Andrew Bustamante: CIA Spy | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • Lex Fridman
    Lex FridmanАй бұрын

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Wealthfront: to get $50 sign-up bonus - LMNT: to get free sample pack - BetterHelp: to get 10% off - ExpressVPN: to get 3 months free - MasterClass: to get 15% off 0:56 - CIA and the President 12:34 - War in Ukraine 53:30 - Most powerful intelligence agencies 1:00:40 - David Petraeus 1:10:17 - Undercover disguises 1:23:16 - Human nature 1:32:36 - CIA recruitment process 1:49:19 - CIA and secrecy 1:55:52 - Cyber security 2:06:34 - Sexpionage 2:13:08 - Private intelligence 2:26:35 - NSA and Snowden 2:54:34 - Conspiracy theories 3:15:42 - CIA and UFOs 3:30:27 - Spy tricks 3:47:10 - Advice for young people

  • Nate


    12 күн бұрын

    made me reply

  • Dolermite Xpress

    Dolermite Xpress

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the best interview that ever existed. Brilliance is a vast understatement. There are no words. 😶

  • Raw Blow

    Raw Blow

    17 күн бұрын

    @Maxo Kream you r not THE maxo kream but at least you have good taste in hip hop

  • King of the castles bouncy castle and hot tub hire

    King of the castles bouncy castle and hot tub hire

    22 күн бұрын

    I u

  • The Rikkest
    The RikkestАй бұрын

    I like that Lex always has prepared questions but also goes off script when he's interested. He's the perfect AI.

  • captnwinkle


    Ай бұрын

    The most advanced NPC around. Would love to play the game hes in

  • Nick Perry

    Nick Perry

    Ай бұрын

    I estimate his IQ to be around 118

  • B24 Liberator

    B24 Liberator

    Ай бұрын

    Really? He sounds so bored!

  • Reine Dedeurwaerder-Sulmon

    Reine Dedeurwaerder-Sulmon

    Ай бұрын


  • Laura Tanner

    Laura Tanner

    Ай бұрын

    @Chad Zimmer weird AI

  • Impromptu Hoops
    Impromptu HoopsАй бұрын

    He finally found his dream job. Working for CIA as an ex-CIA.

  • Joe Berger

    Joe Berger

    Күн бұрын

    @Herzog maybe it's what you say. or, maybe it isn't and he's just giving info that isn't actually protected. who the hell knows

  • Herzog


    3 күн бұрын

    ​@JMP 01A2 Do you think the CIA allows some "former" CIA agent to say whatever he wants in public? This guy is a CIA agent, but not a "former" one, but an ordinary one. The right word for him is ACTOR. An actor who plays a "former CIA agent" and says what the CIA would like to be said.

  • seeker_of_knowlage


    10 күн бұрын

    Haha that was giod

  • citizen cain
    citizen cainАй бұрын

    Lex is becoming my favorite podcast host. No wonder his show is now in top 10 on Spotify. His positive attitude and great ability to ask amazing questions makes everyone appreciate him.

  • QthePug Howell

    QthePug Howell

    22 күн бұрын

    Lex pushes back politely and in the occasions that time will tell so far he has been proven to be the one who sees things clearly. It seems the war in Ukraine is yet another example. This interview also demonstrates that a persons self-confidence isn’t a gage for their accuracy, correctness or ability to predict outcomes.

  • Day
    DayАй бұрын

    "I like criminals, I'm friends with a number of criminals" - CIA guy

  • Лошадь


    8 күн бұрын


  • michael eli
    michael eli8 күн бұрын

    14:00 Well that didn't age well. And it it only took a month to prove him and his theories about Russia completely wrong. Good assessment.

  • michael eli

    michael eli

    7 күн бұрын

    @the dragon Ding Ding Ding We have a winner!

  • the dragon

    the dragon

    8 күн бұрын

    He had no points no proof what so ever. He just really wanted to sound edgy and like he had all this info and give us a different opinion other than mainstream to sound cool.

  • Mel Dube

    Mel Dube

    8 күн бұрын

    He doesn’t even tell us what his “data points” are.

  • Ké
    Ай бұрын

    Well played Lex, we finally got to the ultimate Turing test, can a covert CIA agent spot a covert AI. You won't fool me, R2D2

  • TheGizmologist


    Ай бұрын

    @alexis Juillard I love all 5 replies even though I can only see 2 of them.

  • alexis Juillard

    alexis Juillard

    Ай бұрын

    all answers can be found if you watch "this is my conversation with a goose. or is it a duck?" podcast best 2 minutes i ever watched, felt like 2h, fascinating

  • Matt Denney
    Matt DenneyАй бұрын

    When he named the 4 "secret" departments that would need to be put together in order to use the surveillance, I was like "check...check....check & check".

  • Randy Preston

    Randy Preston

    Ай бұрын

    @Chris P. Bacon The walls are closing in…

  • Chris P. Bacon

    Chris P. Bacon

    Ай бұрын

    @corey adamson add to that 87k IRS agents. We are screwed.

  • John Jameson

    John Jameson

    Ай бұрын

    @Spown All the best brother, we are taking in people as we speak and paying £3500 energy bills a quarter since your fight for freedom began. Not a waking hour goes by were I dont wish you well in your struggle and I am, we are there with you in spirit fighting.

  • exec sapp
    exec sappАй бұрын

    Lex: "so, the guy here sitting quietly is the one in control?" Person who just got done telling you they've been trained in the art of interrogation, and has been talking the entire time in complete control of what he wants to or not talk about: "oh absolutely"

  • aresres


    Ай бұрын

    @theophrastus von hoenheim Try not thinking with yours. Ding dong.

