I appreciate how, at the 14 minute mark, you scored Bjork's entire next album with a slight adjustment to a factory preset. ❤ Wonderful insights throughout as always.

Hats off to you for taking the time and effort to research this very complex synth and present it so beautifully. Thanks!

I know this isn't a major thing, however the tiny micro screen for menu diving is really sad. Of all the space on the hardware, Korg really could have improved the screen size so users aren't burning their eyesockets out trying to acheive menu options. I have the wavestate II

@timdanyo898

Жыл бұрын

That’s where the software comes in..

@danpreston564

Жыл бұрын

Especially as my M3 has a huge touchscreen from about 15 years ago. It’s not like Korg don’t have the technology.

@issiewizzie

Жыл бұрын

Oh well native is more fun for me

@SyntheticFuture

Жыл бұрын

​@@timdanyo898but then you need to have your pc running just to mess with your synth. Considering how much empty space er is on the synth I feel a bigger screen is a no brainer =x

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

@@timdanyo898 it's a hardware synth, not software synth, it was designed to be use as stand alone, it's nothing more than an inadequate VST controller, a bad one at that.

The original Wavestate has been the synth I've reached for the most often ever since I got it... So enjoyable to level up musical ideas with this instrument

What an excellent walk thru... Makes me appreciate my MK1 even more... thanks for making this💚

At 9:39 From the manual: Hold ENTER and press to scroll through the different routings. Alternatively, you can cursor through each parameter, one by one; cursoring right from Int Mod Src goes to the Source parameter of the next routing. A scroll-bar on the right side of the display shows the current location in the list. No need to scroll all of them one at a time!

Nice review as always Loopop! I think Korg missed the boat here on the MK2, if you have MK1 it's more than enough. But hey, you got options now.

Excellent as always, thank you so much for these videos.

I just got my Wavestate about a month ago. Endless hours have since disappeared into the predawn hours as I experiment with mutated esoteric presets and creating compositions. For the price vs. range of interesting and relevant features, there's nothing else like it, at least that I know of. As always, appreciate your well articulated and detailed tutorials.

It's like nothing else I've ever heard the scope for sound creation is limitless. Great demo and examples, thanks 👍

@Jason75913

Жыл бұрын

Just like modular synth folks may spend far more time patching a sound than they spend actually using it, lol, you may spend far more time programming a sound or performance than you actually end up using it. But if you don't already have an excellent pro romper like the Krome EX or M50, then you'll get even more use out of this baby for its great bread and butter sounds.

There are amazing bargains to be had on the mark 1 brand new. Got mine a couple of years ago and it’s a brilliant addition to any setup.

Forums: "I wish korg would release a module version" Korg: "Ok, one extended keyboard coming right up!"

@mack_solo

Жыл бұрын

...in two colours.

@chokocat9064

Жыл бұрын

They did announce the extended keyboard version quite a long time ago, and back then the forums complained about having only three octaves. Seems like the Forums can't be pleased no matter what you do.

@Curious_Skeptic

Жыл бұрын

True, but Korg could have made the desktop mod versions too! They had almost zero investment to do this. Drop price by maybe 100.00 and make more profit? Blows my mind how corporations function! Instead, no after touch 2k controll? Good luck on that venture. 😂

Epic tunes, as always! Keep rocking! 🎸🔥♥

Great review as always. I do think Korg missed an opportunity here to really make this an enhanced version... I own the mk1 and love it - no need for me to upgrade though

Loopop video! Korg! What a great half an hour to end my Monday on a great note! 😏

Amazing video as always!!!

Aww maaaaan. Now I have to get this one too. You can now load your own samples….sweeeet. Love my Wavestate. Thank you for the review.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

You can load your own samples into the original wavestate too

@jjrusy7438

Жыл бұрын

Upgrade the software version if it is an early model. (easiest with a Mac. Sheer f'ing hell on a pc)

@LEDBOO

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop 🙏🏾 thank you

Thank you very much for the video review!

