Man, I would pay a weekly fee to have Gary McCord come back to golf broadcasting. Same goes for David Feherty when he was in his prime as an on-course guy, his skills just didn’t translate to the booth on the PGA tour (or LIV I’m assuming)

@nickmclean9401

7 ай бұрын

I agree, so much more entertaining with them

@ianniess4832

7 ай бұрын

Dave’s awesome in the booth. How can you even say that 🤷🏼‍♂️

@robertschissler1236

7 ай бұрын

Feherty is killing it on LIV he’s great 😝😉

@willchristensen4248

7 ай бұрын

Wouldn't it be GREAT if people weren't sofaking soft and you could take the kid mittens off these two guys and let 'em say whatever comes to mind? THAT would boost ratings and be hilarious

@Ebbhead2424

7 ай бұрын

Seems like he's obsessed with money.

I’m surprised McCord is more forward looking than the 2 younger hosts. LIV still pays well for individual competitions. The team concept is an added bonus and to add spice to the overall tournament.

McCord is such a good guy - and unlike a lot of players has a healthy ego - He does not even mention that he is the guy who came up with the 125 exempt tour. That is how he got known to the public in the game - and then Frank Chirkanian recognized that he had a lot of juice amongst the players and knew he was topped out as a player and tried him out as an announcer. the rest is history.

Love Feherty so much we named our dog after him

Excellent conversation Guys. Keep it up. Gary we miss you.

Team golf is a massive part of the game. Every competitive golfer grows up playing team golf… I played middle school then high school then in college… the pros have underutilized team golf until now

Great insights! Waaaayyyyy better than First Cut podcast. Those doods clueless homers

I think the team component only works if you go the Formula 1 route, but the teams need to be based around the manufacturers, not the players. So you'd need Callaway, Titleist, Taylor Made, etc. to get on board to build teams. And then have midfield teams, Cleveland, Mizuno, etc. included as well. That being said I still have a hard time thinking it will ever work given how individualistic it is (the tennis comparison is spot on).

@turangatohiariki3042

7 ай бұрын

All Jon Rambo sponsor's went with him to LIV

@RTTM09

7 ай бұрын

Sponsors stick around for as long as there are eyeballs on who they are sponsoring. Not all contracts are structured the same and unless the sponsors thought they were going to get negative public backlash by not dropping him immediately they are not likely to break their contract, buyout on the remainder, etc. So the real question is whether sponsors will renew with him when the contract term is up.

@andrewphilips2457

7 ай бұрын

The cool part of the team aspect is that if it's a boring tournament and somebody's winning by a mile, It still makes players competitive, trying to have a great round for their team sake, As it's still quite a few dollars on the line for them.

Gravy, Sleaze, McCord and Feherty are my broadcasting dream team. Unfiltered please.

If the club manufacturers jump in, it could change the game for LIV. Team Taylormade or the Korean team with lead sponsor of Titleist. It wouldn’t move the needle for me personally, but I could see how it would give more legitimacy considering how most golfers I know are so brand loyal.

Too bad Gary didn’t go head to head with Fenerty on LIV- that would have been pure entertainment

McCord is my favorite golf analyst of all time. He is genuine, funny, and insightful. He's a one-of-a-kind talent. Broadcasters can be so phony. LIV's main play-by-play guy is a total fraud. He doesn't even like to play golf. I don't trust any golf broadcaster who doesn't play the game for fun.

Rory's wife: $300 million? You putz!

Great ep - thx, gents - McCord's the man - an awesome bridge bet. the old school and the new. Who is the 2040 version of McCord or Feherty and how/where is that streamed/packaged? Likely YT, TikTok, sportsbook streaming services, or whatever Barstool-like channel can go high-dopamine with betting more seamlessly integrated into the live feed. ✌️💗⛳-Eric

Odd how you boys view LIV as TEAM Golf. Obviously they have teams, however winning and placing as an individual pays higher than the team pays. A viewer tunes in for the Individual championship, and the team aspect is a bit of a sidenote. Admittedly the names are a bit hokey. However, on the back 9 on Sunday both individual and team competition is quite compelling. And the best part, everyone is playing at the same time. This is vastly superior to the "morning" and "afternoon" tee times and switching around to different broadcast channels, and dealing with an insane number of commercials

Glad Tiger time was in my lifetime of being a golf fan. Herein it is up in air, and frankly after 40+ years, if it gets too weird as a golf fan , I can easily pivot in my twilight years. Having grown up in the Valley and golfing most of my life, I look forward to retirement and quitting golf and finding new hobbies, opposite of the snowbirds.