  • theophrastus von hoenheim

    theophrastus von hoenheim

    Ай бұрын

    This isn't an interrogation ya ding dong

  • Hazy Hunt

    Hazy Hunt

    Ай бұрын

    Gold comment

  • Vladislav Gapurov
    Vladislav Gapurov24 күн бұрын

    So, I would like see how Andrew would “analyze” the situation in the Ukraine, which is again quite the opposite of what he predicted would happen… Man, how I like such experts. Smart words, complicated explanations, but in the hindsight everything is wrong.

  • 東京 Taisu

    東京 Taisu

    21 күн бұрын

    Vladislav the field is messy

  • Mò Zi

    Mò Zi

    23 күн бұрын

    @toby hockenbury 😂

  • Kazzz


    23 күн бұрын

    @James Smith Why do you think this war is secondary to the economic ‘war’ they’re waging? It’s obvious that the first to lose in this war will have other institutions crumble under them. But expecting a russian victory or just a simple stalemate is obviously wrong, they were losing since day one.

  • Sara Miller
    Sara Miller10 сағат бұрын

    I've avoided watching any of Lexus interviews but now that he's been doing it for a few years it's watchable I feel like I learned stuff

  • Chiara D. Brown
    Chiara D. BrownАй бұрын

    Andrew: I am trained by the most competent spy agency in the world to lie to people and pretend that I am their friend and giving them something they want, but I actually have ulterior motives and am willing to do or say practically anything to achieve those motives. And even though I am not longer employed by the CIA, I still enjoy doing that in my personal life. Everyone: But he's not doing that with us!!!

  • N 3XSQ

    N 3XSQ

    Күн бұрын

    Thinking this too...once a deceiver, always a deceiver?

  • jett mulligan

    jett mulligan

    9 күн бұрын

    @scott bashaw I mean he did go on to say Russia would let them "be Ukraine" but with tighter restrictions on NATO and whatnot. They keep the debt to the US but now down to Putin.

  • dilanka


    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah, Lex got taken advantage by this guy and it won't age well. He's been SO WRONG on so many things I turned it off.

  • Lincoln Rockwell

    Lincoln Rockwell

    15 күн бұрын


  • Carpe Diem
    Carpe DiemАй бұрын

    1st-so glad Lex made it back safely; and secondly, this episode pulled me in. Straight to the point, not forcing any narratives. Simply (absent feeling lol) telling it like it is, right, wrong or indifferent. One of my favs ❤️‍🔥

  • Nick Klaus
    Nick KlausАй бұрын

    Great conversation Lex, remember, information is compartmentalized. I’m sure there were and still are divisions within our agencies that remain invisible/unknown.

  • Kenny Michael Alanya

    Kenny Michael Alanya

    21 күн бұрын

    Groups like the Patriot Front are an example. Always remember "these" goverments depend on "Order out of Chaos" to implement more laws and restrictions

  • Michael Rosen

    Michael Rosen

    26 күн бұрын

    Good point! This is especially important to remember in an age of conspiracy-theories. These agencies don’t work hand in hand and sometimes they directly oppose eachother. This makes colusion very hard outside of internal agencies.

  • Christinna Vega
    Christinna Vega29 күн бұрын

    This was a great interview…interesting guest from start to finish. Keep up the good work Lex!

  • Asimovum
    Asimovum19 күн бұрын

    His prediction about the war in ukraine aged fast and bad

  • MomentaryNarration
    MomentaryNarrationАй бұрын

    Loving Mike Baker’s new disguise, almost couldn’t tell it was him

  • ArtChurro1


    Ай бұрын

    Make Baker is wearing a level 3 disguise

  • Day


    Ай бұрын

    Mike Baker after his trip to Burning Man

  • D H

    D H

    Ай бұрын

    😁😛😁 Very Clever 👍

  • Jose Villa

    Jose Villa

    Ай бұрын


  • mcinb9


    Ай бұрын

    Ha ha savage.

  • Matt West
    Matt WestАй бұрын

    Having a father was in the CIA that has the world record for fastest foreign language understood (Russian ,2 weeks) who was also a world chess champion . I can confirm this guy drinks sparkling water

  • SpotOn
    SpotOnАй бұрын

    I for one can't blame Snowden for going to countries with no extradition treaty. Where the hell was he supposed to go?

  • Ross G

    Ross G

    8 күн бұрын

    Prison bro

  • Scoe Sixtray
    Scoe Sixtray25 күн бұрын

    So much for "just looking at the map" to determine who's winning. Analytics, common sense & current events " are a must when analyzing what's going on in any war

  • gerald828
    gerald828Ай бұрын

    I had a chuckle when the subject came up about the reach of intelligence agencies globally. Because i have joked for years about Chinese restaurants around the world being spy satellites.

  • Mr Sirman

    Mr Sirman

    29 күн бұрын

    Daamn bro, that makes a lot of sense

  • Grant Walker
    Grant WalkerАй бұрын

    Let me first say I found Andrew fascinating and agreed with a lot of his perspectives... except one... Andrew's argument on surveillance... His value proposition is that safety is more valuable than maintaining constitutional rights. This is where I (and many citizens) would disagree... To me... The whole point of having a military and intelligence apparatus is to protect not just the physical safety of the citizens of this country, but also to protect their rights. Most soldiers I know will talk that way... They're fighting for the rights of US citizens. We send men and women to die with that mentality. So clearly we believe as a nation that it's worth sacrificing lives to protect. Mass surveillance was itself a direct attack on the 4th amendment right of every US citizen. To me that's just as bad as physically attacking US citizens. It's for the same reason that Andrew said the US sees foreign data collection as a hostile offense. I'd argue it's worth the risk of missing another major attack on the US if it meant maintaining our basic rights as citizens... First of all, it's not like they don't have 1,000 other tools at their disposal. I'm ok with it being a little harder for them to do their jobs. Because at the end of the day... Without rights, what the hell is there to even protect?