I love the sound of this synth. I hope the VST goes on sale sometime soon.

@sub-jec-tiv

Жыл бұрын

It’s not horribly expensive even at full price. Not like some of the premium softsynths with a sample library this deep, which cost 500-600.

Wow I was thinking yesterday that the should make a mk2 and woke up to this. I have the original and love it, my fav synth of all time, and I have owned a lot

You are the best reviewer, period.

What an intro! Like, WOW! Did you make that patch, Sir? Jawdroppingly awesome... Thanx for yet another brilliant review, Sir.

@nexuzeb79

Жыл бұрын

Was probably two patches..

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's actually 4 patches - 1 mine, 3 factory - they're really good...

Nice with the full-width keyboard. Shame about all the non-utilised space for more knobs and larger screen, but OK, it would have required a new PCB and price increase, essentially a Wavestate 2.

@tehedx

Жыл бұрын

I like to stack gear _on_ the unused space of another. Like the (unused) speakers of a stage piano. Wide enough for a 37-key synth to sit on. The front two feet rest on the stage piano, for the rear two feet you need to find something to support it (e.g., a piece of wood).

Still wish they made a module version

@thablackkat9905

Жыл бұрын

Word!

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

You can make your own module version, people have been cutting off the keybed.

@straighttalk2069

Жыл бұрын

You can also buy module kits, that are reversible but not that cheap.

@emlyfox

Жыл бұрын

I cut my keybed off, it was actually pretty simple.

@GirlfightClub

Жыл бұрын

@@emlyfox I need a KZread video how lol i don’t want to pay for the “kit”

Ah Loopop, one of my favorite synth demo channels.

Finally. This is actually interesting. I'm not sure I like the sound but it brings something new to the market. Innovative.

thank you. excellent presentation

Yooooooo been waiting so long for the SE!;!! Happy happy

Wonderful dive into this impressive instrument. Thank you loopop. I'm a Wavestate Native user but would spring for this standalone if it had a good size screen (like the one they have on Nautilus or Kronos maybe?).

That “I think we’re alone now” beat though!

Thanks for the great review! I have a simple question. Can it be used in multitimbral mode? I'd like to play a sound with an external keyboard with left hand, while play a solo on the right hand. Is this function possible?

Fantastic synth in all versions and great demo! Slightly disappointed the Mk2 still doesn't have aftertouch - with so many cool modulation options it's just nice to be able to apply modulation by pressing the key so your other hand is free for play other synths. Still, like I said: it's a fantastic synth and the SE is awesome!

@manny7662

Жыл бұрын

Does the SE have the same additions that the mk2 has?

@fmagic2000able

10 ай бұрын

​@@manny7662 The SE has more voice polyphony (120 voices) whereas the Mk2 has 96 voices.

Good to hear Wave Sequencing 2.0 is alive 👍 The minor changes to MKII prove that KORG's Wavestate OG already was a mature product, especially after numerous substantial updates via firmware. SE is no option for me due to its sheer size (and price, given it still doesn't support polyphonic aftertouch). BTW: I'd loved to have seen AT on the MKII. Thanks for the execellent re- and over-view (useful for OG owbers, too!), Ziv 🙏

Any reason for that joystick placement other than to inspire an onslaught of hilarious memes? 😂

@Itaketoomanypics

Жыл бұрын

It’s for that forth hand

@Andronicus2007

Жыл бұрын

It is ridiculous! 😅

Yes, desktop-only is missing for all three of Wavestate, Modwave, and Opsix!

Looks really cool

Very cool. Wish there was a keyless desktop version

@bassguitar2709

Жыл бұрын

a third party mod company makes a case to house the mk1 chassis after removing the keys

@tehedx

Жыл бұрын

@@bassguitar2709 Tall Dog Electronics, yes

@Curious_Skeptic

Жыл бұрын

Just by a cheap laptop and vst. Still way ahead of the game! Any modern cpu can run this just fine! I am building dedicated mini desktops that will each host a single vst, dedicated midi controller, and small portable monitor. I get super advanced synths that act like hardware, but with unlimted flexibility. No brainer. If u play live, this setup still works great. If one goes down, they all don't go down unlike daw setups. 😊

@xchalibur77

17 күн бұрын

@@Curious_Skeptic This is what Roland have done 20 years ago with MV-8800. A pc with only vst installed and good control over it.