Gary is right...viewership is abysmal for both PGA and LIV platforms...and the PGA needs to evolve. KZread golf seems to be getting more popular because they're "people like us" playing and having fun with friends.

McCord is such a racanteur and cool guy

@Sincopare

6 ай бұрын

ra.can.teur; a person who excels in telling anecdotes

The USGA needs to stop trying to ruin golf!! #NoRollback #CancelUSGA

TV golf sucks now, unwatchable, commercials every couple of minutes. I record it and can FF past commercials and still can't watch. Announcers & coverage is boring. Liked McCord.

@kiplingvisintini5783

7 ай бұрын

bingo!!!!!!! a sad fucking joke.i watch the KLPGA.

@mikerogers1949

7 ай бұрын

Haha yeah I just watch the ten minute highlights on youtube

@pjpredhomme7699

6 ай бұрын

well - I agree with you on the broadcasters - god they are awful. Trevor Immelman ? seriously - makes it about as interesting as doing laundry

@mikerogers1949

6 ай бұрын

@@pjpredhomme7699 yip agree. Played junior golf with him. I don’t like how fruity and fake he sounds on microphone- natural ability to golf but not commentating. I think Colt should have his gig. More organic and funny. Love what Hank Haney says about media now… calls them corrupt media. All drink coolaid.

@allenmiller6198

6 ай бұрын

Have you tried the you tube golf its much more fun and light hearted alot to choose from. Check it out , it's not for everyone but I enjoy it

team golf might be interesting depending on how sports betting in regards to teams pans out...I really only watch regular tour events for the fantasy golf.

What is the youtube caddie video called?

Team golf, interesting, look at PGA Jr team golf, seems to be growing so keep an eye on it.

Two guys on a team would be interesting similar to how we all compete out there

As a Canuck could care less about Ryder cup. Team aspect of LIV is most entertaining part. Season end team tourney is really entertaining, adds a fun element. They're on to something there.

@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549

7 ай бұрын

What does you being a canuck have to do with you personally liking the team aspect? I hate it and it doesn't matter where I'm from.

@andrewphilips2457

7 ай бұрын

@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 that was more relating why Ryder Cup isn't as interesting. I'm not from USA or Europe.

@andrewphilips2457

7 ай бұрын

@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 also curious. Did you actually watch the LIV team finals weekend? I found it one of my fave events of year after the majors.

@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549

7 ай бұрын

@@andrewphilips2457 Some people love opera. I don't. I like PGA stroke play. I'm happy for you

@SiLoMixMaster

7 ай бұрын

@@andrewphilips2457 The LIV team finals weekend was brilliant, Bry58n in particular played some unreal golf. Rahm was the best player on PGAT in 2023, he belongs at LIV with his own team alongside the other major winners on the roster.

How can a 20 man invitation only event get WGR points?

@gzman1

5 ай бұрын

make it four days and cut a team or 2?

Gary is a smart man. Order out of chaos is the plan. Hence, all the chaos currently. People are begging for a solution already.

hey guys what about wonderful world of golf or cbs golf matches

Welcome Jon...smart move .best players are on LIV..

@dl4932

7 ай бұрын

Really ?

@SiLoMixMaster

7 ай бұрын

@@dl4932 Cam, Gooch, Koepka and Bry58n are 4 of the best golfers on any tour this year. Rahm was the best player on the PGAT in 2023, so he belongs with the major winners on LIV.

@TOMVUTHEPIMP

7 ай бұрын

yah but nobody watching or cares.