  • warped


    10 күн бұрын

    @Andrew Ferguson the fact that he believes he’s doing work that protects the people, while working for a government that clearly does not care for its people is a good enough contradiction itself. Most likely the paycheck, benefits, sense of power that keep him living in his delusions

  • Andrew Ferguson

    Andrew Ferguson

    10 күн бұрын

    If you look closely you'll notice some other subtle contradictions as well. The biggest one, however, is his assumption that the 'true' information he had access to via security clearance was actually true. He said on the topic of Russian propaganda "why do you think that English language media is any different" but he seems entirely unwilling to apply that same skepticism to the information that he was spoonfed by the CIA. even though he later talks about the very sly and slow process by which the Agency recruits, spoonfeeding you one little crumb of information after another to lead you on a chase wherever they want you to end up. His entire career was to guide people's emotions and preempt their follow ups and create stories, why wouldn't he expect that the same people are doing the same thing to him. Also all the wrath on Snowden trying to demotivate anyone else from doing the same even though lex's read on public perception is so correct... that was cringe

  • Bob


    21 күн бұрын

    There is no such thing as constitutional rights. All rights belong to the people unless explicitly taken away by the Constitution and assigned to the state. The Bill of Rights is *redundant*.

  • warped


    26 күн бұрын

    I mean that’s literally why he got hired by the CIA

  • jaenicoll
    jaenicollАй бұрын

    The point at 3:31:00 about Perception and Perspective can be life changing. Fantastically explained

  • Nic Allen
    Nic AllenАй бұрын

    Great interview Lex! (from what I've seen so far). But I don't know why people say they can't trust anything this dude says. Do I expect him to be completely forthcoming, fvck no, the man was a spy. Am I surprised he supports mass surveillance? Not in the slightest. But these things don't nullify his pragmatic perspectives and interesting information. Take what's useful, discard what's not, exercise some skepticism when needed, and appreciate the man for sparking nuanced thinking and perspectives. That is what ol' Nicky boi will be doing.

  • Hridoy
    Hridoy26 күн бұрын

    Lex, great podcast as always. I'm really intrigued to know more about your views on Ukraine and inviting John Mearsheimer, a political scientist who've done extensive research on this issue

  • Tom Buzzelli

    Tom Buzzelli

    18 сағат бұрын

    @John B this guy is looking somewhat exactly the same. They are all talking about the legend of Russia, now Russia and it’s capabilities have been exposed.

  • John B

    John B

    3 күн бұрын

    Now that literally every single word mearsheimer has said about Ukraine was wrong he won’t appear in podcasts lmao

  • Mike Run
    Mike RunАй бұрын

    This interview would be complete with a live stream of Edward Snowden in the top left corner observing.

  • MrMcSnuffyFluffy
    MrMcSnuffyFluffyАй бұрын

    And, all of a sudden, there was a great spike in Peace Corps applications.

  • MrMcSnuffyFluffy


    Ай бұрын

    @Ignatius The first step in his recruitment basically popped up during his online application.

  • Ignatius


    Ай бұрын

    I can't listen to the entire 3+ hours. What does he say about peace corps? thanks.

  • Zorex


    Ай бұрын

    Maybe that was his goal?

  • Danielle M

    Danielle M

    Ай бұрын

    @Dark Kitchen Records 🤣 kind of creepy

  • Dark Kitchen Records

    Dark Kitchen Records

    Ай бұрын

    Lmao I lived in morocco and many families would host peace corps people. They document everything, including what the locals eat, what it costs, how it's prepared and would even go through their trashbin to see what they been eating in their absence. One of them had like a notebook filled with quotes from random people and conversations they've been eavesdropping.

  • abe
    abe22 күн бұрын

    Lex, When you ask your guests the powerful last question of "what is the meaning of life/ any advice for the younger generation" you allow accomplished individuals to provide guidance to a future generation seeking guidance. Like a young wonderer coming across a wise sage -- these nuggets are deeply valued and resonate In the back of your head while in pursuant of a journey. Thank you sincerely, the next generation

  • Adolf Hitler

    Adolf Hitler

    5 күн бұрын

    >nuggets Read as an auto correct of the n worrr

  • jenya rybakov
    jenya rybakovАй бұрын

    Lex, this is one of the best podcasts. Whether you agree or disagree with Mr Bustamonte, you can't deny he is well spoken, intelligent and smart person, great idea to interview him.

  • Isela
    IselaАй бұрын

    I would love to see what his handler would say in an interview like this.

  • Dragan Jagodic
    Dragan JagodicАй бұрын

    Brilliant person, Mr. Andrew, excellent conversation.

  • Justin M
    Justin MАй бұрын

    Lex!!! Great episode. Andy is amazing. The way this guy thinks blows my mind. CALL ROGAN AND TELL HIM TO HAVE HIM ON. I think it would be amazing to see these two sit down In my mind you and Rogan are the best out there

  • Antony Topic
    Antony Topic4 күн бұрын

    Great podcast. Both individuals allow for the other to finish their point

  • phaexus
    phaexusКүн бұрын

    I wonder if Bustamante has changed his mind regarding Russia winning the war.

