Thanks Woody for rounding all this up (no pun intended). I'm a huge Korg fan and boy have they been busy. Looking forwards to trying some of this stuff out.

Woody I LOVE this style of video, you reacting honestly to synth news!

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

oh great to hear, thanks, was in two minds about doing it, but the video is performing very well, so must have done something right!

@dwsel

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack 1. I think you might be on the algorytm wave currently. A couple of months ago I wasn't getting all notifications about all your videos (still have some missed ones to watch). 2. I think it was quite fast reaction to the news on Korg's new releases. I got it from you at first then other videos on the subject started to appear in my feed.

@kiko1935

5 ай бұрын

@@dwsel agreed. I was not even aware about the new Korg synths and wood man's was the first I saw

Those Korg modules 🥰

Adjustable tabletop modules is a great idea. So tired of having to buy mounting brackets just to get the proper angle.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

exactly, well put!

That Grandstage X looks really interesting. I get stormtroopers' helmet × grand piano wing vibes.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

haha, yes you're right, spot on!

@brian6556

5 ай бұрын

Will not be able to contend properly with the new Nord Piano 2 with that Kawai Piano Action...

@ElektronicCricket

5 ай бұрын

Ha😂 indeed … I have to try this … it’s a SV2 with more features and sounds … I’m wondering about the quality of the piano sounds. Hope to see a 73 version (this one is heavy)

@zapmando

5 ай бұрын

Matches PS5

Indeed, a powerhouse rack with the trio! I wanted a Modwave, but that tiny screen needed to be in the middle of the panel just an inch above the keybed...now that is not a problem with the modules. I bought an NTS Korg just for the effects processor, can use in the aux loop of the mixer.

Korg is the only big company offering rack/desktop modules these days. So very cool. Korg is listening.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yep, it is indeed very unusual and much requested

@DorisDay-lw4xs

3 ай бұрын

MOOG ? DFAM. M32. Subharmonicon. ? All rack mountable.

You raise an interesting point about the disadvantage of slanted/raised control panels like on the new Grandstage and the Nord Grand. The bigger problem with them is that if you wish to do pro touring, you need a much larger/thicker hard case to transport them in. It's a problem even with the Moog Phatty/Sub/Subsequent series. At least the Voyager and Minimoog allowed users to lower the panel into the chassis for easier transport.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

another excellent point well made!

@opticalman6417

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack hi woody

It is smart that Korg is reusing the same form factor over and over. They now have 4? synths in the same chassis. That saves a lot on R&D. It should be helping to push down the price

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yep, i count 4 as well, smart move, i imagine internally they share a lot of design too.

@kristofaxelson5088

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack It’s convenient for gigging musicians who want to upgrade without buying a new case.

The NTS-1 is entirely digital. The bordering on unique feature is that they've documented how to write plugins for it to make oscillators and effects. I still haven't tried, personally, but that's opened it up to third party programmers, so there are extra ones you can buy and some made for free by amateurs.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

nice, thanks for the info

I’m so pleased to hear you mention the audience seeing your hands… it’s important, and the main reason I stopped using my Korg SV1 in public. Everything I’ve owned since has been a flat top.

@geoffk777

5 ай бұрын

I agree that it's a serious problem. After all, on a real Grand piano or upright, you can always see the players hands from the front of the instrument. Oh, wait a minute...no you absolutely can't.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i suppose the difference here is that most keyboard players aren't on stage playing an acoustic upright or grand, so it kind of is an issue for live use and audience interaction.

@geoffk777

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Mayve, but most older instruments obstruct the players hands like B3, Rhodes or Whirly. Even a lot of synths get in the way. I've never heard this complaint before and I think that it's pretty odd.

@jonathanscott01

5 ай бұрын

@@geoffk777 Try working to an audience, facing them. If they can’t see your hands they genuinely (and yes, ignorantly) say “He’s not really playing that” or “Are those record decks?”. It has happened. Why do you think all the keyboards you’ve listed, are always positioned side-on? That doesn’t work for most of us.

@geoffk777

5 ай бұрын

@@jonathanscott01 OK, I can appreciate that this could be an issue. But it's one that keyboard performers have been working around for literally centuries. If sitting sideways isn't an option, you caould always put a mirror behind yourself. Or put a smaller keyboard on top of the piano so that people can see you playing that.

Only ones worth the time or money are the rack versions, the rest is meh. Where’s the Kronos MkIII Korg? The Nautilus is not a replacement for the mighty Kronos.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

that is indeed the killer question!

