comments thanks

It's 10.42pm now in Malaysia. Looking forward watching the show now!

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

appreciate the watch and comments!

I haven’t forgotten 17 of the 21 9/11 conspirators were Saudi. Last week a Saudi govt employee filming the Capitol was released and discussed by FBI. I’m disappointed in supporters of LIV. Honor, decency,and integrity should never be for sale to anyone, especially criminals.

The player’s Dunning-Krueger effect in full swing.😉

Signature event the week after US Open and the winner isn’t there.

@user-mt3rk4gt8n

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, stupid to have signature events around major's

The rest of us in the world we don't give a fling f--- It's about time the PGA change and we have a world tour.

Great show as always guys.

They need to have one voice speak as an executive for the PGA and stop making the players GMs as well. Players should focus on the one job that brings money to the table: playing golf, and let the business be handled separately. The whole thing is a mess. Time to reset, remove the players from the board, and appoint a new CEO.

@livingadreamlife1428

8 күн бұрын

The most intelligent comment posted on YT in sometime.

the problem with players like Cantlay having a major say is that he doesn't want to play anywhere but the us, take the ryder cup as an example. either you want to promote golf world wide or you don't, and as you've been saying, the pga tour will fall over if the tour doesn't have all of the best players available. the rusted on supporters will keep their heads in the sand, but that won't help the future of golf

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

we love the comments Peter thanks

As a former golf participant with the PGA of America let me say this as forcefully as I can. Their is NO WAY the PGA is going to dictate any type of terms to LIV Golf. The format of Team Golf I personally like I know some don't probably Kostis & McCord might be in that camp. The whole idea of team golf takes me all the way back to high school golf and junior tournaments. Liv Golf doesn't need the PGA Tour. It would be nice to see a format that mor than a few of the AMERICAN LIV GOLFERS play on the Ryder Cup, but that's as far as it goes. No one is going to fix this ship. The "advisory board" or whatever it is being called is a joke always has been stop supporting the PGA Tour if you want to give money to your local teaching pro that is great, but why support this dinosaur when it truly does not support the lower tiered players.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Money has destroyed every single professional sport. Golf will be and is now no different. Anyone who says "for the betterment of the game" is full of crap.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

speaking of $, Scottie projects to make over $50M this season in prize money alone! thanks for your thoughts!

LIV MUST invite you guys as internet hosts from home, and FIX CW Network's video resolution issues

Golf has truly become a global sport. PGAT is clueless and way behind LIV in making golf a high level global competition. In a few years LIV tournaments could be the new global majors. Also, golf teams have tremendous potential for raking in profits, especially if teams are aligned to countries. And what about team sponsorships? Can you imagine the “Mercedes Aces” or “Coca-Cola Fireballs “?

Is Tiger the best negotiator as a rep for the tour? Liv need to make more signings to threaten the tour into action and sort this mess out

I still think the under reported issue in all of this is, "What do the fans get out of this?". The new "for profit" addition to the golf tours means that the money has to come from somewhere and that can only mean everything gets more expensive for the fans. However this works out it means fans will pay more to attend tournaments, watch them on TV and buy equipment. I keep hearing "We need to GROW THE GAME", from pros and media. I think what this really means is they want to get on more even terms with what athletes and media people get paid in more mainstream sports like football, baseball, basketball, etc. If they want to truly grow the game it means having more people play golf. They need to understand that the biggest issue in getting more people to play is COST. I quit playing and didn't bring my children into the game because its just too expensive to play. I've found other activities that are a much better value for my limited time and money.

Personally, its great how it is now. Two options for fans and now they can compete in majors. Its great!

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

appreciate your comments

This apparently was filmed prior to the US Open?

I hate the shotgun start and everyone finishing on a different hole

They need to go to the membership of Augusta and ask for help. I wouldn't let Tiger balance my check book.