@Curious_Skeptic

17 күн бұрын

@@xchalibur77 exactly. Older roland gear had vga out. Even the old samplers!! Optional mouse and keyboard. Think roland had a pen pad as well. S770? Long time ago.

Brilliant, thank you and nice to see the Wavestate getting some love. It is an inspiring synth. One thing, do you know if they've improved stability issues? Using WS1 live is a joy but tempered by fear of occasional inexplicable lock-ups.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've not had this lock up at all despite extensive use, except once when I was using the Editor to save a patch to the synth

@sonickitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks @@loopop. Has been reported elsewhere and acknowledged by support. Can happen when some rhythmic performances are set to hold and flipped between during a set. I guess it's a memory limit issue.

@sub-jec-tiv

Жыл бұрын

Have had a Wavestate since they came out and use it pretty frequently and have never personally had a crash. 🤷‍♂️ ymmv

Is the bottom of the Wavestation SE keybed made of metal or the same as the Nautilus 88 keys (which is not) ?

HOLY SMOKES! A full keyboard???

People asked for a desktop unit with less shit screen, so they stuck an even bigger keyboard to it and kept the screen tiny with cramped controls. Absolutely epic troll move, you love to see it 😂

@BlackMan614

Жыл бұрын

BFD... it has a software editor - which is awesome in how it provides feedback on parameter changes.

@sub-jec-tiv

Жыл бұрын

I’m not surprised they didn’t re-manufacture the screen. There’s still a chip and electronics shortage, and they have already manufactured a ton of that type of screen for all their recent products. People are so demanding even when their demands make no sense for a business to implement, and cry like children when their own personal demands weren’t met. And at a Behringer-cheap price point. I’m not saying a bigger screen wouldn’t be great, what i’m saying is get real, Korg is a business operating during a parts shortage.

This is definitely at the top of my bucket list for next year. My very close friend 'ex' will have a duckfit at me if I got one this year...... after only recently getting a Deepmind 12 and a Korg PA 600 a year ago ;- ;-)

The Korg guys are on fire!!!

Thanks for the review! 👍 I really like the wavestate 2 engine and the sounds it can make. Only thing I was missing to its engine was a send reverb. So we could have no reverb for drums or bass layers. It really just a code thing to implement, that can make this synth so much more flexibale.

As always, well executed review. Thank you! Can not understand why they did not add a bigger screen ... Hm, does this imply that there will be an Opsix MKII???

@sonarfreq

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure the Opsix was that popular sadly (although I bought one just before it was discontinued). The Modwave MKII though might be a possibility?

Loved my wavestate but I sold it. I would get so into designing cool sounds and sequences but that was also the problem with it, just too time consuming so it had to go unfortunately but maybe one day when I have all the time in the world I'll get back in lol

@Taketaketak

24 күн бұрын

Sounds like euro. Spend all day producing sounds, not music. Not a bad thing though😊

Great video as always Senior L Pop. Curious, do you have patches/libraries for Moog Subsequent 37?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Sorry no I don't

From Korg site: OUTPUT L/MONO and R (impedance-balanced 6.3 mm TRS phone jacks). Is the output balanced?

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

unbalanced.

Great synth but also a missed oportunity. The SE should have a touch screen similar to the Waldorf Iridium so you can work effectively with sound programming without the need of a computer.

am i getting this wrong? on a FM synth you design a timbre and play it at different pitches(a.k.a notes) alongside other instruments. this seems like a mixture of a daw/tracker/mpc in hardware with 4 lanes and extensive library attached (korg manuals : wavestate mk1 : voice name list (PDF)) or what would your definition be?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Wave sequencing is really like no other synth (except to a certain degree modwave) - I recommend watching the tips section as well as my first video linked in the description to understand what makes it special.