  • Kdawg Rdawg
    Kdawg RdawgАй бұрын

    I think this guy uses his skills learned at the CIA to confuse and muddy the waters of every subject he speaks about. I hope Lex realizes this.....

  • EMS
    EMSАй бұрын

    It’s amazing how long this man can talk and how open he seems but still… didn’t really tell us anything we couldn’t already find out with a google search. These CIA guys are CIA for life

  • Jared


    9 күн бұрын

    @Jay in Japan was it treaty obligations in how they would go about re-integrating Hong Kong? I'm not surprised, the CCP is probably my least favourite political institution after North Korea and I hope they collapse and something better rises in its place. I doubt that their renegging on the treaty would mean anything much besides a further loss of trust for China internationally. It's not going to mean the "repatriation" is void. It would be better if the US hadn't so tarnished its international reputation and actual moral substance with its long slide into capture of so much of the government, regulators and institutions by those who bought the antidemocratic careerists who have no problem defaulting on their duty to the country and the constitution to sell their leverage for personal enrichment. So much of the US gov and institutions is in the pockets of elite networks with incestuous ties to one another all enguaged in cynical and self-serving power politics at home and abroad rather than carrying out their duty in care of the nation, the principles for which it stands and their fellow citizens. A deep moral corruption and rot has set in and the prognosis looks horrid unfortunately. The entire enterprise became a selective filter for sociopaths, small minded narcissists, shallow careerists and some truly diabolical psychopaths. Everything is increasingly disfunctional and teetering towards authoritarian modes of operation to get a handle on its own failure states and processes and inability to take responsibility if it means implying any wrongdoing or risking any reprisals from the statis quo. Honestly, it's probably beyond most people in that role.

  • Jared


    9 күн бұрын

    @Jay in Japan I just did a variation on an old Ron Paul talking point where he'd use the example of "what would we feel if China opened military bases all over Mexico..." I'm unaware of a co-etymology with Russian bots, but it's a relevant point for as long as pro-imperialist Americans seem incapable of understanding it. Try to address arguments and avoid ad hominems. Whether an argument has weight or not does not depend on who else might believe it. If Adolphus Hutler himself believed that it wouldn't make ot any more or less true.

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    @Jared Also your Ukraine-Canada analogy is an old Russian bot talking point, so nice outing yourself

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    @Jared RE Hong Kong: the CCP reneged on their treaty obligations to Hong Kong, so it's not just a matter of "that's China's internal business", cos it's not

  • Thel 'Vadam

    Thel 'Vadam

    Ай бұрын

    You really thought he was going to divulge state secrets? Lmao

  • Henry Rawlinson
    Henry RawlinsonАй бұрын

    I agree completely with this guy, except perhaps that russia won, but he's the expert, and I agree with the information war. The idealistic understanding doesn't represent the war correctly.

  • JDAlamo
    JDAlamo2 күн бұрын

    Lex's emotional sensitivities exposed. Great podcast

  • Sean Clark
    Sean Clark22 күн бұрын

    This was released on August the 8th, every word Bustamante said about Ukraine came to nothing. It's now September 13 and Ukraine are driving the Russians out on all fronts ....... so much fir being an expert

  • Sean Clark

    Sean Clark

    21 күн бұрын

    You’re smart ......

  • Forrest Franks

    Forrest Franks

    22 күн бұрын

    Bwahahahahahaaaaa hahahahaaaa hahahahaaaa they aren't pushing Russia out of sh*t...... Russia is eating them for lunch.

  • Dovydas Kairys
    Dovydas Kairys23 күн бұрын

    Well the part about the war in Ukraine didn't age well. 19:50

  • onetoolfan
    onetoolfanАй бұрын

    Dang! This fed is so cool, with his hippie shirt, his bandana, his cool guy long hair and beard! He's one of us! I now completely agree with his warped intepretation of freedom of speech and agree that all communication must be monitored and controlled, due to the threat of propaganda aimed at English speaking Russians. Big brother is actually pretty cool, dunno what we were all so scared of.

  • solconnection2


    17 күн бұрын

    he totally dresses like an undercover cop

  • Forrest Franks

    Forrest Franks

    22 күн бұрын

    The sarcasm is hilarious

  • Ruby Nibs

    Ruby Nibs

    23 күн бұрын

    @Kassandra That's what he's aiming for, but the man beneath the shirt is way too obvious!

  • DevinDTV


    23 күн бұрын

    @pstcontrl it's like you're calling them an NPC for not being an NPC

  • Dystasian Cat
    Dystasian Cat13 күн бұрын

    I’ve been saying this about Snowden for years… glad someone a lot smarter & more relevantly experienced agrees with me.

  • David Hernandez
    David Hernandez18 күн бұрын

    Great perspectives and conversation from both.

  • 1Ucanes
    1UcanesАй бұрын

    I just tried to trust everything a guy from the CIA said for the past 3 hours... How do you think that panned out? 🤦🤣

  • Bob Sawin
    Bob Sawin23 күн бұрын

    So much for that Ukraine "assessment" 😆 🤣 😂 Putin gonna win a lead brain implant! 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

  • Bart Swarm
    Bart SwarmАй бұрын

    CIA interviews for new recruits will just be an analysis on how well you can BS on a long form podcast.

  • Blingchachink


    Ай бұрын


  • Noah VanNote

    Noah VanNote

    Ай бұрын

    Hahaha yes

  • Kon Berner

    Kon Berner

    Ай бұрын

    Best comment!