Ever since you guys talked about Chirkinian saying don’t talk during the shot, don’t tell me something I can see and don’t try to be funny I use that as the standard when watching golf broadcast. Well I love the LPGA but have to watch the broadcast on mute. Their standard is breaking every one of those rules and then some. They use a lot of “I”s where they’ll say I would’ve done this or I think she was thinking this. At one recent tournament, Morgan Pressel was saying about Rose Zhang after missing a short putt that “ that miss will mess with her psyche” then another imperfect shot and she said “she is thinking too much”. Well Rose birdies a bunch of holes down the stretch and wins the tournament where Morgan flips and contradicts her comments. How can you comment on what the golfer is thinking or reacting? They talk way too much instead of letting us watch what’s happening. It’s like constant conversation with the golf in the background. Unwatchable!

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

love hearing the comments! thanks for watching and listening

Not funny, but extremely funny 😂😂😂

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

appreciate it Richard

You are making this too complicated. World ranking points should be given to LIV with a 10% offset due to the 3 rounds and let the points qualify them for signature events on the PGA. More importantly, let the sponsors without recrimination sign on LIV players and open the TV market to LIV. It also allows PGA players to play for LIV in Invitational venues once or twice a year. This will remain at a standstill if the players have a say in the details. The players should vote on the general goals as a conditional agreement and leave the details to the business experts. If the PIF people leave the table, the PGA will weaken because the sponsors will bleed over to LIV like some of the players did. One TV network other than CW makes the move to LIV, then the venture capital will evaporate within 3 years simply because the business model only works as a monopoly. Can you imagine how many sponsors want to sign on Bryson, but they don't want to incur the wrath of the PGA? I agree selfish players with egos should not be on the board. It is a recipe for disaster. They are already in the lateral hazard knee deep in it, swinging at it, and can't get out. Time to take an unplayable penalty and go back to the tee and start over again. (Two club lengths will not do the job). Have a good day!

Us open Bryson ! Want to hear about that

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

we'll talk Bryson's big US Open Win and give our British Open (Open Championship) thoughts and picks in a little over a week...MAKE SURE to subscribe and click the notification button so you don't miss an episode thank you!

Use the tech to make the product better. Enhance the viewer experience not just fat wallets.

I have the "solution" have both tours hire me an average person with common sense to sit on these boards to listen and be the old vote. I'm retired an average golfer. If both groups pay me equal as well ad clothing (wouldn't want to look like an average golfer with a $60 outfit) and expensive. I can be available after July 15th.

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

sounds like a good plan! Thanks for your comment

This is a joke...lol Take Tiger...he is out for number 1...himself! Not only made sure he got the biggest cut of the pot ($100 mil) even though he is a total has-been riding the coattails of what he did 10+ years ago but also making sure he can play in all elevated events, not deserving it but just because he used to be Tiger Woods...lol These player-directors just worry about themselves...Spieth has done what in the last how many years...Cantlay has won what tournaments....a real window into the soul of the PGA

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

appreciate your thoughts thank you

I must have missed this. Who paid Woods $100 million, and for what?

@keithpanco

9 күн бұрын

The tour announced their top guys will get equity shares in PGA Tour enterprises. They gave Tiger the most, at $100,000,000.

Have actually lost interest in this subject re. "what is going to happen next". I will watch all LIV and 4 Majors as well as selected PGA tournaments ( the ones with full strength fields ) Good enough thankyou !! Administrators can continue playing their own chip on the shoulder games.

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

appreciate your take Eric

Give the correct world ranking points and everybody play away. Stop the grab.

Tiger I can win how bout make a cut...

Now Seth has thrown in the towel.

@kostismccord

8 күн бұрын

dropping like flies! thanks Graham

LIV as senior tour??

Lol, everyone wants 72 holes. So wrong.

AR will sell in golf if it's not overpriced...

PIF has enough money to buy the PGA Tour several times over if they wish.

@pjpredhomme7699

9 күн бұрын

right but what exactly does that do ? @ the end of it all there has to be some type of value for the $ that is being invested in these - and there really isn't any significant return on the $ being invested . That goes for both PGA tour and LIV. I know most of the LIV slappies think that PIF money is endless and is like a charity its not - there is supposed to be a pot of gold at the end of this rainbow - and there is NOTHING that indicates it is anywhere close to that

@2Thes22

9 күн бұрын

PIF could easily buy the PGA Tour 1000 times over. The PGA Tour has almost no value if LIV signs Scheffler and Rory plus a few others.