@speakingcolors

5 ай бұрын

The KingKorg Neo looks promising tho but I guess it depends which type of sounds and music you make. For me the wavestate even tho looks cool would be vastly under-used in my setup. Modwave, OpSix and Neo however 🤌

@Madmohawkfilms

5 ай бұрын

Id love a rackmount Nautilus tbh

@DorisDay-lw4xs

3 ай бұрын

Decent musicians can make music out of anything

great video what do you think about the new seqtrack from yamaha ? a concurrent to electrbe,elktron groovebox ?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

very interesting indeed, especially with the FM tracks, competitor to teenage eng it seems to me. great strong move from yamaha. wouldn't mind trying it, but I can do all that in the maschine+ that i'm still trying to master.

Korg has without doubt produced some cool gear, though I do find a lot of models fall short in a critical area like using mini keys, not enough polyphony, small keyboard, and we see all of those things here. I think these shortcuts are designed to give a competitive pricing, though you feel you are not buying a 'full' product. I would much prefer the approach of starting with full size keys on an appropriately large keyboard as a given and then cutting your cloth to the price point after that - or raising it if need be. The flagship products are great, though perhaps not always the best value...? I like the kits which is an innovation.

@TooSlowTube

5 ай бұрын

Personally, I'm much more comfortable with mini keys, and Korg make some of the best ones. I prefer the Minilogue XD keyboard to the Yamaha Reface series.and both of those over full sized keys. It would be nice if they made everything in more than one format though. I'd like to be able to buy things with 4 or 5 octaves of mini keys - which Yamaha did once, with the PSS-480/580 and PSS-680/780. I guess there's a limit to how many different versions they can keep in the shops at any one time.

Une excellente vidéo comme toujours 🎹👌

I would like Korg to remake the Prophecy and the Z1. Those were wonderful synths. Was a big fan of the ribbon controllers.

@garyhendrie4001

17 күн бұрын

Had the prophecy, have the z1. Both are amazing synths

Do you know if wavestate rack is the first or second version (mkII) of the synth?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

most definitely it will be based on the latest!

11:41 the fear of being cancelled is real lol. Great video.

@kiko1935

5 ай бұрын

too funny. Woody is just a polite fellow

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i gotta take real good care of the 5% females in my demographics, it's already 45% too low :)

@carlosfedericolopezspindol3103

3 ай бұрын

A perfect idea to pair with the Keystage with PolyAT

Had to listen to it again so beautiful angelic voice peace and love

Used the original Kaosspad with my DX7. It really gave the sounds some welly.

Now we just need Roland to turn up the heat in response and release a JD-Xi 2.0 based around their ACB engine! 🤞🙏😁

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, bring that on, c'mon roland!

Good job Woody. I’ve always liked the Korg brand and still love my Kronos 2.

The Neo looks like the Minilogue too. Grandstand reminds me of the Kross 2. I own both. I'm happy with Korg. Only problem is with them keeping up software that goes with their products. They don't seem to keep up with new Mac OS.

@GizzyDillespee

5 ай бұрын

KingKorg Neo kinda looks like a Minilogue mated with a Roland Gaia 2

I just ordered a used Opsix (with keys) for $700 (before tax) Canadian. What's the upgrade with the new one (MK2)? I wonder if I should be cancelling my order and get the new one? It say that the, "In opsix version 2.0.0, the EFFECT operator mode was added. When using this mode, the oscillator signal and input signal are fed into one of 10 different effects, including delay, comb filter, and distortion." Is this a big deal? Edit: I'm seeing there's more upgrades than just the effect operator mode. Makes me wonder if I should hold out but feedback would be appreciated!

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i'm not an expert only having used the software, briefly. anyone?

Love the sound and design of the Montage M8 a true Kronos successor. Way to go Korg 😮😅🎉

Great overview, thanks Woody! I wonder, whether KORG might release a new version of the Microarranger somewhen. I'd love to get such a compact arranger keyboard 🤩

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i agree, that would be very cool... maybe i3 has taken that position in the lineup, even though it is not so micro.

I am totally with you, Woody: Nine (in words: NINE) products from Korg is simply ... that's outstanding. Little shy side note: I think the »Korg M1« is still the best selling synthesizer of all times, but nevermind. You're video is just too god to get into nitpicking (and yes: I am a fan, but not a fanboy, of Korg). I personally still wait for the »Carbon8« of Modal ... which implies Modal Electronics could catch themselves from bakrupcy (which would be really a shame). But if Modal will not present the »Carbon8« (for whatever reason) ... well ... the »Wavestate Module« is MINE! 🙂🙃

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, i also hear people saying the M!, but after 20 years of production, and for a budget synth, you would expect MK to win (unfairly( thanks for the comment!