  • Alex Lakhter
    Alex LakhterАй бұрын

    Lex, man, what an interview, fantastic. Andrew is pragma-brilliant. Speaking about private intelligence organizations - George Friedman, I know not your uncle, is right in Austin. Please get him on the show, and thanks for all your work you've done, well inspiring.

  • Robert Marshman
    Robert MarshmanАй бұрын

    Amusing to hear Fridman talk "hearts and minds," his automaton voice belying what is on his part an almost entirely emotional argument, and subsequently hearing him get a dose of reality from Bustamante. Fridman coming out in opposition to free exchanges of information is also cute, if not unexpected.

  • The hood don’t love you
    The hood don’t love you27 күн бұрын

    If you dont see the genius in this man then you are sleeping heavy

  • djbigtymer
    djbigtymer19 күн бұрын

    Wow how Andrew was off. Listening to this right now after the Харків push.

  • ole370
    ole370Ай бұрын

    "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals" - Edward Snowden.

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    @DaHamburglarGT "he did everything correctly" False. You don't know what you're talking about

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    People actually in the know know that Snowden is no hero

  • JayJay ChaDoy
    JayJay ChaDoyАй бұрын

    This guest has brought out more of Lex, so this has been an interesting exchange. Also, he is full of confidence, or maybe over confidence?

  • Heather Reis
    Heather ReisАй бұрын

    1 of my fav interviews yet..Love being surprised by super interesting people!😁

  • Freddy November
    Freddy NovemberАй бұрын

    Its funny how this guy has to explain secrets to us and why we all know we keep them

  • HD
    HDАй бұрын

    I hate the CIA, best episode of your podcast so far!

  • Estefano G
    Estefano GАй бұрын

    “Any society that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

  • Boyce Q Kennedy III

    Boyce Q Kennedy III

    Ай бұрын

    @Tanner G sorry it was Benjamin Franklin

  • Payton Kruse

    Payton Kruse

    Ай бұрын

    @Tanner G Benjamin Franklin

  • Tanner G

    Tanner G

    Ай бұрын

    Abraham Lincoln?

  • VanJam®


    Ай бұрын

    @Κλασικός Ρεπουμπλικανισμός και Κεϋνσιανή Οικονομία than you agree, estefano is saying anyone that gives up liberty for security deserves neither. Giving up liberty brings you closer to being a slave.

  • Κλασικός Ρεπουμπλικανισμός και Κεϋνσιανή Οικονομία

    Κλασικός Ρεπουμπλικανισμός και Κεϋνσιανή Οικονομία

    Ай бұрын

    I disagree. No one deserves enslavement or suffering.

  • Men And Women Are From Earth
    Men And Women Are From EarthАй бұрын

    I love Andrew's cold, empirical approach - you know where you stand. What an interview! Well done, sir.

  • Alan Sterling
    Alan SterlingАй бұрын

    One of the most interesting interview that I’ve heard in a ver long time. Thank you!!!

  • Election Interferer

    Election Interferer

    14 күн бұрын

    CIA bot

  • Max Nebesny
    Max Nebesny4 күн бұрын

    If you start fact checking this guy, most of the stuff doesn't add up

  • patison4ik5
    patison4ik5Ай бұрын

    ""At the moment, we are prioritizing security assistance for Ukraine, for which they will not have to pay back later," a White House official said. According to him, the Lend-Lease program provides that the equipment received is paid for, while other programs under which the United States provides assistance to Ukraine, such as the USAI (Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative) and the Presidential Drawdown Authority program, do not stipulate a refund." So US is indebting Ukraine, but not really. Doesn't mr CIA agent read the White House press releases?

  • aresres


    Ай бұрын

    @Arie te Stroete If you read the Defence news here in India, you'll see that confidence in Russian hardware has only increased. That said, India's veery slowly shifting towards greater local manufacture, and whoever's most helpful on that front wins.

  • Armin H

    Armin H

    Ай бұрын

    @patison4ik5 that could be the trade in as well

  • patison4ik5


    Ай бұрын

    @Armin H you are totally right. However in this particular case it may not be money from lend-lease. Maybe US is interested in Russia’s defeat because of some geopolitical interests. All I’m saying is the mr CIA agent is bulshitting a little bit.

  • patison4ik5


    Ай бұрын

    @Choctaw Love it’s not the question. With this judgement you can question literally anything, even that the earth is flat and the govt has been lying to us.

  • aimsdrew9
    aimsdrew9Ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed the interview and liked hearing Andrew’s perspective. However, one consequence of choosing a career built on a foundation of lying means that every thing you do or say can be disregarded. It was very telling that he said the CIA tends to recruit people who have a fluid/conditional relationship with the truth. When you’ve embraced that worldview you’ve eroded your trustworthiness. It’s too bad because he seems like a good dude… but then again, he would want you to think that wouldn’t he? Live not by lies.

  • Ryan RJ

    Ryan RJ

    Ай бұрын

    @aimsdrew9 but I do agree with you that constant lies where even 10% of them are discovered as a lie will erode trust in the system and cause more chaos. We see that constantly in politics. There's definitely a happy hybrid of lying and not lying in order to have a successful society

  • Ryan RJ

    Ryan RJ

    Ай бұрын

    @aimsdrew9 with all due respect, I doubt even your or any of our imaginations can think of every single possible scenario and the outcome of lying vs not lying. There could be a ton of reasons why lying is crucial to keep everyone feeling safe and calm. I would wager that most of the listeners to this podcast are more comfortable with the hard truth but there's a MASSIVE amount of the population that couldn't handle the hard truth and would either panic out of fear of not always feeling safe or riot because they lack the intellectual capacity to understand the truth at its full depth. Sometimes the truth is extremely complicated and alot of people's eyes would gloss over just trying to read all of it to the point where they just don't care and want the abridged version (which opens the door to conspiracy or overall misconception). All of what I said can also lead to societal decay that you mentioned

  • Ryan RJ

    Ryan RJ

    Ай бұрын

    Well said...I'd wager to say politicians are pretty similar haha

  • aimsdrew9


    Ай бұрын

    @Lev Venguerov I I hear your perspective and I can tell you believe that, but I disagree. I think speaking lies leads to individual and societal decay. It’s okay to disagree.