Can you adjust the sensitivity of the after-touch to increase it?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

I may have missed it but there's no global way to adjust it. You can of course change the mod depth of aftertouch every time you assign it to something

If they make an opsix in this format, I'm sold.

Great presentation! Your thoughts on Wavestate SE vs. Opsix SE for Ambient music and ease of use. Thank you.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! For ambient music, I'd lean towards Wavestate personally - both are easy to use if you're just playing the presets an endless rabbit hole of textures and complexity if you're willing to dive in

Hi, great video! I am a bit confused. Is it possible in the mk1 version to load user samples? and if yes is it available the same memory capacity for user samples in both versions?

@loopop

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes, and yes

@Slowlyburnedelectronics

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your rapid response!

is this now available? Can't find that anywhere

Sounds like the original Bladerunner soundtrack, i guess some similarities to the Fairlight I think was all over that. This is that soundtrack in a box. So cool.

Good business using you for quality control, among other things.

Wait what? Teased in 2021 but finally being released? I wonder if the newer patches with AT will be released on the OG model?

Glad to hear the keybed has been improved. Still, I hope Korg build a 19 inch rack version.

Hi, is there an option to use filter cut of as a master filter for all 4 layers at the same time ?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Not that I remember off the top of my head but you can map a performance knob to anything you like across layers

@falconwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop thank you you r the best!

Starting around 19:10 in the video; the shape lane on the pc interface creates an optical illusion of parallel lines going diagonal.

Beautiful dream that must come true 😊 A question, if I have Wavestate SE hardware and I should want to use it as a unique sound generator for various midi tracks in my DAW, may I assign each sound to a specific midi channel in order to use many of them contemporaneously? (About sound I mean a combination of multiple layers and not a single layer)

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

No, it can only run one set of up to 4 layers (performance) at a time. But in that case why not just use the plugin

@federicovalmassoni3827

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop Ok so, you are telling me that theWavestate Native can do what I described? If yes I will use the software but...I loved the Wavestation and I didn't get it on 90's and I really want to have the new baby 🥰 For my needs I can use the plugin if it works for this ...but with future hardware anyway 😊 I would have preferred to save money😂

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

@@federicovalmassoni3827 you can use as many instances of the native plug-in as you want as long as your CPU will allow

@federicovalmassoni3827

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop Thanks for your confirmation 👍🏻🙂

Thanks!

You need two phd to understand it :) It is good but somehow I felt it is not good in any setup (with other synth) so finally I sold it. Btw there were always connection problems between the editor soft and the synth.

were they trying to do a Juno 106 look?

the empty areas are for laying down your head and dozing off to the dreamy tones

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

I totally missed that!

In EU it's 933EUR = 1019USD! It would be nice if Korg release desktop module version for mk2 following Minilogue XD example...

I've sold my wavestate but still have the VST version. Let's wait and see where the price will settle for the SE, I'd really love one with a 5 octave keyboard. Increasing the voice count is very important, voice stealing can be very annoying at times (it will "steal" the voices from a free running rhythm causing it to stop). I am definitely tempted.

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

Using a bandaid made of poo, wont improve things at all. Same horrible screen, horrible UI, 3 times asking $, workflow is abysmal without the software. This isn't even a good MIDI controller by any stretch of the imagination.

@Curious_Skeptic

Жыл бұрын

Buy a good midi controller with aftertouch. Don't waste money on this kit! Makes zero logical sense imho. How does Korg miss aftertouch? Worse, that stupid screen! In 2023 not to include a vibrant touch screen is really sad and worth passing on. I can bang out a long list of better spent money. Take the price of mk2, subtract from se, and divide that by number of additional keys, equal just how much you paid per key. Lol. To help cut to the chase, $54. per additional key😂. Likewise, 700 x 3 at 2100.00 is about the cost of one SE wavestate. No matter how u cut it, lame. Zero justification for price vs value!