@henrikfisch

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Again: I am not going into nitpicking about the M1. Just what I had in my mind. And - most important - thank you for all your videos ... which are so inspiring. 🙂👍

going to tell my boss I'm going to need a raise....

Agree re: vocoders! Used as a subtle harmonic backing to a clean vocal, however, and they can be lush - check out Sting - "What Could have been" from the Arcane soundtrack.

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

Maybe Woody isn’t using a full frequency sound to get enough articulation.

@peterharrison5833

5 ай бұрын

Also, Herbie Hancock's You Bet Your Love. Vocoders are cool--it's like any other instrument, just depends on how musically you use them.

The Korg Wavestation is in fact easier to edit than most other digital synths, because of the macro and copy functions. The Wavestation has loads of functions which may look complex, but for basic synth sounds it is a lot easier than a 01/W, or a Roland JV-80.

@DorisDay-lw4xs

3 ай бұрын

Ive used a Wavestation since I bought a Wavestation AD in 1992/3. Its as easy or as tricky as you make it really. I rarely make basic sounds on mine as thats not where its strengths lie. These days I have wavesequence charts all over my walls with all the lanes drawn out and work like that. Probably sounds way over complicated 😂 but if you saw it, you’d understand. These days Im happy with the Native version. It sure makes the most unique patches out of all the gear I’ve got.

I have never played a Arranger in my life as good as Korg Pa5x , I have been playing with it ,,it is amazing ,,,!! and I want to get smaller synths to add with it ,, full size keys like the new Korgs shown in your video Woody ,, Playing these synths makes my life much more enjoyable , Love Korg Love Yamaha as well ,,, and yes Woody the white synth looks amazing and sounds amazing as well just what I herd of it in the video ,,,

@mrz80

5 ай бұрын

One of our worship leaders has been lugging her PA588 back and forth every time she plays. We finally gave her (and her longsuffering roadie husband 😀 ) a break and got a new stage piano/synth (a Studiologic Numa X Piano - wonderful keyboard for live performance btw). She's ecstatic that she doesn't have to move the monster any more and she can leave it set up at home full time. The PA588 sounded wonderful but LORD is it heavy, and she says she has to do too much menu-diving when she's playing. She likes the more straight-forward interface on the Numa.

Is amazing big like ❤ 2:39

I have a Novation Summit, a Hydrasynth Deluxe, a Yamaha Montage, a Roland Fantom, a Digitone, Syntakt, all being controlled by a Digitakt. I thought I had the ultimate setup, and I wouldn’t want anything else. Then Korg releases these three desktop modules. Aaaaaah.

Can you ask Korg when they are going to fix the Pa5x issues?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i already heard they are working on it, it will come but it must be done right.

No Kronos 3? That is surprising! I guess Korg doesn't mind loosing platform market share to Yamaha & Roland. It's years over due. Nautilus doesn't cut it for many. Strange to see them focus on the low end market. Besides a Kronos 3, if I were Korg, I think the market could have used new models of the King Korg and WaveState/OpSix/ModWave in 61 key variety (the industry standard synth size), but not in a premium quality build like they did with the WaveState & OpSix later on because the prices were just way too high, but at a reasonable price point, but not junk either. Something to as an alternative to Yamaha's MODX or Roland's Fantom 0 or to pair with them. The premium build quality of those just made them too expensive for most people that would have been interested, but the 37 key versions were way too small. Instead of $700, maybe $900-$1000 or something like that would have likely appealed to a lot more people, especially those using them in bands. The original King Korg sounded interesting. I was amazed it was not widely distributed. I never saw one on demo in a music store to try the way the Kronos & original WaveState/OpSix were.

@daeone1514

5 ай бұрын

King Korg was 61 keys, twice. This go around is a bit odd. But when the original King Korg, Korg had the a serious line up. Kronos, Krome, Kross, King Korg. All 61 keys and up. Korg must got something up their sleeves. Unless Roland and Yamaha sowed it up cause it he fantom and Montage M are super keyboards. Kronos started all of this madness cause when that joker first came out, it changed keyboards forever. It’s safe to say that Roland and Yamaha finally caught up and won.

Nice but I think Akai is blowing everyone away with the MPC key 37 because it’s a little production studio, sampling synthesis everything in one. I believe it may even have stem capability too which is almost like magic.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, saw the leaks today and i am pretty excited to find out more...