  • Imani Kaliid
    Imani KaliidАй бұрын

    One of the most engaging conversations i’ve seen in a very long time. Thank you.

  • Tom Van Den Berckt
    Tom Van Den Berckt25 күн бұрын

    I listened to this on sep 14 and I’m blown away by the level of cocky assurance of this guy’s assessment of the Ukraine war. If this is the type of work the cia provides, no wonder they stuff up so often.

  • Lucas T

    Lucas T

    Күн бұрын

    @Jake Hamlin No. Just plain no. UKR wartime economy can sustain this war for long with western backing. Western states are committed to continue. The winter is going to be unpleasant in ie GER, but going back to RU gas imports is not an option. As for UKR dept, it is going to be big. Is it going to be worth it? GB repaid its last WWII dept in 2006. I think Britons would say it was worth every penny. If you want to hear about the economy of this war from somebody that actually did his homework (in contrast to Bustamante) I can really recommend this (use the 1.5 speed option):

  • Jake Hamlin

    Jake Hamlin

    8 күн бұрын

    Gonna be a cold winter for Europe, some EU memeber countries already putting limits on gas/power use. Eventually I think he will be correct with the end result, ukraine doesnt win either way, the debt will drain them of their natural resources. Ukraine recently granted a 2year debt freeze because they were running on a 4billion per month deficit and GDP is dropping at 35% annual. Their bond market has crashed 80%. They have already taken land backed loans from EU and IMF to cover interest payments on the existing 128billion. Over 100billion rebuild estimate and no end in sight. Donbass vote is going to be very defining in what direction russia decides to take it from here

  • Lucas T

    Lucas T

    23 күн бұрын

    Colonel John Spencer has called out the "analysts" that did this kind of predictions to justify themselves publicly. I would really like the two to have a public discussion. Bustamante seems to be what Lenin called "useful idiots".

  • capitandelnorte


    23 күн бұрын

    it's still sept. 12. But I agree. I think it can probably give us a good idea of how the intelligence community thinks, including Putin. In this mans mind there seems to be no room for autonomous will and spontaneity in political action, things the ukranian people time and again have shown themselves very capable of. Their revolutions have not been typically about east/west, but about trying to create a better future for ordinary people by taking control of their lives from corrupt financial and political elites. But to this guy, any revolution is only people being pushed around by either one or the other external political interest, pawns on the chessboard of the great game of nations. I think those kind of ideas may come from spending so much time manipulating other people and breaking them down quantitatively into bits of power that you think you can use.

  • Roger Rogers
    Roger RogersАй бұрын

    this is a great interview and lex's questions are perfect. really grateful i watched this, and have this as a reference for current events. this is a really valuable analysis of the world.

  • Crawfish π

    Crawfish π

    18 күн бұрын

    Bustamante, with big inquisitive eyes towards Lex: "... did you know that the UK did not pay off the debt from WW2 until 2020?" Uh, wasn't that around 2006? Meh, he's ex CIA. He's probably got a handle on basic facts...

  • Donny Burnside
    Donny BurnsideАй бұрын

    Brilliant podcast, one of the best i've ever seen.

  • Truth_hurts
    Truth_hurtsАй бұрын

    Yes the NSA is focused only on threats to national security. Except their idea of national security is protecting their power not the security of American citizens. Any American citizen who threatens their power is considered a "national Security" threat. Even if that citizen is democratically elected representative.

  • Truth_hurts


    9 күн бұрын

    @Jay in Japan all that box ticking clearly has had detrimental effect on the quality of their agents...

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    LMAO shows what you know about the NSA 🤣 what, you watch a podcast or two, read a few articles, and think you know something? 🤣

  • Gh0st


    Ай бұрын

    The FBI just did it too, mike glovers org that helps citizens has been considered a threat the national security, basically calling them a terrorist organisation

  • Vladimir of Svalbard

    Vladimir of Svalbard

    Ай бұрын

    @Zultzify No idea, but I think one of them lives in Florida at Mar-a-Lago.

  • pbhatia
    pbhatia28 күн бұрын

    This guy is like a cool youth pastor for the cia

  • ANNAlysis
    ANNAlysisАй бұрын

    Really enjoyed this conversation.

  • Richard's World Traveler
    Richard's World TravelerАй бұрын

    I remember getting in a car accident in the Middle East. I would say it was 90% my fault. But the police agreed that it was the fault of the other car with a woman driver 😃

  • Richard Wade
    Richard WadeАй бұрын

    Just the most informed, knowledgeable, intelligent interviewee. So I was really surprised when he described the possibility of intelligent life forms visiting Earth as science fiction due only to a preconceived notion of his. It is definitely not science fiction. It is definitely science. Science is always about researching that which is not known. What the results will be of this scientific research into UAP now happening in quite a serious way just can't be predicted but visitation by intelligent creatures is certainly one of the possibilities.