I watch the game of golf because it’s my favorite game. Tiger is my favorite golfer. I keep watching because he is still on the pga tour. If Tiger went to LIV golf, I would consider that his retirement from the game and I wouldn’t watch anymore. That to me would be a complete and total betrayal of Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus, they created the pga tour. I would watch him again, if he returned to the pga tour, if he comes out of retirement but other than Tiger, I might watch Rory. That’s about it. I have never bet on golf and I never will. I watch for the love of the game. I don’t need to bet on it, to enjoy it.❤😊🎉

Could there be any better follow up to Mikey C than to Have Gary on the chair!

How is that drink made?

i laugh at all the commentators talking about players changing their mind on what they previously stated, well what about Monahan and PGATs previous statements about PIF and what they are doing now.

PGA had massive power 60+ years ago, the realization that the players ARE the equity has finally eroded the PGA centralized power base incrementally over the years, and they (PGA) did not keep up.....the old school central power base was too ingrained, the PGA did not see this in time, even casual observers could see this was coming with the democratization of ideas and organizations and open source knowledge. How many folks knew the PGA tour was set up as a non tax paying not for profit organization ? Not until open knowledge and non profit watch dog websites did this even come to light. People are asking, "what is the PGA tour's added value to the system?" Not much, they organize tournaments and keep statistics and invest the retirement trust funds, pretty much it....and they are a licensing entity benefitting off the actual valuable equity base which is the player identity of themselves....players are the ones eyeballs want to see, literally not one person on earth cares about the entity of the PGA tour. Not one. By the way, Gary M is a gem, thinks outside the box, great guest. keep it going.

@pjpredhomme7699

6 ай бұрын

Because YOU did not know those things does not mean they were unknown.

@azdbuk

6 ай бұрын

True. It is a KZread comment with hyperbole, not a journal of scientific study, lol. @@pjpredhomme7699

Whoa, stay on the tour and play against the best golfers. Has he Forgotten that Kopka, Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, Dechambeau Bubba, Cam Smith, Garcia, Reed, etc. All of these and several more are easily among the best golfers. Either that or when they move to the LIV tour they lose their talent.

Tiger doesnt putt like he used to. Good swings are great, but if the putting fails him, there will be another injury to deal with.

Great show....but you must let McCord speak more...the two hosts keep interrupting him and dominating the show...

They are already starting it with kids . Most junior golfers are playing on teams.

@Yakamatsup

7 ай бұрын

Real teams not the dumb LIV crap.

@timothywinters7304

7 ай бұрын

@@Yakamatsup lol liv just Rahm

Wow so he said it! Tiger can win again…. Crazy

@TOMVUTHEPIMP

7 ай бұрын

Tiger can hardly walk, came in last in a weak 20 man field. Hes done.

Those two guys that say they don’t get or not into the team aspect of Liv I believe are either in denial because they are haters of Liv or being hypocritical. Competitors love the competition and golf is basically a solo competition. Now paired together in a team, that competition ramps up more so. When you play golf with your buddies, and you team up, golf becomes more fun, competitive and meaningful. I bet these guys feel that when they play teams with their buddies therefore hypocritical. They’re like Chamblee, once you take a hater stance, you cannot be objective and change your view because you will come across as phony.

McCord was always the best. Sorry Ferrertwits, that's a fact

@andynaz5631

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, but I also miss the no pussyfooting Johnny Miller. Love him or hate him he was very entertaining.

I love LIV and watch all the time. Easy experience to jump in and out. And they got the stars.

14:14

They are saying 3 to 5 hundred million dollars for John 😮

The PGA Tour will look like the Korn Ferry Tour if it doesn't complete some deal with LIV.

Truth is the system placed Majors at the top of the mountain. Gary points out the OWRG will disappear over time but for many of the top players their LIV contracts will be coming to an end. Question Why would PGA Tour not take back the top players. My prediction PGA tour JM Commish will never cut a deal with LIV owners, but surprise with a PE deal.

@pjpredhomme7699

6 ай бұрын

The ironic thing is OWRG was a created for Norman by his agent IMG as a way to drive up appearances /fees - I guess it goes back longer than most people - so most don't remember that but it is true. Same thing about President's cup - that was a team event made for Norman because he was the Marquee player at the time and was not eligible for the Ryder cup - so the tour / CBS created that event basically for him.