13:28 - that's what I love!!! :D

Hello and thx a lot Can y ou check whether the desktop versions are the ones of the latest updates of the keyboard versions or the ones of the originals ? Wavestate MK2 and modewave were updates last year indeed. Thx a lot Francois

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i bet they are the latest, makes no sense to build something new from an old platform, but check specs manuals etc

@francoischavalle8168

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShackwell therefore my question cause in the wavestate desktop, you don’t see MK2 appearing

8:58 What is the FC-1 engine? That (and the VOX) are not from Nautilus or Kronos.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

right about the vox, i am clueless also about FC-1

@chaosme1ster

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack From the Grandstage website: The tone wheel organ sound source "CX-3" is a perfect reproduction of the famous Korg combo organ. The transistor organ sound source "VOX" reproduces the sound of the VOX organ, which was released in the 1960s and had a great influence on popular music. The other transistor organ sound source, FC-1, reproduces the small organ that dominated this era along with the VOX organ. Combined with the rotary speaker effect built into the sound source and the vibrato effect, you can really enjoy the pleasure of playing the organ.

KORG also made the best rompler synth ever in the 90s: 01/W

Professional nr1❤❤❤

I love how you're reviewing the demo guys as much as the keyboards haha 😂👌

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

that's funny because it's true!

9 new old products - will sounds better)

Iv got the original nts1 so the new one looks great having the sequencer and better keyboard the kaoss pad looks good too but im a bit apprehensive to order them as when i got the nts1 it had missing parts lucky it was just the side cheeks i was able to make my own

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

oh jeez, you shouldn't have to do that. good save though.

OpSix doesn't do DX7 patches, unless they changed something.

Agreed. Luke from Korg is such a character. And yes, 8-note polyphony for a dual layer thing in 2024 is a bummer. You either only play an extended chord or a triad and a bass, God forbid you dare playing 2 notes low octaves and a 7 in the upper register, that's only for the upper echelon....

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

and remember to pull down the Release so it doesn't cut out! yeah, we shouldn't need to care in this day and age...

@DarkSideofSynth

5 ай бұрын

My DX7II 35 years ago had 16 voices in single and 8 in dual. The more I look at my old gear, the more I realise it often offered more than what they currently put on the market: they cut corners everywhere: no aftertouch, no velocity or only via MIDI, crippled sequencers, and so on. Keep you old boxes if you can ;) @@WoodyPianoShack

@wonderwheel80s

5 ай бұрын

@@DarkSideofSynth Please, cut the BS. First, your DX7II 35 years ago costed much, much more than the new MicroKorg. Second (and most importantly) VA is much more computationally costly than FM, that's the reason why there's no VA synth on the market with more than 24 voices. Save this "old good times" crap for your next secret competition.

@DarkSideofSynth

5 ай бұрын

Back in the '80s people like you would have been take care of for good. It might just happen again. @@wonderwheel80s

@wonderwheel80s

5 ай бұрын

@@DarkSideofSynth Apart for the fact you're not answering to any of my arguments, and you're only attacking me personally, please elaborate. What do you mean? What would have happened to me "back in the 80s" exactly? I'm all ears. And how it might happen again? Please tell me, I suspect this would be funny.

Any thoughts on the Korg SV2, Woody?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

after all these years, i've never played one, apart from a quick jam in the music store. should do something about that, will keep my eyes open for one used.

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

My thing is, Korg doesn’t innovate on key beds. That RH3 action is 25 years old and came from Technics. I think it works fine for EPs and other things, but I don’t like it for pianos.

Agree on the poly thing if its a digital synth you could expect a bit more

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

If it’s based on component modeling, that takes a lot more DSP.

@inetnomad3521

5 ай бұрын

Think of similar Synths at a similar price range... they're all 8 note polyphony. Cobalt8, Hydrasynth, prophet...

you are so right about polyphony it has been a frustrating stopping point for me a certain Synth and also you are so right the stuff we have in 80's, 90's and 2000's had far more polyphony.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

more poly AND multi-timbral, but prople will counter that I am sure by saying they were much simpler sound engines. well processing power ha increased x1000s since 1980s. for me, simple algorithms and more poly always better than complex algos and low poly.... :)

@odmusicman

5 ай бұрын

You're correct, that would be the counter. Bad argument. And If I pointed out that the Behringer Pro 800 is 8 voice and saves patches the the OB-XA is 16 voices and has 512 user patches, they would say "cheap parts". @@WoodyPianoShack

The microkorg 1 can do an extra interval per note without voice stealing from the polyphony, so 8 note chords! An extra 5th Jerry Fielding!