  • loodi-KSA
    loodi-KSAАй бұрын

    I'm no expert but I am someone who knows a thing or two about a thing or two and after watching this and I can safely say that Andrew is definitely STILL an active agent, not former.

  • Billy


    15 күн бұрын

    was it the way he got international geopolitics so hilariously wrong? Kind of a CIA hallmark.

  • 1776isLife


    Ай бұрын

    @pstcontrl the paper you are referencing is a NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) I’m sure that he is still being controlled to some extent. You never truly retire from that line of work.

  • Maison Hamilton

    Maison Hamilton

    Ай бұрын

    @Moe Sesay 1000000%

  • Sandpaper
    Sandpaper15 күн бұрын

    Really fascinating conversation. My grandmother was a CIA analyst for a long time before retiring around Mt. Sunapee managing the Yacht Club and Stone End. INFJ here

  • Sandi Caranovic
    Sandi CaranovicАй бұрын

    Lex I like you more and more, love the 9/11 questions!

  • Krystof
    Krystof3 күн бұрын

    Longer I watch this interview more interesting it gets!!!!

  • B. Newsome
    B. NewsomeАй бұрын

    He frightened me to death when he talked about Mossad and their commitment to their citizens.

  • USiddiqui
    USiddiquiАй бұрын

    Andrew was mostly consistent except when he said he was okay with a surveillance state without the permission of Congress... "I'm okay with the NSA having all my passwords for that safety." He kept speaking of empirical evidence. There's no empirical evidence that the mass surveillance saved any lives and that the mass surveillance would have stopped previous attacks like 9/11. Snowden may be a blip, but his reasoning was far more sound than the way Andrew made it seem in this interview.

  • The Rogue Heretic

    The Rogue Heretic

    Ай бұрын

    Yes !

  • spitfireap77


    Ай бұрын

    It’s unfortunately not uncommon for people from that world not to be able to keep the big picture.

  • Sam Gaballa
    Sam Gaballa2 күн бұрын

    At this point anything he’s saying is classified he’s also been taught to sound convincing he’s infiltrating KZread very tactical 😎

  • Achintya
    Achintya7 күн бұрын

    This guy can get people to talk amd express ,no wonder he was choosen for important positions

  • AMiR E
    AMiR EАй бұрын

    this guy is amazing. someone should get andrew bustamante and Jocko in the same room, Now That would be a great talk.

  • Carlos M
    Carlos MАй бұрын

    And I’m cracking up at all the couch intelligence “professionals” who can’t point Ukraine on a map, giving their couch “professional” opinions.

  • Aaron Michael Daley
    Aaron Michael DaleyАй бұрын

    Love how he went complete poker face with the JFK questions and the drug questions. I'm betting Bustamante is 100% still in the CIA.

  • GreenGhostMan


    Ай бұрын

    @J. Vazquez There are operators all up in media. Some that are openly in the intel community and some that are covert. He could easily still be in CIA.

  • Mike Lemmerman

    Mike Lemmerman

    Ай бұрын

    @J. Vazquez thats the point. Of course youd doubt it.

  • D G Noel

    D G Noel

    Ай бұрын

    @lobes117 there is no ex in that alphabet

  • In Search of Truth

    In Search of Truth

    Ай бұрын

    @J. Vazquez why not? He is an influencer. To tickle ears and be paid for it. His “business” depends on tickling ears so you spend money.

  • RinpocheMinds
    RinpocheMindsАй бұрын

    Thanks to you both, I think that was time well spent.

  • Jared Williams
    Jared Williams19 күн бұрын

    I have listened to so many podcast. This has topped them all. Thank you for interviewing this individual

  • Joonas Karl Kuusik

    Joonas Karl Kuusik

    16 күн бұрын

    but he has been proven to not be correct in a months time

  • david lennon
    david lennonАй бұрын

    I dont get into politics so this was a valuable piece of content well worth my attention - I am starting to like your interviews, Lex - I dont care what everyone else says about you ;)

  • earl bonie

    earl bonie

    22 күн бұрын


    CHUCK THOMASАй бұрын

    Didn't think I would like this at 1st but man this is good. Cool he pointed out French espionage being so strong. I have thought that before that but never heard much about it. But makes sense from a historical viewpoint.

  • I suck at Gaming
    I suck at GamingАй бұрын

    I remember Lex and Joe talking and asking themselves if an agent ever came on their podcast to do the propaganda.... Well, here is your answer..

  • Rebecca Bode

    Rebecca Bode

    20 күн бұрын

    @Bob really where ? Give me a time ? Like 4:15 ... Im seriously interested

  • Bob


    21 күн бұрын

    @Rebecca Bode No he wasn't. He went into full cognitive dissonance when he started lying. He had whole body reactions.

  • SpenzoStar
    SpenzoStarАй бұрын

    “Spoken like a typical human” is probably the funniest thing I’ve heard all week

  • Gary B
    Gary BАй бұрын

    OMG Lex is so nieve if he believes what he said about Zelensky, and how "the world" sees him

  • Dan Tomlinson
    Dan Tomlinson19 күн бұрын

    Wow Lex this has been my favorite video so far, Thanks💙

  • Brand & Development
    Brand & DevelopmentАй бұрын

    This dude looks like such a normal guy it makes him the best spy 😂

  • Sole Food
    Sole FoodАй бұрын

    This dude is definitely deeply engrained with his service to this country. It has him with some heavy blinders on. Definitely makes you realize you can't trust anyone in the government

  • Jay in Japan

    Jay in Japan

    9 күн бұрын

    @Alex Brewer country, actually

  • Highest Pariah

    Highest Pariah

    Ай бұрын

    @Sole Food Absolutely he seems like a good guy and I’m sure he would treat anyone who came into his home with the utmost hospitality and respect - none of that changes the huge bloody skid marks that the CIA has left on our country.