As for the "no one's watching" LIV. I can only speak for myself, but I watch every possible week I can, every day of the tournament. I also went to one when they came within 3 hrs of me. I watch on the app and stream it to my big screen. I also have setup my tv browser to have the website as a favorite, so I watch that way sometimes. If I'm driving somewhere for the weekend, I run it on my phone and listen. I don't understand the push back on the team aspect. Everyone loves their teams in Basketball, baseball, football. Especially college. And don't forget from the players perspective, they played on teams in high school, and college. They love having people on "their side". The teams are only two years old, give it a chance to mean something. Expecting everything to be perfect out of the gate and expecting to have some sort of attachment to the teams that are only 2 years old is weird.

It's Year 3 of LIV, they had to go all in. It's do or die because contracts of other major players - Kopeka and DJ to name a couple, plus Phil is old and becoming more of a circus act. The attendance and ratings are pathetic. Maybe PGA numbers ratings are bad too -- but Pro Golf, like Pro Tennis, has a max audience. Music, cheerleaders and vibrant colors will not expand the sport. I think this process will just dilute a rather small audience.

@pjpredhomme7699

6 ай бұрын

you are correct on nearly all your points - the only thing that I would differ with you on - is Liv seems to be interested in bringing tournaments all over the world rather than United States only. Otherwise yes there is a definite ceiling for golf. And that post Tiger ceiling is considerably lower but expanding the market international does bring a lot more fans - but no way are they paying this type of money to sell tickets to tournaments.

As a fervent watcher of golf on TV, this revenue stream discussion is totally depressing - guess I'll be watching a lot less golf in the future. 😕

@user-yy3iz2li3d

7 ай бұрын

They are missing the point even tho they seem to circle it when discussing the PHX open.

Sorry from way out in left field. Wondering all your thoughts on the you tube golf phenomenon. I enjoy immensely watching golfers who can laugh and have as the pros put it acutely Have Fun out there and Laugh . Pro golf has gotten a real narcissistic attitude as of late. Especially the PGA TOUR

Gary is speaking the TRUTH

Ya know.. the PGA tour could decide to NOT ban LIV guys. Lol @golfsubpar

You guys need to understand that the rest of the world don’t follow your sports like NFL, NBA , NHL. Golf however is a world sport not an American sport. Think outside your American bubble and the answer is clear. The PGA tour either becomes a global tour or a feed tour.

McCord is trying to explain what the future of golf will be and Colts not getting it.

Monaghan is the Bernie Eccelstone of F1....the players are finally realizing this...the PGA will become the Korn Ferry Tour...LIV will eat them all up...Tiger/Rory/Justin...it's over....the only thing that matters are the Majors..Ryder Cup...

@azdbuk

7 ай бұрын

Pretty much sums it up.

I totally agree with Colt and Sleaze about team golf - there's zero appeal for most golf fans and I'll actually enjoy seeing it fail and ultimately taking the Saudi money down with it. The Saudi Arabian blood money is the root of all of this evil. Also - betting has fucked up everything - I don't think these guys have picked any kind of winner ever LOL. The analogy with tennis is perfect - some sports are meant to be individual. I love Coco Gauff but it barely even registers that she's number 1 in doubles. I love McCord and I wish he was still broadcasting but the notion of team equity and the market forces that are needed to create it are miles apart. Also - the simulation stuff, while interesting is totally theoretical. Better stop there - I love this podcast - please keep up the great work!

@doug8515

7 ай бұрын

You're in a minority. With the average PGA TV viewing age of 60+ and white, golf was on a steep decline until LIV comes along. Now golf is viewed live FREE and all around the world, on youtube or the most downloaded sports app. Saudi money has been financing golf for fucking years, 23 PGA sponsors are saudi backed. Womens golf is in great shape with Aramco. You've been spoonfed shite from the anti-LIV media, try thinking for yourself you'll be surprised at what you can learn...