I would love to get a Grandstage X. My only problem is with the “swept up” display area. I’ve got a baby grand piano shell from a company called “Keyhole” and I’m almost positive it wouldn’t fit inside. I use a Yamaha MX88. I’ve got a few Korg keyboards and love them, but I’ll have to pass on the Grandstage. Great video as usual, Woody!

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, probably these high instruments would not fit in a shell, but it would be a shame to hide those sweeping curves anyway. cool with your shell, nice idea.

Those Opsix/Modwave/Wavestate modules look pretty nice. Sadly no new Volca’s, even though the first models celebrate their 10-year anniversary. It would be nice to see some new models next year (with some feature updates to keep them competitive with Roland Aira compact range). The biggest omission has always been the lack of “offical” midi-out, adding the ability record the knob movements into a DAW through a midi out would come in handy on the Volca Bass, something that the Roland S-1 has covered.

@sawtooth808

5 ай бұрын

But do the OpSix/Modwave/WaveState modules have an audio input for processing audio signals (especially something like the Modwave

@EdgyNumber1

5 ай бұрын

I do get the feeling that Korg's starting to move away from Volca to focus on these types of machines. A shame because these are fun little live performance devices and I've seen some awesome homemade set-ups.

I always hoped they would make a small Korg Gadget Keyboard with all the Gadgets.

The Hardware route is the tens of thousands route. They certainly look cool though.

Unlike the classic one, this one has a looper and an autotune with vocoder. I am sure that for that reason alone, all the people who produce TRAP and Reggaeton music in South America and Europe will want to have this gem, because this is one of the few portable and manageable autotune that exists. Microkorg has a feature that no synthesizer has, this synthesizer has 2 line inputs to be able to use one more synthesizer and a drum machine, or any audio equipment, on its audio channel. This is very common in analogues, but they always come with an audio input to the filter, minimoog, MS20, ARP 2600, Minibrute, Minifreak, are some things that have an audio input. King Korg doesn't have inputs, neither do the new OPsix, Modwave, Wavestate. It's a great price for the utility value for the hardware. really with 3 things you can play live with this keyboard, really great if it's in good hands.

I had the wavestate. The keybed was woeful never used it always had it connected via midi to a decent controller

@-The-Darkside

5 ай бұрын

I have no issues at all, better than the minikeys on minilogues etc, but I generally route all my synths through a master keyboard anyway. My worst keybed is the deepmind12, though I do love the synth itself.

@hozzer68

5 ай бұрын

@@-The-Darkside I don’t do mini keys ever, I like my FATAR keybeds. The Bolofeld was one of the nicest synth keybeds I’ve used.

@furiobisotti8150

5 ай бұрын

I play live in cover bands. So mini keys are for me completely useless. A new synth with 37 keys is more or less the same. Difficult to be used live. I liked a lot old KingKorg, so I will check this one too. But I am probably planning to buy an Hydrasynth deluxe. 6 octaves, poly AT, ribbon and massive synth power. 1,5 times the price of KingKorg Neo...

@DorisDay-lw4xs

3 ай бұрын

I just use my Nord Wave as my master keyboard. That plays nice ❤

I can't wait until they release the new microkorg XL U

On stage you usually can't see the keys player's hands anyway. in fact when i set up my keys on stage I go sideways on so the audience can at least see something. I can also get better eye contact with the other band members and can also easily ignore the audience if I choose to! I've always wished my Nord Stage 2 had a tilting control panel, the other glaring omission on the Nords is a simple numbered patch with a keypad for direct access to a patch number, like every cheap home keyboard has as standard.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

thanks for the comments, good points, i'm also an angled side facer on stage. or you could do the Derek Sherinian thing and angle the keyboards towards the audience, always thought that was cool.

@willdatsun

5 ай бұрын

Yes or fit a huge mirror above the keyboard!! @@WoodyPianoShack

BIG AGREE ON VOCODER - never really cared for it. Now a Roger Troutman talk box built into a synth? take all my money!!

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

very interesting idea! not sure about the hygiene though! makes me think twice about buying used synth again... :)

@kiko1935

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack HA

Aren’t all 3 of these engines and more in the Nautilus. LOVE that they doing Desktop/Rackmounts but dunno if I’d bother. Now a Nautilus Rackmount that would get me EXCITED ;) may look into grabbing the VST of the Wavestate. Trying to unload a keyboard to make room for a Nautilus

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

none of the engines in these new products are in the naut, afaik.

@Madmohawkfilms

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack My memory must be going. Thank you for clarifying.

Vox (Continental)?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yep, just puzzled about the separate engine, since nautilus did vox sounds without it.