  • Sole Food

    Sole Food

    Ай бұрын

    @Highest Pariah true. Just seems like a decent guy at the core but the more he talks the more I see he's been compromised and won't ever see things any other way.

  • Alex Brewer

    Alex Brewer

    Ай бұрын

    His service to the CIA, not the country.

  • Highest Pariah

    Highest Pariah

    Ай бұрын

    I mean... he has every eyeball in the CIA and shadow govt watching what he says. You wouldn’t talk shit either lmao

  • david rodriguez
    david rodriguez9 күн бұрын

    I would’ve never guessed this man would be cia I thought he’d be a hippy Bravo cia bravo

  • Russell Brewster
    Russell Brewster19 күн бұрын

    Lex is so romantic about everything that it reaches a level of naivety...he wants to believe that hearts and minds are the most important factor on the conflict even when the expert reaffirms over and over that it's about economics and money and power.

  • Kenneth Lemke
    Kenneth Lemke21 күн бұрын

    Lex I find you a extremely interesting person. You do fantastic interviews. Any plans to go to Russia soon? Your able to converse with the intellectuals and ask vary good questions. You have a extremely high IQ.

  • Text me on Telegram 👉 Official_OniZombies

    Text me on Telegram 👉 Official_OniZombies

    20 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos soon send a direct message I have something special for you 👆💌,.

  • Thomas Willman
    Thomas WillmanАй бұрын

    Thank you Andrew, perception vs. perspective!

  • Filip Mit F
    Filip Mit FАй бұрын

    This guy is a spokesperson for the CIA 100% xD All the horrible CIA shit is actually great hahaha

  • Michael Thomas

    Michael Thomas

    Ай бұрын

    @Beunibster I agree on the privacy I just think he's saying since we really don't have any any way it wouldn't necessarily hurt to play ball if it helps keep us safe

  • Tobias Reaper

    Tobias Reaper

    Ай бұрын


  • Beunibster


    Ай бұрын

    @Michael Thomas But it doesn't. And I'd rather have my privacy.

  • Michael Thomas

    Michael Thomas

    Ай бұрын

    @Filip Mit F what he was saying about "happy" was that he would happily give up his and his family's personal privacy which anyone who uses the internet doesn't really Have anyway if it meant keeping American safe from outsider wanting to do harm to us and the country as a whole.

  • Franky Junior
    Franky Junior19 күн бұрын

    Going back and listening to his Ukraine analysis is interesting. Some of it is already leaning towards being wrong. And this is what I hate about listening to "experts" on any one subject because I have learned the bigger the organization the less anyone person will know how things work (at least at the granular level). Gov't agencies already operate in basically siloed information hubs within office/departments let alone across the entire agency. Regular gov't agencies work on a need to know basis in any non-classified setting because as a gov't worker you are not productive if you are listening to a briefing that has nothing to do with your job or department (for that matter most private sector jobs work like that). I won't pretend to know how classified settings work in gov't, but I am very familiar with non-classified setting in govt, so cia, fbi, nsa and all the other intelligence agencies are going to silo information even more then regular federal agencies. But, who knows maybe classified information is shared more then non-classified information LOL not being sarcastic at all 😉. Which, to bring it back to my point is that any single cia, fbi employee, etc is not going to have a comprehensive understanding of every topic discussed and they might not even have a comprehensive understanding of what their own field is because of how large a topic it might be, for example most departments have a whole team dedicated to doing analysis on that topic let alone multiple agents doing the same job. Now, I'm not saying that any single gov't employee in the CIA or FBI can't have a operational understanding of how things are done or as we like to say, a 50,000 feet understanding of how things are done. But, the take away is that even people that understand how things are done rely on their employees reports and other departments reports to make their own reports and assessments and every single one of them will still ask questions even if they have been doing the job for 30+ years, so that's why listening to a single employee that arguably was not that high up in the CIA is not a great temperature gauge of how things are done and take their assessment with a grain of salt as they are probably making wild assumptions about all the parts they were not involved in. And in my experience even people that have worked in any agency for 30+ years still don't know basic questions to things that they sometimes work on. I mean, think about it the amount of information is always going to be too much to remember over any long period of time especially 30 yrs. I'm not knocking this guy for his age but he looks too young to have gotten to senior leader level at the CIA.

  • Jic Jac

    Jic Jac

    16 күн бұрын

    Agreed it's interesting to hear his Ukraine analysis not age well, but who knows how long this war will last.

  • Maple-Sizzurp
    Maple-SizzurpАй бұрын

    Our police service has a newsroom and shows crimes everyday so can see who got busted from drugs, guns, robberys etc. As does our federal police service.

  • Mister Beach
    Mister BeachАй бұрын

    When you google for Andrew Bustamante, you'll notice how different he looked a few years ago. What a difference hair, beard, and general appearance make.

  • 東京 Taisu
    東京 Taisu21 күн бұрын

    Talking about MBTI, ENTP + ISFJ = Dual relationship, which is very common between colleagues who work together over time. Because your social circle and hobbies are so different you usually don't interact much if you're not put in the same situation. But at work this can work out pretty well and then people miss each other's qualities when they're not around. Pretty cool. Lex is an INFJ by the way. INFJ's are really good programmers and the best type in listening skills. And they have a dark / alternative side they do things like Grunting it's quite interesting.