@bt2476

7 ай бұрын

Agree for sure on the appeal of team golf in LIV, it's just not there. But disagree completely in the Saudi's being the "root of all this evil". It may not be a popular opinion, but the PGA Tour created it, through complacency, and lack of foresight. If they actually listened to the grumblings behind the scenes and tried to evolve with modern times a bit more, none of this likely would have happened. The fact that Jay Monahan who is essentially the captain of the Titanic, is still leading the way as commissioner, is sad, very sad. That guy needs to go, and they need to start over with someone who has a strong backbone and vision for the future of the tour, and who can be trusted.

Leave The Yank Tour for the Yanks, they have no idea the goings on outside of their borders. Bring on the Liv World Tour PGA US Domestic Tour like watching paint dry.

@pjpredhomme7699

6 ай бұрын

yeah but play music on the tee - and its nirvana - of course it is - no idea what you people are smoking but been there done that. I don't see where the interest is - but one thing that I have confirmed - people see what they want to see.

Kids are buying Good Good apparel in droves.

Of course we all like Gary. But when you are paid massive amounts of money to promote the folks paying you its hard to be credible as an objective commentator.

Hope the economic collapse comes before GMs prognostications - ole fogey

Billionaires arguing with millionaires. Piss off!

Typical American to talk about equity, revenue and money. Who cares. Golf is about tradition that goes back hundreds of years. Golf and golfers make way too much money already for what they do. It shouldnt be the most popular sport on the front pages. It should have the slow pace. That's why I love watching golf from the PGA tour. No tv commercials either where I live. If you're going to LIV as a professional golfer that's already a millionaire, you're a greedy person that sacriface playing golf at the highest level and how it should be played. Team golf makes sense only between nations or continents like we have with Ryder Cup which also have a long tradition and history. The LIV product absolutely sucks. Who the f.. is team Smash?? No interest at all. And where's the talk about Saudi sports washing and human rights??

No easy answers here but know this PGA tour! I do not watch golf for just anyone! I watch golf to see the best on the PGA tour! Because the PGA tour is the established standard for golf worldwide! That is your revenue stream! You are the standard and your attitude should be "next man up" ! The answer is simple, Stay focused on player development based on who is the best player and quit trying to pandor to a story line or flavor of the day! Golf is an individual sport and that is a fact. Younger players today strive for the PGA tour! It is that fact that developed players like Jack, Lee, Arnie, Phil, VeJay,, Ian, Tiger Nick, etc. Take action now and make a statement to the rest of the world and this problem will go away because the LIV billionaires will eventually put their money in something that makes them more money and LIV is a loser from the word go!

Way to many advertisements in the first few minutes… on to next podcast 👎🏻👎🏻

Colt and the guys who are holding on to PGA are going to be left behind. With Jon Rahm going to LIV with his own team plus the other golfers he will pull with him team golf is here to stay. This is the tipping point LIV is the now the big dog

@mike191SF

7 ай бұрын

Nobody watches LIV with Brooks, DJ, Bryson, Cam, Phil………..why would they start with Rahm!?

@travis3889

7 ай бұрын

@@mike191SF 100% fact!

@robertschissler1236

7 ай бұрын

I work as a Marshall at a golf course and play with a broad spectrum of golfers from 25 to 80 and I could be wrong but I think this next year the viewership will grow in areas of Asia and Australia with their expansion in those areas. I mostly watch LIV and the majors and stuff like the Hero last week. Now that some of my buddies know about the CW they are starting to watch. Most didn’t even know about 58 shot on LIV. Golf Central and network coverage is afraid

@robertschissler1236

7 ай бұрын

To cover LIV because of PGA advertisers

@Yakamatsup

7 ай бұрын

Truly no one gives a carp about LIV and now we get to watch Rahm’s game go to shiat like Phil’s

NO ROLLBACK #CancelUSGA

LIV…make more money and work 20% less … no brainer. McCord pyramid likens premier league soccer.

Colt is almost as disgusting as Brandel Chamble lots of bravado and BS but couldn’t hack it on the tour

I quit watching golf when the PGA eliminated Trump's courses.....why do that? You just lost 60% of the US!!

Limit Flight balls 15 yds of 275 yds off tee higher Grass

McCord is wrong about everything.

This pod is painful. Snooze alert!

I will never watch a Saudi golf tournament

@jasonpitts8395

7 ай бұрын

Do you ever watch the PGA tournaments in China?