Korg introduce a lot of old products in new boxes. There isn't anything genuinely new here. Just updates and new formats. Vox is the Vox Continental transistor organ model. Talking into /vocoders is IMHO using them wrong, much like talking into Heil Talk Boxes is using them wrong. I prefer the Rupert Grenall (The Fixx) approach of using vocoders as a performance enhancement, using your voice as a controller.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

some great insights, thanks! yeah, this must be some vox conti sound engine, interesting because this is not available on nautilus/kronos

@MFitz12

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack - Korg makes (or made - I don't know if it is still in the catalog) a Vox clone organ that has that and the CX-3 engine. It's orange. Can't miss it.

Yes, vocoders gravely Star Wars robot sound, I don't like it. BUT...I bought the Roland JunoDS just for that vocoder. I use it for choir sounds, and I can layer more than just one patch over the vocoder, so I have layered 3 vocal patches, plus I plan on layering another 3 vocal patches from a Korg Triton engine. To hear a sample of these vocal patches go to time 28:57 and 33:30 of this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaBmys2tgqrIqaQ.html

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

cool. thx for the links, just to clarify, i'm not bashing the korg vocoders but every vocoder i've ever tried!

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene

5 ай бұрын

Yes, me too, bashing all, except this Roland JunoDS.@@WoodyPianoShack

Rehashes of old stuff.

A lot of polyphonie on 80' synth was pricey, a dx7ii fd in 89 was about 14500 francs with a cheap x stand plus 2 OR 3 floppy discs sounds banks if you were a strong persuader .With a flight case.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

sounds about right to me. right, it's important for sounds with long release or sustain pedal

@wonderwheel80s

5 ай бұрын

And it wasn't VA. Why people can't understand VA is much more computationally hungry than FM or wavetable (that incidentally was what you got back in the 80s)?

Det var verkligen goda nyheter, spännande!

Sorry if you never used them how can you have an opinion? And sorry again if you buy a relatively cheap synth how can you expect a 128 voices poliphony?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

my opinion and reactions are about the release videos and specs. and 20 would be ok, it is 2024 not 1984.

Agree Woody with your comment on vocoders. Where is the army of customers demanding this feature?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

Still no high end workstation?

hopefully a chance to get a kaoss pad after alll this time

I would 💘 a NEW & MORE POWERFUL KING KORG , That can ALSO BE USED as a MIDI CONTROLLER for OTHER SYNTHS . And BEING MORE STUNNING in APPEARANCE !

After all the releases it may sound odd if I request one other thing from KORG, but,,, how about a true successor of the KRONOS from the King of Workstations?

From Korg's page for the Grandstage X: "Grandstage X features a distinctive design that is instantly recognizable and is destined to become iconic. The solid, painted aluminum body is designed with smooth curves, and the curves that rise from the bottom to the sides are made of perforated metal. The vintage and futuristic look of the design is combined with a light ivory white top panel, creating a striking presence." "The tone wheel organ sound source "CX-3" is a perfect reproduction of the famous Korg combo organ. The transistor organ sound source "VOX" reproduces the sound of the VOX organ, which was released in the 1960s and had a great influence on popular music. The other transistor organ sound source, FC-1, reproduces the small organ that dominated this era along with the VOX organ. Combined with the rotary speaker effect built into the sound source and the vibrato effect, you can really enjoy the pleasure of playing the organ."

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

They can’t bear to say Farfisa🙄

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

so glad to read about the premium build quality, good on you Korg!

The price of that Neo is ridiculous for what it is.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, it is pricey, usually prices tend to settle down some months after launch.

@wonderwheel80s

5 ай бұрын

The only other VA 24 voice polyphony on the market is the Clavia Nord Lead A1, which is 1600. Why everyone keeps saying that this is expensive is truly a mystery.

As a KORG user for the past 20 years I wouldn’t spend another dime on Korg product because I have a bad experience they come out with a new products, but they don’t solve any issues with the product I Purchased Korg Pa5X and it has been two years they did not solved any of the issues with the OS way too many bugs I returned it.

I noticed the big smile on your face when the Grandstage X was shown. Would Woody like to test drive this one ?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

that was mainly because of luciano's chops! not a keyboard i'm personally on the market for, my numa x got me covered there... but sure looks fancy, well done korg for a bold new design!

Omg They are as productive as you are dear Woody …. News all the time

The Korg KingKORG NEO has 24 polyphony

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, i noticed that when editing the video, 24 and 2 part multi is really good. i added a corrective caption to the video!