Liv is not going anywhere, you guys are still looking at it from a solely USA perspective, 330 million in the the USA 7.7 billion rest of the world, open your eyes

Peter & Gary have become true clowns now.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

sorry you feel that way Brian...thanks for watching and commenting

The PGA has no money , but pissed away 100 million to Tiger and lord knows how many more Millions to all the other people on that Screwed up board . PIV needs to just BUY the PGA tour and get on with growing the game, the PGA and USGA , have NO PLANS to ever grow the game , just line their pockets is all. Its why I have not watched the PGA in over 6 years or the Majors, just plain BORING SLOW ASSED GOLF !!!

@stevegraham2535

9 күн бұрын

Record it to try to avoid the negatives.

@shanewilliams1216

9 күн бұрын

@@stevegraham2535 Its the GUYS on the PGA tour today I do not care to watch, the ones I watch are on the LIV now and I stream it and watch it if I am not at work . Or watch it on youtube. I would rather watch the LPGA myself and tape every event even if I am watching it live.

800 people went to watch Bryson the week after he won the U.S. Open. The overwhelming majority of the U.S. golf audience doesn't care for team golf week to week. Heck, look at how much more popular the Ryder Cup is than the President's Cup. The Ryder Cup is the exception, not the rule. LIV has done nothing to revamp their format to appeal to the U.S. market. I'm fine with seeing the LIV guys 4 times a year at Majors. LIV is literally 5-8 relevant golfers: Rahm Cam Bryson Brooks Joaquin w/honorable mentions for the WASHED DJ and Reed.

@redstone5149

9 күн бұрын

That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. However, there are lots of fans who prefer watching LIV vs. PGA events. I like the team aspect more and more.

@DaringDan

9 күн бұрын

@@redstone5149 But the numbers don't show that at LIV events. 800 people showed up to Nashville to watch the US Open champ. What you're saying and what's happening in the US at LIV events don't match up.

@redstone5149

9 күн бұрын

@@DaringDan …LIV is young but steadily growing. Once it signs a major tv deal it will grow exponentially. The PGA tour viewership is down 35% year over year. They keep pushing a stale old product with a bunch of no-name golfers and a handful of stars. No way Scottie Scheffler would have won as many tournaments as he has this year if the LIV guys were playing in those tournaments. He’s playing against historically weak fields. Not a knock on Scottie, just facts.

@DaringDan

9 күн бұрын

@@redstone5149 It's getting stronger outside the US, not in it. Your points about the PGA are correct. Team golf will never be big in the US or else the President's Cup would be popular. Again, The Ryder Cup is the anomaly, not the norm.

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

here's GOLFWEEK article golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/06/24/liv-golf-nashville-attendance-records-liv-golf-us/ actually 40,000 in attendance

Gary, would you take Saudi 9/11 blood money ?

@shanewilliams1216

9 күн бұрын

How pathetic , just harping what the GOLF channel and Jay Monshan has pushed down your ignorant throat, EVERY COUNTRY has blood on their hands , and you don't worry about all the CHINA NIKE child labor blood that makes all that Nike Apparel do you ?? But thats ok because some POS commentator says it's alright for you to think that way . Bless your heart !!!!

@kostismccord

9 күн бұрын

Gary turned down LIV offer Kevin...thanks for commenting

@brianwalker4760

9 күн бұрын

Can we stop with “blood money” comments. Its getting old

@kennethmckinney2532

9 күн бұрын

​@brianwalker4760 really old. My country the US has done plenty of terrible things all over the world. Blood money. What a pile

either of you guys remember the last time a us open champion missed every fairway, but had wedges to every green? it's happened twice now, and no one seems to notice. it's a travesty and offense to the great players who had to learn to hit a drive on the screws, not simply swing a club the size of a volleyball as hard as a gorilla! your silence is offensive as well.

@LegolasFan69

9 күн бұрын

You’re a 🤡

@cleveland2022

8 күн бұрын

Huh? Offensive? They all played the same course and none of them could beat DeChambeau. Stop living in the 1960s. Do you still drive a 1950 car and think it's amazing?😂😂😂😂😂