$2,000 for the SE. Korg’s Reverb’s store has extensive info

@d3tuned378

Жыл бұрын

Who would overpay that much?

@sonarfreq

Жыл бұрын

@@d3tuned378 Yeah as beautiful as the SE is, that price tag is really a little high frankly, as I don't think it brings that much more to the table than the original model.

@RustyTonesJr

Жыл бұрын

​@@sonarfreqFor around 2 grand, I'd pick up a Kodamo Mask1 instead. Support the little guys.

Not sure if you answered this already, but is the Wavestate MK1 able to be updated with the additional MKII voices? I saw it mentioned briefly on the Korg website but still not 100% sure

@beegeorge1727

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop It's about voices upgrade...V1 to have 96..and 4gb storage...I believe that's not an option for Wavestate mk1....but if vst supports it then it's like hardware limit applied... surely a patch would do...but hey....we want you to pay more my friend...hence... there won't be an upgrade available as.....for now... 64 is plenty.and 2gb storage too...just spend time designing your sounds or make sure what fits your needs does not go over 2gb in total.. Btw..the same LCD size is an insult in mho.....just too small.. period...

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

If you mean will Korg share the new MK2 presets, I am told the answer is yes. If you mean whether you’ll be able to upgrade mk1 to 96 voices, the answer is no as far as I know

@sonic2000gr

Жыл бұрын

I would guess the extra voices come from updated hardware (probably now using CM4) so it won't be an option for the older wavestate.

@theintrabotx

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop ok thanks!

So, do you get the same sound from the hardware than from the wavestate native vst??

@Jason75913

7 ай бұрын

99% The VST lacks the DAC and related circuitry of the hardware, which adds a hint of more "flavor".

I really love my WaveState of the generative music ideas it can generate, no other hardware synth can really do that, with high quality samples.

They really should have made a module version so I could control it with my hydrasynth deluxe... When is the Opsix MKII coming...

They still didn't add the per-layer reverb sends? Weird, the modwave has had them since the beginning, and it has only two layers rather than four, so they would be even more useful here.

I wish more synths did mod processors. They are under valued, and may be even more innovative than the concept of separate length lanes. A mod processor is basically a customizable calculation inside a modulation route. Like modulate a with b but just by adding or multiplying a with b but by using a function f that specifies how a will effect b. The EaganMatrix can do it and the Korgs (Wavestate, Modwave) can do it, although the Mod processors only have a limited set of options to pick from for what the function f will be. And for the rest I don’t know any other synths that can do it.

@busticator8626

Жыл бұрын

Kurzweil synths?

@autonomoushologram6072

Жыл бұрын

Alchemy in Logic has up to 16 Mod maps which can do all this kind of stuff.

@jantuitman

Жыл бұрын

@@autonomoushologram6072 cool! I don’t know alchemy yet though I recently started with Logic. Would like to see it in hardware synths though.

@autonomoushologram6072

Жыл бұрын

@@jantuitman Guess it's always going to be trickier and costlier to implement more "niche", complex functionality like this in hardware, esp when it requires dedicated physical controls or space. Even with pure digital hardware synths its pretty difficult to implement in a user friendly, usable way, Software definitely has the big advantage here imo. Alchemy is pretty amazing, and can do a lot of stuff that's kind-of similar-ish to the Wavestate.... and a lot more the Wavestate can't do. Its modulation options are ridiculous - up to 16 each of LFO, Envelopes, MSEGs, Env Followers, Step Sequncers and a massively flexible perform section, as well as the afore mentioned Mod Maps. Def worth checking out if you are into flexible complex modulation possibilities. Other software synths that have this kind of stuff include Equator and Cypher 2 from Roli, Zebra by U-He. In the hardware world, there are also plenty of options for Eurorack / modular for function generators and other interesting / crazy modulation options, but obviously that's a whole other kettle of expensive and time-consuming fish.

What are the labels below the bank buttons? Why didn't you talk about those? Those are new. Good review for those that are already familiar with older ones, not so much if brand new to wavestate.