All I'll say is, "Welcome Back Pre-Pandy NAMM!" 😁

@jcchaconjr

5 ай бұрын

OK, that's not all I'll say, haha... As much as I am an unashamed Roland fanboy, I do have to admit that my love of synths came at the hands of a Poly 800 that a good friend lent me for a few weeks way back when... That led me down a dark path of visiting music stores and I came across the DW-6000! Of course, no way could I afford that, but when I was finally able to buy my very first synth, it was a Roland Alpha Juno-1, which was pretty much all I could afford. I know that it's looked back on with mixed reviews, but I loved that synth, hence my love affair with Roland began right then and there. That said, I still respect the Korg brand very much and am happy to see them come back to "normal NAMM" with a bang! Here's hoping Roland has a few things up their sleeves as well.

iThey are all very clever & sound good , but t's all about sounds , knobs & sliders & twiddly stuff , but no real instruments. I had a Stage vintage & that rocked , loved the RH3 keybed , it was great with big knobs n just a few basic sounds , almost fender rhodes or a whirly. But very heavy for gigging . I got a Vox which has great sounds & nice keybed for organ stuff & the Korg D1 piano for regular piano . But somewhere in the market there is a gap , say for something that has 73 keys & great keybed for electric piano & not as heavy or as expensive as a rhodes. then i ordered & waited months & months for an Expressive E Osmose . & this is unbelieveable , it's a proper instrument. certainly not a synth , though i notice some are trying to use it like one. It's an electronic synthisized keyboard that produces something like acoustic sounds , only they aren't. & the keys are beautiful, like nothing you've ever played . & the sounds are in another dimension. I've had many many Korg keyboards , & synths over the years & I've always rated them highly I've still got my vox & i'm getting an RH3 , L1 or C1 for home piano. & yes these synths do wierd & wonderful things, but' somethings missing ,soul music.! ! I have an old triton sound Micro X , only 25 keys , but the sounds are great ! ! even the old worn out keys are nice to play , but sadly on the new stuff they feel so plasticky. What's so cool about the Osmose , is it feels like an instrument , a NEW instrument , & made by people who have invested a lot of love & soul into their product. Watch out Big companies there are some little guys bringing in a revolution. check out the Osmose , Michelle Jarre rates it as does many others like Jordan Rudees all the best woody .

Hey Woody - it's NAMM show next week. Have you been out here to the states for that? Would love to see your NAMM reviews if you ever decide to have breakfast in America, lol!

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

i love my sweet american breakfasts, whilst i've been to CA a few times, never NAMM show and not this year either sadly

Doesnt vocoders have mix knobs on them?...they really should!

The new stuff is Ok, especially the stage piano, which flls a gap in their lineup (the SV2 really ought to be retired after all these years). But, what they still haven't introduced is a flagship workstation to replace the Kronos and compete with the Montage X and Fantom. The Kronos was discontinued over a year ago and the replacement is overdue. You might say that the Nautilus fills this role, but it really is a step down from the Yamaha and Roland competitors, and is not a big improvement on the 2014 Kronos (worse in some ways, in fact). So I'm disappointed at this.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, i agree with all that, but as korg keep saying on all these new products, the engines are derived from their flagship nautilus, which seems to confirm their strategy and a final nail in the kronos coffin.

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

Korg must feel the Nautilus AT still adequately competes, which it does on things like disk streaming, storage, user sampling and audio track recording.

@geoffk777

5 ай бұрын

@@xp50player You could kind of make that argument a year ago, but the competition isn't standing still like Kong is. The Montage M and the recent EX upgrade to the Fantom make them even further ahead of the Nautilus. I'm sure that Koeg knows this. It's shown by their pricing, which has the Nautilus much cheaper than the real flagships. So no, I'm not buying the "Nautilus is really Korg's new flagship" argument.

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

@@geoffk777 - flagship is not a price point; it’s relative to their own current product line. OASYS was once their flagship, then Kronos and now Nautilus AT. Other than the front panel controls and KARMA, the Nautilus AT is just as good as Kronos. MODX and Fantom O make other functionality compromises relative to their flagship models.

@geoffk777

5 ай бұрын

@@xp50player I disagree. Yes, "flagship" is a maker's best model, but in the larger market it also signifies a class-leading system with top capabilities. The fact that the Nautilus is almost as good as a 2014 flagship Kronos doesn't make it a flagship now, a decade later. Would you call a 2014 iPhone 4 "a :flagship smartphone " now? Of course not.

A really great sounding VA is always limited ployphony, if they raise polyphony you guaranteed gonna get that modern boring cold static stuff again.

They are hardly new products they are just re hashes. 3 are modwave, opsix and wavestate with the keys cut off for starters and the king Korg neo is the king Korg in the same form factor as those aforementioned units, minus the tube. We've already had modwave and wavestate mark 2, basically they had to move to a different raspberry pi as the one in the originals was no longer available, thus they were forced into releasing the mark 2 versions. As the new raspberry pi is much more powerful than the previous generation they were able to increase the polyphony.

@PaulGBass

5 ай бұрын

The raspberry pi is the ultra cheap basic computer that's in the Korg digital trio. What the market really wanted was a Prologue mark 2 with poly aftertouch.... No such chance, seems Korg are running scared from Behringer. Nb: The nts are digital, it's the digital effects/voice unit from the Prologue and minilogue xd...

@buckycore

5 ай бұрын

No, they're just slowly adding polyafter touch​ in bigger form factors like the Keystage and the SE versions of Wavestate/opsix/modwave @@PaulGBass

@SchoolOf5

5 ай бұрын

Do you know what the difference is with the upgraded Opsix keys? I just ordered a used Opsix for $700 Canadian and it looks like the new one is same price :(

I'm here still waiting for the new pa600/700 versions 😢

Grand Stage X, I wonder how easy it is to bump those slider controls sticking out when playing black keys? Today, I am playing the best sounding digital piano I have ever played, the Yamaha DGX-670. Comparatively, I also own the Roland V-Piano in the RD-2000 and the Kurtzweil's top piano in the PC4 ...and I have owned dozens of digital pianos over the last 35 years.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

good points. this piano surely has a "panel lock" feature...?

@peterconnolly2724

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack It does, from reading the specs. However, when playing live, I can guarantee you'll forget to turn it on... :)

I think Korg understands the market very well, because it's done so much to create it.

I was hoping for a new Korg Kross 3! It's been a while 🤔

For the Grandstage X I think it is strange to use the same keybed as the Nautilus 88, the RH3 action. They should have done something better. It will not be on par with the Nord Grand 2 with the Kawai keybed...

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

pa1000 still quite recent release i think...?

7:35 "sea of plastic" 🙏

Also i would love to find any comparisons between King Korg OG and a new one. Even Korg themselves avoid to do it so it's kinda weird! I know that Neo will not sound like OG just coz tubes are not there anymore, but Korg claims that otherwise two are the same, using the same XMT engine. But we are yet to see a proper comparision.

@GizzyDillespee

5 ай бұрын

The original had the nutube saturation, and I don't think the new one does. There may be other internal differences too.

@djkanyon

5 ай бұрын

@@GizzyDillespeeyup, i would love to see those differences but i bet nobody even slightly affiliated with Korg will do it but let's hope

About vocodes: Electrix WarpFactory doesn't sound rubbish and you can easily hear what is being said through that vocodes. But that's a unique vocodes. It's a shame it wasn't a commercial success, though.

Nice stage piano! Almost as impressive as my M-audio midi keyboard.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

that must be a pretty special m-audio! :)

why 3 octave keyboards? why not 8 octaves?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

there are 6 octave versions of some of those modules, but premium and you will have to pay for it.

Korg nailed FM, sounds notably better that Yamaha's FM-X to me.

Nice to see 19" rack making a comeback.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

yeah, quite astonishing, that's the biggest news in all this I think.

"New", or re-hashed?

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

new products, new cases, but re-hashed technology, perhaps fair to say? still i applaud that, great to have options and choices, thanks korg!

@hermask815

5 ай бұрын

As for the Opsix, the innovation came with the firmware update that gave us the fx-mode.My keyless desktop casing came from a kickstarter campaign. Yeah, it’s got better keys, more voices and a preset loader for DX7 for all the (whining?) persons who don’t actually care about FM in the first place.

@DorisDay-lw4xs

3 ай бұрын

Upgraded.

My Roland RD-800 is safe for another year. If the new GrandStage did in fact have EPs from the SV series, I would be more compelled to buy it. The EP-1 engine always sounded weak to me. The VOX/FC engines are transistor organs.

@WoodyPianoShack

5 ай бұрын

thanks for clarifying my points there, Ok, i did not know that the SV engine is considered superior to the EP-1. yeah, i know about Vox organs of course, but a bit taken aback to find a special engine for that in a stage piano, you don't get that in the nautilus (or SV?)

@xp50player

5 ай бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack - The SV-1/2 is thoroughly sample based, but it has the Rx layer for mechanical noises, which you can dial in. The selection of effects and amp sims with a real preamp tube also make it superior in my opinion. The SV-1 had lacked quality pianos and user layering capability, but the SV-2 corrected that.

9:35 kingkorg and some other korgs had real vacuum tube unit