I love the Wavestate original version. If one wants to create sonic soundscapes never heard before this is the synth to get. Absolutely exceptional synth.

excellent video as usual, loopop. ty. will the native be updated to mk2 as well? if so, eta?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! There's nothing to update in Native to enable it to do what MK2 does - it's all the same except voice count

@meloniusthonk

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop thx, loopop, for being so responsive to your viewers. i was kinda hoping to get the added voice count. hopefully, they’ll add that!

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

@@meloniusthonk oh sorry I meant to say the voice limit isn’t applicable because it depends on your computer - there’s nothing to add :)

@meloniusthonk

Жыл бұрын

ahh, looks like i need to understand further. i’ll read up on that. ty

@meloniusthonk

Жыл бұрын

ah, yes. i get it now. duh, me :)

Are the potentiometers on the SE model upgraded from the original or are they the same but with metal knobs?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

I don't know - does it matter? Did you have issues with them?

@SoniclayersMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@loopop They are a little plasticky. Wondering if they were upgraded to metal pots.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

@@SoniclayersMusic I doubt the pots are plastic? The caps are

Not bad thanks Looper

I have the Mk1, but surely after the release of the Native version, don’t all of these just become fancy controllers?

@Curious_Skeptic

Жыл бұрын

Fancy? My $200.00 midi controller has after touch and at least 2.5 times to knobs and sliders. Lol. This is 100% a limited audience product. I am not sure who that audience is, but they must be out there.

Does the MK2 have improved build quality/components? I remember thinking the MK1 felt super plasticky and cheap when I had it (including the keyboard), and it sounded thin and low quality.

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

Exactly the same build. 96 voice vs 64 though.

Wish they would add a master cutoff filter

25:10 Techno Viking has been summoned!

This is a very complex synth. More complex than hydra. Thanks for the review.

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

The 2 synths are totally different so cannot really be compared. You have lane sequencing on the WS and only an ARP on the HS. Then you have sample based on the WS and Wavetable on the HS. Then how you set up the modulation on the HS. Add the PAT keybed and the 2 synths aren't even comparable.

@RuiGon1

Жыл бұрын

@@dankeplace I know. I was just referring to the degree of programming complexity. But thanks.

How do you back everything up?

@loopop

5 ай бұрын

There's a librarian software

Do we have keyboard split function?

@loopop

2 ай бұрын

yes

@KORG: my wish is an AU Version for iPadOS. imagine controlling all parameters with your finger instead of noodeling on the small hardware menu or use a mouse on the native. thx a lot for the vid 🙏🏻👌🏽 i have the native version and use it a lot

@kevincowart362

Жыл бұрын

@nebula393iWavestation is the ultimate waiting room synth, it keeps me entertained for hours

Hey watch the overview has reminded me of the single biggest question that I have not figured out how to do, is how to set a global filter. Ant one figure that out? I’m sure it could be made a simple thing like hold shift and turn the filter .

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

There's actually a global EQ, but if you want a global filter knob (unless I missed the shift function...) you'll need to map a performance knob to all 4 filters

Isn’t this kind of the same idea as the korg iwaveststion for iPad?

How is the sound of Wavestate Native vs. hardware, are they identical? I think that would be an important pro vs con.

@dankeplace

Жыл бұрын

sounds exactly the same as the filters are not analog on the hardware. I never paid much for mine but now it is a software counterpart, I find almost no use for the hardware. I would imagine you just need a decent mapable MIDI controller.

@NgaTaeOfficial

Жыл бұрын

Wavestate Mk 1 owner here. The hardware keyboard runs off a Raspberry Pi module inside it.

@jimmyblimmy

Жыл бұрын

@@NgaTaeOfficial Right, but that doesn't mean that it sounds the same as Native. There are other hardware components like DACs, etc that can affect audio fidelity (this is true on some other all-digital synths when comparing them with their VST clones).

@sonickitchen

Жыл бұрын

They do sound similar but are different. Prob due to WS output stage

It's a very interesting piece of hardware, It's a shame that the unit still has very limited integration with the native VST in your DAW, otherwise; I think it would be a lot more popular for people who work both in and outside of the box.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

The Native plugin works nicely within a DAW

Can this cover most of what the Korg Opsix can do? Much appreciated.

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

No, they are quite different, with some overlaps

ok now I might finally get one. ps. will there be a modwave & opsix SE?;)

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

Would love to hear what you do with it! Re the others unfortunately I couldn’t say even if I knew

Sold the small original version and got the vst but i kept the Opsix hardware

When will Korg give us a merger of Opsix, Wavestate and Modwave in one synth? That's be something new and exciting to experience ❤

@Jason75913

Жыл бұрын

absolute insanity, might be close to Kronos-tier, and would likely be similarly-priced

@benjwgarner

11 ай бұрын

The Opsix is a whole different animal, but there's a lot of overlap between the Wavestate and the Modwave that would have made for a better single synthesizer, combining the more powerful wave sequencing of the Wavestate with the wavetable wave scanning of the Modwave. That's one thing that frustrates me about Korg: they have a tendency to release lines of products with disappointing missed opportunities where they could have done something spectacular with the innovative things that they develop but instead stop short, seemingly for marketing reasons.

Love my Wavestate and Modwave,

Will current Wavestate owners be able to update to the same additional performances and sounds on the Mk2?

@loopop

Жыл бұрын

I've been told by Korg that yes

Still missing the simple functionality we had in the original Wavestations where we could crossfade between the different waves within a wave sequence using a controller like the modwheel, without having to 'play back' the wave sequence. Even on the Kronos, when choosing the modwheel to control the positioning within the WaveSeq, the xFade functionality just stops working for whatever reason, enabling us to only do hard changes between the waves. I wish the Wavestate allowed us to do this too but from what I've seen (and tried) so far, it's not possible :S Only way to do such a thing with our own samples is either getting an old Wavestation and using third party cards with them or code our own software solution for it. If only they'd allow us to load custom samples in the iWavestation app on the iPad (or the WS app on the Korg Legacy version for PC/Mac) that would be perfect! :)

@straighttalk2069

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't this be done by utilising two layers and setting up a controller like the modwheel to fade in one layer, while fading out the other layer, without having to 'play back' the wave sequence?

@NicolaLarosa

Жыл бұрын

That's the main reason I got rid of mine. Wave sequences are strictly time-based here, cannot modulate the wave pointer with anything else than time. The other reason is that Korg keeps neglecting the MPE standard: it would have been a dream, with that limitless mod matrix, even more so on the modwave. Oh well.

@c3d3c

Жыл бұрын

@@straighttalk2069 you can do this with using all 4 layers using the vector stick. The problem is when needing to do this with more than 4 sounds. On the Wavestation, being able to xFade between steps using a controlller meant you could xFade between even 255 sounds if you wanted to (though such a thing would exhaust the bank's limit of steps pretty quickly 😅). I was just hoping a Wavestate firmware update or the mk2 would give us step xFades on controllers rather than having to 'play back' the sequence but then again i suppose if they haven't even (fully) done it for the Kronos, what are the odds of doing it on the Wavestate? Wishfull thinking I suppose ^^

@towardstar

Жыл бұрын

yes to this day I find it very strange they took one of the greatest sound morphing platforms of all time and evolved it into a supercharged rhythm generatror. the core idea of the original is missing.

@c3d3c

Жыл бұрын

@@towardstar I'd think the core idea would be WaveSequences, and on that front they indeed evolved it in quite interesting ways. Still, I don't get it why they'd take such an awesome feature out :( As I said in the previous comment, they kinda let us control the sequence with a controller (without needing to 'play' it) in Kronos but when doing so the xFades get disabled. I wish they gave us that kind of functionality in either Kronos or any of the Wavestates :( If that was to happen I'd instantly buy one! I'm sure there's a lot more of us missing that kind of thing ^^

why they put the joystick right up there?